marinastom
Also Natasha - Waist... Irish Bread has not pleased us for a long time either ...
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

Masha, for sure !!!
Lenaaaaaaa !!!!!
Hi, I am not visiting the forum because there are no notifications about new messages. Something broke?? I thought that I was still "at dachas and on vacations." And here is a message from a personal I am writing for everyone interested.
I chose the "European" for several reasons:
1.their price is lower on the Internet market (the lack of domestic guarantees affects)
2. the presence of three additional programs Italian, Brioche, Sandwich. For 2 months now I have been constantly baking chabata, gray bread (before that I baked in other modes and I liked the Italian mode more on combined ones). Brioche cannot be replaced by any other mode. The pastry is very tasty. Sandwich did not yet understand its zest, baked it once and switched to other modes. The husband makes the dough for dumplings with his hands, although there is a kitchen. harvester.
Any recipes from the forum + recipes from the book (translated only additional programs) Recipes from the forum and others I will adapt to local flour, this is the only correction. I put a light crust (after a week with a medium crust) in the baking, the heating element has developed, it fries well. I never put a dark one.
There is a difference in materials, judging by the work of the raisin dispenser. Before buying, I looked at this part in stores, so I can compare. Electronics are also different - different programmer.
Works since February, no squeaks, works like a clock.
I learned all the advantages only when I bought it and I am very glad that I took the risk and bought it without a guarantee. As for breakdowns, factory defects appear from the beginning of operation within 2 months. Then you don't have to worry - mine has worked longer.
By the way, yesterday they brought the Siemens SR66T093EU dishwasher again "European". Satisfied "like an elephant."
It's up to you to decide if you have any questions I will answer with pleasure. And the dispenser is CLASS as is the electronic display on the floor in front of my dishwasher. If there is an opportunity to buy "primbambasik" why put yourself into a shirt ....
P.S. I bought a dishwasher "European" for 5500 gr in an official store about 9000 gr. in the internet 7600gr. So you can "chic" while saving.
Wit
Thank you Lenochka! I think Marihuna will be pleased.
But about "... because there are no notifications of new messages. Something broke? ..." I suspect the following. In the mailbox, the Delete and Spam buttons are side by side. Sometimes you can miss and poke the "Spam" button instead of "Delete" and notifications will fly to the spam folder automatically. You need to open the "Spam" folder and see if there are any messages from the bread machine in it. RU? If there is, then put a tick in front of the message and press the button "NOT SPAM". And everything will be the way!

What a NOSHMAAAR! the emoticon with beer was exchanged for kefir! FOR WHATOOOOO !!!!!!!!
Rina
the emoticon with beer went to "additional emoticons", because "those who do not drink in the night" became more active here, kefir is more relevant to them
Narkom
Quote: Rina

the emoticon with beer went to "additional emoticons", because "those who do not drink in the night" became more active here, kefir is more relevant to them
clinking kefir ... a nightmare
Wit
Quote: Rina

the emoticon with beer went to "additional emoticons", because "those who do not drink in the night" became more active here, kefir is more relevant to them
For INTO ego soooo !!! Let milk live on children's sites. Signature of this emoticon in the original "Drink milk"
Wit
Quote: Narkom

clinking kefir ... a nightmare
Exactly! Just like two psychos.
RETURN PIIIIVoooooooo !!!!!
Rina
oh ... not "non-drinkers", but "non-drinking" ...

Boys, ladies throw off excess weight, prettier. Be condescending
Narkom

Drink is a drink in a glass, and it monitors the weight and cooks what the girls do on the site, these concepts are not compatible. That's what my wife tells me.
Wit
Quote: Rina

oh ... not "non-drinkers", but "non-drinking" ...

Boys, ladies throw off excess weight, prettier. Be condescending
Well, let them be handsome, but emoticons are two MEN !!!!!! And chew with milk! The chickens will laugh at us! They will think that there is an open day in the madhouse and all the psychos have rushed to our site.
Narkom
Quote: Wit

Well, let them be pretty, but emoticons are two MEN !!!!!! And chew with milk! The chickens will laugh at us! They will think that there is an open day in the madhouse and all the psychos have rushed to our site.
Well, here on the forum a couple of people live, so it's not a big madhouse
Wit
Manechka and all-all
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
... I'm for a beer
Rina
Damn ... ek you determine the sex of the emoticons ... I also have no braids, I have short-haired "boys" closer. And what, hang yourself?
Wit
Quote: Rina

Damn ... ek you determine the sex of the emoticons ... I also have no braids, I have short-haired "boys" closer. And what, hang yourself?
Yes, local girls taught me how to distinguish them. I even have a certificate.
Elena 65
Vitalik, I check spam every day and throw it away, a lot of it comes. A message came in today. And about Beer, you can have two emoticons and kefir and beer, depending on your mood.
Wit
Yes, I propose so! Here discrimination is visible. Or maybe we, the peasants, are hinting in this way that we would be thrown from the forum. Feminism leaped. Interestingly, the Baker will also be kicked out?
I give help. I do not in any way condemn the actions of the administration, but only speak out, as I understand this mockery of us - men. Let them attach pigtails to these men with milk (in the original - drink milk) and at least burst milk with buckets. I'll quit.
Elena 65
My husband laughs, the last men were kicked out. (In a hat and "men in black" 8) do not count)
Wit
Quote: Elena 65

My husband laughs, the last men were kicked out. (In a hat and "men in black" 8) do not count)
That's right, Helen! Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3) Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3) Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
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mak200
I'm newbie, just signed up to ask a question.
I'm going to go now and buy a bread maker.
Panasonic SD2501 in Eldorado costs 4800r.
1. Should I take it? After all, there is a newer model in 2 dispensers - SD-ZB2502.
2. How important is this second dispenser? Is it worth it to overpay for it?
Please help with advice.
Wit
Quote: mak200

I'm newbie, just signed up to ask a question.
I'm going to go now and buy a bread maker.
Panasonic SD2501 in Eldorado costs 4800r.
1. Should I take it? After all, there is a newer model in 2 dispensers - SD-ZB2502.
2. How important is this second dispenser? Is it worth it to overpay for it?
Please help with advice.
You are now on page 124. Go back to the 122nd and read how they differ and what nafig you need. Read page 123 especially carefully. I understand that you have nothing to choose from, otherwise you would not have been brought into this lohorado. If something is not clear again - contact us, we will help. ... unless the beer emoticon is returned. Joke.
Wish you a happy shopping!
Narkom
Quote: mak200

I'm newbie, just signed up to ask a question.
I'm going to go now and buy a bread maker.
Panasonic SD2501 in Eldorado costs 4800r.
1. Should I take it? After all, there is a newer model in 2 dispensers - SD-ZB2502.
2. How important is this second dispenser? Is it worth it to overpay for it?
Please help with advice.
if design is not important, then take 01, if design is important then 02.
Wit
I will add that the "design" is a sheet of stainless steel wrapped around the body.
Narkom
Quote: Wit

I will add that the "design" is a sheet of stainless steel wrapped around the body.
natural and "black" cover
Wit
Quote: Narkom

natural and "black" cover
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3) Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
Dukhnich Nadezhda
Quote: mak200

I'm newbie, just signed up to ask a question.
I'm going to go now and buy a bread maker.
Panasonic SD2501 in Eldorado costs 4800r.
1. Should I take it? After all, there is a newer model in 2 dispensers - SD-ZB2502.
2. How important is this second dispenser? Is it worth it to overpay for it?
Please help with advice.

Of course, take it, great price for Panasonic. The main thing is to check the operation of the engine in the store, on the dumplings program. And when you start baking the first bread at home, do not be surprised that the oven in the main mode for the first 40-60 minutes will be silent - this is the temperature equalization mode.Many use it to raise dough, but these are subtleties. I also have a model with one dispenser. It's enough. The second dispenser, for yeast, in my opinion, is an unnecessary gadget. He will wake you up at night with his roar, if you put bread with a delayed start.
* Tanya *
Quote: Wit

I will add that the "design" is a sheet of stainless steel wrapped around the body.

Quote: Narkom

natural and "black" cover

Men said
Narkom
Quote: * Tanya *

Men said
and user of unit 2502
Irishka CH
Quote: Wit

I understand that you have nothing to choose from, otherwise you would not have been brought into this lohorado.
Vit! What do you have against Eldorado? I also bought in this store! Then we traveled a lot. And there was the cheapest model! Well, you know, where I live there is no choice at all - the village! And I get to the regional center with a passing horse and purposefully. First, I rummaged around in the internet, looked at the prices, then we drove around the city, “rolled” my husband and son until I chose. So I was looking specifically for 2501 then. And in Eldorado the cheapest was! Works. I'm not overjoyed !!!! And I am very grateful to that consultant boy who was busy with me.
Narkom
And so my laziness got to the dumplings, I'm going to make the dough in HB
Wit
Quote: Irishka CH

Vit! What do you have against Eldorado?
Ira, you are lucky that you have decent people working in this store. We have a completely different picture. I think in Moscow too. After all, "Lohorado" I did not come up with. This characteristic-klikuha has been walking on the Internet for more than one year. I ran into this one time and never went there again. I hope you did not impose additional. a guarantee? They have a lot of rogue chips. I will not write about them, I will give you a couple of links (NOT the Yandex market): 🔗, and there, pay attention at least to this review: "... fufufu, I spit poison, bastards, bastards, thieves, illiterate! ..." and there are reviews of who worked there. And you are lucky and I am happy for you.
Oh, sorry! Next time I'll be on you!
mak200
Thank you all for your answers!
I see that you have a responsive company here.

I bought the stove, now I'm preparing the "first pancake".
I chose the recipe as simple as possible, I hope something will come out.
Worried, the instructions say that the paddle should fit tightly onto the shaft.
I put on very freely, even dangles.
Lagri
Quote: Wit

I hope you did not impose additional. a guarantee?
Wit, I was also somehow imposed in Eldorado add. a guarantee in the amount of about 4 thousand rubles. I paid, but then I took them.
Lagri
Quote: mak200

Thank you all for your answers!
I see that you have a responsive company here.

I bought the stove, now I'm preparing the "first pancake".
I chose the recipe as simple as possible, I hope something will come out.
Worried, the instructions say that the paddle must be firmly fitted onto the shaft.
I put it on very freely, even dangles.
Congratulations on a great purchase! With the spatula, everything is OK, it should be so.
Wit
Quote: mak200


Worried, the instructions say that the paddle should fit tightly onto the shaft.
I put it on very freely, even dangles.
Hmm! Indeed it is written! : o I would like to read the original in English. I suspect this is an incorrect translation. As experts said, this chatting was even patented by the Japanese. SO IT SHOULD BE. Do not worry - everyone has it. Take a picture of the first bread and put it here. It's like a tradition. Good luck to you!
Irishka CH
Quote: Wit

And you are lucky and I am happy for you.
Oh, sorry! Next time I'll be on you!
Vooot! And then she WASTS, it's straight that I'm a lady aged ...
Maybe I was lucky. Agree. And ATP for the exile, I study. Although we had the same attitude to this store. And there is even. God bless him! We're discussing our stoves here, right?
Wit
Lena! Please look at the instructions for installing the blade in your European.
Wit
Quote: Irishka CH

We're discussing our stoves here, right?
Of course, honey!
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marinastom
Quote: Wit

Lena! Please look at the instructions for installing the blade in your European.
Here is a page of instructions translated by Natasha-Waist... There is not "hard", but "hard".
Not inserted as a picture. Here's a link. / users / n-molokova77 / view / 734366 /? page = 0 # preview
Doesn't give a link to insert. In short, on Yandex photos.
Wit
Manechka, can you literally have these two lines here? And then the link was there to the fig on removed, even modified ...
marinastom
"Make sure the kneading paddle is firmly on the protruding shaft." Where Natasha has disappeared, she does not come to us.
Vital, I respect men very much, especially some, much more than beer. So it makes no difference to me, with pigtails smiley or bald.
marinastom
Quote: Wit

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3) Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)
I liked it very much! So I could not dig up emoticons in this Arcanum.
Elena 65
Quote: mak200

I'm newbie, just signed up to ask a question.
I'm going to go now and buy a bread maker.
Panasonic SD2501 in Eldorado costs 4800r.
1. Should I take it? After all, there is a newer model in 2 dispensers - SD-ZB2502.
2. How important is this second dispenser? Is it worth it to overpay for it?
Please help with advice.
"ZAREGALSIA" what a promising word, did not immediately understand its meaning. And about taking or not taking, advise all BEGINNERS to read the second half and make a choice YOURSELF.
A paddle with a backlash allows you to remove bread without a paddle, "baking" keeps the paddle on the shaft while removing the bread. In the instructions, the word "firmly" the second meaning is "final-to-finish"
Wit
Lena, and there my request was. This: "Lena! Please look in your European for the installation instructions for the blade." I want to see the English text. Marinka has already translated for me, but I want to clarify one word
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

Lena, and there my request was. This: "Lena! Please look in your European for the installation instructions for the blade." I want to see the English text. Marinka has already translated for me, but I want to clarify one word
What is the word?
Wit
About shovel !!!!! How it should be attached to the shaft! The whole offer is in english movi
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

About shovel !!!!! How it should be attached to the shaft! The whole offer is in english movi
She translated the catalog at her daughter-in-law
Wit
Quote: Elena 65

She translated the catalog at her daughter-in-law
Elena 65
3.stecken sie den knethaken fest auf den schaft (german) insert dough tight on the shaft Looked at the German instruction. The error is that lines 1-2-3 refer to the picture with the form. To the drawing with batch. the spatula refers to the entry under the picture, which says that everything would be clean when you insert the spatula.
Wit
Quote: Elena 65

3.stecken sie den knethaken fest auf den schaft (german) insert dough tight on the shaft Looked at the German instruction. The error is that lines 1-2-3 refer to the picture with the form. To the drawing with batch. the spatula refers to the entry under the picture, which says that everything would be clean when you insert the spatula.
BOOOOOOOT !!!!! There the lines are not for the pattern with the spatula, but for the shape! I immediately suspected it. Thanks Lena!
Elena 65
Quote: Wit

BOOOOOOOT !!!!! There the lines are not for the pattern with the spatula, but for the shape! I immediately suspected it. Thanks Lena!
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