Bijou
Karochi. What is there to argue, went and tried.))
No, in Redmond (and Old Prfikuk, that is, too) this trick somehow didn't work out very well with my bags ... The air is pumped out, but nizEnko-nyzEnko weakly weakly. At the same time, I took the package empty and only spread it a little in order to simulate at least some air.) Sucked, yes. But it took too long.
francevna
Quote: marinastom

I don't have such a pipka. Rather, it is on the side, I have a ProfiCook. Therefore, I fell into a stupor.
As I understand it, this is a pipette for the hose and in this case it does not matter?

And I have Proficuk 1080, mentally scrolled in my head and also could not understand. So, not every packer can see this.
Stafa, Svetlana, you're in luck. What brand is the packer?
Stafa
I have a Gastrorag from the metro for 2,000 rubles. But on an empty bag, I did not try to do so. I'm just tired of these tubes sticking out in bags and not being folded, if anything. So I started experimenting with folds. After all, they must somehow be evacuated without tubes. That should be the FSE!
Helen
Stafa, I don't understand either ... and I tried ... nothing happens!
ca-va-bien
Hello everyone, I made myself a gift in the form of an ellron on March 8, tried it a couple of times in action on meat and set it aside. And now, during the harvesting period, I use it very actively, I have a dryer and I have long dreamed of keeping everything in a vacuum.
I bought 20 * 600 Elron rolls, but it's a pity to spend them, so we bought packages from the Metro, they are sealed with a straw perfectly! Thank you who came up with this, my soul is happy that the product will remain so inexpensive!

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Strawberry, bag cut into 2 parts, in order to save. We make the first seam without removing it, after 20-30 seconds we press again and solder the bag with the tube in the same place, then we make an additional seam above the tube. The beauty!
Tumanchik
girls pzhl throw where was the video how to vacuum with a tube
gala10
Irisha, come here.
Tumanchik
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Irisha, come here.
Mila1
Quote: ca-va-bien

Hello everyone, I made myself a gift in the form of an ellron on March 8, tried it a couple of times in action on meat and set it aside. And now, during the harvesting period, I use it very actively, I have a dryer and I have long dreamed of keeping everything in a vacuum.
I bought 20 * 600 Elron rolls, but it's a pity to spend them, so I bought packages from the Metro, it can be sealed with a straw perfectly! Thank you who came up with this, my soul is happy that the product will remain so inexpensive!

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Strawberry, bag cut into 2 parts, in order to save. We make the first seam without removing it, after 20-30 seconds we press again and solder the bag with the tube in the same place, then we make an additional seam above the tube. The beauty!
Natasha, last year I vacuumed strawberry chips like that (you also have chips, as I understand it?). I didn’t like them in a vacuum. They are pressed into a monolith. Just in a plastic container or glass jar under VACS is better
ca-va-bien
In VACS, they became kind of sour, I didn't like it. I packaged in small batches, for a child to eat. I like everything so far.
Bijou
And today I opened a bag of cheese, which I bought a month and a half or two ago at a good discount. Nice cheese, yeah. I cut the bag and it smelled so delicious right away.))
Vinochek
and lay in the refrigerator or in the freezer?

and I just bought such a film with a knife and adapted it for rolls.
🔗
Bijou
Vinochek, just in the refrigerator. I only put the grated leftovers under the pizza in the freezer, I will not risk putting normal cheese in.
Then the vacuum would not be needed either. ))

And what kind of film? So dense that gases from the air do not pass at all, right?
Vinochek
The film is ordinary food, and I put a roll of bags for the packer there. it's convenient to store and cut right away
Bijou
Aaa .. Semyon Semyonich ... It's finally arrived!
Song
Quote: Vinochek

and I just bought such a film with a knife and adapted it for rolls.
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How cool you came up with!
Shtebovich
! I would like to remind you that you need to store the vacuum sealer without snapping on the lid so that the seals do not deform and the device will last longer. Usually, the instructions say about this. I hope you read it?
gala10
Quote: S-t
I hope you read it?
Not all...
Bijou
Gee. I definitely didn’t read the instructions, I guarantee.
I went and checked - nope, not buttoned. Probably, I do such things reflexively so that it doesn't "get spoiled."
But thanks for the reminder.

***
Yesterday I soldered three kilos of peas. The package is almost full, it is inconvenient to fiddle with the straw, keeping the package suspended by the table. Once again I took a napkin (finally, I bought a roll of these synthetic napkins without perfume), a piece with an area of ​​two fingers. I placed it perpendicular to the seam in the corner, so that after cutting the bag, I could seal it again.

And this is what I will tell you, virgins.
Even I started to like this business more than with a straw.

Firstly, with a tube, I am always nervous from a stronger and more uneven pressing and snapping off the lid - I'm afraid to break the latch. Therefore, I suffer with synchronicity in order to prevent out-of-order clicks.

Here, the thickness comes out less and the load is more even.

Secondly, here I did not have to solder with digressions - I simply soldered twice in one place in the "wet" mode and calmed down on that.
Until bag the package is still solid, we'll see further.
gala10
Quote: Bijou
took a napkin (finally, bought a roll of these synthetic napkins without perfume), a piece with an area of ​​two fingers. I placed it perpendicular to the seam in the corner, so that after cutting the bag, I could seal it again.
Can you take pictures?
Helen
Quote: gala10

Can you take pictures?
And I want to see? !!
Bijou
Quote: gala10
Can you take pictures?
I went to shoot.)
I beg your pardon, I lied - it is usually I take a flap that is narrower and longer, but here, it turns out, I cut off a little wider, three fingers. Either because of a large package (usually I do everything in small ones), or because of blunt little scissors.

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Yes, I want to add - with napkins I vacuum dry foods, and with tubes that are wet, which are completely wet, jam, for example.
I haven’t decided on meat for sous-vide yet - out of habit I stick a tube, nevertheless it’s definitely food grade.

In vegetables for freezing or cheese for storage and a napkin will do, IMHO.)
gala10
Lena, thanks for the photo. All clear.
Helen
Lena, thank you, and now it is clear to me ... As I will be at home, they will definitely conduct an experiment ...
Bijou
Please, but this is not for me - right there in the topic about "nonwoven material" it was written a long time ago, even more than a year or two ago.

I just didn't have a packer and I didn't buy such napkins. And then my daughter got carried away with them to remove makeup instead of cotton pads, well, I sat down. And now I bought a small roll separately by a specialist for this business.
kirch
Bijou, Len, and I didn't understand something. That the napkin is not placed over the entire package, but only on the side?
Bijou
And why is it all over the package? The tube takes up even less space.


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However, I do not see any particular "trouble" if someone is more comfortable along the entire length. It just didn't occur to me for some reason. And it is more convenient with a small piece, and less "inedible" inside.
kirch
Now I understand. Thank you
olaola1
Quote: kirch
And why is it all over the package? The tube takes up even less space.
I do not completely suck out the air, if a small piece. I put it on 2 \ 3 of the width of the package. And the next day the bags were depressurized. Now I lay the non-woven fabric slightly below the cut of the bag, and then solder over it again.
Bijou
Quote: olaola1
I do not completely suck out the air, if a small piece.
Aah, I see. No, it seems like Turbo sucks normally.Sometimes I stretch the fabric a little, but yes, I ought to take a closer look, in which version it is better pumped out, along the fractional or across.)

Is the napkin thick? This is my very, thinnest, cheapest option, I chose a specially delicate canvas for easy soldering.

Quote: olaola1
And the next day the bags were depressurized.
Do you solder one place twice?
Yes, the option to solder with an indent on a clean film is good, but I almost always do this with tubes, and then I just started to get rid of such a problem. ((
Marina22
olaola1, I do not suck at all if such a small piece of non-woven. Therefore, I have almost the entire width of the package as in the video.
Probably depends on the thickness and stiffness of the non-woven. I have a strong vacuum cleaner.
If I smoke another kind of non-woven, I'll try and unsubscribe.
olaola1
Quote: Bijou
Do you solder one place twice?
No, once on the non-woven, the second time higher, along the very edge of the bag, without grabbing the non-woven. I also solder twice with straws.
Quote: Marina22
Probably depends on the thickness and stiffness of the non-woven.
Maybe. I will try with another non-woven. But with tulle, I did not succeed at all. In general, the package was not sealed, the tulle did not melt.
kVipoint
I wanted to say about the packages from the Metro, I have already managed to buy them twice at a cost 2.5 times cheaper (100 rubles instead of 263) than they are sold, we have racks with goods that are sold at a discount just because of a little torn packaging, maybe you have the same, so you can pay attention.
About non-woven, well, I don't know if I need to bother with it and a third and half of the tube is enough to seal the bag, if there is no non-woven, is there any point in looking for it?
As for the tubes, I have an elron, probably still it is not strong enough, I solder it even three times if it is not heated and twice if it is heated, otherwise the air leaves through the tube, and yes, moist products are very difficult to solder, even to vacuum cucumbers so that they it is difficult to grind, moisture does not immediately allow it to be done
Anna1957
Quote: kВipoint
As for the tubes, I have an elron, probably still it is not strong enough, I solder it even three times if it is not heated and twice if it is heated, otherwise the air leaves through the tube, and yes, moist products are very difficult to solder, even to vacuum cucumbers so that they it is difficult to grind, moisture does not immediately allow it to be done
Me too. Air is sucked out, the product is wrapped in a bag, sealed - and depressurization. I have already 2 times along the first seam, I will drag the bag - and again for sealing. But somehow it is not so, the result is unpredictable.
How long does Elron need to warm up?
olaola1
Immediately after sealing, I clamp the tube with my nails so that the air is not sucked in, and then I seal it above the tube.

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Anna1957
As soon as I haven’t tried it, it’s all the same every other time. But I only have wet foods - meat, fish for sous-vide.
olaola1
I put a paper towel rolled up in front of the seam. The moisture is absorbed by the paper, the seam is dry.
Anna1957
Quote: olaola1

I put a paper towel rolled up in front of the seam. The moisture is absorbed by the paper, the seam is dry.
But what about then - the juice is always released during the preparation process. The paper will get wet: crazy: stick to the meat.
Prank
And I would not have seen it in meter bags. I use them for storage and transportation.
francevna
Prank, Hope, I think so too.
Marina22
And at first I was delighted with the method of vacuuming with a tube, until I began to notice that the vacuum does not last long. I have already tried it with two seams, it is still gradually depressurized.
Then I read here to see prices about non-woven fabric, Anna, if I'm not mistaken, wrote. Thank you so much.
I liked this method more. Although, most likely, a lot depends on how the bags, the non-woven and the evacuator are "friends" with each other.
I will not search specifically for running, but if possible, I also want to experiment with other non-woven fabrics.
Helen
Nothing worked out for me with the non-woven ...
Bijou
Yes, shozh so and so ... ((When I first read about this case, but I didn't find lutrasil in the house right away, I just took a dry damp napkin and everything was pumped out and sealed. True, it was soon thrown out, because these napkins with a smell and I did not close anything useful there, but it was thrown out in an airtight state at that time.

And while my peas lie, like a pretty little one, on one seam, I buy them once a year, so I tamped them for long-term storage.
Anna1957
And I have not tried with which packages. Everything is perfectly sealed and immediately depressurized. Maybe you really need to take a thicker non-woven fabric. Or try it in several layers. It must be sealed in the seam without fail?
ElenaBK
Helen, Lena, what didn't work out? Was the fabric not soldered? Has the air been pumped out?
What size cloth did you take? Here I am a little thing. The vacuumator has been donated for a month already, I have never tried it, but I pester with questions
Bijou
Listen, people .. But it looks like one of me has packages not from the Metro, right?


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Quote: Anna1957
And I have not tried with which packages.
And with what? Where did you get it?
olaola1
Quote: Anna1957
The paper will get wet and stick to the meat
I don't stuff the bags with meat to the eyeballs.
I put it so that the meat does not touch the paper, and then, after sealing, I also tuck the bag in front of the paper roll. Nothing sticks. But for sous vide I use only corrugated bags, and metrovsky ones for storing food in the freezer.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
And with what? Where did you get it?
I have the Metrovskys. Tried milk cartons, as someone here advised. Today, for the sake of joke, I tried a bag of bread. Everything with a non-woven fabric is perfectly evacuated and immediately filled with air again. 2 seams, 3 seams - no difference.
melanya
Anna1957, so because bags are made of other polyethylene, which by itself allows air to pass through, not through the seams, but through its structure
Taia
Quote: melanya

Anna1957, so because bags are made of other polyethylene, which by itself allows air to pass through, not through the seams, but through its structure

I also mentally came to this conclusion.

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