Vichka
Quote: Suslya

Oh what a stove! VS NIKA congratulations! And the scales are conveniently attached dreamaaa .. And when will there be bread?
Suslya , Thank you!!! Of course I will try bread today.
As a student, I will start from elementary school: wheat, wheat-rye and French.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I just looked at the recipes in the instructions. Branda's management did a very good job, put together good recipes. I would only slightly reduce the sugar in some to my taste, by 0.5-1 tsp. Victoria, what was the first recipe you chose, from the instructions or what other?
Vichka

I want to try the first recipe from the instructions, what do you think?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: VS NIKA

I want to try the first recipe from the instructions, what do you think?
White bread is a great recipe. But as I already wrote, I would put sugar for myself on 500 grams - 1 tbsp. l., 750 - 1.5 st. l., for 1000 gr - 2 tbsp. l. But you try as it is written, maybe you will like it so much, the taste and color as they say ...
Nevushka
Quote: VS NIKA

I want to try the first recipe from the instructions, what do you think?
Can I go for Ksyusha? Vika, the most correct solution, in my opinion, is to try all the recipes from the instructions - after all, an ordinary user will not immediately go to the bread maker for recipes.
Vichka
The stove shakes slightly during mixing.
Gingerbread man during a stop. The dough does not stick to your hands. (2nd batch)
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Vichka
Next bun (3rd batch)Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Victoria, during the first batch they did not help at all with a spatula? Did you mix everything yourself so well? what a clever girl! I help a little in my big buckets for two mixers, in the corners there is very little flour, especially in Moulinex.
Vichka
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Victoria, during the first batch they did not help at all with a spatula? Did you mix everything yourself so well? what a clever girl! I help a little in my big buckets for two mixers, in the corners there is very little flour, especially in Moulinex.
Xenia, it didn't even occur to me that I still need to help with a spatula, the stove itself was kneading everything.
Manna
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Victoria, during the first batch they did not help at all with a spatula? Did you mix everything yourself so well? what a clever girl! I help a little in my big buckets for two mixers, in the corners there is very little flour, especially in Moulinex.
Here the bucket is round at the bottom without corners
Vichka
The 4th batch is over.

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Nevushka
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Nevushka, formulated the very thing. In the morning, somehow I slow down, although we already have lunch in full.
And in fact, dear testers, if possible, run your own recipes, although in my opinion they are successful. Vera, you can see how the time will be. But it seems to me that no special adjustments are needed, if only someone has some special taste.
Yes, everything seems to be fine with recipes. I have studied the instructions up and down for a long time

VS NIKA , Vika, and what yeast did you take?
We are waiting for the result!
Vichka
Nevushka, yeast is like that.

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Vichka
Here's what happened. White bread, cf. crust.

SIDE
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TOP
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BOTTOM
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And why is he so crooked?
Suslya
and what is the recipe for bread? how much flour?
SchuMakher
Email us for the complete recipe, pliiiz!
Catwoman
Vikulya, show me the cutter. Well, for the first time, generally gorgeous bread, on what program did you bake it and what recipe?
Vichka
WHITE BREAD
from the Brand 3801 bread machine manual

Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic

500g, 1 program - White bread

water 190ml
vegetable oil 3.5 h. l.
salt 1 tsp l.
sugar 2.5 tsp l.
wheat flour 350g
yeast 1 tsp l.
SchuMakher
VS NIKA In now it is clear ... He is crooked, patamu INTO maaa small! Drink 450 - 500 grams of flour and you will be happy!
Catwoman

Vikul, while Masha-ShuMakher has already sculpted an answer for you! For this weight, the bread is 100 points. Well done!
SchuMakher
Well yes...he motels along the entire volume, then he fits into one corner and lies, puffs, one side crawls along the wall, the other has not yet crawled. You can make flour with such a weight, only then, after the last kneading, you need to get the kolobok, make it even and put it evenly, so that it would take the bottom of everything, then it will rise and expand evenly.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I forgot to write, Victoria, for a debut a very good loaf came out. Have you tasted it yet?
Catwoman
Quote: ShuMakher

Well, yes ... he motels around the entire volume, then he fits into one corner and lies, puffs, one side climbs the wall, the other has not crawled yet. You can make flour with such a weight, only then, after the last kneading, you need to get the kolobok, make it even and put it evenly, so that it would take the bottom of everything, then it will rise and expand evenly.

Most often I bake a large loaf, but if it's a small one, then I take it out, shape it and lay it flat, but in this case I immediately remove the mixer.
Vichka
Reassured, THANKS !!!

Firstborn incision.

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MariV
Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic

Well, how would it be .......
Gasha
Quote: MariV

Well, how would it be .......

Nooo ... A recipe? Ol, is the top not too light?

With the first bread, Olgun !!!
Vichka
MILK BREAD

from the manual for the Brand 3801 bread maker

Weight 750g, dark crust, 1st program

milk 260ml
butter 50g
salt 1 tsp l.
sugar 2.5 tsp l.
wheat flour 400g
yeast 1 tsp l.

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Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: VS NIKA

MILK BREAD
Oooh, handsome! Victoria, super! You also write about the taste pliz, otherwise it's interesting!
Vichka
MILK BREAD in the context.
Weight 645g
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Aygul
VS NIKA, milk bread is beautiful and very blush. How does it taste like? And when you cut, does it crumble? How long did it take from the moment it was baked until it was cut?
Vichka
Quote: Aygul

VS NIKA, milk bread is beautiful and very blush. How does it taste like? And when you cut, does it crumble? How long did it take from the moment it was baked until it was cut?
Aygul, Thank you! This is just my second bread, I still have to study and study.
Crumbs are all that is on the napkin, of course not all of them are visible, but there are not so many of them.
The bread is cut while still warm, you yourself must understand, impatient.
To the taste (I did not try it myself) they said that it was VERY, VERY TASTY !!!
Gasha
VS NIKA, milk bread - "Excellent!" Good girl!
Vichka
Quote: Gasha

VS NIKA, milk bread - "Excellent!" Good girl!
Gasha, Thank you so much!!! Flattered!
MariV
Quote: MariV

Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic
The recipe is from the instructions for HP.
White bread, for 750 gr of finished product.

Water 250 ml
Rast. oil - 1.5 tbsp. l.
Salt - 1 tsp
Sugar - 3 tsp
Flour 455 g
Yeast -1 tsp
Program - 1, crust - medium.

Duration of execution - 3 hours 25 minutes.
It was 5 mixes. Perhaps this was done in order not to overload the motor with a longer batch.

How to remove the sound signal? she beeps somewhere in the middle of the cycle to throw dried fruits into the dough. If you put it at night - not comfort.
Keeping the lid open when baking to prevent the top from baking is an interesting idea! Maybe someone will implement this proposal ...
The night stood on the grate - the upper part tastes like unbaked bread.
Catwoman
Quote: MariV

This question is not for me. In Panaska I did not observe this, and I have had it since 2007.

Olya, do not worry! Nice bread turned out, the top is only pale, maybe it's true, she has some kind of small marriage.?
MariV
Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic

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Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic
Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basic

From the recipe book - Milk bread

For a finished product weight of 750 g.

Milk - 260 ml
Butter - 50 g
Salt - 1 tsp
Granulated sugar - 2.5 tbsp. l.
Wheat flour - 400 g
Dry yeast - 1 tsp. (I don't use practically dry yeast, put pressed -8 g)

I put crumbled yeast in a bucket, poured 260 ml of milk, butter in slices, added salt and sugar - (measuring spoons from the kit are fully consistent with our tablespoons and teaspoons).
Then I measured 300 g of flour and put it on program 1, the weight of the finished product is 750, the crust is dark.
And I immediately received the answer - why do you need so many mixes - after the first and second mixes I added flour - after all, it is different - it is better not to add, and in the process of mixing it can be corrected. I don't like very steep dough.
About 100 grams and added.
It turned out a little crooked, but it's not scary!
Perhaps that's why -

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In general, I am satisfied with the result - it did not come easily!
Vichka
Ksyusha, baked your bread and spoiled it herself!
I put it on baking and left.I come, well, I think everything is ready, I open it, and he is white! The lid pop, but it's late, I look, and there he needs another 1 hour 10. Well, that's what happened, so sorry.

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Gasha
MariV, Olyushka, now - with the first bread !!!
MariV
Quote: Gasha

MariV, Olyushka, now - with the first bread !!!
Virgo, solely with the help of your moral support!
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- I know that the bread must be allowed to stand - but I could not resist, I cut lactic, anyway, they have already begun to pinch it off from below. It is tasty!
Catwoman
Ksyusha, I will definitely answer and very quickly, but this is only when I get the stove.

MariV, I join Ksyushin's words - Wonderful bread!
Vichka
BREAD "GREEK" WITH CHEESE

1st PROGRAM, DARK CRUST, 1000g

milk - 280ml
vegetable oil - 2 tbsp. l.
salt - 1 tsp l.
sugar - 1 tbsp. l.
flour - 530g
yeast - 1.5 tsp.
grated cheese - 1 tbsp.


4 mixes

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Bread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basicBread maker Brand 3801. Program 1 - White bread or basicadded cheese after the third batch
after the fourth kneading, the dough was placed exactly in shape and left on the 1st rise
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finished weight 860g, taste reminiscent of milk bread and a slight taste and smell of cheese.

Catwoman
Viculya, do you sleep at night? The bread is pretty, the roof would be a little more even. Vika, show us the cutter, okay?
Vichka
Quote: Catwoman

Viculya, do you sleep at night? The bread is pretty, the roof would be a little more even. Vika, show us the cutter, okay?
Lenus, this is an evening one, I took a photo yesterday too, it was still warm and therefore did not cut it.
Gasha
Vicus, crumb - not very ... Something is not right ... Have you tried to achieve a rounder kolobok? And just before Baking, in some cases, you can moisten your palm in warm water and smooth the top of the bread ...
Vichka
Quote: Gasha

Vicus, crumb - not very ... Something is not right ... Have you tried to achieve a rounder kolobok? And just before Baking, in some cases, you can moisten your palm in warm water and smooth the top of the bread ...
I didn't smear it with water, but a bun, I wrote there that I corrected it after the 4th batch.
Gasha
Vikus, the roundness of the bun is achieved during kneading ... (flour-water). Before baking - smooth the roof ...

I wrote there that I corrected after the 4th batch

I read, but did not see in the photographs ...
Vichka
Quote: Gasha

Vikus, the roundness of the bun is achieved during kneading ... (flour-water). Before baking - smooth the roof ...

I read, but did not see in the photographs ...
Thank you, I'm learning!
Gasha
And you will definitely learn, and very quickly !!! Your hands are golden !!! And you started baking bread just three days ago, so small flaws in the process of gaining experience are quite acceptable ...
Vichka
Quote: Gasha

And you will definitely learn, and very quickly !!! Your hands are golden !!! And you started baking bread just three days ago, so small flaws in the process of gaining experience are quite acceptable ...
Gasha, thanks for the nice words !!! That's why I show koloboks, to be corrected, this is my main ignorance.
Joy
VS NIKA, MariV, Koshatnitsa, congratulations girls. Very happy about you. The bread maker is very interesting in your tests. I will look into this topic with pleasure.
They have already baked so much - well done.
True, I have one observation ... Judging by the roof of the bread and some cuts, the bread turns out to be stagnant. Girls, this is not your fault. Here you need to correct the recipes for these baking modes - I would reduce the amount of yeast in the recipes. Apparently, the last recipe is too long for these recipes. Or you can use manual mode and shorten the time of the last bout.

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