wzik
marina-asti, wrote.
vatruska
marina-asti, but what about the pillow under the lower back?
marina-asti
vatruska, Svetlanasitting in a chair, on a sofa, on a chair, a pillow under the lower back.
I'll tell you this, if 50 kg put a pillow under the lower back, it can give a ride, if 80, then it will give a ride, but not for long.
Therefore, we always warn everyone not to go to bed! And further use is at the discretion of the buyer.
With additional load from above, during the examination, the guys determine how the massager was used.
VitaVM
Marinochka left reviews in both places.
marina-asti
wzik, VitaVM, thank you!
Natalja AW
Marinochka, why can't you tell the people about Rumba? Very cool. It turned out that Kragen had to be taken back (there was a rattle during work and the lights blinked). As they said, there was a lot of lubricant in it. There, in the salon, they gave Rumba a taste. I went home with her. This is a different massage, of course. Kragen kneads, and Rumba is a striking technique. My shoulder girdle works out with a bang. You can also walk on the back (not on the kidneys, of course), on the buttocks. During a cold, it is good to tap the lungs from phlegm. Better, of course, to have both, they are different, but both are cool. I can't give preference.
marina-asti
Natalia, you say, girl!
Here I described the difference in them.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27019.0

Quote: Natalja AW
Better, of course, to have both, they are different, but both are cool. I cannot give preference.
here! correct thought!
I wrote they are completely different. My husband is a percussionist, such as Rumba and others, relieves the headache and pressure of the mother-in-law. His mother-in-law is hypertensive, and her husband is usually high. And with my 100/60 Rumba does not suit me at all, my pressure drops below the baseboard and makes me sick. Therefore, with reduced pressure with a shock massager, you need to be careful.

Maybe the store where you bought Kragen will be ordered now from Moscow and they will be sent to the next delivery, or you can send it from Moscow. It's a shame that this happened to him (we always check ours in the warehouse.
Natalja AW
Marina, I'm sorry. I didn't know about the pressure, I also have low blood pressure, I use Rumba - my back asks. And I have a roller Quadromed 3, although in this regard, Kragen is better for me, more versatile and mobile. In the salon, he is, I chose Rumba, as it lay down well. Kragen is now in the plans, it is still necessary
marina-asti
Natalia, I forgot about Quadr 3)))
Then, of course, almost a complete set! Kragen will be just an addition, for example, you can always take it with you to your car.
Pressure is also individual, it is not contraindicated, it is just better to try the shock massager in advance before buying.
A roller massager can suit almost everyone, but it is better to try a percussion massager before buying.
NataliaVoronezh
Marin, added a review!
marina-asti
NataliaVoronezh, Thank you!
marina-asti
All who are waiting for the glorious Kragen)))
According to the information for this morning, the massagers will come to the general warehouse tonight, the deadline is Monday. in the morning.
Therefore, everyone who wanted to receive it can schedule payment for Sunday-Monday (first half of the day).
By Monday lunchtime, I would have information on the number of necessary pieces for us in order to make a reservation. I think they will be able to allocate a maximum of 20 pieces, for 4-5 pieces I already have confirmed orders.

I give a hint to the mothers of schoolchildren, the school year begins, and soon the teacher's day is already - a massager as a gift from the class will definitely delight the teacher! Again, a worthy corporate gift.
You can pick up a decent massager in different price categories.
For the office and management, we have some very interesting office massage chairs!

Babushka
I am reporting. So, 8 days of using the massager. About 7 minutes in the evening. Collar area, back, lower back, sides, shoulder joint area. I came to life. The tension is almost not felt. No headaches. After the tenth time I'll take a break ...
marina-asti
Babushka,
"how beautiful this world is!"
Anchic
I also want to come to life The main thing is that now the park is - both at work and I collect docks for the apartment (we draw up the inheritance). As a result, I miss classes in the fitness club, and there is a very, very cool lesson for my back.
Rada-dms
marina-asti, Marish, I'm all crazy here, but I think about you every day, and not once!
In short, my husband arranged everything in such a way that this is my birthday present! I also arranged so that this is an anniversary gift for him! So we made ourselves the best gift you can imagine!
Delight is solid, not a device! (y) After three days of irregular use, I felt the effect. For two days I sleep for two or three hours, I am saved by this particular massager. Directly tones me up and relieves stress from my head at the same time!
Let me kiss you, hug you and say my sincere thanks for sharing good information and helping you buy such wonderful things !!!: a-kiss:
marina-asti
Quote: Rada-dms
Let me kiss you, hug you
Well, kiss me, kiss me !!!

Well, the truth is a surprisingly competent and very successful massager at its absolutely reasonable price.

In fact, when my husband took over the Moscow branch 4 years ago and talked about massage chairs, I looked at him with round eyes and wondered if someone really needed this?

A month later, he sent his mother-in-law to NG as a gift a chair. Oil painting: 30.12, parents go home from work, they are told to prepare 1.5 m2 of clean area on the way. An hour later, a car with loaders arrives and takes out 2 huge boxes, parents do it like this!
While the chair was being assembled for them, they brought my brain to me on the phone that they did not understand where to put it and in general it was huge, it took up the entire passage to the table and blah-blah-blah and where to put it
The guys are saying to my husband on the phone: "It would not be bad for your mother-in-law to decide whether we are taking him to the 2nd floor or not!" Because they are 40 km from Moscow, and they still have to go to the center for an NG salary, and in general it's time to go home "aaaaaa, it was trash! We have already regretted this whole idea!"
As a result, on 31st, my sister and my husband went to our parents, moved the furniture, found the perfect place for a chair, even my mother's 2-meter tree has never interfered with him over the years!
For almost 4 years now, our "tortured gift" pleases parents, us and all our friends! After the beds, before going to bed, a session on the armchair for mom is no longer a luxury, but a necessity (with her aching back and even with hernias in the spine), and we (children and sons-in-law) take the queue for it! Good little nephews, do not pretend to be him!



This is what I mean! It is not for nothing that the Japanese, Chinese and others are so fond of all sorts of massagers. In our crazy age, when there is no time to run somewhere once again to the gym, when we all sit at computers all the time and spend many hours driving - massagers bring great relief and comfort to our lives!
Here! That's it, I'm getting off the armored car, I'll go to the market, buy hot pepper and go home to the kitchen machine)
We're on HP, it's almost autumn outside, which means that dried tomatoes and peppers have not been canceled yet!

In general, I can show and tell a lot of interesting things))
celfh
Quote: Babushka
Tatyana, what is your impression after a while? How is the collar area? Does it help? I also thought about this massager. Sedentary work at a computer and age ...
Tanechka, just saw)))
I am very pleased with the massager)) Initially, I had a course of 10 sessions, as a result, my back has not been so good for many years. With this course, the cost of the massager immediately paid off))). Then I used it a couple of times once: my head aches, I sometimes massage the muscles in my leg. The main thing is that we now have the opportunity to help ourselves at any time))
And course sessions for prevention, I will conduct twice a year - autumn, spring.
Babushka
Tatyana, Thank you! I totally agree! This is the thing! Despite the fact that I have an ergonomic chair and a transforming desk at work, I spend almost 10 hours at the computer. The back condition is simply devastating. I have several massagers at home. Including a decent cover-overlay for the chair .. Kragen gave an amazing result.
Mariana Eve
Oh, you, there is what is going on, and I have not seen! I also need, my husband and I have neck-collar zones like a stone ...
marina-asti, but how to buy the Kragen?
Crochet
Quote: Mariana Eve
but how to buy that Kragen?

Oh), exactly), I also need it for my mother !!!

Marish, and Kragen at high pressure is possible?
marina-asti
Quote: Krosh
Kragen at elevated pressure can

If not at the time of a sharp jump in pressure, then you can.
Pressure jumps more often from circulatory disorders, the massager will gradually knead this zone and restore normal blood circulation.


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In all shopping malls, the shipping conditions have changed in accordance with the new law "Yarovaya package"

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Date of publication
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New rules for processing documents for shipping

Dear Clients!

The company "PEK" introduced new rules for processing documents for the shipment of goods across the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as to the Republic of Kazakhstan and back. According to the changes made to the Russian legislation, now the forwarder is obliged to check the accuracy of the documents and information presented by the client when processing the documents for the cargo.

These changes were adopted in order to comply with the Federal Law of July 6, 2016 No. 374-FZ "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On Counteracting Terrorism "and certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation in terms of establishing additional measures to counter terrorism and ensure public safety.

For our clients, we have prepared leaflets with information required for paperwork:
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Note! New samples of powers of attorney for shipping goods have been published on the site

The innovations will not affect the operation of online services on the site. Customers of "PEK" can still use them at a convenient time to go through, for example, the procedure for pre-registration of cargo or to apply for the collection and delivery of cargo. When filling out an application for picking up cargo through the website, the same information is indicated as when handing over the cargo on your own at the "PEK" branch.

Additional information on the new rules for cargo clearance can be obtained from the managers of the service department in the branches of the company "PEK" and by phone: +7 (495) 660-11-11.

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Marina, good day. Recommend a massager. I have osteochondrosis in the hip joint. The work is sedentary and, of course, periodically becomes inflamed, the whole back hurts. Especially this ill-fated joint. Sitting, to put it mildly, is uncomfortable .... I think whether a massage belt will help with my problem? I would also like to remove the deposits of fat on the belly and buttocks))))
marina-asti
Quote: tortoezhka
I would also like to remove the deposits of fat on the belly and buttocks))))
LenaOn the one hand, a massage belt can help with this.

Quote: tortoezhka
inflamed, the whole back hurts. Especially this ill-fated joint.
but with these data, I would not risk using it.
The belt won't help your back, but how will vibration affect the joint and won't it make it worse? that is the question....

With sedentary work and the inconvenience of sitting, I might try to start by changing what you are sitting on.
Write to me in a personal the city in which you live, I will look today to which of the partners I send you to try different massagers.

cake machine
Clear. Thank you.
marina-asti
Quote: tortoezhka

Clear. Thank you.
Yes, not at all.
Just with the back - it is quite simple, but with the joint - the main thing here is to observe the principle of "no harm".
marina-asti
Girls, yesterday to all whom I should have - sent to those, messages from PEC should have come, to whom they should have delivered - delivered, the rest of the boxes are in the office and waiting for their mistresses!

Girls who are thinking and to whom I promised to tell about the leftovers for now, I think that there is still time for another week.


wzik
marina-asti, Marina, thank you very much for cragen !!! After several massage sessions, the muscles became softer. I hope that the problems with shoulders and neck will disappear, well, or it will still be easier. Thanks again !!!
Anchic
marina-asti, Marina, thanks for the massager! I will arrange a full session for myself in the evening. So far I have just tried it - such a kaaaaif. Right here is what you need


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Today or tomorrow I will collect my thoughts and write a review on the site.
marina-asti
Anna, nice to meet you! Use it with pleasure!
marina-asti
Girls, a lot of questions in a personal, I'll write here.
There are no kragenov in Moscow in the warehouse again)
On Monday I can ask to send me a box personally from the central warehouse in St. Petersburg. In St. Petersburg they were free (on 07.09 there were only 20 pieces)
If anyone needs it, write me a confirmation in a personal, if at least 5 people are typed, I will order directly for myself, no one will move 5 pieces from St. Petersburg to a warehouse in Moscow.

For the regions: the simplest now is the delivery of PEK, on ​​average, plus or minus 350-400 rubles to the point of issue in your city. Russian post is longer and more expensive.
But all deliveries are considered on an individual basis so that everyone is comfortable and not very expensive.
celfh
Girls, boys, maybe someone knows, or even better uses a smart chair? The money is not small, I would like to know for sure whether it will be useful or not

Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
marina-asti
celfh, Tatyana, here I sit on this))) I really have no back

You will force me to add all the goods to the site)
And then I have these chairs on their own only sold.
I have smart chairs! If that - I'm in the subject of what to sit on like laid out pictures - if not, in the evening I'll try to upload.

If you were closer, I would bring my chair to the office for a test drive

I take the opportunity that the car won't start, but it's warm outside - I'm in the greenhouse now
Crochet
Quote: marina-asti
I have smart chairs!

How much is ?
Angora
So far I have only turned a couple of pages back - I have not found an answer. If you have already discussed - give a reference, if not, tell me, with hernias in the lumbar and cervical regions, which massagers are not contraindicated?
marina-asti
Quote: Krosh

How much is ?
Inna, from 8000 to 13000.
they are different in base (wood / metal) with / without back.

Be patient until evening - I'll sign everything, ok?


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Angora, depends on the size of the hernia and their condition.
In principle, all roller is possible, but after consulting a doctor, I think.

My mother has a hernia in the back - the usual massage was an indication, she takes a massage chair well, but I will not take responsibility for the health of others, I am not a doctor
Irina F
marina-asti, Marish, can you try chairs in your office?
I'm really worried with the child, it's so uncomfortable for him to sit and do homework ..
marina-asti
Irina F, IRINA, I have one of my own)
Come with your child and husband at your leisure for tea, I'll show you here

It seems to me that you are closer to me than to the office
celfh
no, well, okay, but what am I? not enough ???))))
And more ... pictures are pictures, but how to sit on a chair?)
Irina F
Marish, thanks for the invitation! I really want to test this chair!
There is only free time left to pick up)
Marish, do you have a back?
marina-asti
Quote: Irina F

Marish, thanks for the invitation! I really want to test this chair!
There is only free time left to pick up)
Marish, do you have a back?

I have no back.
severyanka76
celfh, Tatiana, also interested. Question - the knees are bent, it turns out. Is the blood circulation disturbed?
Marina, please tell us about them.
marina-asti
Quote: celfh

no, well, okay, but what am I? not enough ???))))
And more ... pictures are pictures, but how to sit on a chair?)

it's time for you to make discounts for your organizational skills))))

Sitting on it is great!

Girls, I'm leaving the air - a tow truck for the car should come ((
I'll be back in the evening - I'll tell you everything! I'll show you on myself.
I'm on the phone, it's not convenient to write!


Irina F
Come on, Marishka, fix the car !!!
Looking forward to the evening
Crochet
Quote: marina-asti
Suffer pliz until evening

The task is difficult, but I will try hard !!!

Thank you, Marishkin , I will wait as long as you need, of course ...

Quote: Irina F
I really want to test this chair!

Oh), and I want it that way too, I want it so !!!
severyanka76
marina-asti, Marina, I quietly remind you about the information on orthopedic chairs! We are looking forward to it.
marina-asti
severyanka76, girls, the lack of a car knocked me down a little, I'm in the train, then in the subway and everything from the phone (((
In an hour we will be at home, I will not go to bed and will not sleep, I will write.
Irina F
Looks like our Marishka bit and fell asleep all the same !!!)
Marishenka sleep off, we'll wait)

the car was not repaired?

marina-asti
Irina F, go to another branch, I'm sitting here sculpting for you)))
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=430132.0

Nope, they didn't fix it, some kind of block flew there, these smart electronic machines are being eaten. She just did not start in the morning and locked the steering wheel. We are waiting for the block to arrive (((and since the steering wheel is locked, they lifted it to the tow truck with dances, plowed the lawn on the site, they almost demolished the flowerbed

Irina F
Marina, already found you)

at the time of my youth, my first machine was a Moskvich 2141. So she perked up and could fix it on the road, went when the clutch cable suddenly broke. And the timing belt was changed on the road, and a lot of things. Now everything is different. Now I don't know how my gas tank opens)))

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