Marihuna
I consulted with the "guru" about the multicooker and heard the information on my own head that, for example, in Cuckoo 1054 and 1010 the lid gets dirty quite often (due to intense boiling and other cooking features). And what about Bork's (this is the same cuckoo)? When cooking soups, cereals and other things, how often does the lid get stained?
And here's another important detail. Manufacturer 1054 STRONGLY recommends not cooking dishes containing a large amount of liquid at a temperature of 120 degrees, due to the danger of liquid ejection through the valve and its contamination. What does Bork say about this?
Rina
I do not know what Bork says about this (especially since Bork is a twin of a cookie), but there should be an elementary knowledge of the principles and features of work under pressure.

The lid will stain any pressure cooker - boiling, even at high pressure, is boiling. Moreover, if automatic pressure relief is supposed. Clearly in physics - if the pressure drops, then the boiling point also drops. But if with a pressure cooker additional pressure we get 120 degrees of boiling, then when the dish cools down to a temperature below 100 degrees so that there is no boiling even at normal atmospheric pressure?

This is why you need to be very careful when cooking large volumes of LIQUID under pressure. Do not forcibly release pressure... Spitting out through the valve will just happen if you relieve the pressure at the end of cooking forcibly - you should not spit during cooking if the valve is clean.
Marihuna
Well, yes, that's right. It's just that the owners of Oursson MP5005PSD (and especially those who have both 5005 and Cuckoo1054) just focus on this. That under almost equal cooking conditions, the lid in Oursson MP5005PSD almost always remains clean. I wonder why?
And I, a fool, somehow completely lost my way in choosing between three "birches" - Bork (good, but very and unjustifiably expensive), Oursson 5005 (it seems like they are very much praised recently) and Cuckoo1054 (they also praised it before, but " - "- non-separable lid, problems with the valve, burning, worse bowl).
Kisa7767
Quote: Oxysss

15:09
Today I bought it) I'll start testing) I chose for a long time, tedious ... as a result, I decided to go broke ...

PS I must say that Bork has no problems with the service (fie foo)! Cups are on sale, grates ... in short, whatever you want. In case of problems, they change immediately. Well, the warranty is 2 years.
tell me where to buy an additional bowl for a multicooker?
sazalexter
In service
Vei
Today my husband gave me a Bork U700. Before that, I was in the throes of choosing between Element, Cuckoo 1054 and Bork U700, which my husband allowed himself, after listening to all the pros and cons. Seeing this miracle in my kitchen, and not on the shelf in the store, I realized that he was right!
And the first thing I decided to cook was pilaf. It turned out delicious, just not pilaf and not even porridge with meat, but rice puree))))) but my hands are still crooked, or rather the recipes from Bork's book I still understand literally. Apparently it was not worth it, but this is my first cartoon, I don't know anything yet. So I hoped for help from the audience, but there is no one here, who can answer?
sazalexter
Vei You have a "manual choice" in Bork, here is the recipe and method https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=92825.0
PS: Most of the recipes are suitable from the cuckoo and from other pressure cookers, because this is essentially a Cuckoo, only a different model
Vei
Quote: Marihuna

I consulted with the "guru" about the multicooker and heard the information on my own head that, for example, in Cuckoo 1054 and 1010 the lid gets dirty quite often (due to intense boiling and other cooking features).And what about Bork's (this is the same cuckoo)? When cooking soups, cereals and other things, how often does the lid get stained?
And here's another important detail. Manufacturer 1054 STRONGLY recommends not to cook dishes containing a large amount of liquid at a temperature of 120 degrees, due to the danger of liquid ejection through the valve and its contamination. What does Bork say about this?

BORK says little in general, but the instructions say that the recommended temperature for the multi-cook mode is 120 * C. I don’t set it on a multi-cooker, but on automatic programs I don’t know what the temperature is, only the lid gets dirty and the MV is also powerful enough ... Although the lid is completely disassembled and washed.
Oxysss
Quote: Vei

Today my husband gave me a Bork U700. Before that, I was in the throes of choosing between the Element, Cuckoo 1054 and Bork U700, which my husband allowed himself, after listening to all the pros and cons. Seeing this miracle in my kitchen, and not on the shelf in the store, I realized that he was right!
And the first thing I decided to cook was pilaf. It turned out delicious, just not pilaf and not even porridge with meat, but rice puree))))) but my hands are still crooked, or rather the recipes from Bork's book I still understand literally. Apparently it was not worth it, but this is my first cartoon, I don't know anything yet. So I hoped for help from the audience, but there is no one here, who can answer?
We poured a lot of water) We went through it. You need enough water to cover the rice a little. That is, fry meat in the "oven", a layer of onions, carrots, rice. Fill with water. Pilaf mode. All. PS Well, rice, essno, long-grain.
Vei
The fact of the matter is that real pilaf is made only from round rice, and the Chinese cuisine, which we love and often cook, is also all on round ... Fortunately, I have already brought boiled "Kuban" to the standard we need by trial and error ... It is a pity that for this it was necessary to transfer products and time. If the recipe book was adequate and the instructions were normal, it would be another matter, life would become easier. And now I have this cartoon as a brilliant, but difficult child - you understand that before you get the result, you will have to spend a lot of nerves ((((although when I master the result, the question is when it will be!
I just bought Brand 502 for my mother, while I'm testing it myself. So I was shocked by the instructions and recipes and functionality for such and such money. With Bork they, of course, are in completely different weight categories, BUT people work (I mean Brand) !!!
Why don't Bork at least pretend that they are working out their premium segment!
Vei
No, well, who would have thought ?! I fry, I fry, on the frying mode - but it does not fry, it is so-so. I was thinking, well, it should be like this: slow: until I tried to pass the onion in Brand 502 (850 watts, so for a minute). So in Brand, after 20 minutes, the onions were fried, but in Bork - well, nothing
Here it still dawns on me to try the "Oven" mode 3 level - and that's it. - in 2 minutes, onions, carrots, and bell peppers were fried !!!! Damn, my comrades from Bork threw me up with their "Roasting" mode. I knew - don't believe your eyes, that is, Bork's instructions and recipe book, although, of course, she didn't, because it was the first cartoon in my life, eh. .. and still she's cool
sazalexter
Cuckoo also has the oven fries and the frying is not very good, this is their family
Sanechka
Good day!
Today this miracle of the 21st century appeared in my kitchen! I'm very happy! White, beautiful and smart. Rather, little white, beautiful and smart
And it all started like this ... For the new year, we gave an element of my own choice. She was also happy as an elephant. Even in the absence of recipes, everything that they managed to try to cook was super! And rice milk porridge and soups and stews. But ... Alas. Manufacturing defects! The plastic ring on the lid burst. The service said that it is already the fourth cartoon with such a problem. At first I wanted to exchange it for the same one, but the store lowered the price for it greatly, explaining that there are a lot of complaints about this cartoon! Terribly built up! And so the choice fell on bork.
The first thing we cooked (with my husband for a couple.He is also a fan of experimenting) ear in Finnish! It turned out very much! Even my precarious son has thrashed everything! Now the porridge is on the timer. Tomorrow I'll write how it turned out ...
Oh! I'm all in anticipation :))
Vei
Congratulations!!! : rose: I am very happy to receive the replenishment, as there are very few of us here. And what kind of porridge did they put? I was here in such euphoria - I cooked a bunch of filderable delicacies on a multi-cooker, and when I was pushed to cook oatmeal porridge according to a recipe from a book ... God, I was washing my Vasya there - almost all night! since then I have a phobia - I'm afraid of a repeat of this nightmare!
Sanechka
I put the rice in. Both children and husband love. I confess that I had an experience of making milk porridge in Borok. For the new year, my husband's mother was given. The first time on the "porridge" mode it turned out to be complete nonsense. The husband did not calm down on this ... We chose a "multi-cook" 105C and 30 min. The proportions are 1 to 6. It turned out great ... And on heating it got a golden brown color! As from the stove
Vei
I cooked oatmeal porridge exactly according to the recipe from the book ... I don’t know how the stars didn’t come together there, but she ran away so that even in the hinges of the lid everything was in porridge, not to mention the valve and other cracks. I actually washed it all night and then another half day on self-cleaning. After that, it was buggy to the fullest, I thought everything - we arrived, not weeks have passed, and already in the service for repairs. But then just a fabulous thing happened, almost magical, mystical, well, or whatever you like:
I do not remember where on the forum I read that some of the girls in the service were strongly advised to give their devices names so that they would not break. And when we got this fantastic black unit and speaking in a male voice, we began to invent different names for it (according to the logic of the husband, male). They did not distinguish themselves with originality and at first they called Borya (after all, this is Bork). But this name did not lie with anyone ... I suggested Varya - since she cooks, and her husband says: "What kind of Varya is this, who speaks in a man's voice?" - and after all, right ... Then I don't know why I called THIS Vasya ...
So, when the mule began to glitch hard after my superwash (apparently the water got somewhere, I don't know) I was seriously scared: not only did they pay as they closed it from the plane, but I was again at the stove myself, and still go to the service! In general, I spent a lot of nerves and did not sleep for two nights.
The most interesting thing happened next, namely after I accidentally called HER VASILISSA !!! for some it will seem nonsense, she probably would not have believed it, but she suddenly started working right away, and that's how it was. Now we live with Vasilisa (what the Wise is for sure)))) and I'm afraid to use automatic programs after the "wonderful" Herculean porridge!
Tanyulya
Cook porridge, like we do in the cuckoo on Multipovar, up to 95 degrees, the higher everyone will surely run away. The principle with a cuckoo is the same for them, small nuances differ, and in this type of pressure cooker the weak link is the valve.
Sanechka
What a yummy !!! ) Pts ourselves love to pamper ourselves with Czech dishes! Especially after a trip to Prague, which we finally fell in love with! True, they haven't cooked in mulk yet. Did not have time. For now, we are trying something simpler. We must understand the principle and possibilities ...
And if it's not a secret (for inexperienced users of the resource) where can you see the recipe?
And about the name, yes! I had such a situation with the car. We are now talking to her, and, it seems, she listens to me

Sanechka
Girls, I report on porridge:
1multi-siacan rice
5 glasses of milk
1 glass of water
Salt sugar butter butter to taste ...
"Multi-cook" mode 105С, 30 min ...

Nothing escaped, nothing burned ... Everything cooked wonderfully. True, the lid is not perfectly clean, but I think this is the norm ...
Oxysss
And those, where the dish "pilaf" comes from, know that they are Chinese? They somehow use long-grain, and not "for sushi". But this is so .. lyrics .. Since when does the "porridge" mode not work? Any (rice, millet and others like them) cook well.Hercules, like tenderly and quickly cooked groats, especially in modern versions of "express groats", is cooked in Borok on a multi-cooker 120 gr 10 min.
PS Mode "porridge" 1 tbsp of cereals for 4 tbsp of liquid. Liquid as you like, but 2 milk + 2 water.
Oxysss
Quote: sazalexter

A way to cook porridge https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=90590.0
45 (!!!) minutes to cook porridge ???
Vei
Quote: Sanechka

True, they haven't cooked in mulk yet. Did not have time. For now, we are trying something simpler.
And if it's not a secret (for inexperienced users of the resource) where can you peep the recipe?

I don't know why, but I have a problem with simpler dishes, and especially with automatic programs.
I myself have not yet figured out the technical aspects of adding recipes, but through my profile you can probably see my recipe or through a search. I did not find a separate topic with recipes for the Bork multicooker. Nothing)))) we'll master everything quietly - both mulyu and forum!
Sanechka
Vooot, so as not to be unfounded: a photo of what happened ... It was delicious, but in my opinion a lot. Children love thinner, although they ate it with pleasure ...

Multicooker-pressure cooker Bork U700
Sanechka
Quote: Oxysss

45 (!!!) minutes to cook porridge ???
Yeah, porridge 45 is a long time. I cook the same amount on the stove ... So why a cartoon in that case ?!
Sanechka
And my question is ripe)
So the splattered lid is strong or within the normal range? Or is it possible to achieve that would not get dirty at all?
Multicooker-pressure cooker Bork U700
Levitan
On the stove you stand about and wait for it to boil, to make it quieter, then watch so that it does not burn. In a multicooker with porridge, the principle works - he threw it and left, while he threw the cereal into cold milk. And the pan is heated only from the bottom, and the multicooker is like a thermos and the porridge in it turns out to be tastier, especially if the porridge is left heated. I like the method, for example, from millet, when it is cooked for 30 minutes and it is heated for 30 minutes - and without my participation, it will turn it down and switch to heating itself. By the way, in a slow cooker it is very easy to keep porridge (and not only porridge) warm for at least a few hours, this porridge is only good for it.
I don't quite understand exactly the bork, or rather why it is better than multicooker, which is much cheaper (in my opinion, they are much more functional), but the multicooker itself (any) is a very useful thing.

The cover (bottom) is easy to remove and clean. There is no problem.
julifera
Quote: Sanechka

I report on porridge:
"Multi-cook" mode 105С, 30 min ...

Quote: Sanechka

And my question is ripe)
So the splattered lid is strong or within the normal range? Or is it possible to achieve that would not get dirty at all?

Put 100 C
If it gets dirty, then try at 95 C

Here either this or that:
1 - either a smudged lid, but faster
2 - either a clean lid and slower

I am a supporter of gentle and soft cooking for porridge, with a bias towards languishing, they still open up more tasty, that is, I prefer option 2
Oxysss
Quote: Sanechka

Yeah, porridge 45 is a long time. I cook the same amount on the stove ... So why, in that case, a cartoon ?!
"Porridge" mode - 20 min. Including everything - both the set and the release of pressure. So, by the way.
Sanechka
Quote: Oxysss

And those, where the dish "pilaf" comes from, know that they are Chinese? They somehow use long-grain, and not "for sushi". But this is so .. lyrics .. Since when does the "porridge" mode not work? Any (rice, millet and others like them) cook well. Hercules, like tenderly and quickly cooked groats, especially in modern versions of "express groats", is cooked in Borok on a multi-cooker 120 gr 10 min.
PS Mode "porridge" 1 tbsp of cereals for 4 tbsp of liquid. Liquid as you like, but 2 milk + 2 water.

Everyone in my family loves rice porridge, which is liquid and boiled, boiled! Here immediately her and
We tried to cook it. It turned out to be complete nonsense. Rice did not absorb milk with water as it should, did not become corrupted ... I do not know why. But we didn't try again. On the multi-brew it turned out as it should ...
Something like this...
Sanechka
Quote: Levitan

On the stove you stand about and wait for it to boil, to make it quieter, then watch so that it does not burn. In a multicooker with porridge, the principle works - he threw it and left, while he threw the cereal into cold milk. And the pan is heated only from the bottom, and the multicooker is like a thermos and the porridge in it turns out to be tastier, especially if the porridge is left heated.I like the method, for example, from millet, when it is cooked for 30 minutes and it is heated for 30 minutes - and without my participation, it will make it quieter and switch to heating itself. By the way, in a slow cooker it is very easy to keep porridge (and not only porridge) warm for at least a few hours, this is only good for porridge.

Oh, in this I completely agree with you ... All four years, while my youngest toddler was growing up, I dreamed that instead of me someone would cook porridge, cook omelets and bake casseroles ... This is probably one of the fundamental wishes, from -for which they bought a mule :) and there are still so many things in it, just a head spin)
I don't quite understand exactly the bork, or rather why it is better than multicooker, which is much cheaper (in my opinion, they are much more functional), but the multicooker itself (any) is a very useful thing.

Bork is a certain philosophy of life !!! (Read in vogue!)
I'm kidding, of course! It's just a modern unit that has a proper look. Someone considers it functional, someone does not ... But this is everyone's business. A matter of taste and fin. opportunities. By the way, I would very much like to know about non-functionality ... What can bork not be compared to other cartoons ??? I am very pleased to look at him in my kitchen. immediately there is a desire to cook something thread. There is no such thing with others (except for elementa, but it's a mess, I wrote about this above).

The cover (bottom) is easy to remove and clean. There is no problem.
Yes, I don't mind ... It's just that everyone complained so much that the lid gets dirty ... Or I got the impression that they complained. Probably something I didn't understand ...
Sanechka
Quote: julifera

Put 100 C
If it gets stuck, then try at 95 C

Here either this or that:
1 - either a stained lid, but faster
2 - either a clean lid or slower

I am a supporter of gentle and soft cooking for porridge, with a bias towards languishing, they still open up more tasty, that is, I prefer option 2

Exactly, you are right! Need to try. After all, it used to be a problem to get up early in the morning and cook porridge. And now the delayed start-taxis! you can reduce the temperature and add time. Probably it will turn out to be both rich and baked)
Thank you, I will try to experiment!
Levitan
Quote: Sanechka

What can bork not be compared to other cartoons ???
You can do everything in Panasonic, but it's difficult. As, for example, to make sour cream (maximum temperature 35 degrees) or yogurt (maximum T 40 degrees) in bork. Can you insist the dough (so that, without touching it later, you can switch directly to baking bread)? No, the minimum temperature on the multi-cooker is too high and the time is too short for this.
Or, for baking, I need 40 minutes or 1 hour 20 minutes, how can I change the time in the bark? No, the time is not reset for baking, as with other programs. This is inconvenient. Watch it and turn it off earlier, or watch it again and restart it a second time, and then stand over it again to turn it off for half a program. This is far from a complete answer to the question posed, but just a quick glance.

Quote: Sanechka

which looks like
Handsome, no doubt about it. Outwardly, there are 2 multicooker very similar to bork (by the way, more functional than it, but cheaper) - these are Polaris 517 and Redmond M90. They are both without pressure, which IMHO is better for many dishes - and you can look under the lid, cook not according to the principle of "threw everything", but according to real recipes (for example, I like to add to soup in stages); do not wait for the steam to be released, with pressure it is good to cook long-playing dishes (jellied meat, for example, but there will not be much of it in the bark), meat without pressure is tastier (it turns out very squeezed under pressure).

Quote: Sanechka
A matter of taste and fin. opportunities.
Having financial resources does not mean wasting them thoughtlessly on pathos. An experienced multicooker will never fall for such a bait. For my taste, the price is 10 thousand on a market day, the rest is a payment for the myth that the more expensive the better. It's funny. For this money I bought 3 different multicooker - I like it more. If you don't like it, I'll change it. But the bork is not ice, for example, in the 37501 brand, the multi-cook is 100 times steeper (T from 40 to 180 degrees - it will fry like this and the time is 12 hours) - if only functionality for 33 thousand was crammed into the bork, I would buy , without hesitation.

Something happened again. I only answered questions.
sola19
I read and wonder ... it feels like each cartoon is set up differently, this is also on other sites ... For example, oatmeal porridge in porridge mode is simply gorgeous. I watched the video for bork and did the same: 1 glass of rolled oats and 2.5 milk (three is possible) The only thing that I subtracted is not to salt or sweeten, someone wrote, this is in bork. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I have a great class. This is my first cartoon, I own it for a month, while everything worked out. His name is Gosha. Immediately called ... The only thing, the first time on the trail. DAY OF PURCHASE - borscht ran away ... poured to the eyeballs ... did not know yet ... the end was ... honey cake made, boiled tongue, baked pork in dough, baked roast .... until all the norm. The potatoes are cooked for 20 minutes. on a multi-cooker 120gr. whole bowl. I also made salmon on puff pastry, with onions and cheese! Just class. YESTERDAY I bought my mother a baby binatone muc -2116. She also talks, only a girl - they named Niusia. In general, we are having fun ... about her in her topic ...
Vei
Irina Levitan, tell me, do you have Redmond RMC-M90? I'm a little confused with your technique))))
If yes, then I wanted to torment you with questions about this model, because I am looking closely at it.
Levitan
no, I have an m70, as well as an Orson 5005 and a brand 6060 pressure cooker smokehouse.
Quote: Vei

Irina Levitan, tell me, do you have Redmond RMC-M90? I'm a little confused with your technique))))
If yes, then I wanted to torment you with questions about this model, because I am looking closely at it.
there is a topic on the forum about m90, though small, but the first owners appeared there https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186519.0
Vei
Yes, thank you, I just got confused due to the fact that someone from the members of the forum mentioned that he won the Redmond-90 competition, it seemed to me that it was you.
It is a pity, you always sort out all the pros and cons on the shelves so meaningfully and reasonably. ))))
Vei
Quote: sazalexter

A way to cook porridge https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=90590.0

And what thoughts on the topic of pearl barley porridge or whole (including sprouted) wheat and other whole grains of long cooking. What mode would you recommend and proportions? On water ... And on milk too.
sazalexter
For cooking in water, I have a porridge mode, but I almost never use it
Vei
Quote: sazalexter

For cooking in water, I have a porridge mode, but I almost never use it

So I ask - how is it BETTER to cook long-cooked side dishes?
Levitan
Quote: Vei

Yes, thank you, I just got confused due to the fact that someone from the members of the forum mentioned that he won the Redmond-90 competition, it seemed to me that it was you.
It is a pity, you always sort out all the pros and cons on the shelves so meaningfully and reasonably. ))))
I won m70 (for a pie at 4502)
m90 on sale for about a month, there was hardly a competition for it somewhere.
But if that .... I'm for any KIPish, except hunger strike
Quote: Vei

put all the pros and cons on the shelves. ))))
in m90 only theoretically and then on the tops, without going into details. there is an instruction on the Internet, you can read it, it is understandable.
Levitan
on Boston quiche
not only I won, we are five winners. the competition was held six months ago.

sometimes wonderful contests are held on this forum, only recently the competition has ended from the brand https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=178481.0 take part - in my opinion, it's interesting.
Oxysss
Oh, how I "like" it when people who do not have a device discuss its inadequacies and the "squeezed" meat in it ... When I called the cuckoo a plastic bucket, I was torn to pieces ..
And little Benechka 2116 is good!))) I really want him)
Levitan
Oxysss
I have cooked meat several times in different multicooker under different pressure and without pressure at all, so I can compare. If you don't know the taste of meat cooked in a stewed way without pressure, then meat under pressure is delicious.
Vei
Quote: Vei

And what thoughts on the topic of pearl barley porridge or whole (including sprouted) wheat and other whole grains of long cooking. What mode would you recommend and proportions? On water ... And on milk too.
sazalexter
Quote: Vei

So I ask - how is it BETTER to cook long-cooked side dishes?
As I said, almost all ideas from the Cuckoo will do, this one for example https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=169253.0 or this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=75429.0 can you find something else for yourself https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=76896.0
Vei
Yesterday I experimented with cooking sprouted wheat at first it turned out to be almost fried popcorn. Then she steamed it all - poured it with water and put it on the porridge again. In the end, something worked out, in any case, my husband ate everything with pleasure, but for me it is so inedible. But still it was not raw. I never found an option. I cook it on the stove for half a day, but it turned out to be delicious
annnita
Levitan, I don’t understand, you write on several forums that you don’t like dishes from multi-pressure cookers, but what are you doing here then? If anything, I don't have Bork, another multi-pressure cooker, also not cheap, but I read about different ones, I'm just interested in the difference between them, but wherever I look, there is your IMHO. Even if you cooked meat both under pressure and without, this is only a matter of your taste, and for what price people buy themselves multicooker or multi-pressure cooker is their own business and their personal money. No need to blame other people's equipment and show them as suckers, since they bought Bork, the price of which "on the market day" is 10 thousand (in your opinion), for 35. You know, and many are even very happy with the purchase! Forgive me if I offended you, but you also somehow incorrectly address your IMHO.

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