GTI Tatiana
I received my sigmund packer. Beautiful. Played already. I had grated Parmesan cheese, vacuum packed in the same package in which the cheese was sold. Cool.
akvamarin171
And today I went through the last greens from the garden - parsley, mint, sage. I vacuumized everything in sachets. And non-standard in a regular freezer bag with an inserted straw. Everything worked out great.
Vacuum packing machine
GTI Tatiana
I bought a hose from Guchu and vacuum zip bags. I made pickled cucumbers in a container. It turned out very tasty.
Now you need to buy a large container for vacuuming screw cans. So that there was a complete set.

Maybe someone will come in handy, sometimes there are bags of cereals, noodles to pour into. I just adapted to seal them directly in their original packaging. It turns out great. And then there are many different pasta and jars are not enough.
alinapressa
I looked through the Temka and the question arose, can you really use a vacuum sealer as a marinator? I wanted to buy both devices, but what is the point? I want redmond, I thought the model was simpler, now it seems, I'm leaning towards redmond with vacuum cans included! And another question, why put the tubes into the bag when vacuuming?
LisaNeAlisa
AlinaI marinate in the biggest jar in redmond. It is necessary to create and release a vacuum several times. You can shake the jar a little when it is under vacuum.
And most of all I like to pack the meat in a bag and while you go to the dacha or to nature everything is sealed and marinated. In the package, the meat withstands 3 days of the hike perfectly.
Arka
The tubes prevent the smooth, non-corrugated bag from sticking together at the inlet even before the air is pumped out. This applies to non-native cheap packages that many use for budgetary reasons. No tubing is required for bags with grooves inside.
alinapressa
LisaNeAlisa, Arka, thanks for answers! Now, I see, there is no need for a marinator :)
GTI Tatiana
Alina, I have a marinator, now he will go to the country. I'm very happy with it. But with the purchase of a vacuumator, there was no need for it. I use a vacuum cleaner for pickling.
Anna67
That is, the rotation does not give anything or you rotate yourself?
GTI Tatiana
Anna, I don’t rotate anything. The vacuum function has a "marinade" function.
He himself pumps and starts the air several times. This sets the marinade in motion in the container. Well, if you want, you can shake it once.
Anna67
And ... I don't have this in mine, I didn't even know that there were such functions.
alinapressa
GTI TatianaWhat kind of vacuum sealer do you have?
GTI Tatiana
Zigmund & Shtain 505Alina, like this.
alinapressa
GTI Tatiana, thanks very much I liked the video review about him. Now, you don't want Redmond so much! Maybe someone used both units and share their impressions?
Twig
In wildberries -25% on everything, summed up with a personal discount. Redmond in my basket turns out
4526 is without containers.
And another model is about 7t
GTI Tatiana
Veta, well, in practice, it turned out that containers are needed on the farm. Probably, if you choose a vacuum apparatus, then the function of the container is. And containers can be purchased.
On the advice of the members of the forum, I bought a hose from Guchu, now the problem with the choice of containers has disappeared.
alinapressa
Twig, in the official redmond store and on the website, a discount for all 30%, for disposal, at least bring a wire from an old phone
Twig
alinapressa, dont know
And I don't need containers. I don't understand their merits. I have enough packages. I'll go to Ali to buy it.
Anna1957
Quote: Twig
I'll go to Ali to buy it.
What do you take there? Even I sold out in earnest The syringe has already been ordered
GTI Tatiana
Quote: Twig
... I don't understand their merits.
For pickling and small things, all containers are good, and it is easier to wash them from sauces, and you can heat them up in the microwave.
Packages are better for the freezer. And vacuum with a zip fastener is good for every day, when you often need to open it.
alinapressa
Sigmund has a marinade button, other packers do not have it, then how to marinate? Just vacuum in the container ??? In general, I choose between sigmund and redmond, maybe caso and bork are a little expensive ...
Arka
You can marinate by simply vacuuming the bag. Under the influence of vacuum, the marinade is quickly "driven" into the product
GTI Tatiana
Alina, not all have a marinade button, but many have a hole for a hose to the container. This feature is very handy.
The bag can be pickled, but the bag is more difficult to wash, and throwing away is expensive.
Bijou
Quote: Arka
You can marinate by simply vacuuming the bag. Under the influence of vacuum, the marinade is quickly "driven" into the product
There can be no vacuum in the package.)) "Vacuum" is translated as "emptiness". That is, there is empty space, but there are no gas molecules there.
Where does the empty space come from in the package?
LisaNeAlisa
Alina, I wrote above that pickling is done when creating and releasing a vacuum. That is, in any packer we pump out the air from the container, wait 2 minutes, you can shake it, let the air in, wait 30 seconds, repeat everything a couple of times.
Arka
Bijou, well, call it thin air. Well, I came to a man on his fingers (in a simple way) to explain, and not tumble with you
alinapressa
Thanks everyone for the answers. Nowhere can I find the sizes of the sigmund packer to compare with the redmond, because in my small kitchen this also matters! Maybe someone can tell me? Again, I choose between sigmund and redmond, which one to take ?? Head spin...
GTI Tatiana
alinapressa,
zigmund 505 dimensions 401x190x92 mm, cord length 1.2 m, weight 2.05 kg
alinapressa
GTI Tatiana, Thank you


Added Sunday, November 13, 2016 12:23 PM

My life will never be the same until I get myself a packer .. I can’t eat or sleep! Where can I watch ZIGMUND & SHTAIN live? Oh, these pangs of choice ...
Belka13
Alina, we have it in DNS. You only have to order. But he's handsome, trust me.
alinapressa
Belka13, but you have two of them? Or am I confusing something? I believe that he is handsome, I wonder how much more he is than Redmond? I liked that there is a film compartment and a cutter :) but are these the necessary things? I want it for permanent residence on the windowsill (20cm wide), because the kitchen is small, but from experience I only use what is not hidden deep in the closet. According to the description, Sigmund is very good, it is not clear why there are so few reviews about him? I have already read more than half of the branch, in the main about caso and proficouk they write, well, about gosh. Gosha is cute in appearance, but not enough functions! And sigmund and redmond (30% off) are in the same price category, but the latter does not have a cutter and a foil milking compartment, but there are 3 containers
LisaNeAlisa
alinapressa, about the film I want to say, I use two or three sizes, so it is stored separately anyway. What you need, that on the occasion and take. But containers are expensive and necessary. And the cutter can be bought in the house, it is cheap there.
I now have a set of redmond 021, a caso pistol, a gochu hose and several sets of wax caps. Option for all occasions ...
Belka13
alinapressa, I have Sigmund and Kaso. Kaso is smaller, Sigmund is slightly wider and deeper. Well, and higher, probably. There are few reviews, because the company appeared in Russia not very long ago and is not well promoted. I can't compare with Redmond - I didn't see them nearby.
I have a few pictures of both packers side by side. I can send it to email if you want.
alinapressa
LisaNeAlisa, I meant the built-in cutter, I think this is very convenient, otherwise it will constantly disappear ...
LisaNeAlisa, and why films of different sizes? I thought to buy the largest size and cut if necessary
Belka13which one do you like more? Caso or sigmund and why?
akvamarin171
Redmond is a little slightly smaller in height, since there is no room in it to store a roll. It's convenient for me that the roll is inside. and the cutter is convenient - everything is smooth.Only there is nowhere to buy a Guchi hose, to give the same amount for the shipment. I also bought a pistol from Kitforth. Yesterday I bought vacuum bags 20 * 30 100pcs 2 packs in Metro. They are smooth, well evacuated with a tube.
About pickling. Marinated mackerel in a bag. She lay in the refrigerator for 4 days, and did not marinate. I had to get it out and keep it in the bank until ready. Then transfer to a container and pump out the air. My verdict is to marinate in a container, not in a bag.


Added Sunday, November 13, 2016 3:53 pm

I also realized that not all packers work with regular packages. And Sigmund can do everything, even packing, with an inserted tube (photo above).
Bijou
And in my opinion, Masha Masinen did some kind of review on packers and there were several of them at once. Redmond was definitely there, Caso, it seems, too, someone else, plus, hand-held small fry ... That is, it is very possible to compare the sizes. Redmond is the smallest of them, that's exactly what I like, because I don't use rolls, there is no point in always keeping them out of hand, taking up space.


Added Sunday, Nov 13, 2016 4:31 PM

Or not Redmond, but Proficuc, which is the same thing, of course.


Added Sunday, Nov 13, 2016 4:34 PM

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=424130.0
valushka-s
This is a Caso comparison by function Tyts ,
and this Mashulya gave exile
Comparative table of parameters of vacuum sealers Caso, Ellrona, Status, Steba, Rommelsbachher
🔗
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: alinapressa
LisaNeAlisa, why do you need films of different sizes? I thought to buy the largest size and cut if necessary
I buy a status, packages are cheaper, it is more convenient to use them for small pieces, for example, sausage or cheese. Cutting large ones is very costly.
francevna
LisaNeAlisa, Anita, so sausage and cheese are more convenient to store in zip bags, they are reusable. I have been using it for over a year.
LisaNeAlisa
Alla, I store in a vacuum only for a long time, or not to take with me. But I'll try with zip packages, thanks)
GTI Tatiana
It is convenient for me when the film is stored in the device. By the way, the CASO 20x600 film fits perfectly. And the fact that the built-in cutter is excellent. You can, of course, buy a cutter separately, but for someone it is good with scissors.
Anna67
Quote: GTI
and someone with scissors is good.
I bought this green one, it seems to hang right on the refrigerator, but I forget to use it. The only time I caught my eye was when I covered the dough with cling film. Well, sort of tore it off.
kil
I came for advice, I want Santa Claus to order a packer, not quite budget, but also not for 20 thousand. Which one to take?
Belka13
Irina, after all, everyone will praise his own. Take a closer look at Sigmund, Redmond, Caso 100 or 150. Ellron is cheap, but everyone liked it.
alinapressa
I still bought a redmond, it is much more compact than a sigmund! If there were more space in the kitchen, I would definitely take a sigmund, an integrated cutter and a roll of film - very captivating! But, I decided to buy a packer for my parents, because they always complain that the products go missing! I think I'll take a sigmund for them and compare them in action :)
kubanochka
Quote: Belka13
Take a closer look at Kaso 100. Ellrona is cheap, but everyone liked it.
I have a heating tape out of order on my Proficuka. Packages are not sealed. Not a single service center has undertaken repairs. Due to the lack of this very tape, and the inability to buy it anywhere. There remains the option of buying a new packer. The question is urgent, since I will go now to buy either Caso 100 or Ellrona. Which is the best of the two?
kil
kubanochka, Lena, and how long did he work for you in the end? I understand that by your scale you used it often?
Belka13
Lena, kubanochka, on this occasion, consult Stebowicz better. I have other models.
Shtebovich
Elena, the CASO VC 100 has a removable liquid collection chamber and a double weld, and ELLRONA is cheaper. Not worse in quality, just less functional.
kubanochka
Shtebovich, thank you very much! The price issue is just the opposite. I will take it "live" in DNS. CASO VC 100 - 3599, and Ellron - 3899. I'll take Caso, it's decided))))

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