sd255
Quote: igorechek

The native will probably have a problem to buy.
Measure the resistance of the heater and calculate: Power = 48400 / resistance. And on the market, pick up something close at par.
I found my relatives at their company repairman, the pair cost 40 UAH.
In general, I found it on ebuy, but I don't need that much.
Mona1
I thought for a long time which of the yoghurt Temoks to link to, but I could not find a suitable Temko. I am now reading a book by Lyudmla Rudnitskaya "Joint gymnastics". There, among other things, a very interesting section on nutrition, in particular, about various fermented milk products, and how some of them can be made at home.
I'll try to paste all the text into the spoilers.
Here's about the usefulness of different sour milk:


Natural fermented milk drinks are prepared from milk by fermenting various types of lactic acid bacteria. Residents of Greece and Rome, India and the Middle East, Transcaucasia, in ancient times, used fermented milk products, which were prepared from cow, sheep or donkey milk. The Scythians knew kumis - a fermented milk drink made from mare's milk. Sour milk was mentioned by Homer in the Odyssey: the heroes found buckets and mugs full of thick sour milk in the cave of the Cyclops Polyphemus.
Why did people love fermented milk products for so long? First, for purely practical reasons: sour milk is stored longer than regular milk. Secondly, it has a beneficial effect on the body. Gradually, different peoples appeared national fermented milk drinks: yogurt and varenets - in Russia, fermented baked milk - in Ukraine, matsun - in Armenia, yogurt - in Georgia, chal - in Turkmenistan, kurunga - in North-East Asia, ayran and kefir - in the North Caucasus, kumis - in Bashkiria and Tatarstan, leben - in Egypt, yagurt - in Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey and Romania, burial milk - in Norway.
How do these products differ from each other?
• Sour milk. This is a fermented milk drink made from pasteurized milk by fermenting it with a ferment prepared on pure cultures of lactic acid bacteria. Depending on the type of bacteria, they distinguish between common yogurt, Mechnikovsky, southern, Ukrainian (fermented baked milk), acidophilic and Varenets.
Ordinary yogurt is prepared on pure cultures of lactic acid streptococci; it has a delicate curd with a refreshing, pleasant, slightly acidic taste.
Mechnikovskaya yogurt is prepared from pure cultures of the Bulgarian bacillus and lactic acid streptococci; it differs from the usual one in a denser clot and sour taste.
Southern yogurt is made from milk, lactic acid streptococci, sticks and yeast. It has the consistency of sour cream; its taste is sour, tingling, refreshing.
Varenets is made from sterilized milk kept at high temperature for 2-3 hours (stewed milk). It has a dense, slightly viscous consistency, sour taste with a sweetish aftertaste of stewed milk, creamy color. Varenets is cooked on the same crops as Mechnikov's curdled milk.
Fermented baked milk is prepared from pure cultures of lactic acid streptococcus. It is creamy in color, resembles sour cream in taste and consistency, but has a peculiar sweetish taste. The calorie content of fermented baked milk is much higher than the calorie content of other varieties of yogurt, its fat content is about 6%.
• Matsoni (matsun, katyk). These are different names for the same type of product, which is made from cow, buffalo, sheep, camel or goat milk.The main active microflora is Bulgarian bacillus and thermophilic lactic acid streptococci. Milk is fermented at elevated temperatures and fermented in a heat-retaining device.
• Dzhugurt. Favorite drink in the North Caucasus. This is squeezed sour milk that looks like sour cream or pasta. Fat content - 12-13%, water content - no more than 70%.
• Kurunga. Fermented milk drink, widespread in North-East Asia among the Buryats, Mongols, Tuvans. The method of cooking kurunga has been known since ancient times. For the Mongols and Tuvans, who led a nomadic lifestyle, in the summer kurunga was one of the most important products. Since the 18th century, other peoples (Buryats, Khakases) also learned the secret of cooking kurunga. Kurunga is prepared through double fermentation - lactic acid and alcohol. The alcohol content usually does not exceed 1%.
• Ayran. A very common drink among the peoples of Central Asia, the Caucasus, Tataria, Bashkiria. It is prepared from cow, goat, sheep milk. Some peoples of our country call this a soft drink, which is a mixture of sour milk and water. The Uzbek recipe, for example, provides for the dilution of yogurt with cold water in a 1: 1 ratio, after which the drink is poured into glasses with ice.
Fermented milk products are divided into two groups: the first includes products obtained as a result of lactic acid fermentation only, the second - products obtained as a result of lactic acid and alcoholic fermentation.
The first group includes yogurt, fermented baked milk, acidophilic milk. Their distinctive characteristics are fermented milk taste, density, uniformity, absence of gas bubbles.
The second group includes kefir, koumiss, acidophilus-yeast milk. In addition to lactic acid bacteria, they contain a small amount of alcohol and carbon dioxide, because of this, drinks have a sharper taste, and the clot is permeated with small gas bubbles.
Recent research by scientists has shown that lactic acid sticks, as well as yeast, are antibiotics that affect intestinal, paratyphoid, typhoid, dysentery and tuberculosis bacilli, as well as putrefactive microorganisms. In fermented milk products (these include, in addition to drinks, cheeses, sour cream, whey), many of the nutrients contained in milk become even more useful. For example, thanks to proteolytic enzymes secreted by the milk microflora, proteins are better absorbed. Mineral substances are also better absorbed, and components are formed from the carbohydrate (lactose) that enhance the dietary properties of these products.
The content of lactic acid and lactic acid bacteria in fermented milk drinks gave basis to I.I.Mechnikov to create a scientific theory that asserts the expediency of using these drinks. Dealing with the problem of longevity, the scientist came to the conviction that premature old age can and should be fought. He drew attention to the fact that many residents of Bulgaria and the Caucasus live for a very long time. This longevity, Mechnikov believed, is 70% dependent on the use of fermented milk products.

Fermented milk drinks have a number of useful properties:
• stimulate appetite;
• quench thirst;
• increase the secretion of gastric juice;
• enhance the peristalsis of the gastrointestinal tract;
• improve kidney function;
• are antibiotics.


Some recipes:


We prepare fermented milk drinks ourselves
To prepare these healthy drinks, you need to adhere to two basic rules:
• maintain cleanliness;
• milk intended for the preparation of fermented milk drinks must be boiled, then it should be quickly cooled.

Sweet curdled milk
It is made from milk with sugar dissolved in it. Usually, no more than 5% sugar is added in relation to the total weight of the fermented milk. For 900 g of milk, take 50 g of granulated sugar and 50 g of sourdough on pure cultures of lactic acid bacteria.It is better to add sugar before pasteurization of milk in the form of syrup, dissolving it in hot milk.

Sweet curdled milk with vanilla
To obtain a fragrant curdled milk, vanillin can be added to the fermented milk. Vanillin is taken at the tip of a knife, mixed with a small amount of granulated sugar, ground the mixture and added to milk just before fermentation.

Sweet curdled milk with cinnamon
The cinnamon is ground into powder and sieved. For 1 liter of milk, take 1.5 g of cinnamon. Stir the fermented milk thoroughly before pouring so that the cinnamon does not settle to the bottom and is evenly distributed in the finished drink. When making sweet curdled milk with cinnamon, 6% sugar is added.

Sweet curdled milk with honey
Honey can be added to fermented milk or sour milk before eating. 7% natural honey is added, thoroughly mixed with milk, the mixture is pasteurized, cooled and fermented.

Ryazhenka
Prepared from a mixture of milk and cream. The mixture is subjected to heat treatment (simmering) at 95 ° C for 3 hours. Milk is usually fermented only with pure cultures of lactic acid streptococci of thermophilic species. Usually take 50-100 g of sourdough per 1 liter of milk.

Fermented milk fizzy drink (analogue of koumiss)
To bring skimmed cow's milk closer in composition to mare's, add 20% whey and 2.5% sugar. This mixture is pasteurized by heating to 90 ° C, then cooled to 30–33 ° C and fermented with a special starter culture consisting of lactic acid sticks and yeast. Sourdough is added to milk (10-15% sourdough in relation to the weight of milk) and vigorously stirred for 15 minutes to saturate the drink with air, and then left to ferment. After fermentation, the curd is stirred for 15 minutes. The drink is poured into narrow-necked bottles, closed with a cork and left for 3-4 hours at a temperature of 16-18 ° C to accumulate carbon dioxide and alcohol. The bottles are then placed in the refrigerator.

Yogurt and curdled milk drink
Mix yoghurt, yogurt and buttermilk with a whisk, salt and cool. Served in tall glasses. Yogurt and curdled milk - 1.5 cups each, buttermilk - 1 cup, salt - to taste.

Alpine yogurt drink
Unsweetened low-fat yogurt is whisked, gradually adding chilled broth. Mix with chopped herbs, salt to taste. Poured into glasses and sprinkle with finely chopped nuts. The drink can also be served instead of soup. Yogurt - 2 cups, beef broth - 1 cup, walnuts - 50 g, chopped parsley - 2 tablespoons, bouillon cube, salt to taste.
I will list the beneficial properties inherent in the drinks mentioned in this section.
• Destruction of harmful bacteria. Lactic acid bacteria, especially acidophilus bacillus, can persist for a long time in the intestine. As a result, acidity increases, and this inhibits putrefactive bacteria, causing their death.
• Improving metabolism. Lactic acid and alcohol, which is contained in kefir and koumiss, are responsible for this. Once in the body, these substances stimulate the production of gastric juice, increase appetite, and help move food through the intestines. All this has a beneficial effect on the general metabolism.
• Enrichment of the body with vitamins. Some lactic acid bacteria are able to synthesize vitamin C and B vitamins. Scientists have identified several types of bacteria that can provide a daily requirement for vitamin B. According to their calculations, you need to drink 1 liter of a product prepared on the basis of such bacteria.
• Neutralization of radiation exposure. Acidophilus bacillus produces special antibiotic substances that are indispensable in the treatment of the effects of radiation.
If you are too lazy to prepare a natural fermented milk drink, but prefer to buy groceries in the store, keep in mind the following: if the kefir or yogurt you want to buy is stored at temperatures from 0-2 ° C to 6 ° C, then the product is fermented.If the maximum storage temperature is 20–25 ° C, then the product is thermally processed, that is, it does not contain live lactobacilli.


and about cottage cheese


Curd is a curdled milk protein separated from whey. This protein is the most delicate and easily digestible. Nine tablespoons of cottage cheese fully satisfy the daily protein requirement of an adult. Even if the cottage cheese is fat-free, it still contains a lot of calcium, which makes it indispensable in the diet.
Curd is an essential component of a complete and healthy diet. It is rich in calcium and phosphorus, without which the complete formation of the skeletal system is impossible. These substances are needed for children, pregnant women, are necessary for fractures, diseases of the hematopoietic organs, rickets, hypertension, heart disease, kidney disease and many other diseases.
The beneficial properties of cottage cheese are due to its composition. The milk protein casein contained in cottage cheese has a high nutritional value and can replace animal proteins (300 g of cottage cheese is the daily dose of protein required for the body). Mineral substances that make up the curd contribute to the formation and strengthening of bone tissue.
The amino acids contained in the curd help prevent liver diseases, the B vitamins protect against atherosclerosis.
The proteins that make up the curd contain essential amino acids (methionine and choline) and can serve as a substitute for other proteins of animal origin for those who are contraindicated in animal proteins. Cottage cheese is not only rich in essential vitamins, but is also easily absorbed by the body, therefore this product is useful for children and the elderly.

Thanks to its beneficial properties, cottage cheese:
• promotes the formation of hemoglobin in the blood;
• normalizes the work of the nervous system;
• accelerates metabolism;
• improves the regenerative capacity of the nervous system;
• strengthens bone and cartilage tissue.

Cottage cheese must be consumed:
• for the prevention of atherosclerosis (the product contains choline and methionine);
• for the formation of bone tissue (due to the high content of calcium and phosphorus salts);
• for the prevention of heart and kidney diseases;
• to maintain proper metabolism and prevent obesity;
• to prevent anemia, since the minerals in the cottage cheese are involved in the production of hemoglobin.
We cook cottage cheese ourselves

Homemade cottage cheese
To get 100 g of cottage cheese, you need 600 dal of milk, 6 dl of 20% calcium chloride. Add calcium chloride solution to cold pasteurized or boiled milk, stir and bring to a boil. Then immediately remove from heat and cool to room temperature. Throw the resulting unleavened cottage cheese on a sieve, cover with gauze, squeeze and transfer to a jar.

Cottage cheese "tender"

Boil a glass of milk and pour into a glass of sour milk, stir and leave for 30 minutes.

Kefir cottage cheese
Pour a glass of kefir into a container, filling it halfway and put in the microwave for 1-2 minutes. The curd separates and floats on top with the whey underneath. Separate the curd and let cool.

Curd from curdled milk
Put the sour milk on fire and heat to 70–80 ° C. Do not bring to a boil, otherwise the curd will be "rubbery". As soon as the curd separates, remove from heat and place on a sieve (or cheesecloth). Let the whey drain.


The only thing is that the author indicated the unit of measurement in the first cottage cheese recipe Gave I looked for what it is Gave such. It turned out that this is the name of the unit of measurement Decaliter. But 1 Decaliter (1 Dal) = 10 liters. So there is probably a typo in the recipe.
Tashenka
Girls, poke your nose into the description of the preparation of sour cream with sourdough. And yet, maybe someone made kvass (interested in beetroot) using the VIVO "Kvass" sourdough. Thank you!
Aygul
Tashenka,
Natalya, we make sour cream, like yogurt, only with cream or cream + milk. If possible, lower the fermentation temperature.In general, usually on each leaven (sachet, box) it is written how to cook. What sourdough do you have? Vivo?
My girlfriend made beet kvass Vivo, she said that it turned out unusual, but tasty and healthy, everyone drank until she put it in the refrigerator (for the night), and the leftovers remained there for several days. Because when it's on the table, the husband, the children went in, poured, drank, and if the kvass is in the refrigerator, they saw something different and drank it different
Tashenka
Aygul, I am interested in the proportions of milk and cream. And at what temperature to do. "Sour cream" I have Genesis.
And can you ask a friend how many beets are in a 3 liter jar and how to put it there: grate or cut? The sourdough says WHAT can be used, but the proportions are not indicated. And I really need to make this kvass, because it is without yeast. I will be very grateful.
Aygul
I also do with pure cream. Delicious Result!
I use the mixture when I need a lot: for food and for a cake, for example. If initially the cream is good, then the consistency is like good store sour cream
The proportions are as follows: cream 0.5l + milk 0.5-1l

Natasha, do you have a thermostat?
Tashenka
Thank you! It's just that cream alone is a little expensive for me ...
Yes, I bought a thermostat. The truth has not yet made friends with him ...
Aygul
On working with thermostats, our main Tanya Mona1 Always helps everyone, always answers everyone.
Have you already done anything with the thermostat? Found a place to fix it?
Tashenka
Here is Tanya now and guides me on the right path with this thermostat. Only once I made yogurt with it. But still overheated. Tanya said that you need to put it on the bottom, under the cardboard. Let's finish this yogurt and experiment again.
Aygul
Experiment with water! Then, on the other hand, you can make whatever sour cream you need, and yogurt / kefir whatever you want
Tashenka
I wanted to try some water today, but ... Well, nothing! And I will win the thermostat with the help of responsive girls! Thanks to our forum!
Dzyan123
So that the yogurt does not overheat during the cooking process, instead of cardboard, I put 3-4 matches under each glass, so I do not close the bottom of the yogurt maker, which emits heat.

Can you please tell me if there are cheaper analogs of VIVO starter culture, I'm 1.5 liters of milk, every time I use a bottle, it turns out a little expensive, so I asked myself the question of finding a cheaper option.
Mona1
You can divide the bottle into two parts. Here I described
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=60319.0
You can try it in three parts, if you wish.
And cheaper - it will be a completely different sourdough, maybe not so good.
Vovan
Quote: Dzyan123
I have 1.5 liters of milk, every time I use a bottle
From the prepared product, you can ferment a new one 3 more times. One can of cooked product for 1.5 liters of milk. More than 3 times is not needed, the usefulness is lost.
Newbie
Why is yogurt still liquid, but ALREADY sour?
Vovan
Quote: Newbie

Why is yogurt still liquid, but ALREADY sour?
And from what leaven do you make? The reasons may be different - overheated, the milk is bad, little sourdough was added, etc. Describe what and how you make ...
Newbie
I cooked it several times on different yoghurts (bio-mah, agusha, activia). And only once did it turn out to be excellent (I don’t remember which sourdough anymore). I tried to ferment on the leftovers - I didn't like it at all. This time I did it on the activity for 6 hours. She took it out - liquid, sour, slightly exfoliated. Even in the refrigerator, I tried to ferment even more. And then I remembered that I forgot to boil my homemade milk. This is probably why the wrong bacteria multiplied.
Newbie
Miracles, she-she. I was preparing yogurt - I took it out to look, it seemed to stratify, the liquid floated on top. I drained the liquid, and since the yogurt was thin, I set it to languish for another hour. Got it - the same sauerkraut with water. The water was drained again. In disheveled feelings she put it in the refrigerator. I took out yogurt from the fridge! Thick, not too sour.And where did the water (whey) go? Not otherwise in the refrigerator itself ripe?
Vovan
Quote: Newbie

I cooked it several times on different yoghurts (bio-mah, agusha, activia). And only once did it turn out to be excellent (I don’t remember which sourdough anymore). I tried to ferment on the leftovers - I didn't like it at all. This time I did it on the activity for 6 hours. She took it out - liquid, sour, slightly exfoliated. Even in the refrigerator, I tried to ferment even more. And then I remembered that I forgot to boil my homemade milk. This is probably why the wrong bacteria multiplied.
Ideally, it should be done on Activia classic, if there are no starter cultures in bags. Perhaps your yogurt maker gives a high temperature, at more than +40 the bacteria die. Measure the temperature of the liquid in the cans.
Lexxxi
Good afternoon everyone!
Yesterday I bought a VIVO yogurt starter culture, but before buying a yogurt maker or a slow cooker I decided to try to ferment it with a heating pad, boiled store milk 3.2%, cooled it to about 39-38, the rest according to the instructions, mixed milk in a bottle and then added it to the total mass , poured into jars and into a blanket under a heating pad. It took about 8 hours to ferment, but as it turned out, it overheated, I did not even suspect that my heating pad was so WOO-GO !!! I understand that bacteria are killed, but nevertheless I want to understand what is with taste. The water has separated, quite a bit, and so it looks thick, homogeneous. I tried it on a warm, bland, completely without acidity, I would say there is no taste. But at least there are no "bad" moments. I'll try after cooling, but I would like to understand how it should taste? Is this the kind of classic yogurt on which you can cook all sorts of sauces for salads or add them when preparing hot dishes instead of sour cream? Or did overheating significantly affect not only live bacteria but also taste?
Can you please tell me, otherwise I'm thinking, should I go for a yogurt maker or not? By the way, is Tefal for 12 glasses a good model?
sweetka
I am making yogurt in a slow cooker. the taste of the starter really differs from the usual one from the box to the bland side. but I'm okay. (by the way, I repeatedly overheated the milk, but the remaining bacteria quickly restored the entire population :))
Scarecrow
How many yoghurts I made from dry starter cultures (and I cooked a lot of them. And once, and for years))) - they are more bland, not because this is exactly the taste they give to a dairy product. And because from dry powder, the fermentation process usually takes longer. And when tasting a product through the usual time for making yogurt, you are simply tasting an unfinished product. There is still little lactic acid. From narine, for example (dry powder), a uterine starter culture is first prepared and this is directly indicated in the instructions. It takes longer to cook than yoghurt and still has the "unfinished" -fresh taste you described. The yoghurt fermented with this masterbatch has a completely normal cooking time and a completely classic yoghurt flavor. Therefore, try re-fermenting with one jar from the batch where the powder was used the next batch. There will be the usual taste of regular yogurt.
Kara
Can you please tell me, is this uterine starter in consistency like yogurt or liquid like milk?
Tashenka
Girls, I'm with a question. She constantly made sour cream on Genesis, but decided to experiment and bought Lactina. The sour cream turned out to be dense on top, as it should be, and below, sorry, "snotty". The temperature in the jar after cooking is 35 degrees. (The packet says to maintain the temp. 32-36 or 38, I don't remember exactly). What's wrong?
Scarecrow
Quote: Kara

Can you please tell me, is this uterine starter in consistency like yogurt or liquid like milk?

Like yogurt.
Lexxxi
ScarecrowThank you, tomorrow I'll try to re-ferment, I left one glass. And today I decided to try bifivit vivo, I will try to lower the temperature a little.
sweetkaIs the temperature regime well maintained in a multicooker? Something I can't make up my mind to buy a yoghurt maker or a slow cooker ... A steamer costs itself idle, it's a pity you can't

Lexxxi
Well, yesterday bifivit fermented, like nothing, a little sour and more pleasant than yogurt. Although the yogurt on the second day also tasted slightly sour, albeit in the refrigerator. The child eats yogurt, even without any jams and berries, I generally have more sour than sweet. Well, in general, it's understandable, you need to experiment and look for a suitable leaven.

But what is one more question, in order to get drinking yoghurt, or another fermented milk product that is drinkable, is it that the sourdough should be different or ferment less, but then it will not ferment ...? I was expecting a more liquid consistency from bifivit.

One more question, if I may. I found UHT milk in the store, but it's all long-term, but I kind of read that it's better for starter with short storage. Or is there UHT with the short one too?
Scarecrow
Lexxxi,

Just whisk the resulting yogurt. Not even with a mixer, but with a whisk in a cup. Or even a fork in a glass. Will you drinkable))). Beating any thermostatic product liquefies and decently.
sweetka
Quote: Lexxxi

sweetkaIs the temperature regime well maintained in a multicooker? Something I can't make up my mind to buy a yoghurt maker or a slow cooker ... A steamer costs itself idle, it's a pity you can't
At first I did it in a multicooker, without departing from the instructions. Measured temperature, withstood time. And then, somehow by itself it turned out that I "hammered" all these dances with tambourines and do this: pour unboiled milk, keep 10 in the "Baking" mode, dump the box of "Activia", close the cartoon and do not touch it until morning ... Sometimes, if the milk overheats (and this has happened, I forgot to turn off the baked goods :)) by the morning in the cartoon it turns out ... just milk. Then I turn on "Baking" for 5 minutes again and leave it alone for about an hour. This time is enough to make the yogurt.
The choice of what to buy is yours. But my opinion: a yogurt maker is just a yogurt maker. For a month or two, you eat so much yoghurts that you don't even want to. And then she stands idle. And a slow cooker is cooking, frying, baking and ... a yogurt maker. I have two. And both are used to the fullest almost every day.
Tashenka
Oh, I do not agree! The yoghurt maker and the cartoon are absolutely incomparable devices. I also have 2 multicooker, but I'm not going to give up the yogurt maker. I have it at least once a week at work, even if I don't feel like yogurt yet. I make sour cream in it. Very convenient, 1 glass per day. Yes, and "Agusha" for boys quite often I do. But that's just my opinion. So "think for yourself, decide for yourself whether to have or not to have!"
sweetka
I absolutely agree with the previous speaker! Decide exclusively locally. It is very important here to consider what taste preferences are in the family. My godfathers are lovers of everything meat and fried. They have a cartoon every couple of months. But the deep fryer - every other day! I don’t get a deep fryer for nothing, or with money. But I am absolutely delighted with multi. I don't make sour cream, so for me the yogurt maker is an extra device. And if the family is "dairy", then perhaps it makes sense.
plasmo4ka
Quote: Lexxxi
I found UHT milk in the store, but it's all long-term, but I kind of read that it's better for starter with short storage.
1) there is no UHT with a short shelf life
2) UHT produces the tastiest yoghurt

Quote: Lexxxi
yogurt on the second day also changed a little taste towards sourness
this is normal, because the yoghurt should ripen in the refrigerator

Quote: Lexxxi
Something I can't decide to buy a yoghurt maker or a slow cooker
I prefer yoghurt only from a yoghurt maker, from a multi - a different consistency

Quote: Tashenka
So "think for yourself, decide for yourself whether to have or not to have!"
support
sweetka
Quote: plasmo4ka

I prefer yoghurt only from a yoghurt maker, from a multi - a different consistency
Can you develop this topic a little?
plasmo4ka
Quote: sweetka
Can you develop this topic a little?
in what sense?
plasmo4ka
sweetka, here .. I found on the forum a description of my experiments with yoghurt makers and a slow cooker:

....Today I will conduct an experiment: I will ferment fitness yogurt and send some of the jars to the cartoon (though I have Redmond-60). I'll take Selyanskoe 2.6% milk from a tetrapak. Let's see what happens ..

... Experiment Results:

Yoghurt maker Vinis:
time -10 hours, t = 37- 40, the structure is homogeneous, dense (the spoon is standing, does not fall), the serum is absolutely absent, slightly acidic

Yogurt maker Delfa:
time - 8 hours, t = 37- 40, the structure is homogeneous, delicate, rather dense (the spoon is standing, does not fall), there is absolutely no serum, there is no acid

Multicooker Redmond:
put a silicone mat on the bottom
time - 8 hours
t = 40 - 48 - 43/44 (declared in the instructions for the cartoon - 40; an hour later with the lid closed - 48; the remaining time I cooked with the lid open to reduce t.
the structure is homogeneous, gentle air, there is a lot of whey, but in the refrigerator the yogurt has absorbed it, a slight hint of sourness
I made a conclusion for myself: I cook yogurt, as before, only in yogurt makers.
Lexxxi
Thank you all girls!
I will continue to experiment and probably buy a multicooker, probably Redmond. Both my kitchen just cannot accommodate
plasmo4ka
Quote: Lexxxi
buy a slow cooker, probably Redmond
just not the 60th !!! in principle, you can use it, but the power of 700 is not ice .. for the purposes for which I took it, I was satisfied with the low price, and the small power was not strained, but it’s not the only one for me .. you will choose - pay attention to the power, functionality, the possibility of purchasing an additional saucepan (availability in stores, price) - sooner or later you will need it ..
sazalexter
Please tell me, I bought for yesterday Moulinex YOGURTEO YG 230, Good Food yogurt starter, ultra milk + 2 tablespoons of dry whole.
I put it on 8 hours, the result is milk with lumps from the top, it did not sour.
Where did you screw it up?
The milk was at room temperature, not heated.
Date of production of the starter culture 20.02.13
The yoghurt maker stood in a cool room.
Is it possible to fix yogurt, it's a pity to throw it out in the morning in the chill.
Aygul
Quote: sazalexter

+ 2 tablespoons of dry whole.
I put it on 8 hours, the result is milk with lumps from the top, it did not sour.
Where did you screw it up?
The milk was at room temperature, not heated.
Date of production of the starter culture 20.02.13
Did you subtract the instructions for adding milk powder?
I had the same yogurt maker 10-15 years ago, there were such "miracles" in the instructions - add powdered milk, and put fruit / jam / sugar at once Everything is wrong! It turned out "something"
Ultra-pasteurized milk + sourdough + correct temperature conditions - these are the components of success!

In your case, I see the following:
1. No need to put milk powder. If everything is done correctly, the yogurt is already thick. And, as ferment producers say, powdered milk is not fermented.
2. Perhaps the starter was not kept in the refrigerator, the bacteria did not work. Since this starter has a shelf life of 2 years at a temperature of 0 +6 degrees
3. It is still recommended to preheat milk to the temperature indicated on the bag. Maybe this is the reason.
spring
I have the same yogurt maker. I do not heat anything, sometimes I add powdered milk, sometimes not, with dry milk it is thicker, euitalia sourdough or natural yogurt, ultra milk, pasteurized boiled, 8 hours is always obtained. You, apparently, have a problem in the sourdough, the yogurt maker itself is not bad, so for me.
Taia
Quote: sazalexter
Is it possible to fix yogurt, it's a pity to throw it away in the morning in the chill

Do not throw away, bake bread on it.
sazalexter
Thanks again everyone
I'll try to fix the yogurt.
Fotina
The first time it didn't work out yogurt (or homemade fermented dairy product, if for a fussy :)). Made with UHT milk 3.2% Pyatigorsk. Drowned in a slow cooker for 12 hours (I like something like varenets). Fermented with sour cream 18% "Vologzhanka" of the Vologda Dairy Plant (shelf life 14 days, natural composition according to the label, good taste). Neither in the yogurt maker nor in the multicooker did not ferment.In a slow cooker it did not thicken at all, in a yogurt maker after 16 hours of exposure - a barely noticeable density, thinner than drinking yogurt. And the taste is not particularly, I don't understand what I don't like ..
I just wanted to try to make homemade sour cream today, and for sourdough I only have this Vologzhanka in the refrigerator .. And Vologda factory cream, but with a shelf life of 5 days (I have only seen long-term storage in St. Petersburg, not counting the market ones), therefore, an urgent need to be determined.
What is more often to blame for the fact that yoghurt is not fermented? Milk or sourdough?
Previously, there were no problems - I did it in the cartoon, in the yogurt maker, and in the oven. And on various purchased, pharmacy starter cultures, the contents of bifiform, yogulact capsules. On activism and sour cream .. On ultra-pasteurized, pasteurized store and from a barrel, melted and not ... in general, the experience is great, and always successful.
So today I got upset and fell into a stupor - "what was that ???"
True, I have never done it with this milk or this sour cream before.
selenа
Svetlana,
Quote: Fotina
True, I have never done it with this milk or this sour cream before.
You answered yourself.
Fotina
Didn't answer :))
Both products are hardly to blame. I haven't tried milk, but the sour cream is very tasty. Probably, I'll risk fermenting it again. Cream this time. If it works out, the milk is to blame. If it doesn't work, then sour cream. It is a pity, however, there will be transferred cream.
selenа
Svetlana, the owner is a master, but if the sour cream is tasty, why not use it for its intended purpose, and take a proven product that did not let you down as a leaven. To spoil milk wherever it goes, but cream is already quite a pity
Fotina
I thought - I'll do it.
sazalexter
FotinaWhy reinvent the wheel? Whole ultra-pasteurized milk House in the village 3.7-3.9%
ultra cream 10-20% in Lenta, Bulgarian starter cultures Lactina rf / where_to_buy / regions / sankt-peterburg /
will work without problems. What was there at the dairy plant in this sour cream, whether the technology was followed, who knows.
PS: Pyatigorskoe milk from Pyaterochka, I personally did not like it.
mowgli
we, too, are not very local Pyatigorskoe moloeo ... We never buy it here. I take our Stavropol
Fotina
It was trite with milk - I decided to save ten rubles))). I made an order in an online store, and saw this milk - ultra-pasteurized, 3.2% fat, at 41 rubles / liter. Pyatigorsk "Economy". Damn pulled ..
I have never seen such a thing anywhere, in the next five, milk is mainly from the North-West, well, with the sanctions, Belarusian milk appeared and a little bit from Central Russia. The Stavropol region is still far away, strange marketing))
Since two are already dissatisfied with milk, I will not risk it anymore.

And sour cream is good. Just about the products of the Combine, which produces them, the reviews are good. Well, I intuitively believe it's delicious))

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