Manna
Quote: Slavutchanka

There is no milk porridge in it, there is just Porridge. Then this mode can be sensory - porridge for a side dish
No, no, this is not a side dish, this is just porridge, and the instructions also say about milk

Quote: Roza_Irina

I used this mode to cook chicken drumsticks in sour cream, switched off myself.
Yes, yes, in such modes, a dish with sauce comes out great
LxLT
Quote: Vei

LxLT, I would recommend multicooker from the Stadler Form Chef One 909/919/929 range (for 4/5/3 liters, respectively).
And also the new Panasonic model.
These are the highest quality in materials, assembly and multicooker modes.
If there is no pursuit of a brand and there is no task to fry too much, then take Stadler (it is also called Swizz Style and with the same numbers 909, 919, 929, but for some reason it is cheaper).
Amazing bowl and quality. Go to an electronics store or center and watch these MVs live.
Threat about Redmond forget, or rather about the M-90 for sure. I myself had one, I do not advise anyone. Although their small 1.6L and 2L multeches are very good, but we have them in hand because of their small size.
Quote: Larssevsk

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=299016.0
- new Panasonic. Classics of the genre. With all the functions you are interested in and a very nice saucepan
thank you - I will definitely look at these models in the next hour and unsubscribe about them)

But here's the problem) if it's not difficult for anyone - you can answer my list of questions in a little more detail - I still can't figure it out myself = (
And with regards to the models that I gave (Polaris and Vissegraf) - are they worse / better than the ones you proposed?
Larssevsk
Girls, can you please tell me if I'm confusing or not that the cartoon Stadler Form Chef One is without a top steamer? If so, then people for whom the "steaming" function is important (and for parents LxLT is important), it is not very suitable. For example, I use the top steamer very actively. Although, undoubtedly, this multicooker is very decent.
I came across ceramic coating in two of my cartoons. Do not want anymore .
I gave one half a year later to the students in the hostel. In another, after 4 months, even the omelet began to stick. Devices from different manufacturers. Now, when choosing a multicooker, first of all I look at the bowl. Its quality is half the battle. In Panasonic and Stadler, cups are highly praised.
Slavutchanka
LxLT, I will answer some questions.

Teflon coating is better than ceramic. In ceramics, everything starts to stick after 3-6 months.
In addition to China, Korea - Cucco produces multi. But they are expensive.
Not a single cartoon smelled of plastic. I have 3 of them - Cucco 1054 (pressure cooker), Polaris 0520 and Vinis 5015 (with ceramics)
It's convenient for me with manual mode
In Polaris 0517 and 0519 ceramic bowls.
LxLT
Thank you!) I get it.
So I'll look for Teflon - I'll go study the models! means to pay attention to bowls and Teflon first of all. well, and probably do not forget about the functions that are important to parents.
Manna
Quote: Larssevsk

Girls, can you please tell me if I'm confusing or not that the cartoon Stadler Form Chef One is without a top steamer? If so, then people for whom the "steaming" function is important (and for parents LxLT is important), it is not very suitable. For example, I use the top steamer very actively. Although, undoubtedly, this multicooker is very decent.
Yes, Stadler has a bottom steamer. But how does this get in the way of steam cooking? The lower one is much more convenient, IMHO.
Larssevsk
Quote: manna

Yes, Stadler has a bottom steamer. But how does this get in the way of steam cooking? The lower one is in many ways more convenient, IMHO.

So I just don't know how to use it. I am very practical with two-story dishes (for example, meat at the bottom, and potatoes at the top, etc.), but I can't imagine how to do this with a lower steamer. This stops me from buying Stadler, although I have been looking at her for a long time
Manna
Laris, well, of course, with a lower steamer, a dish in a bowl + something for a couple in a basket cannot be done. But even large vegetables or puddings cannot be steamed with the upper basket. Each option has its advantages here.I don't know if baskets from other multicooker fit the Stadler bowl, but you can check. Then, with two steamers, you can cook manti in two floors
vernisag
I use a top steamer from the 501 brand, it fits like a native
Slavutchanka

I have a bottom plate in Cucco. I tried to put a basket from another multi - the lid does not close well.
irman
I also bought myself a top steamer from model 501, it fits perfectly.
Manna
Quote: vernisag

I use a top steamer from the 501 brand, it fits like a native
Quote: Irman

I also bought myself a top steamer from model 501.

Well, Laris, the steamer is not a problem ... you like the top, you like the bottom
Larssevsk
Quote: manna

Laris I don't know if baskets from other multicooker fit the Stadler bowl, but you can check. Then, with two steamers, you can cook manti in two floors

Mannochka, that's a good idea. We need to take our steamers and try on in the store
vernisag
Quote: Slavutchanka

I have a bottom plate in Cucco. I tried to put a basket from another multi - the lid does not close well.
Kuko is a pressure cooker, everything is more complicated there ...
Olga13
manna, I bow to you for the consultation!
Everything is very optimistic. Here are just a bowl ... I can't even imagine what it is - only on Thursday they will be on sale ... and there you still need to catch it Before that, we were in this retail chain Scarlett (no baked goods). So they were ground up in a moment. In ATB (the link was posted from the announcement of the sales of this trading network), prices are lower than those of other sellers. But the quality is often poor.
If an analogue of a bowl is found, is it better to buy a stainless steel or non-stick, for example, Teflon?
Olga13
: oops: I forgot to ask: what is a removable inner cover and how critical is its absence?
Luceria
In fact, this is the inner surface that is in maximum contact with the steam and splashes of food - this is what you cover the multicooker with from the inside.
From this part of the multicooker, you can often determine what was happening in the multicooker in one mode or another.
Everything that is evaporated in the multitel is deposited in the holes and on the inside of the non-removable cover.

For me personally, the removable inner lid is one of the determining factors when choosing a multicooker.
It can be unfastened and washed well under running water and detergent.
You will not wash a fixed one like that, you simply will not be able to pick up a part of the silicone gasket with a cloth, different grooves - recesses. Purely psychologically, I am under pressure from the fact that I cannot properly wash the lid. If you are more calm about this issue - consider models with non-removable covers absolutely problem-free. I probably have a purely psychological moment
Luceria
You can also buy a removable one and change the lids for different dishes: for example, for vegetables, stuffed cabbage - one lid, for milk and pastries - the second.
Often the silicone pad absorbs odors, some of which are transferred to subsequent dishes, so the removable lid is also very convenient from this side.
Nikasa
Girls, why are you so opposed to ceramic pots? On the contrary, I recommend only ceramics to all my friends! (I have both ceramics and non-stick coating).
I have ceramic for almost a year - brand 502, I wash it only with the hard side of a sponge - always! even after the compote)) And I have nothing to burn or stick to it !!! I like it a lot more than Teflon. That's when I wash this Teflon (from Redmond 02), I get nervous all the time, you touch it with a fingernail or a ring - that's it, a scratch ... And even from the silicone paddles, traces remain.
The bottom line is that for me the strength of the coating is more important than non-stickiness. So I'm only for ceramics, no teflon
Larssevsk
Nikasa, then you are lucky and you can be glad for you. Ceramic bowls suit me in everything except baked goods and casseroles. I am happy to cook porridge in a slow cooker with a ceramic saucepan and the result suits me completely.But you cannot erase words from a pestle. If in the first months I could not get enough of baking in a ceramic bowl, then after 4 months I simply cannot get it out of there. Again, this is also not a problem for those people who can afford to buy a new bowl every 4-6 months. We are updating the dishes. The taste and color, as they say ....
Nikasa
Larssevsk, maybe it was lucky, but not the first time, after the first baking I had to exchange it - the coating was defective. And so I often cook cottage cheese casseroles in it, the bottom - with butter and semolina, and then I just turn the saucepan over, the casserole easily falls out of there)) I hope it will at least last a year))
But here, yes, who likes something more ...
Taia
The teflon coating of pots is different. In my Dex, you won't scratch the coating with your fingernail, and in general you really need to try to scratch something there, only if you probably need a nail.
And if the coating slides off the silicone spatula, then this is.
There are a lot of bad reviews about ceramic pots from multicooker, I would not dare to recommend it to my friends for shopping. If only from one, trusted manufacturer by me.
Manna
Quote: Nikasa

Girls, why are you so opposed to ceramic pots? On the contrary, I recommend only ceramics to all my friends! (I have both ceramics and non-stick coating).
I have ceramic for almost a year - brand 502, I wash it only with the hard side of a sponge - always! even after the compote)) And I have nothing to burn or stick to it !!! I like it a lot more than Teflon. When I wash this Teflon one, I get nervous all the time, you touch it with a fingernail or a ring - that's it, a scratch ... And even from the silicone paddles, traces remain.
The bottom line is that for me the strength of the coating is more important than non-stickiness. So I'm only for ceramics, no teflon

Quote: Nikasa

I also often cook cottage cheese casseroles in it, the bottom - with butter and semolina, and then I just turn the saucepan over, the casserole easily falls out of there))
I am not against the "ceramic" coating. It just requires a different care than non-stick. Here I also warn about it. If you use such a coating as a non-stick coating, then the result will be obvious - everything will begin to stick to it.
Non-stick can also be different. The coating of the Japanese manufacturer Daikin is especially appreciated. It is especially persistent. Also, the Panasonic diamond fluoride non-stick coating is also quite durable.
And about baking ... a good non-stick coating does not require such dances with tambourines like semolina for butter, there it is enough to wipe (!) The bowl with vegetable oil, and "ceramic" requires butter, and even semolina
Manna
Quote: Olga13

If an analogue of a bowl is found, is it better to buy a stainless steel or non-stick, for example, Teflon?
Baking is best in a non-stick bowl. But again, you need to look at the quality of this coating. And stainless steel is eternal, but (!) Its thermal conductivity is lower than that of aluminum, the modes will work differently.
LxLT
OOOOO
Thanks to the Forum))
I almost chose a slow cooker))
Panasonic SR-MHS181WTQ
I liked it very much.
The price is great - with add. a year of guarantee - it costs 8.000 rubles.
It seems like an excellent multicooker. I read the topic on your forum - looked at the photo - he cooks well.

I haven't ordered it yet, I'm waiting for your advice - does this model have a competitor?
quality is what matters. Price up to 13 thousand rubles.
And to be durable. we are buying such a device for the first time, I would like it to serve for 5 years ..

And such a question - this model Panasonic SR-MHS181WTQ The coating is not ceramic, is it? And I didn't find something about Teflon. They have some kind of specific coating = A pan with a diamond-fluoride coating and a thickened double bottom - what does that mean?
Roza_Irina
The cover is gorgeous. The same as in a Panasonic bread maker, but it serves people for years. And if you read all the information about the Panasonic multicooker, then you will meet the saying that this is a problem-free or immortal Panasonic
And he is faster than his predecessors.
Manna
That is why the topic has grown to 300 pages, that no one wants to read at least the last 10 pages

I quote myself:
Quote: manna

4-5 thousand: Stadler Form Chef One for 5L and 4L (out of competition in touch modes and bowl), Brand 502 for 5L (without touch modes, 5-step manual mode, bowl with a "ceramic" coating).

6-7 thousand: Brand 37501 for 5L (if you can still find it).

7-8 thousand: Panasonic SR-MHS181 for 5L (two touch modes: pilaf and buckwheat, maximum temperature 130 ° C, bowl with a resistant coating).

Well, then the gap is up to 13-15 thousand.
Quote: manna

Non-stick can also be different. The coating of the Japanese manufacturer Daikin is especially appreciated. It is especially persistent. Also, the Panasonic diamond fluoride non-stick coating is also quite durable.
LxLT
Irina - thanks)) calmed down
But the reviews on the Yandex market - upset XD

"The multicooker was published relatively recently and I finally decided to buy it, and now I'm biting my elbows. The model disappointed with its incompleteness. Heating cannot be turned off in advance, not provided, just like in cheap budget models, baked goods, meat burn, I sin on the bowl , she was never famous with them, but excuse me, or a multicooker for 4-5 thousand rubles, which by the way is also not at all cheap or for 8 thousand rubles, the difference is noticeable, almost twice as expensive, but the quality of the bowl remains the same. I overpaid is not clear. Failed novelty "
I don’t understand what kind of review this is. it's true? or is it a paid review from competitors?
Manna
LxLT, do not read reviews on Yandex - they are custom-made.
The new Panasonic has two competitors - Brand 37501 and Stadler. But, since you won't find 37501 in the daytime with fire, then Stadler remains. The multicooker is excellent - a real competitor to the new Panasonic, and the price is lower (at least in Moscow).
LxLT
And here's another review about this model:
Disadvantages:
1. The heating function cannot be turned off in advance, only after the end of the main program, when this function has already been activated.
2. Does not show how long the dish has been in heating mode.
3. The display fogs up during operation.
4. The pan has no handles. to remove it from the MV you need tacks.
5. They smell bad of plastic. How long it takes for weathering is not yet known.
6. The model is new, you cannot buy a spare pot yet. You can order at an authorized service and wait for more than a month.
7. Awful recipe book. How to prepare simple, frequently consumed meals is not described. (Beef broth soup, semolina porridge, casserole). To learn how to use it, you need to spoil a lot of products. Of course, there are many recipes on the Internet. But we presented it to retirees who have never seen this Internet in their eyes.
8. The instructions do not say anywhere at what temperature this or that program is preparing. This is especially true for baked goods. Again, to get used to spoil a bunch of products.

I don't understand = (They write that on purpose. They discourage the desire to buy ... I just wanted to order ...
really there are no problem-free multicooker? and every year you need to run to buy new cups? ((
Roza_Irina
I read this review. The impression is that it was written by a man who had never seen this multicooker in his eyes. I had a previous Panasonic model, a bowl, well, like worse than the new one. For a year, it remained like a new one. And this one is even better. Nothing burns here, even if they left and suddenly forgot what they are fried, it still won't burn. I don’t know that I need to fry for about 5 hours.
LxLT
Quote: manna

LxLT, do not read reviews on Yandex - they are custom-made.
The new Panasonic has two competitors - Brand 37501 and Stadler. But, since you won't find 37501 in the daytime with fire, then Stadler remains. The multicooker is excellent - a real competitor to the new Panasonic, and the price is lower (at least in Moscow).
well, if it's really custom. then you can calm down)) and order
Stadler, I looked through all the models - I think if I can pull Panasonic, then why take Stadler? Moreover, I found a couple of advantages from Panasonic.
Manna
Quote: LxLT

I think if I can pull Panasonic, then why take Stadler?
Interesting logic But this is your choice, especially since you have found the advantages of Panasonic
Roza_Irina
The heating is really not switched off in advance.
The time spent on heating is shown in hours.
The display cannot fog up, it is under the glass, and the glass and the body are one piece, the glass is not glued.
There are no pens, but I don't see this as a problem. On the stove, pots, even with handles, often need potholders to remove.
It's not true about plastic at all. Panasonic's technique never smells like it. Packing foam yes. I never boiled any lemons, washed them with detergent and set them to cook.
The saucepan does not seem to need to be replaced yet in order to buy a spare one, and I think that it will not be needed, but it will appear on sale over time, it is sold to the previous models.
I didn't have a recipe book in my kit. The forum for Panasonic has the most recipes, and not only on the forum, hundreds of sites with its proven recipes.
Why do you need a temperature? Put the food in, press the button corresponding to the cooking process and let it cook.
Don't reinvent the wheel!

Here is the impression that you have not read the topics on the forum at all, but you have studied some kind of Yandex market.

Fuh, I'm tired of defending already poor Panasonic.
LxLT
Quote: manna

Interesting logic But this is your choice, especially since you have found the advantages of Panasonic
but you can ask why an interesting logic?)
It's just that Stadler only has 1 model for 5 liters. and it seems to have 3d heating - although I don't know what is the use of it. just don't understand the purpose of this function
But Panas has Plov + more programs and coverage of his own (excellent according to your reviews)

Or I misunderstood something) Tell me then, what are the disadvantages of Panasonic in front of Stadler - since I want to choose the "ideal" multicooker without disadvantages and defects.
LxLT
Quote: Roza_Irina

The heating is really not switched off in advance.
The time spent on heating is shown in hours.
The display cannot fog up, it is under the glass, and the glass and the body are one piece, the glass is not glued.
There are no pens, but I don't see this as a problem. On the stove, pots, even with handles, often need potholders to remove.
It's not true about plastic at all. Panasonic's technique never smells like it. Packing foam yes. I never boiled any lemons, washed them with detergent and set them to cook.
The saucepan does not seem to need to be replaced yet in order to buy a spare one and I think that it will not be needed, but it will appear on sale over time, it is on sale for the previous models.
I didn't have a recipe book in my kit. The forum for Panasonic has the most recipes, and not only on the forum, hundreds of sites with its proven recipes.
Why do you need a temperature? Put the food in, press the button corresponding to the cooking process and let it cook.
Don't reinvent the wheel!

Here is the impression that you have not read the topics on the forum at all, but you have studied some kind of Yandex market.

Fuh, I'm tired of defending already poor Panasonic.

heh. Thank you! I realized. Well, what should I read) I choose the same in the Yandex market) I recently came across your forum)
the fact that there is no recipe book is of course a minus, since the parents will use it, but then I will print out everything they need.
Roza_Irina
The recipe book was advertised for 25 recipes, I think. But the Ukrainian delivery simply did not have it. Here the main principle is to understand, the book will not be needed. I believe that Panasonic, like the Stadler, is the simplest multicooker, especially suitable for older people who find it difficult to understand the process of mastering technology.
LxLT
Quote: Roza_Irina

The recipe book was advertised for 25 recipes, I think. But the Ukrainian delivery simply did not have it. Here the main principle is to understand, the book will not be needed. I believe that Panasonic, like the Stadler, is the simplest multicooker, especially suitable for older people who find it difficult to understand the process of mastering technology.
hmm. and what do you mean by the word - the simplest? negative context or positive?
I just want the multicooker to be multifunctional, of high quality and durable.
Taia
IMHO.
There are no perfect multicooker. It is necessary to find a suitable one with a minimum number of disadvantages.
I don't have a recipe book either, I just didn't get it when I bought a multicooker. But somehow I never felt a special need for her.
For example, I never opened a book for a bread maker. I take everything from this forum, reap the fruits of other people's experiences.
Manna
Quote: LxLT

but you can ask why an interesting logic?)
Well ... just cheaper doesn't mean worse. Therefore, you do not always have to pay more to buy better. Something like this

Don't bother with 3-D heating at all. This means that there will be no excess condensation on the baked goods. And only.

Just because Stadler only has one 5 liter model doesn't mean he's bad. On the contrary, this is a great multicooker.
The fact that there is no "Pilaf" mode does not mean that it cannot be cooked in this slow cooker. The "Rice" and "Express" modes work in the same way as the "Pilaf" and "Buckwheat" modes - the algorithm is the same - complete evaporation of the liquid. And the modes "Milk Porridge" and "Risotto" work on the same principle as "Milk Porridge" in Panasonic, also sensory. Stadler's bowl is excellent, in no way inferior to Panasonic's. The pastries are wonderful. Frying ... well, frying is delicate ... the same as that of Panasonic ... In general, these multicooker are approximately equal in their functions and advantages. And the price is different

But again - the choice is yours, it is up to you to decide what is "ideal" for you
Yes, more ... it may be important for the choice ... There are no additional bowls for Panasonic yet, but for Stadler there are.
Roza_Irina
Quote: LxLT

hmm. and what do you mean by the word - the simplest? negative context or positive?
I just want the multicooker to be multifunctional, of high quality and durable.
The most positive one. If this is a pilaf button, then this is pilaf and you will get excellent results. And if buckwheat, then buckwheat. You would read about others, where they write that it is better to fry with cereals, and cook the soup with something else. This is where older people can't cope, and I wouldn't buy such a complicated device for myself.
LxLT
manna
Thank you - I finally figured it out))
I studied all the models on the Yandex market - and the best, as you suggested, were the 5 liter Stadler. and a new Panasonic.
but for some reason I still lean towards Panasonic - I love everything Asian. I especially adore the Japanese quality))
the difference in price is 1.700-2000 rubles. this is not critical, I think.

Roza_Irina
wonderful, thank you!

In general, having looked at the topics about these models, the soul lies more with Panasonic. I'll think about it before the evening - and I'll definitely make an order.
Thank you all for helping the inexperienced! Human thanks!
Manna
Quote: LxLT

but for some reason I still lean towards Panasonic - I love everything Asian. I especially adore the Japanese quality))
I won't upset you much if I say that Panasonic SR-MHS181WTQ is produced in the same way as Stadler in China?
LxLT
Quote: manna

I won't upset you much if I say that the Panasonic SR-MHS181WTQ is produced in the same way as Stadler in China?
I have been aware for a long time that everyone in China collects))
This I generally characterized the Japanese quality - yet I have a lot of their technique - and pah pah pah - works without failures.
Manna
Quote: LxLT

and pah pah pah - it works without failures.
Well, the main thing is that the soul lies
Larssevsk
LxLT, a great choice. Knowing the parents, they need to master it once and for a long time (judging by mine), and Panasonic will serve faithfully for a single year. And pots for them will definitely appear. Maybe I'm wrong again, but it seemed to me that in Panasonic the management is easier than in Stadler. This is also important for older people. Although I do not know how old your parents are. Maybe they are my age
LxLT
Quote: Larssevsk

LxLT, a great choice. Knowing the parents, they need to master it once and for a long time (judging by mine), and Panasonic will serve faithfully for a single year. And pots for them will definitely appear. Maybe I'm wrong again, but it seemed to me that in Panasonic the management is easier than in Stadler. This is also important for older people. Although I do not know how old your parents are. Maybe they are my age
Thank you)
they are already over 55 - I even stopped counting my age after 18: C life is pain.

I will take it in technosil - the store seems to be good (in the summer I took the monitor there - everything is ok)
the price itself = 7 959 True, I do not understand why it is cheaper there by 2,000 rubles than in the official Panasonic store or mvideo. Maybe they don't sell Rostest there? and if something happens, then the Panasonic service will not repair the Eurotest purchased goods?
what do you think?

price with a 10% discount - 7 163 + delivery 400 rubles
Now I also think - is it worth taking a guarantee from the store = + 1 year 900 rubles, + 2 years 1200 rubles.
Larssevsk
LxLT, I have never used the services of Technosila, although I know that these are companies for many, many years. I don't think the price you wrote is very low. Normal good price. If it would cost 4000, then one would have to think about why. And so, take it and rejoice. We've heard about the additional guarantee for a long time and that's it. I never buy it. We have the right to return the item within the warranty period without paying an additional warranty. This is extortion of money and nothing else.
Manna
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Snooze timer 24 hours
Maintaining temperature 24 hours
Canceling automatic heating
Program saving in case of power failure - 2 hours
Touch control
Rubberized body
Unique display design
The bowl is equipped with comfortable handles and Xpride ceramic coating
Bowl volume 5 liters
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Accessories:
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gala10
Quote: manna

Another Polaris - Polaris PMC 0519D, price 7 thousand (in M. Video)

Bowl equipped with comfortable handles and Xpride ceramic coating

The bowl is dishwasher safe
What kind of coverage is it? This, as I understand it, is better than the usual ceramic? With what?

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