Natashok
I agree about the milk porridge. Really languid turns out. And with the rest, it is necessary to find the ratio of cereal-water that is right for our multicooker-pressure cooker. And about the TTT ring. But she also tensed. I bought in Cheaper Only Free. There is no point in calling. Anyway, they will not answer competently on the phone. I want to go with the management to talk, to look in the eyes, maybe to think or suggest about rings for our city. There must be some way out. How did they create such a seemingly perfect apparatus, and because of this trifle, there are such problems all over the country!? ...
Nymph
For pilaf, try the 1: 1 ratio - since during the cooking process, meat and vegetables are also allowed to add extra juice - I personally have always had enough water. About the sticky mass on pilaf - you opened America to me straight - I have never had such a thing.
And look a few pages above - you can even adapt to the "pilaf" mode.
Maybe all our MVs work a little differently - that's the result is different - because there is always little time on my milk porridge and I keep it on heating for another 15-20 minutes
on soft cereals - I cook rice porridge for the child in water - this is not porridge in our usual sense - but the taste is about the same if the rice is baked in the oven in a pot with butter - I really like it
on balanced grits - rice for rolls - the most it
on crumbly grits - for a side dish, rice well, or if I didn't use pilaf with the program - always rice to rice
They promised to send me the ring only on February 4 - not earlier

And about the Element as such - it's just a pressure cooker - a good induction pressure cooker - each model is individual - it is clear that you have to poke around - I don't see anything like that in this - this is normal.
I have SV Scarlet in my bins, and if we compare it with the Element, it’s the same as comparing a toilet bowl with an airplane

The problem is not in the device - but in the absence of service - the sellers here I don't know which side it is - but the official representative of the manufacturer had to conclude real contracts with the SC - and not slip us a letter in the form of a guarantor, where SCs are indicated, which even do not suspect the existence SV
ygoda52
Quote: Nymph

on crumbly grits - for a side dish, rice well, or if I didn't use pilaf with the program - always rice to rice
What kind of rice you use.
Nymph
I buy unboiled regular long grain rice. Now I won't tell you the brand - I don't remember - after the purchase I immediately pour it into a storage container - but I didn't bathe with the manufacturer - I bought the one that was on the shelf in the store
ygoda52
I cooked a solid mass of Krasnodar polished in all modes.
Do you rinse the rice after cooking?
Nymph
No - I do not wash it - I put it on the plates right away
I cooked Krasnodar round for rolls, I also cooked Mistral Yaponiku (the same, probably) - the rice is sticky, but rice to rice - no porridge - otherwise the rolls would not work - you can't rinse the nikk there
but the proportion is always 1: 1, well, the maximum is 1: 1.2 - no more
Natashok
Nymph! What's most interesting. When I cooked pilaf for the last time, I followed the recommendations on how to cheat a multicooker. But I read a lot of all sorts of recipes, on all sorts of forums, I fagot 1: 2, although I cook 2: 3 on the stove for 20 years on a stove of soup. So I got a sticky result. But nothing all this !!! Although not presentable, but edible. !!! Some dishes turn out to be much tastier, some as I cooked before: in the oven, on the stove, and I will continue to cook. It's all a matter of taste! But I am still not disappointed with the purchase. On the contrary, I pray to God that this cup (ring breakage) passed me as long as possible ...
ygoda52
Quote: Nymph

but the proportion is always 1: 1, well, the maximum is 1: 1.2 - no more
Then perhaps because of the proportion, I cooked somewhere 1: 4.
Nymph
In other MVs, I also cook in a 1: 2 ratio, and even 1: 2.5
but this one needs much less water - try
about a breakdown - find out if there is a SC in your city - it will not be worse
about the stove and dtskhovka - apart from MV and SV - I have a bunch of everything - AF, AG, a waffle maker, a contact grill VVK and a sandwich maker 3 in 1 are coming to me - just full and faster than a stove and an oven
Vatru6ko
Hello everyone! I've been using a multicooker for about a month now, so it's time to join your ranks. I am not overjoyed with my assistant, she helps me out! thank God everything is in order with the ring! how will I learn to upload photos - I will share recipes.
Nymph
Vatru6ko Welcome!
Our ranks are growing. And this is very encouraging. We will wait for new recipes.
I really hope that my CF will soon be "cured" and I will be able to cook in my favorite again.
Natashok
Hello beginners! The more of us, the more exchange of experience. After I got a pressure cooker, any information was needed like air. But it was negligible. Thanks Margarita! Your valuable advice, advice and personal experience helped me a lot. What I can’t say about the owners of the Cuckoos and Oursons. Until now, reading them, I do not understand the meaning of multicooker. There they put food in turn. The time is set as if it were on the stove ... She started experimenting with her own pressure cooker and her diet. All those dishes that were previously cooked on the stove are now cooked a little differently. I throw everything at the same time. The time is much shorter. I also set different modes for comparison. I draw conclusions for myself. It turns out really much tastier! Our family doesn't really like potatoes. But there it turns out so stewed !!! Pilaf turned out once, the second one screwed up with water. And I haven't gotten into the porridge yet. I want it to be like a stove, but not yet.
Vladislav31
Hello everybody! I post my work ... On our MV-SV

I tried my meat grinder for making sausages ...

Pork + Beef + some Lard + onion ---> belly.

Sausages "Home"

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Result

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A little oil, frying for 10 minutes, braising for 30 minutes.

Pork baked with potatoes and mushrooms.

Pork - 800 gr. ~ 5-6 potatoes.

They opened the lid.

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laid out on a plate.

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Frying for 20 minutes (turned over for 10 minutes on the side), added onions and mushrooms for another 10 minutes, frying, a glass of water on top of potatoes - stewing for 40 minutes.
Natashok
I found out how things are with service repairs in our city. At the address indicated in the warranty card, no one knows about the existence of such a multicooker. That is, there is no authorization. But on the other hand, in the DtD store itself, I was told that the manufacturer must exchange his marriage through their store, during the warranty period. The next one will break, so the next one will be replaced. But that's just what they said! As a matter of fact, the question is open. The only thing that was offered in the service was to bring something, maybe from some other multicooker something will fit ...
Nymph
Natashok, thanks for the kind words, I'm glad if I could help at least with something.
Regarding the guarantee - I have the same situation, the manufacturer makes an exchange through the store. In theory, they should send the cover just the other day.

Vladislav31 everything is so delicious
I myself have already stocked up with guts, I will also try to repair it
Natashok
Nymph, and more specifically, what exactly does the manufacturer send: a ring, an entire cover, or will it completely exchange the entire device ??? We are waiting for news from the battlefield)))))
Nymph
They should send an internal removable plate - and the unit itself with a lid as such will remain in my house. How to get it, I will definitely write a picture and post it
Natashok
I downloaded the book "Recipes for a multicooker" by Anton Matveychuk. Collected all sorts of recipes from all forums on 600 pages. A turkey, for example, is stewed on the Stew mode for 2.5 hours. 30-40 minutes in the Element is enough for me. And so all the recipes. The fig then needs a slow cooker ???
Nymph
Quote: Natashok

I downloaded the book "Recipes for a multicooker" by Anton Matveychuk.Collected all sorts of recipes from all forums on 600 pages. A turkey, for example, is stewed on the Stew mode for 2.5 hours. 30-40 minutes in the Element is enough for me. And so all the recipes. The fig then needs a slow cooker ???

- when Element was in service, I used cartoons only for baking, but when Element was busy, I mostly cooked only in it.
They gave my plate to the delivery service - I should arrive soon - I can't wait anymore
Natashok
And then how? Is the ring taken from the delivery service and installed at home yourself? Or are there other options?
Nymph
Nah, the ring is riveted to the inner removable plate - we remove it ourselves by constantly pressing the button to wash it.
All this removable metal plate with a rim in the form of an ill-fated ring will arrive. TK will bring, call me and we will go and pick him up.
Natashok
All. Now I understand! I thought it was the ring on the lid itself ... I looked more closely at the ring on the removable lid. It's on the rivets, you can't turn it out yourself. (((Since they fail so quickly, maybe they should immediately buy a pack))))
Nymph
Under the guarantee, they are obliged to replace it free of charge, regardless of the number of breakdowns - only you don't want the ring to fail again. If this happens, then it will mean only one thing, that this ring design is not structurally calculated correctly and cannot be used on this model of the device.
And this is not good at all.
So I honestly don't think bad
Natashok
Margarita! A small request ... Be so kind as to find out who the direct supplier is, so that you can think of bringing our periphery ..
Natashok
I don’t think bad either. I don't want to lose this charm at all. I'm already very used to it, I even managed to fall in love. I cook something once a day. Very some dishes are original, especially meat ones. The main thing is fast!
Nymph
It seems that they already wrote somewhere that the supplier is Stadler Forms. And also in the warranty card there is a Moscow number - it is indicated separately, it is written there, something like - if you want to know more .... well, or something like that - these are the representatives of the supplier in the Russian Federation.
Vladislav31
Quote: Nymph

Under the guarantee, they are obliged to replace it free of charge, regardless of the number of breakdowns - only you don't want the ring to fail again. If this happens, it will mean only one thing, that this ring design is not structurally calculated correctly and cannot be used on this model of the device.
And this is not good at all.
So I honestly don't think bad

They refused to change me under warranty and not only me. I called the number from the warranty card. The answer is one
- "This is a mechanical failure and is not covered by the warranty, please contact the store."
The store also does not want to know anything, glued the fallen off piece with super glue while it seems to be holding, now I handle this lid very carefully.

I follow this topic and not only here, but so far no one has had any positive results.

It pleases that someone managed to replace the cover.
Nymph
There are positive results, exchanged the plate ygoda52, on mu * ke. ru girls right in the service immediately changed, in the next branch about bork - in general, they write that they handed it back - well, this is natural from the words - I was not personally present.
Mine is coming to me - well, the managers wrote to me - I don't have a TTN number. I really hope that everything will be fine
ygoda52
Nymph
How are you doing with the removable lid?
Nymph
My lid arrived, put it on, it works.
It looks the same, but the previous cover, which was broken, was inserted according to sensations differently - that is, the procedure is the same, but somehow it was inserted in its place differently. And this one - once and everything stands still.
Maybe I'm just paying too much attention to this moment, of course
MV was idle for more than a month and when it turned on for the first time there was an unpleasant incident - apparently the valve was jammed - steam went through the sides from under the lid, I did not immediately realize what was the matter, just surprised that MV did not whistle, then it did steam cleaning - everything went right
I really hope that this is a one-time marriage.
In this MV, everything works out best for me - if it works, I only cook in it - I puzzled my husband with the search for an office that would take up the calculation of the metal rim - after all, you still need to calculate so as to damage the lid itself - you never know ...
ygoda52
We are very happy for you, at last the theme will begin to live a full life.
And this bezel is needed only to hold the sealing cuff (silicone rubber band), but you can experiment because you now have two covers.
Nymph
Well, why am I practically burning here alone ???
mine require rather monotonous food, they recognize almost nothing new, if you share your recipes, the topic will be much more interesting
Vladislav31
Metal bezel is the theme! I thought about it too. It is not so difficult to do on a milling machine and the cover will be eternal. A drawing is needed.
I used to work at the plant, it would not be a problem to do it. Now it is difficult for me to do this.

About the recipes that I did posted. I'll post something else. And so everything is ordinary, we cook porridge
Natashok
Quote: Nymph

My lid arrived, put it on, it works.
Urrrra, it worked! I cook in it every day. But these are not some delicious dishes, but the whole assortment that has developed traditionally in our family. It is important for me on what modes, what time to set and the proportions too. And I still haven't learned how to upload photos!
Jouravl
Hello everyone! I apologize for the silence, there were many problems. But gradually everything will return to normal and I'm with you again. I read the forum, there are problems with the lids, so far everything is fine with me. mmm. I cook in a slow cooker often. I made pilaf taking into account Margarita's prompts and frying with the lid open - and even heard the words from the multi-tasty pilaf will be ready And I mainly cook simple food and food for the dog.
Nymph
Hope! How glad I am to see you again. Let the problems stomp by.
I've also gotten used to cooking in Element for a dog - just a song - even if you eat it yourself.
If I'm going to cook the first one the other day, I'll draw it up with a separate recipe - suddenly someone will come in handy
Natashok
I got the booked out books from Ozon today. 1. "Ideal dishes from a multicooker" 2. "Fast dishes from a pressure cooker" Author Mikhailova IA There are a bunch of recipes on 300 pages. The quantity of ingredients is detailed. But .... In the first, about multicooker, the modes are not suitable for us, (everything is cooked for 1.5-2 hours) Apparently it is necessary to reduce the time by 2-3 times, but about the pressure cooker, which is already there in kind of pressure cooker for the stove. And recommendations: "As soon as the valve hiss, turn down the heat and cook on low heat for so many minutes." In general, the rest is all the same by typing. And I really want to open the page, perform all the functions from A to Z, press the button and not think about anything else)))) But I have almost mastered my device. Everything turns out very tasty. Only in the Chef mode I have never tried it. If you already have experience, write ...
Nymph
I steam oatmeal for my dog ​​on a multi-cooker - but I think very few people need it
Jouravl
Margarita! I am also very glad to hear from you all. It's just that my girlfriend has been in a vegetative state for six months. She rested in Turkey ... And she only has a daughter. The husband died for 10 years. And our medicine, you know ... But I got an antidepressant - a two-month labrodeer. So hercules is what we need. And at the moment I'm cooking the broth in multi. Tomorrow I will cook pickle. If anyone is interested, I will take a picture.
Jouravl
I also downloaded a book from the Internet recipes for the multicooker by Anton Matveychuk Recipes for the multicooker. The recipes are taken from the forums. 700 pages. But I haven't studied it yet.
Vladislav31
Interesting information from the Yandex forum

- "if you type bork u800 on the market, you can see the absolute identity of the goods. Well, if the SC of the Element (I sang a song that there are a lot of them in Moscow) do not answer or they do not have these" covers "in stock, then they can be bought from BORK The difference is in the caps - the Bork ones do not have an inscription in Korean, but the element does. "
CUCHEN WHA-LX1000ID is on sale on eBay

And I have not found the covers separately for this cuckoo yet.
ygoda52
Really one to one, only the price is 2 times more expensive
Vladislav31


Cover problem SOLVED !!!!

Covers are changed under warranty !!!!!

I called and said we will change, we need a photo of the nameplate from the manager. number on the MB, warranty card, store purchase receipt, well, the lid itself, or what is left of it. (the old cover will be taken away)

Service center

Moscow, st. Krasin, 9, building 2, under. 5a entrance from the back of the house (inconspicuous door to the basement).

Phone +7 (495) 380-39-81

Working hours Monday-Friday 09: 00-19: 00

Metro Mayakovskaya. exit to Bolshaya-Sadovaya. Then walk 600 meters.

We changed it to a new one today. Plastic is another possibly stronger and structurally wider rim and rivets are located farther from the edge.

I wanted to buy more just in case, they said that they only had a guarantee. They gave the phone DIA-Service, it seems like they have covers for money and they sell app. parts 8 (925) 088-00-50

Apparently, the process went with the replacement of the covers, which is good news.
ygoda52
Dear colleagues, the plastic ring on the removable cover cracked again in two places at the very bottom.
On Monday I will contact the SC again.
Vladislav31
Quote: ygoda52

Dear colleagues, the plastic ring on the removable cover cracked again in two places at the very bottom.
On Monday I will contact the SC again.

Have you already changed the lid to a new one, or is it cracked on the complete lid?
I also cracked on the old lid at the very bottom like yours.
The new one looks stronger and the plastic is different.
Vei
Quote: Nymph

in the next branch about bork - in general, they write that they handed it back - well, this is natural from the words - I was not personally present.

Margarita,
and it is possible in more detail in which branch, what and why was changed there? I don't see something
ygoda52
Quote: Vladislav31

Have you already changed the lid to a new one, or is it cracked on the complete lid?
I also cracked on the old lid at the very bottom like yours.
The new one looks stronger and the plastic is different.
Cracked already at the replaced one.
Vladislav31
Quote: ygoda52

Cracked already at the replaced one.

This is bad! And the plastic of the ring on the replaced one was glossy black like the complete one or with a gray tint?

It's just that my changed plastic gives off to the gray side and the remnants of the mold (attachment points) are visible.
Vladislav31
Quote: ygoda52

Black glossy.

Then it is understandable why she cracked again.

The new "modified" looks like I described above. So now there are old and modified covers (with the removed defects).
Plastic with a grayish tint, a wider plastic ring, rivets farther from the edge of the lid, at the bottom of the rivet closer to the ledge that is inserted into the MV.

at the bottom of the rivet, closer to the ledge, which is inserted into the MB and plastic with a grayish tint, a couple more holes are made near the rivets

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wider plastic ring and rivets are located further from the edge of the cover

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Moreover, since Bork and our MV are twin brothers, the recipes are also apparently similar (there are many recipes on the Bork website)

ygoda52
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