Nevushka
If you focus on the appearance, then the golden coating is ECO-NanoPlex, but this is no longer a daikin ...
Manna
Quote: devl78

Teflon is the trade name for polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE-4)
Teflon is a DuPont trademark (the main manufacturer of this coating in the United States). They pledged to eliminate PFOA from production by 2015.

Quote: Nevushka

As for the pans, for example, I buy once a year an Ikeevskaya stack for 90r - there is obviously the cheapest coating, but it behaves much better than the pans purchased earlier at a price of 700-1000r. So, not everything depends on the price ..
I have been using GreenPan ceramic pans for about a year. The quality of this coating is orders of magnitude higher than PTFE and other cheaper ceramics. You don't even have to compare there. Before that I used pans with ceramic coating Titan. This coating is not very different from PTFE.
In any case, PTFE-coated pans must be replaced once a year. Apparently, the same rule applies to pots with a similar coating. Multicooker Brand 37501 By the way, titanium pans also suffered the same fate (though they "lived" for more than a year)Multicooker Brand 37501
So the coating is different.Multicooker Brand 37501
And if we talk about DAIKIN, then their coating has good characteristics, they even promise that it is environmentally friendly. Although ... how can PTFE be green?
Manna
Quote: Nevushka

If you focus on the appearance, then the golden coating is ECO-NanoPlex, but this is no longer a daikin ...
ECO-NanoPlex is a silicone-based non-stick coating from Röndell. Has nothing to do with DAIKIN. Anodized aluminum also acquires a golden color if its oxide layer is painted in the appropriate color, but this is no longer a non-stick coating. And I saw only black non-stick coating from DAIKIN. In general, a mystery. I think we are waiting for clarification from the manufacturerMulticooker Brand 37501
Zima
Quote: Nevushka

I think it’s a search for perfection, because until you try, you don’t know, so reviews are important to them.

Zima
As for the pans, for example, I buy once a year an Ikeevskaya stack for 90r - there is obviously the cheapest coating, but it behaves much better than the pans purchased earlier at a price of 700-1000r. So, not everything depends on the price ..


I just wanted to say that ceramics are more expensive anyway. Well, the search for perfection is our prerogative (that is, buyers). For the manufacturer and the seller, it is ideal when there are big sales and a good markup. And for this, the price of the product must be "in the market" and the price-quality ratio must be optimal.
Multicooker Brand just captivate with this, and most importantly, in my opinion, with a bowl of ceram. coating, which competitors do not have (YET). Many people now want to "move away" from the type of Teflon coating.
Manna
Quote: Zima

I just wanted to say that ceramics are more expensive anyway. Well, the search for perfection is our prerogative (that is, buyers). For a manufacturer and a seller, it is ideal when there are big sales and a good markup. And for this, the price of the product must be "in the market" and the price-quality ratio must be optimal.
Multicooker Brand just bribe with this, and most importantly, in my opinion, with a bowl of ceram. coating, which competitors do not have (YET). Many people now want to "move away" from the type of Teflon coating.
Ceramics are not always more expensive than PTFE. As I said above, there are ceramics that are similar in price to PTFE. But the fact that the Brand captivates with the presence of a ceramic coating on their pots is trueMulticooker Brand 37501
Zima
Quote: manna

Ceramics are not always more expensive than PTFE. As I said above, there are ceramics that are similar in price to PTFE. But the fact that the Brand captivates with the presence of a ceramic coating on their pots is trueMulticooker Brand 37501
Perhaps I am not an expert in the field of dishes.But let's think logically. Have you read somewhere negative user reviews about the coverage in the 37500 multicooker? I - no, although I read all the topics related to Brand multicookers on various sites that I could find. I read about burning on baked goods, about the fact that the program is turned off when frying food too. But all users are satisfied with the coverage. So why is the manufacturer abandoning ceramics in the new model? The first thing that comes to mind is the financial factor. I also look forward to the representatives' comments.
Manna
Quote: Zima

Have you read somewhere negative user reviews about the coverage in the 37500 multicooker?
Yes, in a friendly forum Siberian manufacturers of non-stick coatings were not very complimentary about the coating from Brand. Of course, perhaps this is such unfair competition. But there were still negative reviews.Multicooker Brand 37501

I'm not sure Brand is trying to keep costs down by covering the pots.

In any case, we are waiting for answers from the manufacturer itself.Multicooker Brand 37501
Zima
Quote: manna

Yes, in a friendly forum Siberian manufacturers of non-stick coating did not speak very flatteringly about the coating from Brand. Of course, perhaps this is such unfair competition. But there were still negative reviews.

I'm not sure Brand is trying to keep costs down by covering the pots.

In any case, we are waiting for answers from the manufacturer itself.Multicooker Brand 37501

So these are manufacturers, and I'm talking about users! I am also not happy with their coverage (I sent a cup of ten for recovery) (n) sorry for the off-top
Luysia
Quote: Zima

So these are manufacturers, and I'm talking about users! I am also not happy with their coverage (I sent a cup of ten for recovery) (n) sorry for the off-top

And I still did not dare to buy a new bowl from them, because I do not understand how the coating can be considered good if it cannot be wiped off with a napkin (the threads cling to the roughness)?
Manna
Quote: Zima

I'm not too keen on covering them either
Quote: Luysia

And I did not dare to buy a new cup from them.
In general, it is clear that we reject criticism of a competitor manufacturer.

But still ... the question remains: why did Brand cheat on its ceramic bowls?
Zima
Quote: Luysia

And I still did not dare to buy a new bowl from them, because I do not understand how the coating can be considered good if it cannot be wiped off with a napkin (the threads cling to the roughness)?
I can't cook purely psychologically with scratched Teflon. The choice was small: either a new one from the SC or restore. Still, the second option is cheaper. Brand did not yet sell spare bowls for Panas. Another would be to test it for the purity of the experiment. But I already took my mom to another city.
Nevushka
Quote: Luysia

And I still did not dare to buy a new bowl from them, because I do not understand how the coating can be considered good if it cannot be wiped off with a napkin (the threads cling to the roughness)?
Of course, clinging threads are too much, but the coating should not be perfectly smooth either.
Manna
Quote: Nevushka

the coating should not be perfectly smooth.
And why is that? Those pans I mentioned above have a really smooth (like enamel) surface. I just think that the surface should be as smooth as possible, and the presence of roughness is a sign of poor quality coating. I think that we will not find such flaws in Brand 37501 pots.Multicooker Brand 37501
Nevushka
manna, we misunderstood each other, I meant non-stick Teflon, in which perfect smoothness is usually a sign of a fake. And all sorts of ceramic, titanium are already different technologies.
Manna
Quote: Nevushka

non-stick teflon, usually perfect smoothness is a sign of a fake. And all sorts of ceramic, titanium are already different technologies.
Yes, of course, the ceramic coating is actually much smoother (maybe even "perfectly smooth") than PTFE. However, the PTFE coating should not have roughness; such a surface is more embossed (and at the same time smooth) than rough. I suppose you meant that? And the presence of roughness is a sign of poor quality coating (any, be it PTFE, ceramics, or whatever).That is why I say that I think that we will not see this (roughness) on the new Brand potsMulticooker Brand 37501
Manna
Regarding the regime "Languor". I study carefully the Brand 37501 manual. There are several recipes at the end for different modes. So ... for the" Simmer "mode there is a recipe for chicken in a country style:" Put chicken and potatoes in the pan of the multicooker. In a bowl, combine onions, garlic, peppers, tomatoes, wine and Italian seasoning. Pour the mixture into a saucepan. Cook on Simmer for 7 hours. "
Azimut
Quote: manna

I have been using GreenPan ceramic pans for about a year. The quality of this coating is orders of magnitude higher than PTFE and other cheaper ceramics. You don't even have to compare there. Before that I used pans with ceramic coating Titan. This coating is not very different from PTFE.
In any case, PTFE-coated pans must be replaced once a year. Apparently, the same rule applies to pots with a similar coating.

Greenpan is certainly better, especially if the bottom is at least 5-6mm thick (I saw it once for 2000 rubles versus 1200 for a 2.5-3mm bottom), and it is not afraid of overheating.

If you are talking about Titan from Neva-metal, then it is not afraid of scratches, in the sense that it does not burn if they are present, because of the multilayer and internal structure with depressions. In addition, Titanium differs from Teflon in that the production does not use toxic perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) - Titan has an aqueous solvent.
Azimut
Quote: manna

In general, it is clear that we reject criticism of a competitor manufacturer.

But still ... the question remains: why did Brand cheat on its ceramic bowls?

They complained that they burned a little.
Nevushka
Quote: Azimut

They complained that they burned a little.
Well, this may not be from ceramics, but from high temperatures ...
Azimut
Quote: Nevushka

Well, this may not be from ceramics, but from high temperatures ...

Yeah, but nothing should stick to a coating with good non-stick properties. It can fry, but it can not.
devl78
Quote: manna

Regarding the regime "Languor". I study carefully the Brand 37501 manual. There are several recipes at the end for different modes. So ... for the" Simmer "mode there is a recipe for chicken in a country style:" Put chicken and potatoes in the pan of the multicooker. In a bowl, combine onions, garlic, peppers, tomatoes, wine and Italian seasoning. Pour the mixture into a saucepan. Cook on Simmer for 7 hours. "
Who will agree to wait 7 hours for a chicken ???
Sister
Quote: nata9296

Sister, and why do you need a temperature of 30 degrees? I think, maybe I need it))
30 degrees is ideal for proving the dough, then you turn it on for baking and wait, the only thing you have to turn is if it's bread, since the crust does not brown on top, although this defect may have been eliminated in the new model, you need to ask the manufacturers.
In general, if you often work with yeast dough, then you need a mode if from time to time you can do without it
Sister
By the way, about the coating of the bowl, I was also interested in the new coating, I just did not think that the manufacturer would change the one that had proven itself so well in previous models
Nevushka
Quote: Sister

since the crust does not brown on top, although this defect may have been eliminated in the new model, you need to ask the manufacturers.
This is not a defect, but a design feature. When I leave it on the heating for a long time, the crust turns brown.
Sister
Quote: Nevushka

This is not a defect, but a design feature. When I leave it on the heating for a long time, the crust turns brown.
oh, it would be nice to transfer this feature to baking, otherwise the light top of the biscuit does not bother me very much, but the bread has to be turned over somehow strains a little.
I think if the manufacturer satisfies all our requests, it will probably be boring, although there is no limit to perfection.
Manna
Quote: devl78

Who will agree to wait 7 hours for a chicken ???
You can make bread in an hour or two, or, according to your grandmother's recipe, you can let it sit all night in sourdough, and in the morning knead, distance and bake.Will quick bread and grandma's be different? You can cook the chicken in 20 minutes, or you can simmer it for 7 hours in a mixture of herbs and spices. Do you think fast chicken and stew will be different?

Quote: Nevushka

Sister, everything will not work out - because everyone has different requests
That's for sure
Elena Br
Good day.
The Brand 37501 multicooker bowls use a non-stick coating made by Daikin. The tested sample showed excellent results in the resistance of the non-stick coating.
We will definitely discuss with the manufacturer the possibility of completing the Brand 37501 multicooker with ceramic-coated bowls.
Manna
Quote: Elena Br

Good day.
Brand 37501 multicooker bowls use a non-stick coating made by Whitford.
good day, Elena! Whitford has several types of non-stick coatings. What kind of bowls does Brand 37501 have?

And also interesting ... Vadim said that the coating of these bowls is from DAIKIN ... So ... what is the actual coating of Brand 37501 bowls? Or both: the outside is one, and the inside is another?Multicooker Brand 37501
Manna
Quote: Elena Br

Yes, yes, Vadim was right exactly Daikin. I will now correct in the previous post.
Is this SILKWARE® coating? Or something else? It's just that I have never seen a gold coating from Daikin ...
Ernimel
You can cook a chicken in 20 minutes, or you can simmer it for 7 hours in a mixture of herbs and spices. Do you think fast chicken and stew will be different?
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=136111.0
there is an opinion that it will be jellied meat with mashed potatoes, at such temperature figures. However, I am looking forward to the test results with a photo ...
May @
Tell me, has anyone already tested this multicooker and where can you read about it?
Luysia
May @, except for manufacturers, no one has tested yet, please be patient for about a month.
Manna
Quote: May @

Tell me, has anyone already tested this multicooker and where can you read about it?
These multicooker will go on sale in October, and testing will take place at the same time. You can read about the results here.
nata9296
Virgo, I've been hanging out here for a couple of days at a friendly forum on cartoons, where the bowls of sybovar this year will be made of stainless steel inside, outside there is lumin. and I'm thinking about a waste - cooking-park is normal, but how to fry - bake? - will the result be the same, or worse or better than in your own? I never had a stainless steel, we will move to a new apartment, then)))
PySy. And am I generally in the subject here or where else to go? ..
Azimut
Quote: devl78

Who will agree to wait 7 hours for a chicken ???

Apparently this mode imitates the "slow cooker" device or the simmering mode in the "Russian oven".
Manna
Quote: Azimut

Apparently this mode imitates the "slow cooker" device or the simmering mode in the "Russian oven".
And it does not imitate at all, as it raises the temperature higher and higherMulticooker Brand 37501
Manna
Quote: nata9296

There, bowls of sybovar this year will be made of stainless steel inside, luminous outside. and I’m thinking about the loss - cooking-park is normal, but how to fry - bake? - will the result be the same, or worse or better than in your own? I never had a stainless steel, we will move to a new apartment, then)))
PySy. And am I generally in the subject here or where else to go? ..
In general ... not the topicMulticooker Brand 37501 We are discussing Brand 37501 hereMulticooker Brand 37501 And about stainless steel dishes here here now it is being discussed about baking / frying in such dishes too.Multicooker Brand 37501
But about the sybovar there are not the most flattering reviews:
Quote: Zima

I, too, am not happy with their coverage (I sent a cup of ten for recovery)
Quote: Luysia

And I still did not dare to buy a new bowl from them, because I do not understand how the coating can be considered good if it cannot be wiped off with a napkin (the threads cling to the roughness)?
Azimut
Quote: nata9296

Virgo, I've been hanging out here for a couple of days at a friendly forum on cartoons, where the bowls of sybovar this year will be made of stainless steel inside, luminous outside. and I'm thinking about a waste - cooking-park is normal, but how to fry - bake?

Although I am not a virgin, I do not see the point in stainless steel, because:
- steel conducts heat worse than aluminum
- in stainless dishes with a multilayer bottom, burning is also possible, it is not for nothing that a non-stick layer is also made in it.

The result, the only plus - if there is no non-stick layer, it will be possible to scrape with spoons, forks and knives.
Of the minuses, the price of the bowl will be higher than the price of the multi itself.
devl78
Quote: Azimut

Apparently this mode imitates the "slow cooker" device or the simmering mode in the "Russian oven".
At the current pace of life, 7 hours per chicken is an unaffordable luxury!
Azimut
Quote: devl78

At the current pace of life, 7 hours per chicken is an unaffordable luxury!

Then buy a multicooker pressure cooker, the chicken will be ready in 15-20 minutes, and the jellied meat in 1.5 hours. And you will be happy.
Azimut
Quote: manna

And it does not imitate at all, as it raises the temperature higher and higherMulticooker Brand 37501

I do not understand, but then what does the cartoon do for 7 hours?
Sister
Quote: manna

Multicooker Brand 37501 Maybe jellied meatMulticooker Brand 37501 Here is another option for assigning the "Simmer" mode
I don't think it will be jellied meat, most likely it will be possible to eat the chicken along with the bones, so they will become soft

Still, I am sure that barley will be ideal in this mode, and all the legumes without locking them for the night, and probably also something like boiled pork can be made with a whole piece of meat.

oh girls, tell me the exact date when testing will begin, no strength to wait, I myself can not touch at least look and throw ideas.
Manna
Quote: Azimut

I do not understand, but then what does the cartoon do for 7 hours?
First it torments, and then extinguishes.

Quote: Sister

oh girls, tell me the exact date when testing will start, no strength to wait, I myself can not touch at least look and throw ideas.
We do not know the exact date yet, it is only said that in October, and in what dates ... I think only the customs knowsMulticooker Brand 37501
Ernimel
I don’t understand, but what then does the cartoon do for 7 hours
Firstly, not 7, but from 5 to 10, and secondly - above I gave the temperature figures, which were not refuted or commented on by my family representatives - therefore they are correct. Once again: 1h 45C >> 2h 65C >> 3 + h 85C >> last 2h - 95-98C.

What EXACTLY she does is difficult to say, but it certainly does not torment, in the usual sense of the word ...
Elena Br
Good day.
In the "Simmering" mode, products are stewed slowly, retaining all their useful properties. The operation of this mode is based on a gradual increase in temperature to 97 degrees over a long period of time. This method of cooking is very suitable for cooking legumes, very tough meat, it is especially good to cook game in the "Simmer" mode. The meat is tender and aromatic.
And how convenient it is to load food (even frozen) into the multicooker bowl, turn on the "Simmering" mode for about 8 hours and leave for work, and in the evening came and ... dinner is ready. Story.
Luysia
When testing the game I do not promise because:

1. I do not like game;
2. I don’t understand hunting as entertainment;
3. there are no familiar hunters.

Well, I think that this is not critical, since there are three more experimenters!
Nevushka
So, if the godfather doesn't go anywhere, I'll go to him to ask for game, he is a hunter ... I myself am far from the game as from rocketry, I think this mode can still be tried on pea porridge with smoked meats ...
Manna
Quote: Nevushka

I think this mode can still be tried on pea porridge with smoked meats ...
I already think that I will try the beans in this mode.
devl78
Quote: Azimut

Then buy a multicooker pressure cooker, the chicken will be ready in 15-20 minutes, and the jellied meat in 1.5 hours. And you will be happy.
I bought a regular slow cooker and the chicken is ready in 1 hour. And I am quite satisfied with this happiness 8) And all the other bells and whistles, such as languor, are for those who have nothing to do.
Nevushka
I would say this for those who know how to cook

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