Fofochka
Tell me. Should it be so? During the kneading of the dough, the mixer twitches and makes an unpleasant sound. Isn't it a marriage.?
Vei
and on what test does it twitch, on a steep one?
Masinen
I think it is normal for the mixer to jerk and make a sound when kneading dough. But dough for bread, dumplings, those of this type of dough.
But if this happens when kneading a batter, then this is not good)
My kenwood also moves his head when kneading dough, it is provided there. Those are the norm.
If it doesn't move, it will break.
Fofochka
Dough for bread.
Mikhaska
I have Kitchen since 2011. Son to mom dragged brought as a gift from the States. I knead 1.5 kg in it. dumplings and he never twitched. And the sound during mixing is always even - monotonous. Yes, what can I say, it is problematic to move him from his place, (such a heavy, infection). So, I think that if he "twitches", then, apparently, something is wrong.
P.S. However, here's what came to mind. For the very first time, when trying to knead dumplings dough, sounds and rattling, unimaginable in their cacophonic effect on the ear, began to be heard. By probing Kitchen parts, we came to the conclusion that the bowl on the mixer was not completely fixed. It is not enough to put it on the side holders. It must be pressed down with force in the place as close as possible to the rack. Then it will fit tightly. After this discovery, I had no more problems with my American.
I hope that the same happened to you as to me. No more and no worse.
Vei
Fofochka, you still need to check how the nozzle is installed correctly and whether there is flour in this nest, sometimes it also makes a grinding noise.
SerVanWolf
Are there any fakes? I bought a speed switch in mvideo, it works very strange, tight. When switching, the intermediate one immediately turns on (for example, 3 at once) and only if the regulator is very smoothly moved back, the 2nd turns on. The first one either does not work at all, or works in a strange way.
Plus, the gearshift scale itself looks a little different. The scale divisions are not rectangular, but circular.
Another feature of the lettering on the silver bolted strip is different from those in the photographs on the Internet. Instead of a picture of a mixer in the lower and upper positions, there is an open / closed lock and some inscriptions are missing.
KitchenAid Mixer

The mixer itself does not make any impressions yet. The kneading blades are surprisingly light and plastic-like, very similar to the material of dubious quality - silumin. Although the description says that it is stainless steel.
I have been there while kneading wheat dough and slightly liquid rye. He does not produce the feeling of a "beast" (of course, kneading at the 2nd speed as recommended in the instructions) and somehow howls plaintively. Heats up quickly enough, the instructions say that the maximum use time is 5 minutes. And this is a kind of semi-professional unit?
Further, the body material itself is not magnetised. Isn't it a Silumin there too? If so, then everything is very sad and he is not worth his money.
Either I have a fake, or the fame of these mixers is greatly exaggerated.
CatNat
Sergey, I don’t think that you have a fake, they hardly exist at all, I have nominally 10 speeds declared, in fact the second speed corresponds to the division “2-4.” As for the blades, in Artisan they are not made of stainless steel, they are made of blades at another kitchen model, more expensive. It works for me for more than 5 minutes, yes, it heats up, but I have not found such a strange limitation anywhere in the instructions. Does it normally "howl" :-) or is it a roar of bestiality? On the contrary, the cheaper counterparts of the mixer work very loudly, immediately there is a smooth and quiet hum of the motor.
SerVanWolf
Natasha,
Thanks for the speed. About 5min, ran quickly according to the instructions, there really is nothing, but somewhere I came across it, perhaps a damaged phone. Well, since nothing terrible happened during your use, that's great.
And on howling, the feeling as if he cannot cope with the load, he already feels sorry for him. Normal means normal. We will test further.
CatNat
Everything with you, Sergey, is fine :-) just when you get to know the device you listen to every sound, by the way, I didn't see in the instructions how long the device can continuously work, I had a bread test for about 15-20 minutes.
Twig
It leaves a feeling of a beast when beating eggs, cream.
Well, I knead the dough for bread for about 10 minutes, no more is needed.
I don't make dough on dumplings in kitschen after I got acquainted with the amazing method of kneading in 21 seconds in a food processor.

I bought a dough roll with noodle cutters from the attachments. This bliss and meditation is simple.
The vegetable cutters seemed cumbersome, I don't have so much space in the kitchen. The meat grinder did not inspire confidence, I like to chop meat with a blender.
An ice cream maker from Ozone is going, I don't know what kind of beast and whether I need it, grabbed on a wave of mass hysteria and crisis.
Katenka
Girls, tell me, I bought Artisan, I mixed the biscuit dough wonderfully, BUT ran a spatula along the sides of the bowl - the dough got dirty with dark. I don’t understand how to deal with it
Scarecrow
Katenka,

I do not understand what you mean. Can I be more detailed?
Antonovka
Where can I find instructions for the KA5KSM150PSEWH? By chance I got it - with three nozzles, bowl 4.83 - but no instructions I want to try it in business - but I'm afraid
Seven-year plan
🔗

Antonovka, Lena, this one?
Antonovka
Seven-year plan,
Light, there is no such page for some reason And this or not this one I just don't know - for me they are all the same, only differ in color (I am sitting on the website 🔗 )
LLC, I seem to have found what I need on your website - I went to read
Seven-year plan
linen, I downloaded from this site. 🔗
And so they are all the same, you are right, they differ only in color.
The last letters in the number are the color numbers.
Katenka
Scarecrow, I kneaded the biscuit dough, began to take it out of the bowl with a silicone spatula and noticed the dark stripes on the dough, you start to remove the dough from the walls and darkness appears. it feels like there is a black layer between the sides of the bowl and the dough. And the question is: should the whisk touch the sides of the bowl when mixing?
Antonovka
Seven-year plan,
Light, I understand that your link on the page did not fit entirely - .pdf did not fit)))

I have a white one)) Lies in a box, and I'm afraid of him. Although now my dough mixer is worth another - some Italian, and KA for me always seemed to be a fantastic technique
Scarecrow
Katenka,

What whisk was used? Wirewound? Run your fingers over it. He has a "base" (heel) silumin and when washed in a dishwasher, for example, it darkens and is heavily smeared. There is simply nothing to leave stripes there: a stainless steel bowl, nickel-plated rods. All this is not smeared. Look for the problem in the scapula, unwashed, and the dough itself. And if the mixer is brand new, check out the rotating part. Maybe there is an excess of lubricant and it got / dripped into the dough. Just wipe everything.
Seven-year plan
Antonovka, Linen. Then go to the site,

🔗

There you will see - DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS.
From there I threw off.
Seven-year plan
Lenado not be afraid of him! He's awesome !!!!
I do everything on it! All types of dough (though I haven't tried shortbread yet)
I have a lot of attachments for it, including graters. Therefore, it stands on the work surface, so that it would always be at hand!
I love him very much. The most popular with me.
Scarecrow
My Kitchen was simply raped for cooking for the holiday))). I kneaded a biscuit for a cake in it, meat for manti on it, dough for them on it, rolled out the dough on it, kneaded a cake on it, etc. I love him dearly.
Katenka
Scarecrow, thanks, maybe the grease really dripped!
Seven-year plan
Scarecrow, Nata, same!!!!
He worked incessantly !!!!
Crochet
Quote: Scarecrow
I love him dearly.

I thought, however ...

Do I need this one too?
Tanyusha
Crochet, I, too, while thinking, and he has risen in price so that now the toad is strangling. 🔗
Antonovka
Scarecrow, Seven-year plan,
Girls, I'm reading the instructions here. I thought about the yeast dough - at speed 1 it is impossible and not higher than 2. But what about Omelkin's bread recipes - so much at a slow speed, so much at an average ... So think here
Seven-year plan
Lena, I do it by intuition, I don't even look at the instructions.
You look at the state of the dough, cream - and how it should be and interfere.
Americans, they are reinsurers. If you read the instructions there, then it's generally scary to turn it on.
Scarecrow
Antonovka,

I have not read the instructions even once and knead it as I see fit))).
Irina F
Natasha, I agree with you. Here, too, I have not read the instructions even once, everything is somehow by itself)))
Sergey_A
Quote: Scarecrow
I have Kitchen ... he was just raped))). ... I love him dearly.
Well, you are loving !!! The truth is somehow peculiar.
Sergey_A
Quote: Krosh
And we can also need this one
Many people need it. But for several times more than 20tr you need to buy for cooking or dining, and not for the kitchen. I'm so caezza.
Scarecrow
Quote: Sergey_A

Well, you are loving !!! The truth is somehow peculiar.

Why peculiar? That's how you should love men !! It is from such love that they melt like ice cream in the sun))). I know the approach to real men)).
Crochet
Quote: Tanyusha
it has risen in price so much that now the toad is choking

And my croak still has no idea how much he has grown in price ...

Now I'll kick it, let it jump off, estimate the size of the disaster ...
Sergey_A
Quote: Scarecrow
I was just raped .... That's the way to love men !!
For some reason, if a man suddenly falls in love with him, then ... they call the police.
Quote: Scarecrow
It is from such love that they melt like ice cream in the sun)))
It is delicious. In the absence of the Sun - I will go eat the unbreakable (cold from the freezer).
Scarecrow
Quote: Sergey_A

For some reason, if a man suddenly falls in love with him, then ... they call the police. It is delicious. In the absence of the Sun - I will go eat the unbreakable (cold from the freezer).

A girl should have been born!))) And there would be no problems!))
Sergey_A
: lol: Neee ..., to each his own! For some reason, I don’t like to please the peasants - that is, I don’t want and will not.
Tanyusha
Crochet, now they cost 49,990 rubles.
Sergey_A
There are also for 39999r ... But these are not cheap either.
SerVanWolf
Quote: Sergey_A
Many people need it. But for several times more than 20tr you need to buy for cooking or dining, and not for the kitchen. I'm so caezza.
Yes, it is not suitable for either cooking or dining. There the volumes of products are different and the volume of work on a daily basis. This mixer is related to the professional segment only by the price. In cooking and dining, it just falls apart.
It is for people who are keen on cooking and at most a small (very small) private pastry shop.
The company itself for professional use (as far as possible with a 6.9 liter bowl) recommends something like this 🔗
Seven-year plan
I went to the site now!
Mom dear !!!!! Price!!!!!! I'm shocked !!!!
I wonder if the dollar falls (let's be optimists), they will lower the price ???

It's so good that I bought it long ago ...
But the eldest now lives separately and slowly set up her kitchen ...
She really likes this mixer ...
Yes .... And what to do ??? ...
Sergey_A
Here I am about the same, but briefly.
Quote: SerVanWolf
recommends like this ...
Which is no longer as cool. and a table .. Would be 1 in 1 ruble with $ - and we would have taken without hesitation.
SerVanWolf
Quote: Seven-year
I wonder if the dollar falls (let's be optimists), they will lower the price ???
Optimism is certainly good, but you have to be realistic. In the current reality, the dollar will only rise in price. And there is nothing special in kitschen. You can look at more affordable analogues.
Taia
Quote: SerVanWolf
You can look at more affordable analogs.
For example?
SerVanWolf
Taia,
for example 🔗... Kitchen may be steeper, but not by 20,000 tons. Kenwoods seem to have written quite well.
There are topics on the choice of kneaders and combines. Look there, maybe you can pick up something else, here it's still offtopic.
Tanyusha
Well, I don't like kenwoods, but I have a kneader, but it works like a tractor, so I use it once a year.I will dream about kitchenaid.
Irina F
I'll put my penny in if you don't mind). I really like my mixer. I walked to him long enough, being distracted on the way to Kenwoods, Boshi, Borki. At one point, after visiting the exhibition, I caught fire to buy Stadler forms. I ordered it on ozone, brought it, I tried it and returned it back. Either there was a marriage, or it was just like that, but I didn't want to go with it (.
And then she decided, and, a little less than a year ago, Kitchen bought it. I really like how he hums during work, I like that he is so heavy, it's a straight thing). Perfectly whips, kneads the dough into biscuits. Yeast, I knead hn, it's more convenient for me. But for Easter cake only in it.
Of course, the price for it is exorbitant now, but it seems like now with any product like this
SerVanWolf
Tanyusha,
The main thing is that in the end you are not disappointed. For he kneads rye and wheat bread dough on average, the bread maker does it as well, if not better. Beats the biscuit on average, with a regular mixer it turns out the same thing, well, the gain is small in time. Minced meat beats out well, yes. I was also inspired by advertising, a monolithic iron construction, no plastic, brutally kneading the dough, etc. And as a result, there is one silumin everywhere and a plastic protective gear in the mechanism, which is a huge minus. Another weak part of the structure (for the model with a rising head) is the place where the working part is attached to the bed. There he swings strongly in different directions, which may end badly over time.

Look through the first pages of the topic, there people order in Europe and America. Perhaps you will find something interesting for the price. But the American 110v model does not work in our network without crutches.
Seven-year plan
Well I do not know!!! Everybody has a marriage!
But I chose my Kitchen not only with my head, but also with my heart !!!
Well, I LIKE it, that's all !!!
I want to cook in the kitchen, and this should give me pleasure and aesthetic as well! (In this, women are probably different from men)

I have a lot of Kitchen appliances in my kitchen - and I get great pleasure from it !!!
Of course you can, for example, buy a manual coffee grinder! And grinding coffee in it is no worse!
But when I start grinding coffee in my (so beautiful !!! But even according to technical indicators, not the worst, but even the best) Kitchen, then this is the beginning of some kind of ritual! And coffee seems to me even tastier!

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