Natasha K
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Natasha, very neat and beautiful bread turned out to be a good start!
Thank you, I tried! You and the forum, in particular, teach well!
Irisis
Thanks for the recipe! This was my first bread and it turned out great!
anay130886
Hello, today we bought a bread maker, tried to bake bread according to your recipe for "simple white bread", put the ingredients in the right order, first dry, then wet, turned on, 4 hours after the signal I open, and there "this" did not rise, around the edges I didn’t blast the flour, I did it without scales, I measured it with the attached glass, I don’t know what’s wrong, tell me? I was so upset, I wanted to buy a bread machine for so long and now I bought it ...
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Hello, today we bought a bread maker, tried to bake bread according to your recipe for "simple white bread", put the ingredients in the right order, first dry, then wet, turned on, 4 hours after the signal I open, and there "this" did not rise, around the edges I didn’t blast the flour, I did it without scales, I measured it with the attached glass, I don’t know what’s wrong, tell me? I was so upset, I wanted to buy a bread machine for so long and now I bought it ...

We start from here acquaintance with bread in a x / oven Kolobok made of wheat flour (master class) https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=49808.0
The bread did not work out again, I did everything strictly according to the recipe. What can be wrong? https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=146942.0
Chita drita
Hello everyone. Tell me, what am I doing wrong? Why doesn't the crumb recover its shape when crumpled, but sticks together? I took the recipe from the instructions: milk bread, size M. I put on the bottom of the bowl one teaspoon without a slide of yeast, covered it with flour (I measured 400 g on the scales and sifted it), a teaspoon of salt, a tablespoon of sugar, 20 grams of butter. She poured 260 ml of milk on top (Piskarevskoye from a blue striped bag 2.5 percent), measured it in the measuring cup supplied with this model). I chose program one, size M, dark crust. With the crust, everything is fine, but inside it is like plasticine. Help!!!
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
Admin

If inside "like plasticine", perhaps for your test it was too much liquid. Track flour-liquid balance, see how to do it here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=83080.0 and here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=49808.0
AnastasiaK
Chita drita, I can see in your photo the trembling Saf-Levure, right? And it is recommended to dilute them in water, activate them before use and add them in liquid form. I myself have been using only them for a year now, without misfires, it always turns out excellently - both bread, and muffins, and pizza dough. This is one point. Second, try changing the flour, maybe it's not very good, in the sense of its baking qualities. And yet - how is the bun? Was it normal, without a skirt?
Chita drita
Thank you very much for the links, I went to study)).
Chita drita
Uraaa, it turned out! The proportions are the same. The yeast was diluted with water and added to the mixture along with the liquid. I also increased the baking time by 10 minutes. The result is a very light airy delicious bread. Only the crust crumbles very much
AnastasiaK
It's great what happened! Congratulations! If the bread is cold, you can put it in a bag, the crust will soften and will not crumble, and the bread will not get stale. Delicious bread!
Chita drita
Thank you!
Olex
Take me into your ranks. Already pulled out the first bread, it turned out to be tall, but it seems to me too fluffy. Looks like a bit too much yeast. took the largest size 600 flour and 2 tsp. drzh., It is probably necessary to reduce ... Here I see the smallest size -400 flour and 1 tsp drzh.
but here it turns out that either flour should be respected (?), or 1.5 should be taken dry ... The biggest tab is the total weight of a loaf of 950g.
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Take me into your ranks. Already pulled out the first bread, it turned out to be tall, but it seems to me too fluffy. Looks like a bit too much yeast. took the largest size 600 flour and 2 tsp. drzh., It is probably necessary to reduce ... Here I see the smallest size -400 flour and 1 tsp drzh.
but here it turns out that either flour should be respected (?), or 1.5 should be taken dry ... The biggest tab is the total weight of a loaf of 950g.

And if you look here? The amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0
Olex
Oh, thank you very much
Otherwise I follow the instructions, but here there is such a temka I went to study
TatyanaM
She became the owner of the Panasonik SD-2501 bread machine, the bread is delicious, but there is no rise and the top of the bread is even. Tell me what could be the reason?
Admin

What do you mean there is no rise?

Learning theory with practice CONTENTS OF THE SECTION "BASICS OF KNEADING AND BAKING" first of all MASTER CLASSES for Dough Mixing (BOLS)

If the dough does not rise:
- tough dough too
- check yeast activation How to test and activate yeast?
TatyanaM
everything is according to the recipe, the top of the bread turns out to be flat (flatness) and not very rosy. Unfortunately we could not upload photos.


Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 7:44 PM

Is it possible to bake with pressed yeast and how to calculate it?
Admin
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Is it possible to bake with pressed yeast and how to calculate it?

Can. Read here Conversion of dry yeast into wet, pressed (and vice versa)

And we sit tightly and for a long time in the section CONTENTS OF THE SECTION "BASICS OF KNEADING AND BAKING" all the answers to your questions are there
TatyanaM
Thank you.
irinafedina
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And we sit tightly and for a long time in the CONTENTS OF THE SECTION "BASES OF MIXING and BAKING" all the answers to your questions are there
Well, are you kidding me? I bought a bread maker to make my life easier, and not to delve into kneading issues. I have a job, schoolchildren, with whom I have to do homework for hours, I still have time to cook lunch and dinner. I don’t have time for all these "subtleties", and I certainly don’t have time to stand at the bread machine and watch the bun! Well, just a cry from the heart, I spent so much money, I'm very sorry, it's better to buy bread in the store. I would sell it, but I would not give up to anyone. I'll also try the dough for pies, maybe at least here she herself will give out something normal ...
Corsica
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very sorry
Irina, you didn’t get bread according to this recipe? To correct and clarify the difficulties that have arisen, it would be nice for you to post photos of your bread on the forum. Forum thread to help you How to insert a photo into your message (here you can practice) and working with the Gallery on the forum Photos for recipes.
Without a detailed story and a photo, it is difficult to guess about the reasons for your difficulties, as an option, the difference in flour, pay attention to the indication of the percentage of protein, or in the method of measuring the products to be poured, a measuring cup gives an approximate weight and it is better to use a scale. MK in photos on the basics of kneading wheat bread: Wheat flour gingerbread man (master class).
You may also find the topic useful Bread doesn't work in Panasonic and forum section Panasonic Bread Maker.
Wit
Irina, do not get excited. You have purchased a cool bread maker. It is the assistant. And all these sections are for gourmet experimenters who want to try everything. You need daily bread, just like me. At 23-00 I put in the necessary ingredients, turn it on and go to bed. I don't even postpone it. After 4 hours, I wake up from the amazing smell of freshly baked bread (or a push in the side), go to the kitchen, take out a hot bread, cover it with a towel and go to fill up. I bake bread on program 01. It was 7 years ago that I tried all sorts of recipes and delved into koloboks and mixes. For everyday bread, they are useless. Follow the link "I can't get bread in Panasonic" and in the section "Panasonic Bread Maker." Ilona ... Just read, there are interesting things in there. Or you don't have to go, and you will succeed.

I will add that the ingredients should be measured strictly by weights and measurements. Buy electronic scales. Try to use good proven flour, not just anything. I dissolve salt and sugar in advance in a measured amount of liquid (water or whey). The order of laying is as follows: At the bottom of the yeast (if pressed, then crumble) - flour (necessarily sifted through a sieve, not a sieve) - liquid - sunflower oil. ALL! We turn on and leave on business, the bread maker will do everything herself.
Good luck to you!
irinafedina
WitThank you, I will try different recipes, find my own and I will talk about it. The most important thing for me is to find a recipe for Russian black bread, because you cannot buy such bread in England. I, in fact, only bought a bread maker for him.
Wit
Then you definitely need to go to the forum section Bread maker Panasonic.... Click on the link that was offered to you Ilona... There they will definitely help you and, I think, they will not bother you with koloboks. And black is baked there for sure. We just love gray (350 grams of wheat + 50 grams of rye - this is a purely recipe for us). And there ... well, a very useful link!
irinafedina
VitalyThank you, I will definitely go as soon as the time appears.
fffuntic
Irina, you have London on your profile. I heard from some girls from England that you have to be able to buy suitable flour there and it happens, everything is even more complicated than here in Russia. Therefore, I will not completely reassure you that you bought a baker-housekeeper. You, perhaps, either still have to spend time and effort on theory and the stove, or quickly think about how to compensate for your material losses: you have English Avito there.
You actually have a wonderful oven with a million opportunities to make delicious bread. But you should reconsider your attitude towards it and find time to master the minimum of theory. Be ready to go shopping for baked goods.
If you still decide to make friends with the stove, go to the topic
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
and still study the Basics of Kolobok in HP. This is the primer of any HP owner.
Wheat flour gingerbread man (master class)
Gingerbread man made from wheat-rye flour (master class)
Simple and clear about rye dough
you have to imagine what is happening in your stove.
mamusi
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not very rosy
ABOUT! This is only the first time. The heating elements are developed - you will be ruddy!
(I always put average crust ... By the way)))

Irina,
Good luck with learning.
Do not worry, mastering goes "between times", everything will work out!).
And you will laugh at yourself inexperienced! Then.
Uitny
And I read all the above topics for 10 days and now "by eye" I already change the recipes, add-subtract and everything works out!
Most of all I like experiments with baking mode # 10 "French bread" 6 hours of course the oven works, but the result !!!
Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.
slightly corrected the recipe from the instructions - added 2 tbsp. tablespoons of wheat bran, a tablespoon of flax seeds and on the tip of a knife ascorbic acid. The taste is awesome! the crust is the most crunchy! I remembered Soviet childhood, cut it up warm, and my husband and I got away with it.
irinafedina - my first 4-5 loaves also caused disappointment in buying, then I read the forum inside and out, changed the flour (I need the highest grade, bakery, where there is a lot of gluten, if you have the opportunity to receive parcels from Russia - "Aleika" is good, Starooskolskaya). For real black bread you need malt, now you can buy it without any problems. The recipe is in the instructions "custard" (I really have a model 2512, but I think Panasonic's recipes are the same everywhere)
Bober_kover
Good daily bread, nothing extra)

Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.

Panasonic SD-2501. Plain white bread.

echeva
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on the tip of a knife ascorbic acid
Uitny, Natalia, what does ascorbic acid give? ordinary? pharmacy?
Uitny
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Uitny, Natalya, what does the ascorbic acid give? ordinary? pharmacy?
Yes, the usual pharmacy ascorbic acid in powder. She is an improver for yeast dough, the yeast works better with her, the bread comes out fluffier, softer, less dense or something (just do not overdo it, once I got completely airy). Try it in your favorite recipe that always works, add ascorbic acid on the tip of a knife and see the difference.On a large loaf, you can 2 times on the tip of a knife.
echeva
Natalia, thanks for the answer .. I will definitely buy and try it, I bake bread every day

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