marina-asti
Girls, I will tell everyone everything, write, show in the evening how we will return home from a normal computer. Now in the Tver region it is difficult to answer from the phone on the road!
celfh
Quote: marina-asti
And I, thanks to you and the lace, studied Gosha's vacuum pieces) and thought about expanding the range
Marina, and we live in the old fashioned way - word of mouth))
Quote: Natalia Voronezh
what is the name of this massager

Quote: VitaVM
I'll join the topic
Girls, the massager is called Gess kragen
Massager, Lyapko's mat and foil don't laugh))) - these are my main back healers
VitaVM
Marina, of course we'll wait until evening.
Tanya, when her back and head hurt, she doesn't want to laugh, but is ready for any treatment, if only it becomes easier. Should I tell you
celfh
Quote: Natalia Voronezh
What is it like?
on a large plaster I glue strips of foil and glue where there are problems. Over the years, my hip joints have shifted or diverged (this is what the manual told me, or something like that) periodically some kind of inflammatory process occurs and begins to give somewhere, more often in my thigh. I put the foil patch on the joint, not the thigh. The pain gradually subsides. Of course, this is not a panacea, the bones cannot be returned to their place, but it makes it possible to forget about the pain. More about foil by link

And I buy the PLASTER UNIPLAST FIXIR 10X500SM / NETKAN in a pharmacy. RU
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VitaVM
Tanya, thank you so much for such an interesting method. I'm already trying foil
Rada-dms
Here's a topical Temka!
marina-asti, Marinochka, thanks for the detailed descriptions and advice!
celfh, I just have huge problems in the area of ​​the collar zone. But a light massage helps. What a fine fellow you are, Tanyusha, for writing a review! I just need such a massager, since drums and vibrating ones are not suitable.
VitaVM
I also ordered a massager. They should bring it on Tuesday.
Girls, and the foil really works. The third day I lay with inflamed ankle ligaments. You don't know where to put this leg. Wrapped with foil, elastic bandage on top. After 5 minutes, the pain began to disappear. Now, in general, everything is calm.
Tanya, a low bow for an effective method!
kavmins
how interesting about the foil - I've heard it for a long time, but haven't tried it .. but how to wind it around the joint - matte or shiny side ???
VitaVM
Shiny
celfh
Quote: VitaVM
After 5 minutes the pain began to pass
I wear a foil patch for three days))
kavmins
kavmins, thanks - I'll go and wind it ..)
gawala
Quote: VitaVM
massager.
I went to see what was happening in our area .. I was extremely surprised. The range of prices is from 50 euros to 179 .. euros .. It looks like everything is the same ..
This 179euro
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
This 58 euros
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
This one is for 50 euros.
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
marina-asti
gawala, the first 2 photos are a roller massager, the 3rd is a shock one. How do they differ, I wrote a couple of three days ago in this thread.
celfh
My plasters look like this

Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
Quote: gawala

I went to see what was happening in our area .. I was extremely surprised. The range of prices is from 50 euros to 179 .. euros .. It looks like everything is the same ..
This 179euro
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
This 58 euros
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
This one is for 50 euros.
Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)
For 50 euros completely liquid. Well, this is in my opinion))
gawala
Quote: marina-asti
How do they differ, I wrote a couple of three days ago in this thread.
yeah, read it .. thanks ..
I have a massage chair. There are rollers, heated, with a blow .. in general, with all the garbage .. But ... more than 5 times you can't massage on it .. Muscles twist so that mom doesn't cry ... And it's so nice, you sit , and it is there with rollers, rollers spinning .. here on this and got caught ... such pains were ..all muscles turned to stone ... In general, everything is fine in moderation ..
marina-asti
gawala,
Can I get 5 times more details? Is this your personal perception? Why not? And out of curiosity, who is the manufacturer? You have there my favorite Casada should be popular))
For the first time in many years of working with massagers, I just hear and read this. My husband gave my mom 4 years ago a massage chair, when everything is going to my parents, it's turn for him, in winter periods mom is often lazy to do a massage every day, and in the summer autumn at least once a day, in the evening after the beds, watering, etc. we have a holy place))))

About muscle to stone and stuff. Before starting to work with massagers, at least 2 times a year, we performed massages with my mother in sessions of 10-12 procedures. My husband is a former professional massage therapist. I assure you, it is normal when everything hurts by the 3-5th session! After 7-8 it gets easier. The course of 10 procelours is not so easy to come up with!
gawala
Quote: marina-asti
Can I get 5 times more details? Is this your personal perception? Why not? And out of curiosity, who is the manufacturer?
Not a perception, but rather a personal experience .. After five sessions, the muscles of the cervicothoracic region turned "to stone" .. and everything hurt very much .. Probably something went wrong, that's why I can't do more .. maybe someone helps more. I'm talking about myself ..
I will not tell you the manufacturer. They threw out the box, instructions too .. By the way, I really didn't want to buy it. My husband just didn't let me out of the store until I agreed. pickled an hour, probably for a whole .. It was bought exclusively for me, he does not use it ..


Added Friday 15 Jul 2016 7:29 PM

Quote: marina-asti
I assure you, it is normal when everything hurts by the 3-5th session! After 7-8 it gets easier. The course of 10 procelours is not so easy to come up with!
I absolutely believe you and I know that massage needs 10 procedures. I went to a professional massage therapist here. But I did 10 procedures on this chair "dead" ... I thought, well, maybe after a while it will be normal, a break .. Some time has passed, we bought this chair about three years ago, probably again 10 procedures and again bad. then again there was a break, then 5 more procedures and that's it, I feel that it’s enough, otherwise it will be bad again .. I didn’t approach him anymore ..


Added on Friday 15 Jul 2016 7:30 pm

Quote: marina-asti
Before starting to work with massagers, at least 2 times a year, we performed massages with my mother in sessions of 10-12 procedures.
We have this pleasure here is very expensive, so we have to look for alternative ways out. But all the same, there is nothing better than manual massage for the pros.
marina-asti
gawala, and you your 5 sessions are right lying in the chair? Relaxed? Do not sit all squeezed, and is it trying to massage you? In fact, it should be so, at first it is worse, because the massage makes the muscles work, and then it is easier. I believe in the individual feature of the body, but in this case, you can't even 5 sessions - you only make yourself worse (
Have you ever tried to do it for 2-3 days? What programs do you have? In almost all more or less decent chairs, the relaxation program should be or can be changed from the settings panel? Are there manual settings? Have you tried changing them?

I have read what you have added, I will return to the question of the frequency of the procedure. If you don't do it every day ....

Now it is not cheap either, so we bought a chair for mom - it paid for itself long ago!
kavmins
gawala, maybe the time was long for you ?? it's strange that it happened
Natalja AW
"There is no cure without exacerbation" - this is how the massage teacher taught me and this is how the eastern wisdom says
gawala
marina-asti,
I don't do a chair massage .. I tried it this way and that after 2 days and every other day ..
Quote: kavmins
maybe the time was long for you ??
Probably everything is individual ..
helps someone, but is contraindicated for someone
marina-asti
gawala, in any case, thanks for telling me, I'm interested in everything! All reviews, all experiences!
marina-asti
Galina, but can I ask not a modest question, if you can, answer it in a personal.
I'll write a question here, because it might be an interesting fact.Now I told my husband about your effect, and he asks "is the person obese?"
It turns out that obese people really have such a feature, not all of them, but there is, ..... deep massage is contraindicated for them .... they are shown a manual, rather light massage. The more ascetic a person has, the deeper massage is needed.
.... it is convenient when the husband still understands massage))))
gawala
Quote: marina-asti
"Is the person obese?"
At that time, I lost 25 kg from 107 kg, it turned out 82 kg. I don't know whether this person is obese or not ..

Quote: marina-asti
it is convenient when the husband still understands massage))))
Exactly. I always say to my own saying why are you not a masseur ..: D Would massage me for free .. Laughs ..



Added on Friday 15 Jul 2016 09:20 PM

Quote: marina-asti
deep massage is contraindicated for them .... they are shown manual, rather light massage.
a professional did a massage for me. I did it from the bottom of my heart .. After him it was possible to fly .. But at that moment I was in big kg ...



Added on Friday 15 Jul 2016 09:21 PM

Quote: marina-asti
answer in a personal to it.
Why in a personal? you never know someone has the same problem. Let people read the information ...
marina-asti
Galina, of course, the massage therapist feels the muscles and the body with his hands, he knows which place you can push, which cannot.
From the husband of the masseur, personally, it is very rare for me, but when it's really bad, he can press where it is necessary)) he has a manual bias for me))) without my comments on the muscles, he determines where it hurts.
A chair is still a machine, and if the massage therapist bypasses some point, then the car will go to everyone and apparently you to some points, places are impossible, since it squeezes the muscles.
gawala
Quote: marina-asti
The chair is still a car,
Exactly .. The machine is the machine ...
VitaVM
Girls, got a massager today. What a pleasure the back got. The rest of the family appreciated the device to the maximum.
Marina, thanks for the wonderful review
celfh
Passed all critical points. The muscles are all right, but there is one small but very pleasant side effect) The blood circulation in the legs has improved. I have not walked barefoot around the apartment for a long time, but now I walk with pleasure, my feet are hot. Previously, it was only cold (This has nothing to do with weather conditions.
Irina F

Girls, tell me please, how long should the session take place? Something I did not find information in the booklet.
marina-asti
Irina F, it will automatically shut down after 15 minutes.
In general, she flew in, flew away, I wanted to give her coffee!

I promised the girls pictures, I'll try to download them to the computer tomorrow and hang them in a branch.


Added on Tuesday 19 Jul 2016 10:49 pm

VitaVM, you are welcome!

celfh, well, yes, such a dear side effect))) the dream of a massage therapist, you are ours!


Added on Tuesday 19 Jul 2016 11:09 PM

Quote: gawala

Exactly .. The machine is the machine ...
wow, and what smart these cars have now become !!!
Irina F
marina-asti, Marish, yes, I would have enjoyed drinking coffee with you with great pleasure, but they were already waiting for us, they were waiting for us in the service!
The massager has already been tried with my husband, so much so!
marina-asti
Irina F, if you do several massages in a row to family members with the help of any massager, it is better with a short break, if suddenly it turns off during the 2nd-3rd session, then do not be afraid and leave him alone for a while, it means that the automatic protection system has just worked. My belt loves to turn off so much)))

I hope the service is good and the coffee will be waiting for next time
Irina F
Marina, Thanks for the clarification!
And yes, I managed to get to the service (they were waiting for us), they took the car, then we drove with my husband in a race)))
Tancha
Marinochka, could you enlighten me about the Synergy Duo massager? My daughter has problems with her lower back, she is not for massages, so she looked at him. And I stumbled upon this Temko, I would take a cragen for myself, but the lower back is also more worried about.
marina-asti
Tancha, Tatiana, is this Gess? Manual?
Tancha
Yes, this is it.
marina-asti
Tatyana,

Everything for body health (exercise equipment, massagers, rugs, cosmetic devices)



The photo shows another manual massager, but the principle of operation is well shown. This new Synergy Duo is quite interesting due to its transformation, due to its power, but personally I do not like all manual massagers, because to make a massage, a person needs to hold the handle of this very massager. See the photo above. Depending on the model, the massager itself weighs from 1 to 2 kg and it all vibrates in the hand.Try to hold your hand in a pose like in the photo with vibrating 1.5 kg (rounded) - will you last for a long time? And then what will you get sick? For myself, I know for sure that in a minute I will climb into a chair to return my back to normal)))
These massagers go well, but what percentage is later on the shelf, I don't know. We have such a 17 years old)))
Even if you make a small massager from Duo to combat cellulite / to massage the thighs - again, I prefer to hang a massage belt on my ass and use my free hands to cook something in the kitchen or iron the linen)))
marina-asti

If only for the lower back, you can see a small massage pillow.
It is the lower back that can be massaged with Kragen, but the pillow can be a little more comfortable.
NataliaVoronezh
Marin, can I massage my lower back with my massager? It's just that when I was working in the hospital, I tore off my lower back and now just a little, in the "sic" position.
marina-asti
Natalia, try it, you can adapt) I'll show you "Me and Kragen" in just a couple of hours)))

If massage is needed in order of importance:
1. Neck, collar area
2. Loin --- then Kragen is more interesting

if:
1. Back, lower back
2. Neck --- In this case, a massage pillow is worth considering.
Irina F
Marine, but a massager in the form of glasses for the eye area, how is it? Or is the toy bigger?
NataliaVoronezh
No Marina, the priority is the collar zone. The work is sedentary, the workplace is not very comfortable, the neck is numb. It's just that if you sometimes apply it to the lower back and that's good.
marina-asti
Irina F, individually, everything can be, to me with my "sore head", crossed out - I do not like VSD, I am very pressured on the area above the eyes and temples, I do not like helmets either. How many people I saw at Intersharme, many try, but rarely leave with boxes.
Try to roll your palm a la a telescope and press with an inner edge around the eyes, going towards the temporal region, there will be a very rough imitation of air compression. The eye massager, like the massage helmet, works only on the basis of air compression, that is, it is alternately inflated and deflated. Will there be discomfort or not?

Natasha, sometimes applying is just right !!!


Added Wednesday 20 Jul 2016 02:31 PM

Long-awaited photos under the spoiler.

This is how it looks in a live, quite pleasant to the touch surface.
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Its most comfortable position is on the neck. The massager is relatively heavy, approx 2kg, but fits well on the neck. I held the pens with the first hand, because the second had a telephone. If you hold it with 2 hands, it will be much more comfortable))
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The area of ​​the shoulder blades is quite convenient to massage
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And the lumbar area
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Crochet
Quote: marina-asti
I prefer to hang a massage belt on my ass

And which one, Marish ?!
marina-asti
Crochet, big))) the butt is large and the belt must be appropriate)
Probably not on you - from you in general one skeleton will remain))))

I'll go and report to you about rhubarb - by the way, I wrote to you there



If necessary, I will prepare a review by belts.
Crochet
Quote: marina-asti
Probably not on you

Wait a minute Marisha, but are you wearing something on something ?!

And you didn’t seem far from me ...

Meet you in Tahiti in rhubarb ...

A review of the belts is a topic!
marina-asti
Quote: Krosh
but are you wearing something on something ?!
Well, let's measure it in kg)))

Do you really reach 50?))) I doubt it, based on the photos that I saw
There is still more in me) Here Irina F will confirm! this is a dress on me yesterday, which was well chosen by my husband



I'll try to post a review in the evening.
Crochet
Quote: marina-asti
Are you up to 50?

You flatter me, Vera (s) ...

A little bit missing Marish , some 10 kg. ...



Quote: marina-asti
Here Irina F will confirm!

Irishka, well, where are you ?!

Here you need to either confirm or radically refute ...
marina-asti
Quote: Krosh
Marish, just a little bit missing, some 10 kg.
oh (chen) ... (a little) ate, chtol?))) Your belt is contraindicated then, in you, and so apparently one soul remained, so he will shake it out for you! I'm serious!
Crochet
What are you making noise?

I'm not for myself ...

I have a daughter 21 years old), and she has, take her word for it, has something to hang on to !!!

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