Tomarik
Fotina,
Quote: Fotina
But I'm not at all sure that she cooks for 7 thousand)). And I will keep quiet about the initial cost)

Few people write about a minor flaw, but it also exists. Constant hum of the fan and the noise of steam from a running multi.
Marpl
These shortcomings have been written about more than once. The noise from the fan is due to the work of induction, there is no noiseless device for cooling yet, maybe it will appear someday. But induction cooks faster. And regarding the release of steam during operation, this MV-S has such modes, but at the end you can immediately open it, and not wait until the pressure is released. So these disadvantages can be considered the advantage of this device.
Helen
Quote: Marpl
But induction cooks faster. And regarding the release of steam during operation, this MV-S has such modes, but at the end you can immediately open it, and not wait until the pressure is released. So these disadvantages can be considered the advantage of this device.
I, too, when I cooked for the first time ... I was shocked by this, and thought that I would not make friends, and thought well, what a hell of it ... And now, we can say that I put everything aside and only cook in it!
Irlarsen
I'm for induction with both hands (and feet). Gradually switched almost completely to induction appliances (except for the contact grill). The electricity gain is this time, it heats up in two seconds, the purity is TRIIII! This is three, all three tr, which cannot be described! Maybe, of course, there are such super cleaners and their plates and circles in cartoons keep their original cleanliness for years, but I'm lazy, I'm too lazy to clean everything every five minutes. My first induction multi is four years old, and it is inside like from a store and I am not doing ANYTHING at the same time. Well, clean up the pancakes inside the usual multi, which you would have to breathe for, and they turn black and dirty before our eyes! Or cleaning the stove from something that has run away? NO NO NO
INDUCTION!!!!!!! That is, the price of an induction multi can be compared only with the price of another induction multi, and not with the usual

IMHO
Belka13
The first five times I was scared by the noise, then I got used to it and was even glad - even from the next room I hear that the dish will be ready soon. And nowhere else could I get such delicious soup and pilaf that Element prepares. That is, its disadvantages are overlapped by advantages a hundred times.
optimist
Virgo, I've been reading the topic from the very beginning, but I don't understand the Element, because the pressure cooker !? Why then do you write about the cooking time of 60 minutes. and more?
LudMila
optimist, The element can work without pressure.
Like Shteba, for example, who is also a pressure cooker.))
Marpl
This is MV, but with a CB function. The Koreans have some tricky programs - the program works, but at a certain moment the CB mode turns on. Therefore, in order not to rack our brains, we believe that the regimes work as in the Army. And when everything is ready and invited to the table, then we will open the lid. The main thing is that it cooks deliciously.
Irlarsen
optimist, This is a cartoon with a Korean valve. That is, this is not a pressure cooker or a multicooker in the usual sense. Let's put it this way: A multicooker is an automatic machine with pressure. The pressure is relieved and regulated automatically. That is, when the dish is ready, it is ready, you can open and apply, and not wait for the pressure release or force it to be released.
Fotina
In general, I ordered a cartoon at the Top shop. But for some reason, nothing came to the mail, no SMS, no call. Only the site hangs in unfinished orders. More than an hour has passed. Are they not responsive?
Svetlana
Last night I ordered another Wishlist from them, they called back in the morning after 10.
velli
Yesterday I came across a video review of the Element FWA 01PBEl multicooker by one user.She talked a lot about the merits of this multicooker every now and then repeating: "this multicooker-steamer" and so several times during the entire review. And she showed the stages of cooking a vegetable stew. When the moment of steam and pressure relief came, I was just in shock! The steam poured out such a powerful jet like a steam locomotive, and at the same time everything was accompanied by such a terrible hiss, just horror! I was inclined to buy and, just in case, I decided to watch a video review of a future purchase, but after this viewing I suddenly got sick of buying it. To put such a locomotive, I have nowhere to hang hanging cabinets, and I have no hoods yet. I don't even know what to do. The author of this video repeated several times that it is better not to put this multicooker under the wall cabinets, only in an open space (on a table like hers). Girls, is it that she is actually letting off steam like that, or is it too much water poured when laying food?
Belka13
velli, valentine, the slow cooker really lets off steam that much. Plus, there is no need, as in Shteba, to wait for the valve to go down, you can immediately open the lid and apply the cooked.
I have a multicooker under the hood. If she was not there, I would cook on the dinner table and then clean up.
velli
Belka13, Olga, I have a pressure cooker Oursson-5002, it also lets off steam and after the descent you can immediately open it to get food, so I like it more than all the Oursson that I have (5005 and 5015). you can't open it right away, you have to wait or play off on the sly by yourself, which I never do. Olenka thanks for the quick reply! You helped me! I had no idea about the "pitfalls" in this slow cooker! I read briefly about the steam that comes out from under the chtoli lid, from someone, but not about the release of steam through the valve. What a shame!
Belka13
velli, valentine, I very quickly got used to it, honestly! The Element has much more merits!
Fotina
Although I was ordered (called back), I don't see any advantages after reading the first 30 pages of the topic. Not even taking this plastic ring into account (by the way, where to look, I will teach my husband to check so that he does not accidentally take it). People fight with cereals - both friable, not friable, and dairy like soup, not boiled. Jellied meat is hard ..)) it seems like there were no complaints about potatoes))
velli
Belka13, Olga“Maybe you are right to have a cooker hood, but I don’t have it and will not have it soon. Somewhere in the winter when I will change the furniture in the kitchen. And I don’t argue that the slow cooker is good, and many are happy with it, despite this incident. We'll have to use Orsyusha 5005 or 5015 there, after all, everything is much better with steam and steam baskets such as in the Element. I would like to know the opinion of users of these two pressure cookers.
Belka13
Fotina, Svetlana, which means it's just not your slow cooker. For example, I don’t use a small filet or pizza makers at all - not my devices.
velli
Well, why praise her if such "surprises" are brought up by such a clever, so good woman! Well, I don't know, the further into the forest, the more firewood! What else does she cook well? Some of the girls wrote that delicious pilaf, delicious meat is obtained. In general, this to some extent influenced the purchase of the Element, but on the other hand, in other s / in Shteba and Oursons there is rm Vexation, and what is it better in Element, I still cannot understand.




Fotina, Svetlana did not quite understand you: do you take it or not?
Belka13
velli, valentine, I rarely use the steak, I don’t have Oursson, but compared to other multicooker (and I have a lot of them too, believe me) in Element everything turns out to be tastier. The meat is not boiled, but cooked evenly, I began to make porridge in a crumbly mode - there are no problems, the soup has time to cook, the broth is transparent. And the noise and spitting out steam do not annoy me. I have both an electric kettle and a soup cooker soaring very strongly, I have to pull them out from under the wall cabinets and unfold them.
Only in Element, beef and turkey breast turned out the way I wanted them to be - juicy and tasty.
Marpl
I have these MBs, Orson 5015 also scored all last summer on the stock. They have different cooking modes and meat dishes and pilaf in Element are much tastier.And one Ragu mode is worth something. In Orson you can't really get anything fried, only stew, and in Element you can cook whole chicken - it will be delicious and beautiful. Anna exhibited a recipe with a photo. And you need to pour a little less water into the Element, then there will be no such noisy steam release, everything comes with experience. Once you get ready and you will understand everything. And many people do not cook under the cupboards, they cook under the hood, and if there is none, then just on the dining table. Prepared and rearranged. And the prepared dishes differ in taste, in the Element everything is more intense. The same potatoes with meat are all soaked in gravy, and not potatoes separately, meat separately, albeit in one bowl. Here on the forum, all these MVs are like a fool of candy wrappers, but until you try to cook in the Element, you will not understand the difference. Yes, there are many different MVs, maybe even the functions are similar, but the modes are different, the bowls are different, the temperatures and the outlet is a different dish to taste. It's like comparing cars - economy and luxury class, like they both drive, but the question is convenience and HOW they drive.
Belka13
Marpl, Marina, I can't stop thanking for the message about discounts
Fotina
First of all, it was influenced by the fact that the majority of owners bought it at dumping prices, comparable to the cost of ordinary multicooker in the middle price category. From 2700 rubles, flashed in the top.
And some front row owners who spent 15-20 thousand on the unit were unhappy with it and did not recommend it for purchase.
Now the prices for the Element are not the lowest, and they also make you think)
I do not dispute the advantages of induction multicooker, I have doubts (based on what I have read) what exactly the Element will meet expectations.
velli
Marpl, Marinochka, thank you for your sensible advice and personal opinion. : rose: Girls, where are the discounts for her, in which stores?
Belka13
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And some front row owners who spent 15-20 thousand on the unit were unhappy with it and did not recommend it for purchase.
Fotina, Svetlana, so the first owners just encountered old covers, because of which there were such problems. Mostly fixed copies now.
Fotina
Quote: velli


Fotina, Svetlana did not quite understand you: do you take her or not?
I do not know. I ordered it without prepayment, delivery on July 2. Basically, I can do a feint with my ears, and refuse the courier on Monday morning.
I think)
I read the topic carefully. By Monday I will master 200 pages.
Wildebeest
As Elik prepares meat, I forgive him all those hisses and noisy emissions. The release of steam always and everywhere occurs with a noise with different decibels.
The soups are rich, I confirm that the meat turns out to be soft without a hint of similarity to stew.
I cook on the dining table, and when finished I remove it from sight.
I like Elik very much.
Marpl
Valentina, there are fewer offers on MV, but the lowest prices for the player and the securitimag are 5220 rubles (white). Or in the top shop for 6990, but with a kettle.
Jouravl
Quote: Fotina


And some front row owners who spent 15-20 thousand on the unit were unhappy with it and did not recommend it for purchase.
I am one of the very first owners of the Element, and I did not say a single bad word about it, they are among the first on the induction market and many did not have enough experience and patience to figure it out. I changed the cover and it still works, its release is 2012.
You need to get used to it, however, as to any technique.
Yes, and the price was high then, but it worked out its price for a long time, and if there is an opportunity to buy at a low price, then this is already a gift
I have Bork 700 and Element, they are all old and still work, I like the Element better. Therefore, I bought a second
velli
Marinochka Which one to take white or black was not decided. I wanted to take the white one because of the fixed metal plate, but the black one was more on my soul and my son advises the black one.Ritochka you bought in the player. ru in my opinion. What kind of obi did you buy?
Marpl
Fotina, Svetlana about prices. We initially took these MB at an average price of about 5.5 tons. r., for 5.2 as it is now, there were no such prices. For 2700, only 1-2 girls received from a huge number of those who ordered.In the second wave of the scam of a well-known store, more girls received MV, but for 3400 rubles. But even here, not everyone got at this price, thanks to the weird store policy. So there were no dumping prices at all, and these prices will soon be over, judging by the offers from the stores. So this is the normal price for such a CF.




Valentina, by and large, the color of the dishes should not play a role for my son. The main thing is how this dish cooks. I took 2 pieces. white so that you don't think about the ring later. On the forum, several girls were sent black ones with an old ring. Yes, and white in the kitchen does not look bulky, but like a beautiful white egg.
Belka13
I bought the first one for 4000 (I used Thanks on Ozone bonuses), the second one for 5850. If the price with delivery was about 5.5 thousand, I would buy the third without hesitation. In reserve.
Marpl
I wrote about prices without any bonuses, but about prices in stores. I also bought the first MB on Ozone taking into account points and bonuses.
Olya, then you have to wait for the third wave from the top shop, so that everyone will buy the third.
Rituslya
Valyush, I took both white ones in the Player. Everything suits me in this store: the speed of delivery, and prices, and adequate normal couriers. I am not satisfied with the imposition of additional services by this store itself. But even this can be experienced.
Fotina
5300 is the Moscow price by self-delivery) to regions cheaper than 7 with delivery does not work. Price matters to me.)
For the full price up to 5.5, I would take it without thinking (I'm used to the fact that on Ozone and WB delivery is free to me, and never included it in the price), and for 2700-3400 I would buy two - home and to the country). Because my multicooker was more expensive, and shteba, and Panasonic, and Redmond. And they are intuitive, without dancing with tambourines, you don't have to get used to them.

She also refused from the polaris of a small one, because the time is set there inconveniently.)) I am used to a clean cooking time, and how much pressure it will gain and release is not important.

And yet, where to look, right or wrong ring?
thet
Hello everyone ! I follow the topic. Perhaps I will order as induction and at a very affordable price. My 3-liter BORK is very similar both externally and judging by the reviews and functionality. So this is what I want to say about steam - I personally use almost only a multi-cooker - I set temperatures no higher than 100 degrees - 91-95 mostly. And then nothing hovers anywhere. Milk porridge and everything else work very well. Nothing comes out of nowhere. If you need to fry or bake something on the frying or oven program. Again, if the product is wet, it starts to steam mercilessly and then I switch to a multi-cook. I also hate when it soars. But after the induction multicooker I no longer look in the direction of others. For broths and cereals, I like the usual 5 liter polaris pressure cooker. So who doubts I advise you to take and take it again !!! Moreover, the price is very attractive. Maybe someone will use my experience.
velli
Rituslya, Rita thank you HUGE for the quick answer! I wanted black in general, but I'll have to take white, eliminating all the nuances later! When I called them to find out about the release date, the man answered me that 2016. I didn’t believe him, he’s lying. Someone wrote that such a lid fits from the Ourson pressure cooker, as a last resort, I will remove it from it.
kil
I do not understand people who hayut a multicooker even without cooking on induction and comparing with some kind of Orson. It's like comparing Constipation with a gelding (Zaporozhets with a Mercedes) and she lets out steam loudly, but this is not the same steam that you get when you open a saucepan on the stove, it is not wet and there are no drops from it. I have had Bork for 5 years (KARL for 5 years), and now the Element is in the same place, just under the closet and nothing happened to the furniture during this time, no delamination and defects, although the furniture in my dacha is not an array, but enough cheap. And in general, you do not want to take it, here, as they say, "master - master".
Multicooker Element FWA 01 PB El
Rituslya
Valyush, but hardly 2016. There, the operators themselves do not know anything. We all seem to have a label on our pope about the manufacture of 5013, where 50 is the fiftieth week, and 13 is 13 years old. ...
kil
Quote: velli
Someone wrote that such a lid fits from the Ourson pressure cooker, as a last resort, I will remove it from it.
I don't know about Ourson, but everything fits from Bork, and a lid and a saucepan and everything else. As a result, I have 3 bowls, and I hid Bork for now, let him rest.
al2
Valentina, I have a black cartoon at home, in black it suits me more in design, and I also like the sparkling space egg more. In black multicooker all buttons are additionally highlighted, in white ones this is not. There was no problem with the ring, I just checked it upon receipt.
She took White to the dacha and was also happy.
There are also many multivararoks, like everyone else here, but the item in the price range of 5-6 thousand is the best. It stands under the furniture, I slightly unfold it when cooking and there are no problems. The staff hovers much more during forced bleeding.
Guzel62
I also have it under the shelf! I do not push or turn anything! Of course, I didn't have it for so long, but nothing has peeled off or spoiled anywhere! I cook in it every day!
At first I was also surprised by these emissions of steam (I wrote about it here in Temka!), But then I got used to it and I don't even notice! I am very happy with the purchase and very grateful to the girls (Bule, Nadya Zhuravel, Marusa ...) who encouraged me to make this purchase! And of course TopShop! If it hadn't been for his scams, I wouldn't have bought it! 🤣
Elik is very smart! And for me (zapoloshnoy and shaitan women) - this is one of the most important qualifications in technology!
Linabro
Can you please tell me if the element fwa 02 multicooker was discussed somewhere? Maybe someone knows how it differs from 01 in practice?
Marpl
Someone bought on the forum and asked a question - why there is no voice guide. It seems that it is not induction, but tena, the power is less, the bowl is lighter. At 01 the steam basket is 2-level, like in Cook, Orson, and at 02 there is an ordinary grate with legs. For the same money, 01 wins.
Song
Quote: Fotina
And yet, where to look, right or wrong ring?
Marpl
Anya look here, it is glossy black, and in the fixed ones this ring is matte gray.

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Fotina
That is, there are already three rings? First, there was a black gloss, replaced with matte gray, and then - with a metallic one?
Marpl
This matte gray is new.
Fotina
OK, thanks.
Song
Quote: Marpl

Anya look here, it is glossy black, and in the fixed ones this ring is matte gray.

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