Lozja
Quote: azaza

Then there is no point in this misalliance nyama. It's easier and better to take Phil right away for 700 with a penny.

I asked one at Kidstaf if it was available, he had it 700 UAH. I'm waiting for an answer.
Lozja
Quote: fronya40

I called there (in the subway). price 780 UAH

Let them use it for that kind of money. I never understood this swinishness - to increase the price just because there is nowhere else.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

I asked one at Kidstaf if it was available, he had it 700 UAH. I'm waiting for an answer.
I did not get that. 700 - Dex-50 or Phil-clone? Although what's the difference - you have to take it, today this is the cheapest offer.
Monica
Oksana, it's a pity that Deksyusha is not there.
I don't remember exactly where I read the reviews about Vinis when I was looking for the second cartoon, they were mostly negative.
A Polaris 512 do not want? A lot of people write about him well and can be found in the region of 700 gr.
irysska
And what kind of Phil have you seen enough, Ksyusha
Lozja
Quote: azaza

I did not get that. 700 - Dex-50 or Phil-clone? Although what's the difference - you have to take it, today this is the cheapest offer.

Quote: irysska

And what kind of Phil have you seen enough, Ksyusha

The one that Philips 3039 is an analogue of Dax 50, but with a saucepan, like the Brands. I think the saucepan will be problem-free, even if it gets leaky in a couple of years, it will be possible to buy from the Daxes instead.
Lozja
Girls, are Polaris sold in Ukraine? can't find it anywhere.

Irus, according to the first link there are small cartoons for 3 liters, also a cat in a poke, according to the second link Aurora, I really look like Orion outwardly, I'll go read about Aurora.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

The one that Philips 3039 is an analogue of Dax 50, but with a saucepan, like the Brands. I think the saucepan will be problem-free, even if it gets leaky in a couple of years, it will be possible to buy from the Daxes instead.
Oksan, then you need to take such Phil, who is 4 liters. Because they are for 4L. and 5L. And we will not be able to take a five-liter spare wheel of the Brandovskaya type, except with an opportunity from Moscow, and it will turn out to be very expensive. Or is the 3039 a 4-liter one? I can't figure out these Phillips - a bunch of numbers, although in reality there are only three models, but each is presented in two volumes. I have less memory than phillips variations
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Girls, are Polaris sold in Ukraine? can't find it anywhere.

Aurora is very much like Orion to me externally, I'll go read about Aurora.
Oksan, Polarisov's saucepan is terrible. Judging by my pressure cooker. I don't think they have a fundamentally different coverage in cartoons.

And Aurora is Orion, only under a different name. And Perfezka-58 is the same. And they all have identical problems. Rather, there is only one problem: a weak saucepan. And another difference in the menu. In Perfez, almost all programs are directly related to rice, it will take time to understand where what is. Or compose your own instruction, based on the experience of perfection girls. And in the Orion-authors the menu is in English, either in both, or in one of them. I don’t know how comfortable it will be for your girl’s mom to work with such a menu.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Oksan, then you need to take such Phil, who is 4 liters. Because they are for 4L. and 5L. And we will not be able to take a five-liter spare wheel of the Brandovskaya type, except with an opportunity from Moscow, and it will turn out to be very expensive. Or is the 3039 a 4-liter one? I can't figure out these Phillips - a bunch of numbers, although in reality there are only three models, but each is presented in two volumes. I have less memory than phillips variations

Tanya, they have a different 5-liter model.I'm talking about the analogue of Dax-50 - it cannot be of a different volume, because this is the same Dax, only the saucepan has been changed. Well, how will a 5-liter saucepan become in Dax-50? right, no way. We are talking about model 3039 - this is the same Dax-50, it is made in Chinese on the same machine, only the buttons are decorated.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

I'm talking about the analogue of Dax-50 - it cannot be of any other volume
Then let him take this Phil, and not toil about bullshit. Because everything else is a surrogate (forgive me the owners of the discussed multicooker). So, so that the programs are non-stumpy and all the most necessary, and a super-cool saucepan and, importantly, with the ability to purchase one more (or more) native super-saucepan for an inexpensive price - this is only Dex. Ugh, Phillips!
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Then let him take this Phil, and not toil about bullshit. Because everything else is a surrogate (forgive me the owners of the discussed multicooker). So, so that the programs are non-stumpy and all the most necessary, and a super-cool saucepan and, importantly, with the ability to purchase one more (or more) native super-saucepan for an inexpensive price - this is only Dex. Ugh, Phillips!

Well, if they are there for 700 UAH, although I have not yet discussed the possibility of such a price, because it was about 600 UAH of the budget. But if there is no 700 each, then the others will already have all 800 with the transfer. Too much.
azaza
Yes, 800 is a bit expensive for the same thing that cost 560 a month ago, or even cheaper.
But then it remains to wait for someone to test Shivaki. You will have to wait a long time for the current - once, the test result is unknown - two, and by that time the cartoons can significantly rise in price - three.
Honestly, Oksan, I don't even know what to advise, so that it is of high quality and cheap. If I took myself - would risk on Shivaki. But for someone, and even for a gift for mom ... But she also needs a clear menu, which means that the choice is even more narrowed. True, mothers are different. There are many mothers of us here, and many mothers are not so young - and nothing, we are perfectly mastering our assistants. So if there is a clear instruction (better homemade), no menu is scary for any mother.
There seem to be a lot of cartoons on the market, but it turns out that there is nothing to choose from. All that remains is to mourn 50. In time, however, you took a new one for yourself
Luysia
And now Delphi is such cheap steel ...
azaza
Quote: Luysia

And now Delphi is such cheap steel ...
Cheap, because these are not multicooker in the classical sense, but solid dances with tambourines.
rusja
Delphi, and was never particularly expensive, but in my opinion, only the dietary option will work - cereals, soups, stewing, languor, even if there is a full (in the understanding of DEKH) FRYING, then BAKERY, as such, is not there, in any case in their topic, not everyone succeeded
Lozya, maybe find out the priorities of that mother and if baking is not relevant, the dolph will pass for a sweet soul. For such a price, you can take 300-400 UAH, even for vocational guidance, it, by the way, can last longer, because usually hot programs "exhaust" the saucepan quickly, and everything is quietly modest there.
rusja
This is most likely a variant of the Comfort meter rice cooker (which was boomed a couple of years ago) than a full-fledged multi
fronya40
I went to look at mv phillips in comfy (the one that looks like a dex 50) - I was amazed by the price and the saucepan. the price is 999 UAH - and the bowl is so plump and beautiful, I have never seen so much harder!
I will wait for feedback. I am very interested in baking. my Orionchik began to indulge in something. As for Delphi, my employee bought it, but she does not eat fried and does not bake, she adores her.
Lozja
Don't even remind me of Delphi. You are welcome. I sold one such "miracle slow cooker", flew in at full cost, returned the money, since a person was waiting for something perfect-non-stumpy for 300 UAH, and I hadn't read anything about them at all before the sale. And they didn't ask me for advice, they just said - Give me Delphi. So she returned the money, since the person also took his mother as a gift and was terribly upset. And the multicooker was returned to me with a scratch on the saucepan, although I was assured that it was like new. So I had to give it to friends who do not have any multi at all.not even give, but simply give, for no reason. Well, do not throw it away. That's how I flew into these 300 hryvnias.
She immediately punished the girl - not to take Delphi.

Girls, Baking is important, if it was not important, they would take a pressure cooker, but they would not suffer. That's why I came here, I thought, maybe there are good, problem-free and inexpensive multi. It turns out that there are no such people.
fronya40
Lozya, and those who gave Delphu, what do they say?
Baking is very important to me too. Although I rarely do this, and I have a chic oven and an airfryer, but MV is a miracle with baking
Lozja
Quote: fronya40

Lozya, and those who gave Delphu, what do they say?
Baking is very important to me too. Although I rarely do this, and I have a chic oven and an airfryer, but MV is a miracle with baking

This is her husband's work colleague. At first he said that a slow cooker is a thing. Then a week later he told my husband that he would save up money and buy a normal cartoon, and he would bring this to work - to warm up the dinners. Then I asked him - well, how are you cooking? He said something vague, like - yes, you have to figure it out, look in the internet, what program cooks how ... In general, nothing is clear.
Vitalinka
Lozja , well, if you need baked goods and don't mind a pressure cooker, maybe check out Scarlett's pressure cooker. She has good programs and a good saucepan. I bought myself, I cook everything in it, I'm very happy. And the price is reasonable, I took it for 529 grams, well, now it's a little more expensive.
Lozja
Quote: Vitalinka

Lozja , well, if you need baked goods and don't mind a pressure cooker, maybe check out Scarlett's pressure cooker. She has good programs and a good saucepan. I bought myself, I cook everything in it, I'm very happy. And the price is reasonable, I took it for 529 grams, well, now it's a little more expensive.

And what, baking is just like in a slow cooker? That is, both your rolls and biscuits are excellent?
Lozja
Quote: Vitalinka

Oksana, look at your buns
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=177602.0

I don’t understand everything, are baked goods cooked in pressure cookers at normal pressure or at high pressure?
Vitalinka, are you getting biscuits? And cupcakes? Is everything baked and raised as it should?
Vitalinka
I don't know about others, but this one bakes without pressure. The valve may or may not be closed. There is a baking mode - 30 minutes, if it is not enough, then you can add time. You just need to adapt like everything else. I didn't bake the biscuit, as I usually need larger biscuits, but if I need to, I can try it tomorrow. And the rolls are baked perfectly, the finished dough is slightly heated, proofing and baking! That is, the baking mode is the same as in a regular multicooker, only the time is different everywhere - in Panasonic it is 1 hour, and in Dex it is 45 minutes, but here you can set from 30 to 50 minutes.
Vitalinka
I took from us through the online store.
Lozja
Quote: Vitalinka

I took from us through the online store.

Is it clear through which one?
Vitalinka
Trump, an online home appliance store.
Vitalinka
I looked through the price navigator now, everywhere they write it is out of stock
Manna
Quote: Lozja

I don’t understand everything, are baked goods cooked in pressure cookers at normal pressure or at high pressure?
Vitalinka, are you getting biscuits? And cupcakes? Is everything baked and raised as it should?
During testing of Brand 6050, the girls baked under pressure on the "Porridge" mode ... for 12 minutes, if I'm not mistaken. They said that it turns out even softer
Grypana
Quote: Vitalinka

I looked through the price navigator now, everywhere they write it is out of stock
Lozya, Oksanka - here is for 599 Scarlet for 380 UAH available
And they forgot about the Dex pressure cooker, does she not bake?
I bought a lot of things from this Internet store, including dressing myself.

And also in Aurora the programs are written in Russian in my opinion, there are 10 of them, in Orion - in English there are 12 of them. But baked goods here and there dream of a good saucepan.
Lozja
Grypana, I was so happy, I called this store, and there neither Dax 50 nor Scarlett's pressure cooker is available.

Dax's pressure cooker may bake, but no one dares to try. There are no programs there, just a mechanical timer for 30 minutes and two pressures and that's it. How to bake, so that the result is - no one knows.
Grypana
Oops, sorry, but they write there. Usually they do not indicate the price, if there is no product in the warehouse. I probably already sold everything to them, I sent the whole city there. In, the multicooker has gone! I didn't even expect.
Girls, and we have no topic on TV, very nuna
Manna
Quote: Grypana

Girls, and we have no topic on TV, very nuna
I saw only one about choosing a TV in the kitchen - vota
Pani Shtuchka
Good day, girls! First, let me tell you my admiration! What are you all here, mmm, straight words do not hate For a long time already walk, wander, once even asked advice, but basically I lead the lifestyle of "flies on the wall" - an invisible observer. But now the need has ripened to ask for advice again, well, in principle, it’s not a sin to live here. But this is a little later .. In the meantime, there is a multi-choice for a construction site - a house is being built, amenities are at zero, a two-burner plate .. Mom hangs there from time to time, but in mostly stepfather - he cooks wonderfully, but as the first multi something super-duper to be torn apart by men I would not want to give. And so, having Supra in my arsenal, having spent the whole day yesterday at the forum, I already salivated on Brand, who is not with a ceramic bowl, burgundy which, Orson and Stadler - how I will choose from them later - I don’t know, most likely I’m greedy about I mean, I'll take everything from greed and indecision ..
Well, in an attempt to choose from cheap ones, I ran into a dead end - Smile 1140, Scarlett SC-410, and maybe what else I did not take into account? really need, but that just an overpayment for nonsense .. Just don't drive me into the topic of microwaves, there only echo walks ... It's better just send to the store to a consultant, I will not be offended
Thank you
Oca
Quote: Pani Shtuchka

And there would be a simple microwave there, I myself have never had one, so I can't imagine what is really needed, but what is just an overpayment for nonsense.
I don't know about cheap multi ... I felt Scarlett and Polaris, somehow they told me because of the cover of the bowl as well. If she, in addition, spoils food or spits out porridge through the valve, then the men will completely lose the desire to cook something in her and you will be "to blame for everything." I would give them Supra, and I would take Brandik beautiful, red.
I have the simplest microwave: Ruby for 20 liters, I bought it in Auchan a little less than a year ago for 1450 rubles. She has sufficient power, a cupcake in a mug can bake in 3-4 minutes, a sausage from the freezer (-18C) for 50 seconds, heats a portion of 500 ml of soup in 2.5-4 minutes, depending on the ratio of broth and solid fractions
azaza
Little thing, welcome to the light of day from an ambush
About mikra: if you are solely warming up for the sake of, then take the most simple, clean with microwaves, without grills and other bells and whistles. But in no case take Samsung ME712BR!
About the multicooker. Or maybe buy a cherry Brand right away? Well, how can you kill him at a construction site? Unless the body is outwardly finished, so it can always be washed, and after the end of the construction, you will be happy to use Brandik in a new house. This is a wonderful multicooker! I have three multi, one of them is Dex-60, a complete analogue of Brand. And guess which of the cartoons works for me every day
But after the end of construction, I would advise you to take a closer look at the pressure cookers. On your list, this is Ourson. The cartoon tandem + pressure cooker will cover almost all your pot needs, you don't even have to buy a stove.
Rina
Quote: Pani Shtuchka

And also there would be a simple microwave, I myself never had one, so I can't imagine what is really needed, but what is just an overpayment for nonsense .. Just don't drive me into the topic of microwaves, there only echo walks ... Better just send it to the store to a consultant, I will not be offended
Thank you
I had a cool microwave from Panasonic - an inverter with an oven mode and a double boiler. The stove burned out.We decided that we would buy the simplest one - just for warming up. But for now (for half a year already) I quietly "forget" about it, because somehow I manage. I heat it up either on the stove or in the multicooker steamer basket. Yes, longer, but:
1. a place for a microwave is needed, but I use it better for a pressure or slow cooker,
2. There is a lot of discussion about the fact that vitamins are killed in the micron - you can believe it, you can not believe it. But the fact that pathogenic microorganisms are not killed is quite likely (I saw the British program that a cutting board is not sterilized in a microneum - they then poured soooo muck into a microbiological laboratory, horror!)

Quote: azaza

The cartoon tandem + pressure cooker will cover almost all your pot needs, you don't even have to buy a stove.
I'm already thinking about removing the full-size stove and replacing it with a cooking gas surface for two burners (after all, I prefer to fry on a normal fire, and sometimes the bird needs to be scorched) and a separate oven.
azaza
Quote: Rina

I'm already thinking about removing the full-size stove and replacing it with a cooking gas surface for two burners (after all, I prefer to fry on a normal fire, and sometimes the bird needs to be scorched) and a separate oven.
We covered the stove with a countertop. To be on the safe side, we made it removable, but we haven't taken it off yet, and I doubt we'll ever take it off. Unless I used the oven a couple of times during this time, and so everything is in cartoons and pressure cookers. The pans from my kitchen have disappeared as unnecessary: ​​it is too troublesome for them to remove the table from the stove. Instead, I get by with a pancake maker and a contact grill - there are omelettes, scrambled eggs, and pancakes, and cakes, and casseroles Well, of course, AG is one of the kings of my kitchen, there I have a lot of power

And I hung the mikra on the brackets, and identified the combine for it - it turned out very compact and functional. The harvester was placed on a sliding pad so that it could be easily pulled out from under the microscope if necessary. Without a backing, it clings great with suction cups, it is inconvenient to push it out.
Pani Shtuchka
Thank you, girls, for immediately responding. The idea of ​​giving the Supra and the microwave oven included - this is a combination that I did not have yesterday in my inflamed, honestly, brain. Although what I just didn’t add up yesterday, what moves I didn’t give birth to - I started with an airfryer, since it’s meat-eating with honor, then there was a mini-oven, a microwave oven with a grill, a slow cooker, a pressure cooker ... And all this in one day .. I fell asleep and what did I dream about? Can you guess? Oh, well, nivzhist, of course ...
They can make a saucepan, because they explain about silicone and nivkoemraz not with an iron spoon - well, yes, yeah, five times. earlier. If earlier an omelet with colored cuapust flew out of it in a sunny circle, now it is scrambling out, shamelessly sticking along the very middle. Although only silicone, and I do not notice any scratches. I don’t want to somehow give a reason to think that the cartoon is somehow imperfect.
Yesterday, half-delirious, staggering around all the branches - kamikaze, mlyn, - somewhere I caught the opinion that to start with a simple, cheap one, in order to understand the principle and if something is not a pity - a good idea. And although at half past one in the night I left with the determination to take Brand, I even have him in some store in a basket, at night I played not one good cartoon, but a cartoon probe plus a microwave oven.
Vooot, therefore, and raked with a question, maybe, as my mother says "from the city ... better", so that the heart does not pour blood from the first scratches on the saucepan, smart people will advise. I'm already inclined towards Smile, but maybe I don't know what, maybe he has a tendency to use foul language in the middle of cooking pilaf, huh?
Pani Shtuchka
Here's another new word appeared - a contact grill, so that I really ... this, I completely lost my mind. And yesterday I already looked into the grill pan, which is attached to the gas burner .. But I have gas in my apartment, and there is no gas in the house at all, and when will it be carried out and whether or not ..Therefore, all electrical appliances will be used, but not at once. And an airfryer can give a stepfather to NG, but in the meantime, to make it easier for them to live, quickly heat up the same sausages, cook pilaf or soup, fry the meat - for meat, I thought to start with an airfryer. And I'm so shaky that I'm ready to switch my brains to it again, as the first purchase. Brand with heating element, forgot the model number ... Oh, mommies, hold me seven. Just don't tear it apart ...
azaza
Pani Shtuchka, if Suprochka has already begun to grieve with a saucepan, there's nothing to think about: send her to the peasants at the construction site, and take Brand home. And after the end of the construction, decide what else you need to be happy.
lunova-moskalenko
Wasp, Mona, will I defend Scarlett? I bought it for my brother as a diabetic. and while he is still coming to me, I am actively testing her type. And I like her more and more. I even thought about healing it for myself. I really like milk and soups in it. Maybe, of course, due to the fact that in my Vesochka I was the first to shaman, while I figured out on which program to cook all this. But in Scartlet I immediately cooked calmly. I do not know how she will continue to work, but for a budget one for 350, she quite pulls at 5. And I bought it specifically for a man and a mother who is already 63 years old and she is after a stroke. I needed just one so that everything is laconically simple, and even if they ditch her with spoons, it would not be a pity for that money. Yes, and she does not spit porridge, why did you decide to spit a hundred?
Pani Shtuchka, you really should give Supra to the construction site and buy the simplest micra for warming up. I think this is quite enough for a construction site. And for yourself already look after a new cartoon. Something like that.
azaza
AH to a construction site? !! Doubtful choice. AG is an amazing device and I personally adore it. But it is not for the main food. If you have a gas stove at a construction site, then you can, of course, also AG. But you just don't have gas - that's it. And here are two for you - AH in a building under construction without the possibility of thorough washing, the men will give you to the state of His and under normal conditions it is not very convenient to wash, but only on the line ...
The multicooker will cover the needs of your peasants in good nutrition. They will have both the first and the second, and compote in addition. And they will indulge in fried meat after the end of construction - an excellent "gingerbread" for spurring them
azaza
Quote: nvk

I needed just one so that everything is laconically simple and even if they ditch her with spoons, then it would not be a pity for that money.
Nadyush, it seems like a Dex saucepan is perfect for Scarlett. So much for the solution to the problem. But alas, such a solution will not work for Pani Shtuchka: these saucepans are only in Ukr.
Pani Shtuchka
Yeah, that's exactly the problem of washing a glass flask with an enta that scared me away from AG, I remember yesterday's throwing Supra tempting, but I'm just such a person, I can't give yuzannoe, like I chewed - now you chew, remember with chewing gum in case of a deficit. But on the other hand, to produce multi - beautiful and different, given that then I will definitely take something wonderful like Brand and that which I listed earlier .. And we have a Russian stove there already ... But after all deviceaholism is the leitmotif of this forum, so ... Keep in mind, those who do not correspond with you here, but simply read on the sly, still pick up this disease for one or two ... I'll read it again, maybe I'll think of something ...

So, I remembered why Brand changed her mind now - they will have an update in the spring, supplemented and improved, somehow. In general, does anyone know Smile? Or is it a completely dark horse? Viscount, Scarlett and something else ...
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: azaza

Nadyush, it seems like a Dex saucepan is perfect for Scarlett. So much for the solution to the problem. But alas, such a solution will not work for Pani Shtuchka: these saucepans are only in Ukr.
WOW! Moreover, I fall even more in love with Scarlet, as in a budget cartoon.
Lozja
Quote: nvk

Wasp, Mona, will I defend Scarlett? I bought it for my brother as a diabetic. and while he is still coming to me, I am actively testing her type. And I like her more and more. I even thought about healing it for myself. I really like milk and soups in it. Maybe, of course, due to the fact that in my Vesochka I was the first to shaman, while I figured out on which program to cook all this. But in Scartlet I immediately cooked calmly. I do not know how she will continue to work, but for a budget one for 350, she quite pulls at 5. And I bought it specifically for a man and a mother who is already 63 years old and she is after a stroke. I needed just one so that everything is laconically simple and even if they ditch her with spoons, then it would not be a pity for that money. Yes, and she does not spit porridge, why did you decide to spit a hundred?
Pani Shtuchka, you really should give Supra to the construction site and buy the simplest micra for warming up. I think this is quite enough for a construction site. And for yourself already look after a new cartoon. Something like that.

Nadia, what is your model? And yet, are the pastries in it successful?

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