IRR
Quote: lga

Yes, her saucepan is thin! But this is even not bad - it warms up faster.

cools faster.

keep quiet
Luysia
Quote: IRR

So, in the queue, in the queue, we take all the Panasonic. We approach, do not hesitate.

IRR, do not touch Panasonic !! Many people here love him! And me too! And I love the drip tray.
IRR
Quote: Luysia

IRR, do not touch Panasonic !! Many people here love him!

and how I love him, even without having
Julia1708
here comes a message from the mail, uraaaa deksik finally arrived, though I will only see him in the evening, my husband will bring him in, now I will read recipes on the forum, and tomorrow we will prepare a thread
IRR
Quote: Luysia

IRR, do not touch Panasonic !! Many people here love him! And me too!

Do you love Brenda more? well answer, how well the spirit (the brand monitors us)

love him, but with a strange love? (from)
Luysia
Quote: IRR

Do you love Brenda more? well answer, how well the spirit (the brand monitors us)

love him, but with a strange love? (from)

I love them both very much! And they live in my kitchen on the table on both sides of the stove! But I like the slow cooker much less ... She lives in the closet.
Ikra
Quote: IRR

and how I love him, even without having

That's where we had to start. I made fish recently. I dripped a lemon onto a sponge and wiped the lid. She put down a biscuit. Nifiga does not smell. In Panasov's saucepan, my husband recently threw the forks with the teeth down (I have old, steel, sharp ones). If only henna him. Kitchen, sozh. does not stretch, but Panasik stood up like a native!
You’ll wait, instead of Italy (if we fly with visas and tickets to all the countries to which we still want to) we have planned ... Crimea. Here, out of sadistic motives, I will come to you to live with my Panasonic and my husband, who was a potter in girlhood ...
lega
Quote: Rita

Panas is good! ”Said Lga, having two more cartoons from other companies in stock! I also love Panas, but as a fallback. And I miss the drip tray in all modern cartoons. We got these dances with rags.

So I have a favorite Panasonic as the BASIC option. Marusya's saucepan flew out after a couple of months (it didn't get scratched, but it just began to stick to it) - that's why it stands in the closet and almost never gets out of there. I played with the pressure cooker only at the very beginning - well, without the need for it personally to me. I don't often cook jelly, and there is no time saving on the side dishes, just unnecessary noise. Stew and cook broth for me in Panas TASTY. Therefore, Binatosha is also in the closet. And if there is anything to fry, then in ANY MV or SV the bottom is not enough for me in size, so it's still a PLATE.
No, girls are all individual. I have Panasonic on the table, not in the closet and works more often than all other bells and whistles.
Quote: IRR

And even if you don’t lose it, it’s cool to wash it there like that ... just take your wand to pick the fish soup and start picking it there. Very addicting ...

DIPPER COLLERS !!!!!!!!! and wash it off a breeze! Rinsed and good! He's outside !!!
You can't do without a cotton swab! Squiggles on the sides without it, too, cannot normally be washed out (especially after fish).

Manna
Girls, I don’t understand. And what, after the fish, does the lid really smell? All summer I cook fish in all kinds of options in a small Cromax, and then there are porridge, and pilaf, and baked goods, and whatnot ... well, in general, all in one saucepan. The cover is not removable. I live in the country. You yourself understand how to wash / wash this very lid here. So I'm not particularly worried - I wipe it and that's it. Well, there are no smells. And I'm still a sniffer. Or maybe I was lucky with a silicone gasket, or freshly caught fish doesn't smell so much, or I don't even know what else
Ikra
I also feel fish very much ...As in ordinary saucepans I cook soup - my week, I rub, I boil it, everything smells to me. In Panas - nothing of the kind. I washed everything with a soft sponge with DMP liquid, the lid with a wet sponge, then with a lemon, and that's it. No, it doesn't smell to me ...
Julia1708
Hello, and yesterday I received a cartoon, uraaa, today I have already sentenced potatoes in it in a village style, and I don’t know why, but it burned a little to my saucepan, it didn’t even burn, but there was such a brown bottom (along the way, it grabbed the onion with butter) that did I do it wrong?
IRR
Quote: yulia1708

Hello, and yesterday I received a cartoon, uraaa, today I have already sentenced potatoes in it in a village style, and I don’t know why, but it burned a little to my saucepan, it didn’t even burn, but there was such a brown bottom (along the way, it grabbed the onion with butter) that did I do it wrong?

Julia! there is a theme for your model. You can ask questions

HERE
Julia1708
Quote: IRR

Julia! there is a theme for your model. You can ask questions

HERE
Thank you, I first wrote, and then I realized that probably not in the subject sorry
Grypana
Yulia, I don't remember where I read it, but the peasant potatoes are cooked in a cartoon and they still recommend stirring. Even in my Dex with a miracle pot, I still interfere.
lunova-moskalenko
Girls, I need advice! The son wants a new multivariate in the hostel. I have a choice on DEX. Only I can not decide which one he needs 50 or 60? He cooks milk, second courses, pilaf, rice and various cereals. He also wants to have pastries. What do you advise. He now has Perfeza 56. He sells it, but he wants something cooler for himself! I look forward to advice!
azaza
Nagy, from Dex with good milk - that's 60, no questions asked.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: azaza

Nagy, from Dex with good milk - that's 60, no questions asked.
And if milk is in second place, then she too. Damn, I don't have one yet, but buy your son!
azaza
Quote: nvk

And if milk is in second place, then she too. Damn, I don't have one yet, but buy your son!
Nadyusha, and you'd better hurry. They disappear at cosmic speed. And more expensive day by day. I bought - the price in the Internet store was 804 (but I bought for 720), and now it's already 940, or even 1000 somewhere I've met
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Rina

All the best for children!
What about mom?
Quote: azaza

Nadyusha, and you'd better hurry. They disappear at cosmic speed. And more expensive day by day. I bought - the price in the Internet store was 804 (but I bought for 720), and now it's already 940, or even 1000 somewhere I've met
Yes, I saw at a price of 860 UAH. Horror, but did my student deserve such a thing?
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: manna

nvk, is this for SUCH money in the COMMUNITY?
So this is the beloved son and the only one. He wants to, he cooks. He sells his own with a spare saucepan for UAH 700, why not buy a new one. There's just something to pay 200 UAH. And here you can save money by leaving a review.
rusja
It seems to me that 50 DEKHOVSKAYA is a universal, proven variation, it will not cook milk porridge all day long, and it is quite possible to get used to them there. On Wednesday, a neighbor for a gift for 570 UAH. I bought it in Cheaper. no - pickup
Manna
Quote: nvk

He sells his own with a spare saucepan for UAH 700, why not buy a new one. There's just something to pay 200 UAH.
AAAA! Well, in this situation, why not? Moreover, the man also cooks himself Yes, pralna, we must encourage
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: rusja

It seems to me that 50 DEKHOVSKAYA is a universal, proven variation, it will not cook milk porridge all day long, and it is quite possible to get used to them there. On Wednesday, a neighbor for a gift for 570 UAH. I bought it in Cheaper. no - pickup
Olya, that's exactly what milk is from time to time, according to your mood. The emphasis in his priorities is on baked goods and main dishes such as pilaf, meat, roast and other similar things. So I want to understand if he needs 60 or maybe 50 will cost? While thinking with him.
rusja
I have 50 for almost two years now and if everything is in perfect order with her, then I do not want to change it to 60, in principle I don’t want to. By the way, in one of the topics on DEKH, our Ksyusha-Lozya described in great detail the other day what she doesn't like in 60s after 50s. I think that the changes affected only the manual mode, and yogurt and a pier. porridge, it is quite replaceable by existing regimes. So, that I vote in favor of 50, it is more compact. And he will figure it out in Dehovedinia, buy a 60-ku or Liberty
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: rusja

I have 50 for almost two years now and if everything is in perfect order with her, then I do not want to change it to 60, in principle I don’t want to.By the way, in one of the topics on DEKH, our Ksyusha-Lozya described in great detail the other day what she doesn't like in 60s after 50s. I think that the changes affected only the manual mode, and yogurt and a pier. porridge, it is quite replaceable by existing regimes. So, that I vote in favor of 50, it is more compact. And he will figure it out in Dehovedinia, buy a 60-ku or Liberty
So if he figured out Perfez 56, then Lierti or another one is too tough for him for a long time. He bakes himself in Perfez, there is no special baking regime, as it was written here on crispy rice he dabbled in baking.
rusja
Quote: nvk

So if he figured out Perfez 56, then Lierti or another one is too tough for him for a long time. He bakes himself in Perfez on crispy rice and dabbles in pastries.

Well, God himself ordered him to buy Liberty, she's more for baking and deep-fried food than soups and other healthy food.
By the way, is it already on sale? Buy here and with IRRka you will be pioneers in baked delights
IRR
what is more? she cooks and stews and fries equally well. It's just that her shape is square, not every table has a place for it
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: IRR

what is more? she cooks and stews and fries equally well. It's just that her shape is square, not every table has a place for it
That's exactly what stopped me so far. There is nowhere to put it. And also a glass lid, it will suddenly ferment. Still a hostel. IRR, and she cooks soups well? And pilaf is interesting. I'm waiting for a call from the store, I ordered it for Sens, can she also tell her to arrange a check?
Catwoman
Quote: nvk

That's exactly what stopped me so far. There is nowhere to put it. And also a glass lid, it will suddenly ferment. Still a hostel. IRR, and she cooks soups well? And pilaf is interesting. I'm waiting for a call from the store, I ordered it for Sens, can she also tell her to arrange a check?

Girls, do not forget to tell us how Liberty will appear, we do not worry about a place on the table, in which case, we will put it on the stove!
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Catwoman

Girls, do not forget to tell us how Liberty will appear, we are not worried about a place on the table, in which case, we will put it on the stove!
It seems there is on Photos, but they don't call back. I wait until evening, go to another store. They seem to have appeared.
IRR
Nadia, she cooks gorgeous soups, dairy soups, including - I cooked there in the subject, but the lid is definitely not for the hostel.
Grypana
In Dex 50 I cook milk, bake rolls, muffins, casseroles, carcass, fry, the double boiler has 2 - lower and upper, and therefore duet dishes, bacon in the sleeve, etc. I did not try to cook yogurt in it, because there is another with this mode, but I read somewhere that the principle of cooking yogurt in the 50th model is the same as in Panas. For the hostel, the very thing, unkillable casserole!
Lozja
Quote: Grypana

In Dex 50 I cook milk, bake rolls, muffins, casseroles, carcasses, fry, the double boiler has 2 - lower and upper, and therefore duet dishes, bacon in the sleeve, etc. I did not try to cook yogurt in it, because there is another with this mode, but I read somewhere that the principle of cooking yogurt in the 50th model is the same as in Panas. For the hostel, the very thing, unkillable casserole!

+1, vote for 50. True, her stewing program is capricious, but not fatal, I cooked somehow for almost 2 years, and this did not prevent me from loving my 50 with tender love.
+ She's faster than 60. Which is important for a student, I think. It is easier and faster to cook 1 serving of cereals or pasta / dumplings in it. And baking is faster and the rolls are more aromatic. The student should like it.

I missed it, and what does not suit his current cartoon?
Julia V
I believe that everyone praises what they are used to. I have 60, and my friend has 50. I went to her once on a visit and she asked me to show what's what, the regimes. I'm somehow more understandable and more convenient at 60-ke.
Lozja
Quote: Julia V

I believe that everyone praises what they are used to. I have 60, and my friend has 50. I went to her once on a visit and she asked me to show what's what, the regimes. I'm somehow more understandable and more convenient at 60-ke.

The fact is that I have used both cartoons, and I can compare. But I do not deny that all this is purely subjective and depends on the individual taken.
It's not about control, it's about cooking results. And I am by no means saying that 60 is bad.
Julia V
Well, in my 50s I didn’t cook, I’ll ask this friend of mine, she uses 50s and 60s, which she likes best. Although I am sure that she will say that, in principle, 50 is much cheaper.
Lozja
Quote: Julia V

Well, in my 50s I didn’t cook, I’ll ask this friend of mine, she uses 50s and 60s, which she likes best. Although I am sure that she will say that, in principle, 50 is much cheaper.

So the fact of the matter is that they are not the same basic modes. I also thought that the whole difference is in the price and a couple of additional programs, but no. They are different in temperature and character.
Tanyusha azaza, most likely, will choose 60, she also had both. And I give my vote to 50, especially for a student and have already written why.
Although I do not deny some of the obvious advantages of the 60th model for me personally.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Lozja

+1, vote for 50. True, her stewing program is capricious, but not fatal, I cooked somehow for almost 2 years, and this did not prevent me from loving my 50 with tender love.
+ She's faster than 60. Which is important for a student, I think. It is easier and faster to cook 1 serving of cereals or pasta / dumplings in it. And baking is faster and the rolls are more aromatic. The student should like it.

I missed it, and what does not suit his current cartoon?
Oksana, and what kind of whims in extinguishing? This will be his frequent function. As for Perfeza’s unsettledness, it’s a little bit crap to bake there. And he loves all sorts of charlottes and biscuits. So he wants to have a cartoon with a normal baking function so that the shaman's dancing with a tambourine is not arranged. Thank you all for the advice! As for yogurt, most likely the function will not be in demand or once a month, then laziness will prevail.
Snusmumrik
Girls, tell me, pliz, what subcompact cartoons are now in Ukraine? Thank you in advance!
Lozja
Quote: nvk

Oksana, and what kind of whims in extinguishing? This will be his frequent function. As for Perfeza’s unsettledness, it’s a little bit crap to bake there. And he loves all sorts of charlottes and biscuits. So he wants to have a cartoon with a normal baking function so that the shaman's dancing with a tambourine is not arranged. Thank you all for the advice! As for yogurt, most likely the function will not be in demand or once a month, then laziness will prevail.

In 50 (I don’t know, maybe it’s just mine) Quenching can be cut out just like that in a couple of minutes after starting the program, and go to Heating. And it is not always the case in the insufficient amount of liquid, sometimes the liquid - heaps, the floor of the pan, and it - bam and in Heating. It happened infrequently, but it did happen. I've been using it for a month now, I didn't notice this at all, even without the liquid of mascara, all one is not cut down. We've played the program, apparently.
But I do not exclude that I just got such a cartoon - with a whim. Because in the last couple of weeks before it broke, it even cut out me while cooking soup, it turned out to be a launch
Grypana
No, no, no, Ksyusha, at the Extinguishing, my friend and I have cartoons (the same 50s) nothing is cut down in the heating. Seething in a small way. I make milk on the Stew, pumpkin gruel, and so on. And I also used my girlfriend to the cartoon (I went to give master classes), the mustache is normal. Now, of course, I'm looking closely, as I may not have noticed.
Lozja
Quote: Grypana

No, no, no, Ksyusha, at the Extinguishing, my friend and I have cartoons (the same 50s) nothing is cut down in the heating. Seething in a small way. I make milk on the Stew, pumpkin gruel, and so on. And I also used my girlfriend to the cartoon (I went to give master classes), the mustache is normal. Now, of course, I'm looking closely, as I may not have noticed.

This is not always the case with me, and not even often, but there have been overshoots. Or, I told you how I boiled milk all the time. 3 liters of milk, Stewing, after 25 minutes it boils and is cut down, by itself, with the lid open. It's good, I don't need it to boil longer, it's just not clear at all - why? What kind of algorithm? True, it didn't go out once, just when I went into the room and forgot about it ... That was a worldwide flood, and even the lid was open, everything went into the multi.

But all the same, it's good if I just had a buggy cartoon, because I'm again thinking of returning to the 50th model, I would like it without whims.
rusja
Extinguishing is also cut off for me, but it is extremely, extremely rare, Ksyusha, keep in mind that we have the very first multi, from the beginning of their release, maybe they removed this glitch when preparing new games
Lozja
Quote: rusja

I also cut down Quenching, but it is extremely, extremely rare, Ksyusha, keep in mind that we have the very first multi, from the beginning of their release, maybe they removed this glitch when releasing new parties

It would be just great.
Although it didn't bother me as much as, for example, a puddle of condensation on the roof of bread when it was baked in 60's. All the same, a double lid is not a plus in everything.
rusja
I have an eternal deluge on Stewing and other automatic programs, I am just happy that at least it does not drip on Baking-Fry, but why is it so
azaza
And I, having used 50 and 60, would not have returned to 50. For me, this is the pinnacle of multicooker progress. Not the top that cannot be surpassed, but the one above which in our market while still nobody jumped.
The Baking program has never disappointed me. It seems to me an undoubted advantage that the time for Baking and Stewing can be set from 20 minutes. Another important plus is that for a couple the countdown is from the moment the water boils, and not from the beginning of the program. Yogurt is not superfluous for me - I sit on it before baking bread. Handbrake ... I can't say that the most popular program, but it's not superfluous for me
However, even if the difference between 60 and 50 was only in the Milk porridge mode, I would take 60 without hesitation. Someone, perhaps, and in 50-ke porridge without problems, but I cook "wrong" porridge, terribly running everywhere. For the sake of porridge 50 had to drive all night long. Now I cook porridge in 40 minutes without sacrificing quality
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Although it didn't bother me as much as, for example, a puddle of condensation on the roof of bread when it was baked in 60's. All the same, a double lid is not a plus in everything.
About Hospydya! Ksan, do you have problems with condensation in 60s ?! I bake in it constantly - no puddles! The lid is (not always!) In a light-light perspiration (maximum for a couple of drops of condensate), but so that dripping onto the roof is not. Here on the handbrake - there, yes, digging, but by no means flooding.
So I said, I said: each cartoon has its own temper, which distinguishes it from brothers in reason models.
Lozja
So I said, it's all about different needs and the fact that we are all different. One thing is important to someone, to someone else. There can be no consensus.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

About Hospydya! Ksan, do you have problems with condensation in 60s ?! I bake in it constantly - no puddles! The lid is (not always!) In a light-light perspiration (maximum for a couple of drops of condensate), but so that dripping onto the roof is not. Here on the handbrake - there, yes, digging, but by no means flooding.
So I said, I said: each cartoon has its own temper, which distinguishes it from brothers in reason models.

No problems, only with the baking of rye bread. The lid is not dry enough, because it is double, and makes me a small puddle on the bread. And in general, the roof of bread in the 60s seemed to be steamed, or something, in the 50s it turned out drier, yes, without a crust on top, but not wet either. And on the buns I noticed the same thing, there were no puddles, but it didn’t get so hot on top as in 50. This is all purely subjective perception, I am not saying that this is the case for everyone. But I also don’t believe that every time I get multicooker with a condensation problem.
And on the rest of the programs - yes, everything is fine. Is that on the Handbrake 180 degrees everything flows on the roof, and so - buzzing.
Julia V
Quote: azaza

And I, having used 50 and 60, would not have returned to 50. For me, this is the pinnacle of multicooker progress. Not the top that cannot be surpassed, but the one above which in our market while still nobody jumped.
The Baking program has never disappointed me. It seems to me an undoubted advantage that the time for Baking and Stewing can be set from 20 minutes. Another important plus is that for a couple the countdown is from the moment the water boils, and not from the beginning of the program. Yogurt is not superfluous for me - I sit on it before baking bread. Handbrake ...I can't say that it is the most demanded program, but it is not superfluous for me
However, even if the difference between 60 and 50 was only in the Milk porridge mode, I would take 60 without hesitation. Someone, perhaps, and in 50-ke porridge without problems, but I cook "wrong" porridge, terribly running everywhere. 50 for the sake of porridge had to drive all night long. Now I cook porridge in 40 minutes without sacrificing quality
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