Irina4ka
Quote: Dusya Tapkina

lemur, whatever you doubt, I will say that some of my friends have such a cartoon and they are very happy. I'm going to buy my mom for March 8 from a new batch. (if she does not require earlier) this is, of course, jambs, but for this there are service centers. But usually it is offended straps... since those for whom everything works and succeeds are silent.

Agree with you. Beginners usually run with questions)))
The multicooker is excellent, I have been using it for a month, I have not tried only yogurt from the modes. There are no complaints at all, the only thing is that the baking (charlotte) had to be done for a little over an hour, the middle was not baked, there was no heat ... In the mode, stewing potatoes with meat turns out amazing. I cooked the soup, everything I wanted, the meat is soft, there are no vegetables ... Pilaf with chicken is just super. I have never seen, when cooking on the stove, that the rice is so saturated and at the same time does not stick together into porridge. Morning porridge on the delay mode is convenient and tasty ...
There was no foreign smell at all! After making a stew with spices, it smelled like gum. I washed it, left the multicooker open - the smell disappeared.
But I don't understand, it turns out, I have an updated model, if I have 2 steamers and a recipe book? Or just a different package?
Darling
Irinochka, you have a model from the last batch where there are 2 steamers (upper and lower), a recipe book, and the heating element works more powerfully on baked goods (there is almost no condensation), and, probably, there is a serial number (on the box).
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Irina4ka

Agree with you. Beginners usually run with questions)))
The multicooker is excellent, I have been using it for a month, I have not tried only yogurt from the modes. There are no complaints at all, the only thing is that the baking (charlotte) had to be done for a little over an hour, the middle was not baked, there was no heat ... In the mode, stewing potatoes with meat turns out amazing. I cooked the soup, everything was as I wanted, the meat is soft, there are no vegetables ... Pilaf with chicken is just super. I have never seen, when cooking on the stove, that the rice is so saturated and at the same time does not stick together into porridge. Morning porridge on the delay mode is convenient and tasty ...
There was no foreign smell at all! After making a stew with spices, it smelled like gum. I washed it, left the multicooker open - the smell disappeared.
But I don't understand, it turns out, I have an updated model, if I have 2 steamers and a recipe book? Or just a different package?

Irina4ka, thanks for the good review.
The model is constantly being updated. So it's not hard to get confused
The model currently on sale with 2 steamers and a 200 recipe book is the latest modification.

The next generation will be called Brand502 and will be on sale in the second half of January 2013.
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Nasty

You also asked me to send me the serial number. But I can't find it either. You seem to be kidding me so. And for the rest, who here writes sarcastically about lemon. I boiled lemon many times - there is a smell. I have nowhere to go. I use it. Purchased on July 27, 2012. This is how I should be ?? There is no way to go to the service center. I already wrote that I have a baby - there is no one to leave.

Dear, Nasty
We are on this forum in order to help, not scoff. We ask for the serial number in order to understand that the review was left by a real buyer, and not a "sent Cossack" from competitors. And this, unfortunately, happens more and more often.

It is not at all a problem that you cannot find the serial number. May be torn off during transportation, may have been missed at the factory ...
Due to your lack of a serial number, our task does not change.We want and are ready to help you. Please tell me where you purchased the multicooker and what kind of help will be most convenient for you. Replacement, refund, or there are some other options that I do not see ... We will do everything in our power! It is better to dump the organization in which you bought the multicooker in a personal so that there is no advertising.
Vadim Solynin
Quote: lemur

found a review on the Internet about the 502 multicooker: The multicooker is a continuous drawback.
...

A very unusual, and most importantly questionable, way, Lemur, collect information for analysis, by copying this old, negative review here ...
yara
Quote: dopleta

which again confirms my suspicions:
Yeah, just a targeted attack
ARTy
I'll write my own few letters about the cartoon:
Acquired recently (last week) At the first turn on there was a pungent smell ... at the second - there was practically no ... at the third - there was none at all. The modes are great. Nothing burns and does not run away The valve does not dangle, it enters rather tightly.
Many multi-cookers have passed through my hands, about a dozen different models. What can I say specifically about this one: quite worthy ... There were doubts, knowing the Chinese quality, but after purchasing I realized that they were unfounded
Elena Br
Quote: Knesinka

Cooked chicken with apples last night. Everything worked out great. And after a few hours she began to put on the porridge with a delay. I put the food in the bowl, chose the program, time, pressed Start, and then it appeared - error E3. Several times for half an hour I tried to turn on the multicooker, but when I tried to select a program, an error immediately appeared. She left it overnight, hoping that she would suddenly change her mind. I specifically got up an hour early to start this unfortunate mess, but the error still appears after pressing the Start button. That's how sad everything is with me ...
And, by the way, we bought it in an online store, our warranty card is not filled out. Will they accept it at the service center?
It is a pity, but this error appears in cases of a malfunction in the upper temperature sensor circuit. The exact reason will be told by the service center master.
The warranty card had to be completed by the seller. In any case, if the service center refuses to carry out warranty repairs, write to us. We will intervene and settle all issues.
euge
I want to know what the baking temperature is. Claimed 120 * C. And according to some sources from the Internet in Panas 180 * C. Then why do Antonovka apples, taken from a tree on the same day, turn into mashed potatoes in Brand in 20 minutes, and in Panas they keep their shape for 40 minutes? And maybe longer: I didn't bring mashed potatoes to a state.
Shelena
In PANASONIKA, the temperature on the "BAKING" is not higher than 130. About the same was done in BRAND after complaints about baking. I think that apples behaved differently due to differences in algorithm operation of this mode. It is not for nothing that in BRANDA products are fried in "PIPE" much faster than in PANASONIKA.
Just keep this in mind when cooking.
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Scheherazade

Vadim, to the question of covering the bowl, for some reason I am sure that it is Teflon (or neoflon, there is no difference), reinforced with ceramic particles, maybe this is not bad, since the bowl does not have the main drawback of ceramic coatings - a quick loss of non-stick properties, like for example, a redmond ceramic bowl. You can guarantee that there is no PTFE in the bowl coating and is not used in the production of PTFA (it is clear that it is not in the finished product) - then your manufacturers were the only ones who managed to create a ceramic coating without any complaints. In the end, I'm not asking for a chemical formula, but consumers should have this information. I repeat once again, I have nothing against PTFE, it's just that ceramics are more environmentally friendly.
And somewhere else at the beginning of the topic, you promised to find out if such a heterogeneity in baking, like mine, is a marriage and a reason for returning, so that current buyers know what they are doing. You just have to balance on the line separating the under-baked top and the middle and the burning part of the bottom, and sometimes this line is unattainable.Now, when baking meat, for example, I drink more water, which is not always convenient. If the heat is small, this does not create problems, but my situation is a little annoying, although I am not a fan of returns, but my gas oven is terrible: wow: and there is no alternative.
I do not agree with the response in the message of the lemur, well, you are not that terrible mv. I have no complaints about other modes, the coating is very high quality, and I never wanted to cook instant cereals in mv, boiled it on the stove and you're done. The dough mode is great, I got up from a flat cake in an hour and came out a wonderful tall yeast bread with pieces of pumpkin, well, again, the bottom burned: girl_cray1: to a reinforced concrete crust in 1 hour.

Good evening, Scheherazade.
That is, as I understand it, you conclude that the bowl from the Brand 37502 multicooker is not ceramic, since it does not quickly lose its non-stick properties, as it happens with the Redmond bowl? It doesn’t even occur to me right away what to answer
Personally, distinguishing ceramics from non-ceramics, I judge by the chips, how the coating is chipped. It is even more accurate to say that the usual coating does not chip, but the ceramics does. I wish I could say that our manufacturers have succeeded in creating the perfect ceramic coating, but alas, I cannot. If we compare the non-stick properties of the ceramic bowl from 37502 and the bowl from 37501, then the loss of non-stick properties in the 37502 ceramic is faster than in the bowl from 37501. There have been no comparisons of our ceramics with the ceramics of the competitors' multicooker, so I can’t say anything about this.

About the non-uniformity of baking. This is not a marriage. I must say absolutely honestly that there are very few complaints on this issue. And if this question is important to you, let's try to change the heating element (for free), maybe this will help solve this problem.
Dusya Tapkina
In support of the above about chips, I am attaching a photo of my bowl that fell unsuccessfully.
Multicooker Brand 37502
now I cook yogurt in it, in a special container, like in a water bath. Or I steam it.
Ir_kiska
Hello!
Recently (since Saturday) I am also the owner of this multicooker. Here are my impressions: the smell from the bowl and the heating element was immediately after opening the package, according to the instructions, I washed the bowl with detergent and immediately set to cook the porridge (it's a pity that after I read the recommendations about boiling water with citric acid). The smell when turned on rose unpleasant for about 10 minutes, then passed. The porridge turned out to be crumbly. Then I cooked the soup, again for 5-10 minutes there was an unpleasant smell. Then another series of dishes, the smell still emanates. Today I read the recommendations to ignite the heating element in the "baking" mode, ignite it.
And all the same, it smells like the bowl itself (now it contains the smell of food) and the heating element (even when it is off). Ideally, I would like there to be no unpleasant odors at all. In general, I am at a loss. Wait until the "flavors" pass and will they pass at all?
And how harmful are these "aromas"? At home baby, these smells scare me.

P.S. I managed to cook wonderful yogurt, crumbly pilaf, stewed cabbage, everything worked out. But the curd casserole is burnt (maybe due to the fact that I was doing half a portion?).
Scheherazade
Vadim, thank you for such a prompt response. Yes, the issue of burning baking in one place is very important for me, say a little with such a defect, well, unlucky, well, at least the smell passed after the first run, otherwise I am very sensitive to odors, I could not cook. I would be grateful for the replacement of the heating element, only in Volgograd your service is unfortunately not, can you send it by mail with a video, I hope you pay postage? Well, or don’t know what other way out, I bought it at the end of October from your authorized dealer. I'm waiting for a signal, then I'll send my data. and another topical question: what is safe to lay on the bottom of the mv when baking - cooking paper, silicone mats, foil
Scheherazade
I forgot to ask how safe it is for the durability of the coating to cook in mv sauce with soy sauce and vinegar, my family loves Chinese chicken. I understand that acid and alkali are undesirable for ceramics? Well, it is undesirable to cook from frozen meat in order to preserve the coating?
Elena Br
Quote: Ir_kiska

... Ideally, I would like there to be no unpleasant odors at all. In general, I am at a loss. Wait until the "flavors" pass and will they pass at all?
And how harmful are these "aromas"? At home baby, these smells scare me.
P.S. I managed to cook wonderful yogurt, crumbly pilaf, stewed cabbage, everything worked out. But the curd casserole is burnt (maybe due to the fact that I was doing half a portion?).
We are working on the issue of eliminating the possibility of the appearance of foreign odors from the heating element. And I am sure that in the end we will succeed.
If after several cooked dishes the smell remains, then I can suggest that you change the heating element in the multicooker. Send me your coordinates in PM.

Quote: Scheherazade

Vadim, thank you for such a prompt response. Yes, the issue of burning baking in one place is very important for me, say a little with such a defect, well, unlucky, well, at least the smell passed after the first run, otherwise I am very sensitive to odors, I could not cook. I would be grateful for the replacement of the heating element, only in Volgograd your service is unfortunately not, can you send it by mail with a video, I hope you pay postage? Well, or don’t know what other way out, I bought it at the end of October from your authorized dealer. I'm waiting for a signal, then I'll send my data. and another topical question: what is safe to lay on the bottom of the mv when baking - cooking paper, silicone mats, foil
Why wait. Email me your coordinates and we will send you a heating element.
And on the bottom of the bowl when baking, you can lay special baking paper.
Scheherazade
Elena Br., I sent the data to you, I am waiting for the parcel, it's nice to do business with you, however, that's why I chose your company.
Alfa
Hello forum users! Today I received my long-awaited ultivar, chose for a long time and before her arrival I already loved her. The first thing I decided to cook was rice porridge. Simple, fast, everyone loves. I'm at a loss ... it turned out to be a milk soup, thin with harsh cereals. I did everything according to the recipe from the instructions. The soup is heated, I'm on the forum ...
Leska
Quote: Alfa

Hello forum users! Today I received my long-awaited ultivarka, chose for a long time and before her arrival I already loved her. The first thing I decided to cook was rice porridge. Simple, fast, everyone loves. I'm at a loss ... it turned out to be a milk soup, thin with harsh cereals. I did everything according to the recipe from the instructions. The soup is heated, I'm on the forum ...
Alfa, Congratulations . Or more precisely ... what rice, water-milk, program?
Darling
Rice is usually great to cook on the "Milk Porridge" program in a ratio of 1mult. Art: 5 mult. Art. liquids. Want to make it thicker 1: 4 - Although in my opinion 1: 5 is ideal for milk porridge
Do you cook with water + milk or just with milk ?, if water + milk, then it is advisable to add hot water
Elena Bo
I cook porridge 1 to 3.5. I love this very thick one.
For porridge, you need to take round, quickly boiling rice.
Knesinka
Quote: Alfa

I am at a loss ... it turned out to be a milk soup, thin with harsh cereals. I did everything according to the recipe from the instructions. The soup is heated, I'm on the forum ...

At the very beginning, I also got a liquid millet porridge. I left it on the languor for 20-30 minutes, it thickened, it was very tasty.
Nasty
Quote: Favorite

In July, the numbers were not yet available. Vadim wrote above that the numbers appeared in September and October. You just have to say who you bought the multicooker from.
Elena Br wrote about the smell from the heating element: In the "Baking" mode with the lid open, without the bowl !!!!! Bake the heating element for 15 minutes. Then ventilate the room. The smell should either completely disappear or become noticeably weaker. Good luck!
I ordered the multicooker through the Sezon online store. Before shopping, I asked Elena whether to take there, her answer was positive
Irdra
Girls, hello, tell me, can the bowl be washed in the dishwasher at 45 degrees? Or better not?
I am beautifull
Quote: Scheherazade

Today my charlotte rose very well, it was not like that in my gas oven, it’s delicious, but the bottom burned again, but I reduced the time to 50 minutes, it seems to me that the middle will not bake even less. I also made rice porridge as a side dish on the cereal, the bottom is also fried, and what to do, if you can reduce the time in other programs, then here, like, keep watch every time. The groats were laid down 1 to 1.
Maybe the bottom is not burnt, but the apples are just caramelized? It often happens to me. Because of this, the charlotte sticks and, if I take it out, it breaks. Try to pour some of the dough to the bottom, then the apples, then the rest of the dough.
Arka
Quote: Irdra

Girls, hello, tell me, can the bowl be washed in the dishwasher at 45 degrees? Or better not?
I wash my ceramic from Redmond in PMM (on intensive including) without any damage
and the brand's bowl will be stronger
Alfa
Quote: Favorite

Rice is usually great to cook on the "Milk Porridge" program in a ratio of 1mult. Art: 5 mult. Art. liquids. Want to make it thicker 1: 4 - Although in my opinion 1: 5 is ideal for milk porridge
Do you cook with water + milk or just with milk ?, if water + milk, then it is advisable to add hot water

Thank you, I will take into account the subtleties! Today I stewed meat with vegetables and mushrooms, it turned out fine. Please tell me how to cook a good porridge from oatmeal (whole grain).
Alfa
Quote: Elena Bo

I cook porridge 1 to 3.5. I love this very thick one.
For porridge, you need to take round, quickly boiling rice.

I also think first of all to change the rice (although it was round, not steamed). I did not have enough viscosity in the porridge. Thank you for your feedback !!! Share your favorite recipe!
SchuMakher
Quote: Alfa

Share your favorite recipe!

what is the recipe?
Alfa
Another question is ripe. Please tell me what kind of gray item in the kit he wrote to me. The two of us sat wondering where to attach it, it doesn't fit anywhere! Still interesting in the lid under the removable plastic also a heating element?
Alfa
Quote: ShuMakher

what is the recipe?
A recipe for a dish cooked in a multivariate that turns out to be delicious for you and is suitable for a daily menu (lunch, dinner). With thanks
Shelena
Quote: Alfa

Please tell me what kind of gray item in the kit he wrote to me. The two of us sat wondering where to attach it, it doesn't fit anywhere!
Alfa, I suspect that the "gray object" is the holder for the ladle and spoon. Mounted on the left side of the case.
SchuMakher
Quote: Alfa

A recipe for a dish cooked in a multivariate that turns out to be delicious for you and is suitable for a daily menu (lunch, dinner). With thanks

oh, yes, their sea Fried chicken, potatoes on "pilaf", any cereal side dishes, stewed cabbage (with meat or sausages), pasta, lazy cabbage rolls .... Enter the site table of contents and you will be pleasantly surprised THOUSAND HERE
I am beautifull
Quote: Shelena

Alfa, I suspect that the "gray object" is the holder for the ladle and spoon. Mounted on the left side of the case.
Yeah, I wondered what it was for a month, I almost threw it away.
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Alfa

.. Still interesting in the lid under the removable plastic also heating element?

Yes, there is a heating element in the lid.
Alfa
Quote: Shelena

What a patient you are !!! They would ask right away. There are so many advisers and assistants here.
The main thing is quick! Thanks to all! I’m already bolder, for the third time tonight I “started” her.
Shelena
Quote: Alfa

I’m already bolder, for the third time tonight I “started” her.
This is great! Treat the multicooker like a saucepan, only smart.

What kind of dishes to cook?
I would start experimenting with the EXTINGUISHING mode. It is most like cooking in a roaster in the oven. It's hard to spoil something. :) Only add a little liquid. Any product ratio.And, if in doubt, look inside (stir, add salt, etc.), and you will feel calmer, and nothing will be done to the dish (which cannot be said about automatic modes and "BAKING"). Good luck!
Scheherazade
Girls, somebody checked the boiling yogurt regime, poured 1 liter of milk from the refrigerator, an hour passed !!! mv does not make sounds, the start button does not blink, and this is already 2 times like this, the first time 1.7 liters an hour has passed, I thought I missed the signal, today I was on special guard. When the milk looked very hot and the pan too, I turned off everything, I don’t understand anything, the instructions say a liter boils in 15 minutes. I just wanted to boil milk
Shelena
Quote: Irdra

Girls, .. tell me, can you wash the bowl in the dishwasher at 45 degrees? Or better not?
Irdra, somewhere in the subject they wrote that you can wash, but external the coating changes color.
Therefore, having 2 pots, I still do not risk it (I already ruined the frying pan like this once).

Scheherazade, try to boil the milk without closing the lid. It will be immediately clear whether it was boiling or not. After an hour, my milk was also hot enough with the lid closed.
Manna
Quote: Scheherazade

the first time 1.7 liters an hour passed, I thought I missed the signal, today I was on special guard. When the milk looked very hot and the pan too, I turned off everything, I don’t understand anything, the instructions say a liter boils in 15 minutes. I just wanted to boil milk
As I understand this program, the signal is only when the milk temperature reaches 40aboutC (i.e., it cools down after boiling). And at the moment of boiling, there is no signal. Why is he in this mode?
Chanterelle
Girls, pamper your men with a whole baked chicken, and post a photo, pliz, here ... I'd like to see how competitive it is with an oven chicken
I saw that someone had already laid out ... but to be honest, somehow it is not very clear there ...
And for beloved men, and for the benefit body business ....
SchuMakher
Quote: Chanterelle

Girls, pamper your men with a whole baked chicken, and post a photo, pliz, here ... I'd like to see how competitive it is with an oven chicken
I saw that someone had already laid out ... but to be honest, somehow it is not very clear there ...
And for beloved men, and for the benefit body business ....

I laid out HERE SHE IS... I think the photo is quite real ...
Scheherazade
Thanks to Shelena, manna, I understood why I thought there should be a beep after boiling, otherwise how to know when to open the lid for cooling. So you need to boil with the lid open
Shelena
Quote: Scheherazade

So you need to boil with the lid open
Or open immediately after boiling (15 minutes after the start of the program).
Irdra
Quote: Shelena

Irdra, somewhere in the subject they wrote that you can wash, but external the coating changes color.
Therefore, having 2 pots, I still do not risk it (I already ruined the frying pan like this once).
I also have two bowls, there was not enough space in the dishwasher today, now, after your words, I somehow changed my mind ...
Manna
Quote: Scheherazade

So you need to boil with the lid open
If you boil with the lid open, the milk may "escape", since the temperature sensor may not work correctly with the lid open, and the temperature will continue to rise.

Quote: Shelena

Or open immediately after boiling (15 minutes after the start of the program).
I support
Chanterelle
Quote: ShuMakher

I laid out HERE SHE IS... I think the photo is quite real ...
that's about this photo, I said that it is not very clear .... it seems that she is ruddy only because of the color of the spices ..... or is it a ruddy crust from baking ???
SchuMakher
It, of course, does not work right with such a crust as in the grill, but the crust and ruddy are present, and most importantly, in contrast to grilled chicken, it turns out to be very juicy and dry. Don't like my photoSEE HERE... Panas is less powerful than Brandik, so judge for yourself .... If you want a more pronounced crust, put more time
Murrra
Good afternoon, evening, to all hostesses!

Can you please tell me, can you make sour cream in a cartoon?
I read somewhere that there is such a function, but in which cartoon, I don't remember.

Judging by the reviews, Brand 37502 works wonders.
SchuMakher
Try it on yoghurt, only the sourdough should be appropriate

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