marina-asti
vatruska, again everything is individual. So much pain relief is certainly not an option ...
I read about omron, there was a question about arrhythmia, but then questions to the doctor.
vatruska
That's why I'm going for a consultation. And so
1. That little exercise bike is a good thing, it doesn't take up space and the loads are more than real
2. Massagers such as a body sculptor are also a good thing - they knead the muscles well, after work and in general ...
3. Myostimulator actually personally tried it - a really good thing, but then they wrote a wagon of contraindications
4. There are also Migun massage beds, really expensive, but in Moscow they have already organized a network of salons where you can come and massage for a more than democratic price - friends tried it - in complete delight. I didn't have time - when I got ready - they had already closed the point in our city. The hostess broke her leg, so she turned the deal.
marina-asti
4. There are also Migun massage beds, which are really expensive, but in Moscow they have already organized a network of salons where you can come and massage for a more than democratic price - friends tried - in complete delight.

Of this series, Nuga Best still exists. They also have a lot of points where you can come, try or visit them periodically for a small fee.

We have Takasima massage beds for home with jade rollers. Although surprisingly very popular are armchair beds with jade. Although now in general all massagers with jade are wildly popular with us)))
vatruska
That's it, the doctor gave the go-ahead - I galloped to choose a myostimulator. How to try it - unsubscribe.
Babushka
Does anyone use a similar foot massager? HoMEDICS FM-S-2EU foot massager. Please share your impressions ..

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marina-asti
Babushka, and by what criteria did you choose it?
Babushka
Marina., wanted a foot massager. I don't like vibration.
SilverLily
I don't know anything about a foot massager. The massage bath is safely in the bathroom under the sink.
I will continue about the exercise bike.
I consulted about a possible repair of a possible mini-exercise bike (well, right "Smart Elsa") at my "locksmith". First, he confirmed my idea that "what one person has done will always be fixed by another"; secondly, a couple of days later he brought me a real exercise bike. Well, not great, but so thorough. I would say "Soviet". Design as a concept is absent, but the pedals are spinning, minutes-kilometers-speed, calories are counted. He brought it for his son from somewhere, and that sportsman-cyclist twisted it a little and said that it was not serious. So he stood on their veranda to no avail. Now I'm mastering it. So far, I really regret that it is not a mini - my solid fulcrum requires an equally solid support for it.But I twist and twirl, I want to lose weight.
marina-asti
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Marina., wanted a foot massager. I don't like vibration.

Tatiana, I will explain why I asked this question. I looked at the price of a very budget massager on the one hand. If you are not sure that you will use it all the time, and there are money restrictions, then you can try it. But honestly, I doubt you'll be thrilled.
On the official site 🔗 these massagers are no longer there, perhaps they were left in the remnants somewhere.

When concluding a contract, I try all products from each manufacturer, at least to understand the functions, and in the absence of any item in the warehouse, to offer an equivalent replacement to the client.
What I don't like about HoMEDICS is the massage surface, it is small. I find it inconvenient to move my foot back and forth to get the effect.
I would recommend paying attention to the contact area in the selection process.
I can give you names and models, and you pay attention to the principle of operation and the surface.

At the expense of vibration, almost all massagers of this kind have a roller massage.
For example:
1) OTO e-Sole 3 EO-300 link to the manufacturer's website 🔗

There are instances in which the roller is combined with air compression.
1) Crazzy Egg
2) OTO
In these massagers, the inner material is removed and washed if necessary.

Alternatively, you can just watch a massage pillow!
Such a plan is hardly suitable for these purposes, but a flatter type or any other. Get 2 in one)

Tatiana, I'm sorry, something the temperature has a bad effect on me (((corrected my post.
I famously ranked Casada and AllRest as roller, but in fact they have a rotary vibration mechanism, you don't like those.
Babushka
Lily, Thank you. I have a bath
Marina., Thank you! I'll think about it. Already refused the order ....
Arbena
I overlooked the topic, did not find anything about the stepper. Does anyone use?
I want to buy a simulator for myself, but there is neither money nor space for something big. And the stepper is small, if I don't use it, it won't be so sorry.
What do you think?
Like this
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Inexpensive and takes up little space, you can even stick it under the bed for a while while it's idle.
Kalyusya
Arbenaif you have an injury to your knees, hip joints, or ankle; there is a strong degree of varicose veins - it is not worth it. This device replaces walking up the stairs, do you need it? Just walk up the stairs, forget about the elevator, but without weighing it down, of course. Let the husband carry bags.

I don't have a bed, and I can't get under the sofa. Raskoryaka is like that. Stands almost in plain sight. For a long time, yes ...
redleafa
And I have it right under the bed. Two years already. Just worth it.
Arbena
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Just worth it.
This is what I'm afraid of
And there are varicose veins, like many who gave birth ... I feel that I don't have to do physical education at home.
A friend of mine has had an exercise bike at home for several years, and it turned out to be a good clothes hanger :(
Karsei
Quote: Aunt Besya
There are no Hairpins, but I wanted to report to her: I bought such a massage hoop yesterday
called Vita Health Hoop, 2.5 kg.
I don’t know if he’s good or bad, but the bruises from him are notable and I stood for 7 minutes, although the last time I talked to a colleague (ordinary, Sovdepovskiy) even before marriage, that is, 21 years ago, at least

I walk like an invalid, my sides ache .........
Girls, take them into your ranks. Looking at you, I ordered myself the same and another slimming belt. Should come on Friday or Monday. So, I'm spinning the hoop with you (so far only mentally), and my tummy is melting, melting ...
sleepyhead
Hi there! I ordered it on the Chinese website and already received such a device:
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In the Chinese translation into Russian, the appointment sounds like this, I quote:
"acupuncture, cupping massage, manipulation, hammering cutem, massage, scrapping, thin body, hypnosis, for example, 8 types of massage mode, 15 levels of strength."

Strength levels - this is what they mean by the impact power. Excellent, I can say.

In fact, there is an effect of low voltage currents. I have sore knees, I tried it - it relieves a little pain, I don't have severe pain now, so I can't say. I really liked the device. In my opinion, you can use it as a massager. The cost on the site is quite acceptable - it cost me 663 rubles and free delivery to Russia at my post office. I ordered on October 13, received on October 31. The language on the display is Chinese and English. On the forum on the site, I completely figured out the device.
Who cares, here is a link to the site (I also ordered a syringe for marinating meat for 221 rubles, received it in one package with the device):
🔗
The site is in Russian.
sleepyhead
Here are the benefits of myostimulation.

"Impulse current of low frequency and low voltage

Intermittent (pulse) currents also have healing properties. In contrast to galvanization, impulse currents are delivered to the patient in the form of separate impulses, ie, "shocks" (or "portions"), alternating with pauses.

Diadynamic therapy - exposure to constant pulsed electric current with a frequency of 50 and 100 Hz. The method was proposed by the French physician P. Bernard, who called this current diadynamic (sometimes these currents are also called Bernard's currents).

Diadynamic currents, meeting great resistance of the epidermis and stimulating exteroceptors (skin receptors that perceive irritation), cause a burning sensation and hyperemia under the electrodes. The characteristic clinical effect of diadynamic therapy is pain relieving.

Electrical stimulation is based on the use of electric current to excite or enhance the activity of motor nerves and to contract skeletal and smooth muscles. The use of impulse currents is due to the fact that the sensitivity of the nerve fibers of the skin and skeletal muscles, assessed by the threshold strength of the exciting current, is approximately 3 times higher for impulse currents compared to constant currents.

In cosmetology, electrical stimulation is of limited use, since at high frequencies a prolonged muscle contraction often occurs - tetanus, which is quite painful for the patient. Microcurrent therapy, devoid of this drawback, has found much wider application in cosmetology.

Microcurrent therapy is a complex method of action with a therapeutic and cosmetic purpose on the body by modulated impulse currents of low strength (microamperes) and low voltage with different frequency characteristics. Acting on the skin, muscle tissue and lymphatic pathways, microcurrent therapy stimulates muscles and creates a lasting lifting effect.

The method is intended for non-surgical correction of age-related changes in the oval of the face, smoothing wrinkles, treating cellulite, carrying out lymphatic drainage, increasing metabolic processes in the skin and muscles. Less commonly, microcurrent therapy is used to treat pain, depression, and insomnia.



The main difference between microcurrent therapy and electromyostimulation is that the methods of the former are more effective when acting directly on cells, while the latter is more preferable for muscle stimulation. Unlike classical massage, microcurrent therapy methods are applicable even with serious damage to the skin, being almost the only method of dealing with edema in such cases.

The alternate compression and relaxation of muscle fibers under the action of microcurrents acts like a pump - when compressed, the blood and lymphatic capillaries between the muscle fibers close, when relaxed, on the contrary, the lumen of the capillaries opens and they fill up again. The aftereffect of such lymphatic drainage lasts about a day.

Microcurrents are effective in combating wrinkles. They do not cause subsequent sagging of the skin and aggravation of mimic wrinkles in the absence of repeated exposure. However, for the final elimination of the problem, a sufficient number of microcurrent therapy procedures are required. The simplicity of the method, a small number of contraindications, high efficiency have determined the widespread use and great popularity of this method in aesthetic medicine.

Electrolipolysis is one of the options for the impact of pulsed or low-frequency current on adipose tissue.

In the case of using impulse currents, skin electrodes are applied to the problem areas. If low-frequency currents are used, then thin long disposable needle electrodes are inserted into the subcutaneous fatty tissue. 8 to 14 needles are used, the injection is sometimes imperceptible, sometimes a little unpleasant. Feelings during the procedure itself are approximately the same as during myostimulation. The results of electrolipolysis are:

increased metabolic activity and a decrease in cell fat mass;
temperature rise in the treated area;
improvement of circulatory processes in tissues, i.e. stimulation of capillary blood circulation and subsequent restoration of normal conditions for tissue nutrition, stimulation of lymph flow and the final removal of all decay products as a result of increased urine output;
increasing muscle tone and firming the skin. "

And this is ABOUT HARM AND RESTRICTIONS.
"The shortcomings of myostimulators of a technical nature can cause user errors. If the device has a small number of channels and is not powerful enough, the user, due to his inexperience, can deliberately violate the operating rules to achieve the desired result, which can provoke the above-described diseases. Most often, users violate the operating rules. who purchased a muscle stimulator for home use. Many believe that if they purchased a product on the free market that does not have any certificates, then it is safe. In fact, a muscle stimulator is a dangerous device if used incorrectly, for example, wireless muscle stimulators do not give any benefit and can harm only with prolonged use. But as for stationary devices with external electrodes, they can become killers if used ineptly. If you place the electrodes on the body incorrectly or take the electrodes in different hands during work s apparatus so that the heart is in the path of current flow, there will be a real threat of stopping it. Therefore, for people who do not have experience with this kind of devices, it is best to use a myostimulator in the presence of loved ones, who, if something happens, can provide first aid and call a doctor.

Contraindications to myostimulants.
The disadvantages of myostimulation include the presence of contraindications, which are similar to contraindications for the use of physiotherapeutic devices. Therefore, before the procedure, it is recommended to go to a doctor's consultation. The most common contraindications for myostimulation are:
myostimulation is contraindicated in people who have an implanted biocontrolled electrical pacemaker in their body;
cardiovascular diseases;
colds, flu and other viral diseases;
pregnancy, since the effect of myostimulation on the fetus is not fully understood;
diseases of the gastrointestinal tract, urolithiasis and cholelithiasis, including during an exacerbation;
mental disorders, chronic alcohol and drug use;
oncological diseases;
inflamed skin, cuts, fresh wounds, skin rashes, scratches at the sites of exposure to muscle stimulants;
surgery less than nine months old;
thrombophlebitis;
it is impossible to use a myostimulator in case of circulatory disorders, renal and hepatic failure, pulmonary and kidney tuberculosis;
hypersensitivity to impulse current;
eplepsia, hernia, sepsis, purulent inflammatory processes;
myostimulants should not be used in the groin area and intimate places.

In addition, before doing breast myostimulation, women are advised to consult a doctor and be examined for the presence of neoplasms in the mammary glands, cysts, mastopathy. After a stroke, myostimulation of the extremities can only be indicated as directed by the attending physician. It often happens that myostimulation is the only way to maintain muscle tone until the nervous system is restored.

In conclusion, I want to note that a tangible effect and undoubted benefit can be given by myostimulation procedures on professional-grade myostimulators, performed by highly qualified specialists. Otherwise, myostimulants are either useless or harmful. "
marina-asti
Excuse me, of course, but as a person directly working with this, the last text is very good from the point of view of article SEO promotion, although it is somewhat overloaded.
But I agree with this, with this paragraph:
Quote: soneyka
In conclusion, I would like to note that a tangible effect and undoubted benefit can be given by myostimulation procedures on professional-grade myostimulators, performed by highly qualified specialists. In other cases, myostimulants are either useless or harmful.
sleepyhead
marina-asti,
I bought this device not for cosmetic purposes, but to relieve pain. I have sore joints. In this he helps me, though I don't have much pain now. And the rest is just trying to figure it out, I read the information on the internet and share it with you.
Scops owl
Girls, does anyone have a fitball? Which one is better to buy for unloading and exercising with a sore back? Found a Reebok gymnastic ball here with a padded base to stabilize the ball. I do not know whether it is worth taking one or better than the usual one. The daughter says you will still roll away from the usual and get injured. On the other hand, maybe it is more practical
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Is it?

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Scops owl
He is. Now I called the site. asked how they differ. They said his rubber is more elastic, but Togu's is denser, harder. For the house, more Reeboks take 1790 lilac and blue, more budgetary, but the tires are worse in it. I don’t know. Sit on it.
Sens
does anyone have a jade tourmaline warming mat?
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is there any benefit from it?
marina-asti
Sens, what exactly is interesting to know about him? What effect do you expect from it? We sold these. They were in demand, but in general all products with jade-tourmaline go well. We are engaged in German production, the same products are sold on the European market, that is, they are not made for Rossib. Behaves well as a heating mat.
Sens
Quote: marina-asti
what exactly is interesting to know about him?
I am interested in the therapeutic effect. what is he even capable of? and why is he?

kirch
Quote: Sens
I have a big tourmaline rug, no niftrite
Biryusa
Quote: marina-asti
Behaves well as a heating mat.
Is an electric heating pad not suitable for this? And is warming up always harmless and useful?
kirch
I have Korean. The best option is to sleep on it. I do not sleep, I lie for an hour or two every day. I don’t know about the effect, but lying is pleasant, it warms the spine well. You can adjust the temperature to hot, but I'm not lying on a very high
Sens
kirch, helps?
kirch
Quote: Sens

kirch, helps?
Who knows. But lying on it is very pleasant and I can lie on my back for a long time. Without it, lying on your back is problematic. According to the instructions, there are many indications. He kind of heats like a Russian stove. There is a stone and there is a stone. That is, tourmaline not only warms, but also heals. I cannot explain correctly. My knowledge and words are not enough
marina-asti
Sens, about the scientifically proven therapeutic effect, to be honest, I have no data.
But different people talked about the positive effect, the simplest tourmaline rug was still with my grandmother 10 years ago and she loved to use it. Jade is considered a semi-precious stone and, when heated, exhibits healing properties, if you believe alternative medicine. Tourmaline as a stone is also becoming popular now. The same tourmaline bracelets. ... until you start wearing it, it's not particularly clear how it works)))

Biryusa, you can and a simple heating pad.
Here to each his own.


Added Friday 03 Jun 2016 08:16 AM

The Chief will probably have to ask the discussion of the rug to be transferred to the massagers, this still applies to them. I can almost always answer all the questions about massagers, precisely in comparing them with each other. I have tried hundreds of them on myself)
celfh
Girls, boys! Maybe someone knows something about the Shiatsu Gochu HPM-600 massager?

marina-astihave you tried it?



marina-asti
celfh, Tatyana, I will not answer from the phone now, in a couple of hours I will be at the computer, look at the link, write my opinion.
Shiatsu is a massage technique.

p.s. are we on YOU?)
celfh
Quote: marina-asti
and we are on YOU?
no misters))
Marina, I will be very grateful. I can't get ready to go to a masseur, and cervical osteochondrosis is making itself felt.I already managed to roll Lyapko's rug under the neck))
I'm waiting for your opinion))
Sens
celfh, and you yourself do not want to try? on yourself, in the sense?
in Vitarais salons you can come for procedures, including such massagers there.
marina-asti
Sens, on their website I saw only a similar tapping massager, it is fundamentally different in functionality and impact.
I saw the price for it on their website, fell !!! It can't cost that much!)))
Sens
marina-asti, I did not look closely at them, I remember that people were sitting in capes ...
finding out in the salon is not a problem who needs it.
more for honey. exhibitions there are massagers.
marina-asti
Sens, yeah, the prices for capes also looked. The functionality / price does not match absolutely. For this money, you can buy a cape, which in functionality can surpass a simple massage chair.
I agree in part on medical exhibitions, I don’t know how in the regions, I haven’t been; I know for sure that in Nizhny Novgorod our supplier often participates in exhibitions, but he is essentially the same in the region.
In Moscow, at Intersharma, he also happens every spring / autumn, Yamaguchi / YUS Medica also occupy a central place at each Intersharma, but advertising costs are included in the cost of their products in advance))
At the same time, my beloved Casada very rarely participates in exhibitions, and buyers often choose them.
In general, I love sales (spontaneous purchases) at exhibitions most of all))) People walk, walk, look, get tired, everything aches and hurts, or those who work at the exhibition all day, running past massagers, flop on a chair, they have a massager in legs / cape / pillow and all)))) sold)))!
Sens
: nea: umarina-asti, yes I'm talking about the current talking! Their warming mat on Ali 12 T. p. worth it)))
marina-asti
SensThere is a lot on Ali))
But I like that something well-known was more or less written on the box, although for the same massagers and care products I know many examples when a thing is produced at one factory in China and then they hang different labels and pack them in different boxes
Further, in essence, the choice of support and service here in Russia or the absence of a guarantee and a certain risk at a lower cost.

Okay, it's all lyrics

I'll tell you about the neck and shoulder massagers:

conditionally they can be divided into 2 types: shock-cam and roller.
1) what Tatiana showed celfh and what I suggested to her for consideration - they refer to roller massagers. Their plus and convenience in front of massage pillows is the presence of handles / holders. (By the way, we have 1 version of the massage pillow on sale, to which you can attach the strips / holders). Roller massage is similar for massage pillows and these massagers. The holders are convenient for adjusting the strength / intensity of the massage and changing the position of the massager during the massage.
Infrared heating can be connected / disconnected at will. The massage cushions are absolutely the same.
In the neck and shoulder massager, unlike the pillows, the mechanism is slightly different and the rollers are arranged relative to each other. It is more aimed at neck massage, while the pillow has slightly more versatile functionality.

2) Impact cam massagers of this kind
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They have built-in motors that perform tapping movements. Depending on the model / brand, they may differ in the number of programs, the ability to adjust the strength of the impact. He just taps you on the back of the neck
in different versions, such as knock-knock-knock; Knock-Knock; tuktuktuk (great explained)

Now according to my feelings:

In our market today, of the main brands (I honestly only learned about the Gochu massager today, I associated it more with kitchen appliances), the roller massager for the neck and shoulders is presented only by one manufacturer. I like him!
But in fairness, percussion-cam are in very high demand. According to reviews, they do a good job with "back humps" and headaches. I tested it on my husband and mother))), they say it relieves headaches well, BUT! I would only recommend it to people with high blood pressure or after a test in a showroom / at an exhibition, etc.etc., because these tuk-tuk-tuk affect the outflow of blood from the head. With my 100 \ 60 in a minute it really isn't a fountain! But I generally do not tolerate vibration massagers. And my husband and mother became a fan of me from such a massager.

for
cervical osteochondrosis
I think the roller is more suitable. It is more comfortable in massage than percussion.
I can't go to a masseur
he is quite capable of replacing trips to the masseur.
celfh
Quote: marina-asti
According to reviews, they cope well with "back humps" and headaches.
There is no hump, but the headaches have appeared quite recently and their nature has not yet been determined)) Osteochondrosis or blood vessels, or maybe both) Therefore, I give injections from both)) it will not hurt)
Quote: marina-asti
I think the roller is more suitable. It is more comfortable in massage than percussion.
I also think so, because physically I want them not to knock in problem areas, but to crush them and the harder the better. Although I have had hypertension for a long time and the working pressure, if I do not take pills, is 160 * 100.
But most of all I want to get the result))

Quote: Sens
in Vitarais salons you can come for procedures
Sens, Thank you! But I can't even imagine if we have something like that. Perhaps there is, you need to look. There is only one big problem. I'm too lazy to go to public places. All day I will say so much that I do not want to see or hear anyone later. I only relax at home, and if there is also a massage, it's a complete thrill))
Quote: marina-asti
I honestly only found out about the Gochu massager today, I associated it more with kitchen appliances
Marina, I would never have known about him in my life if I had not bought a vacuum sealer from them. I decided to buy another cord to the packer, but not to buy one cord, I need to get something else to justify the delivery, which is twice as expensive as the cord))) So I saw a massager, which is 35 times more expensive than the cord)) Oh, how bent!))
Sens
Quote: marina-asti
I know many examples when a thing is produced at 1 factory in China and then they hang up different labels and pack them in different boxes
this is your option! find three differences !!!)))
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kavmins
girls, and someone in the know, are there less expensive simulators in nature, like Bubnovsky? maybe someone used these and there are reviews?
marina-asti
kavmins, is this a plan you mean?
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Since this is a projectile patented by him, I think hardly anyone produces a similar one.
Such a plan can still be found, but this is somewhat different.
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kavmins
marina-asti, yes, such a plan, but he also has one such compact stand on sale. Well, other manufacturers have something similar - the reviews are just interesting ... the thing is not cheap
marina-asti
kavmins, Yes, I saw. Simulators are not quite my direction, here I will not answer your question.
celfh
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I also think so, because physically I want them not to knock in problem areas, but to crush them and the harder the better.
And I got what I wanted marina-asti Marina, you are a true friend and I am very grateful to you!

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Really crumples the way you want, as your collar department asks. Muscles, like a tight dough kneading. The pressure is regulated by hands. The first day I only massaged the collar, I understand once it is very little, but my back was grateful to me. Usually I lie on the Lyapko rug, a wonderful thing, but in some places the rug simply does not reach. And today, in addition to the neck, I grabbed the lower back. In order to fully feel the massage, I had to bend forward a little and press the massager more tightly with my hands. But my lower back is not as neglected as my neck, so the process went smoothly without oohs and oohs
These are the sensations, very pleasant
marina-asti
celfh, use it to your health, dear!
To be fair, it is still more sharpened for massage of the neck-collar zone, in it the rollers are located slightly at an angle to each other, not like in a massage pillow. Therefore, a lumbar massage is like a kind of possible additional option.
And I, thanks to you and the lace, studied Gosha's vacuum pieces) and thought about expanding the range

kavmins,
NataliaVoronezh
celfh, Tatiana or Marina, what is the name of this massager? Also cervical osteochondrosis tortured, and so would knead his collar zone.
VitaVM
Girls, I will join the topic. The problem of cervical osteochondrosis is very urgent for me.

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