Andreevna
If you have experience in baking in the oven, then you can also in the oven, just knead the dough first, form a bar or loaf, let it stand and bake in the oven at 180 *. Well, if you still want to bake in HP, then now put the dough on the table, crush it a little, form a bun and put the dough back into the HP. Let it rise for about 40 min-1 hour. You will see from the test that it should increase at least twice. Turn on HP. Press the PROGRAM button several times until BAKE is displayed. Press the TIMER button to bring the time to the required digit and press START. Everything. Wait.
Bobo
Testo uze 5 chasov otdixaet. : girl_red: Podnyalos Stavlu v panasonic na 55.
Spasibo !.
Bobo
You saved us! It was like this: The first bread two days ago turned out to be excellent. I put it at 9 pm at 10 o'clock. But I had to get up in the middle of the night to watch the kolobok. Fortunately, I woke up on time, added flour.
This time I decided to knead in the evening, and follow the kolobok not in the middle of the night, but it turned out that if the dough is programmed separately, then baking is then also in a separate mode - only time.
The dough stood all night, probably stopped. In the morning I set it to bake for 55 minutes, but I didn’t wake up to take out the bread and it sank badly. But it still turned out delicious. In the morning we all ate fresh, fragrant bread. Thank you for your prompt help.
There is no way out, just get up in the middle of the night to look after the kolobok
And how not to miss the batch ??
If I put on regular bread at 12 am to 7 am? What time will the batch be?
Confetti
Quote: Bobo

You saved us! It was like this: The first bread two days ago turned out to be excellent. I put it at 9 pm at 10 o'clock. But I had to get up in the middle of the night to watch the kolobok. Fortunately, I woke up on time, added flour.
This time I decided to knead in the evening, and follow the kolobok not in the middle of the night, but it turned out that if the dough was programmed separately, then baking was then also in a separate mode - only time.
The dough stood all night, probably stopped. In the morning I set it to bake for 55 minutes, but I didn’t wake up to take out the bread and it sank badly. But it still turned out delicious. In the morning we all ate fresh, fragrant bread. Thank you for your prompt help.
There is no way out, just get up in the middle of the night to look after the kolobok
And how not to miss the batch ??
If I put on regular bread at 12 am to 7 am? What time will the batch be?
As far as I understand (there is still little experience), they put proven recipes at night with a timer, so as not to look at the bun at night ...
sazalexter
Bobo
Confetti
For a very long time I have been baking on the "automatic" and at night, recipes from the forum, proven, there are no "punctures". Attached and forgot I put it at night and forgot, in the morning I remembered
mowgli
today for the first time I tried to make dumplings dough .. Pkao was making the filling, so that's the dough for you .. It’s hard to figure out how many glasses of flour to put without weights .. but it worked .. the dough is just great .. I dreamed so much that the dumplings dough would be kneaded by the oven .. this was the first reason why I took Panasonic ..
vladimirIl
We have a stove for ten days.
Finally, after an almost 40-year hiatus, my wife and I are again eating almost the bread we want.
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
On the left, this recipe is taken as a basis:
cake from page 14 of this topic
yeast 2.5 tsp
wheat flour 400 gr
salt 0.5 tsp
sugar 5 tbsp. l.
vanilla sugar - sachet
butter 2 tbsp. l.
eggs 3 pcs
milk 170 ml
raisins
mode: basic fast
The first times I baked strictly according to the recipe - I liked it
In the picture:
Fresh yeast - 12g
Wheat flour - 400g
Salt - 0.5 tsp.
Eggs - 3 pcs.
Sugar - 6 tbsp. l.
Vanilla - 1h l.
homemade butter - 4 tbsp. l
Raisins - 100 g.
Sour milk - 160ml
Mode 03 with raisins, medium size, medium crust
Eggs, curdled milk, butter and sugar beat together
During kneading, I had to add almost 2 tablespoons of flour
Replacing the milk from the bag with yogurt from the village, in my opinion, played a major role - the taste is amazing.
On right:
The basis:
dry yeast 2 tsp
wheat flour 390 gr.
rye flour 110 gr.
salt 1.5 tsp
sugar 1.5 tbsp. l.
sunflower oil 2 tbsp. l.
water 360 ml
Cooking method
* Mode Basic 4 hours XL size
Outplayed on:
fresh yeast - 8 gr
wheat flour - 400 gr.
rye flour 100 gr.
salt 1.5 tsp
sugar 1 tbsp. l.
homemade butter 2.5 tbsp. l.
Sour milk 360 ml
Sunflower seeds 40 gr
Cooking method
* Mode Basic Size XL crust medium

A couple of times, instead of tap water, baked at the spring water - the taste changes dramatically for the better, but the spring is far away, and the village with the cow is nearby, and the taste is even better.
vlamak
I bought a Panasonic 2501 bread baked well, but when I tried to bake the cake it failed, the debriefing showed that the dispenser had opened ahead of time and naturally got a tight piece of something incomprehensible. The whole problem is in the weak fixation of the dispenser, I pulled up the spring of the dispenser when I bake next time I will unsubscribe
for now, do not pour more than 80-90 grams into the dispenser, otherwise it may open spontaneously (very weak fixation)
Lucy
Thanks for the timely advice. I baked a cake the other day, but there were no dried fruits and nuts at hand, so I added homemade (country) cottage cheese. I didn’t expect such an amazing and unforgettable taste. Tomorrow I’m going to bake with nuts and candied fruits, and your warning is just in time!
Confetti
Quote: sazalexter

Bobo
Confetti
For a very long time I have been baking on the "automatic" and at night, recipes from the forum, proven, there are no "punctures". Attached and forgot I put it at night and forgot, I remembered in the morning
Today I set the timer for the first time .... in the morning I woke up, an unbaked lump !! I was upset .. I decided that I had done it with a timer ...... I set it a second time, I replaced the yeast ... I looked in an hour later, the result is the same .... there is no bucket .. .. akim makar, he was out of the bucket (my husband found him in the sink, washed and removed from sight ..) On the third attempt he got bread !!!
OlgaVlad
Quote: Lucy


Flour and sl. I hung oil on electronic scales, which, by the way, I bought yesterday in the same int. store, along with HP, following the advice of experienced bakers. They cost 330 rubles in total. A very handy thing, I want to tell everyone ..)))) I recommend getting them.
And what is this scale?
Rina
Quote: vlamak

I bought a Panasonic 2501 bread baked well, but when I tried to bake the cake it failed, the debriefing showed that the dispenser had opened ahead of time and naturally got a tight piece of something incomprehensible. The whole problem is in the weak fixation of the dispenser, I pulled the spring of the dispenser when I bake the next time I will unsubscribe
for now, do not pour more than 80-90 grams into the dispenser, otherwise it may open spontaneously (very weak fixation)

I don't think the dispenser is the problem. When did it open? If a tight piece is incomprehensible for something, then the most likely error is in the recipe, and not in the additives. The cake dough, by definition, should be very soft, even a bun may not form, rather, a jellyfish dome. And if dried fruits fall into the dough ahead of time, then in Panasonic they are simply grinded into a homogeneous mass, they will not take a lot of liquid on themselves. There is somewhere a picture in the kulich from Elena Bo, when dry cherries were added, and they were ground and the cake turned red with very small splashes.

When interfering with the construct (and what, are there any springs on the dispensers in the new stoves?), You risk that the dispenser just won't open. In general, see for yourself.

Quote: OlgaVlad

And what is this scale?
buy any electronic scales, best of all designed for 5 kg, with a step of 1 g.Then it becomes very convenient - put a bucket on the scales, reset to zero, gain weight products (taking 1 ml of water or milk for 1 g), and only salt and sugar with a spoon. By the way, over time, you can switch to grams for all products. Thanks to this, a minimum of dishes gets dirty, no accidents in the form of something poured into the bread maker (there was such a thing), no spilling of flour on the heating elements

But we must remember: no scales relieve us of the need to adjust the recipes for our products and our taste! Taste is our feelings, and bread dough is His Majesty Gingerbread Man
OlgaVlad
I was interested in the company of scales at such a price.
Rina
aaaaaaa ......
Nikolay_Alexandrovich
Quote: vlamak

for now, do not pour more than 80-90 grams of the dispenser into the dispenser, otherwise it may open spontaneously (very weak fixation)

I support, here's another person who unsubscribed on this issue.

I mentioned similar dispenser behavior earlier, I have a similar model, 2502.
Dispenser lid very poorly fixed, an empty dispenser can be easily opened with a slight upward wave, holding it <by the edges> in your hand ...

And the dispenser with a full load (120 g) of raisins, in general, strives to open at the slightest rustle. In my case, if I understood correctly, the raisin dispenser opened ahead of time at the moment the solenoid of another yeast dispenser was activated. There are several strong enough "blows", apparently from this he opened up.

vlamak , but is it possible to describe in more detail how this problem was solved?
The fact is that I realized that the problem was not in the spring, but in an unsuccessful (weak) plastic hook holding the metal cover of the dispenser. And, it seems, the only solution is to slightly bend the side of the lid, a little bit completely. So that it is better fixed on the toe ...

but when trying to bake a cake it failed, the debriefing showed that the dispenser had opened ahead of time and naturally got a tight piece of something incomprehensible

Well this is unlikely to be due to the dispenser, analyze the load / recipe.
A dispenser opened early, only leads to the fact that by the end of the batch the raisins will detail to some extent, that's all, IMHO. And it was obliged to mix it both with raisins and without.
Lucy
Quote: OlgaVlad

I was interested in the company of scales at such a price.
Kitchen scales Atlanta ATH-810 took a week ago here - 🔗, in the same place I bought a bread maker ... True, a week later the price fell by 160 rubles, and from two ovens - 320, this is just the cost of the scales (without 10 rubles)
vlamak
Thanks to everyone who did not remain indifferent to my topic about the dispenser.
I will say right away that the Receptor had nothing to do with it the second time that he had just closed the lid of the dispenser and all the raisins spilled out immediately inside. There is a spring-loaded latch on the side and it very weakly holds the dispenser tray. To bend the popovoda, I also came to the same conclusion, but for a start, in order not to spoil the product, try to glue a piece of foil from the side of the latch onto superglue
mowgli
Quote: vlamak

try to glue a piece of foil from the side of the latch onto superglue
mmmmmm, super glue and food ???? I wouldn't risk it ..
vlamak
The latch is on the opposite side and does not come into contact with food.
upiter
Good day!
I choose the first bread maker as a present for my mother ...
chose Panasonic SD-2501WTS
One trouble is the characteristics of the software of this device in various online stores are different and the price, respectively ... can it be that there are really different characteristics? The price ranges from 5500 to 8000r ...
Who has a similar model, please tell me the characteristics ...
lega
Quote: upiter

Good day!
I choose the first bread maker as a present for my mother ...
chose Panasonic SD-2501WTS
One trouble is the characteristics of the software of this device in various online stores are different and the price, respectively ... can it be that there are really different characteristics? The price ranges from 5500 to 8000r ...
Who has a similar model, please tell me the characteristics ...

It cannot be that the same HP model has different characteristics ... depending on the store ... It's just that the managers describe it differently ... the price always fluctuates (often very significantly), choose where it is cheaper .... the stoves will be absolutely the same ..
sazalexter
upiter At the beginning of the topic there is infa, here are the additions 🔗
upiter
Thanks for answers...
I ordered it, I'm waiting for delivery tomorrow ...
I will write about the first successes (or not successes) ...
Rina
Quote: upiter

Thanks for answers...
I ordered it, I'm waiting for delivery tomorrow ...
I will write about the first successes (or not successes) ...
so that there is no failure, we read the first post of this topic, we carefully study the baking manual and the kolobok rule, be sure to take into account that volume and weight are different things, at least we briefly study the instructions for the stove, we learn a little about the peculiarities of the Panasonic work

and we start with the simplest white wheat bread on the main program ... no exotic, no "quick" baking ...

and more ... a little patience, when the bread is baked, LET IT COOL!
aladushek
Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich

I support, here's another person who unsubscribed on this issue.

I mentioned similar dispenser behavior earlier, I have a similar model, 2502.
Dispenser lid very poorly fixed, an empty dispenser can be easily opened with a slight upward wave, holding it <by the edges> in your hand ...

And the dispenser with a full load (120 g) of raisins, in general, strives to open at the slightest rustle.
+1, sd2502 - the same nonsense with a dispenser.
OlgaVlad
Owners of Panas with a dispenser, tell me how raisins behave for example. Today in the store the seller said that the raisins in Panas in the dispenser heats up and sticks together. Then a lump appears in the dough. A little "dispersed" in the test, but still heaps. This is true?
mowgli
for me, a dispenser is a waste of money
Korata
OlgaVlad your seller is lying)))) nothing sticks together. We finely cut the cheese and smoked sausage. The fact is that it is added from it after 20 minutes. Heating does not yet occur at this time.
tat-63
does not stick at all
OlgaVlad
Quote: mowgli

for me, a dispenser is a waste of money
By and large, a bread maker is the same waste of money))) Bake in the oven and there are no problems
OlgaVlad
And how quickly and how much does the plastic turn yellow from heating?
aladushek
Quote: mowgli

for me, a dispenser is a waste of money
nothing like that, I have no idea how you can comfortably use a bread maker without a yeast dispenser? fell asleep the ingredients and forgot!
tat-63
I have an old stove for 1.5 years. Didn't turn yellow at all, like new
lega
Quote: OlgaVlad

And how quickly and how much does the plastic turn yellow from heating?

I have had HP for about two years now ... the plastic has turned yellow only in one place - in the back, where the lid is attached to the case ... it has turned yellow almost immediately ... it is not washed out ... but since only in one place and behind, then the view does not spoil, but I am not worried about this topic ..
Rina
Quote: lga

I have had HP for about two years now ... the plastic has turned yellow only in one place - in the back, where the lid is attached to the case ... it has turned yellow almost immediately ... it is not washed out ... but since only in one place and behind, then the view does not spoil, but I am not worried about this topic ..
similarly ....
olaola1
Quote: OlgaVlad

Owners of Panas with a dispenser, tell me how raisins behave for example. Today in the store the seller said that the raisins in Panas in the dispenser heats up and sticks together. Then a lump appears in the dough. A little "dispersed" in the test, but still heaps. This is true?
Raisins do not stick together if they are dry, but cheese can stick together, since there is still a slight heat from the engine during the kneading of the dough. In order not to stick together, you can roll cheese or raisins in flour, and then place them in a dispenser.
Rina
Quote: OlgaVlad

Owners of Panas with a dispenser, tell me how raisins behave for example. Today in the store the seller said that the raisins in Panas in the dispenser heats up and sticks together. Then a lump appears in the dough. A little "dispersed" in the test, but still heaps. This is true?
God, kaaaaaak we have smart sellers gone ... and when should the raisins heat up? at the time of kneading the dough? Or should it lie in the dispenser before baking?

for raisins, an old well-proven remedy is to roll in flour.That amount of flour will not be enough to change the consistency of the dough, and it will be easier for the raisins to spread over the dough.
Milada
Hello bakers!
Please tell me when to throw sesame seeds so that it remains on top of the bread in the form of a sprinkle in the Panasonic SD-2501 bread maker in Basic mode. And it also seems to me that the dispenser does not hold the contents well and there is a question - On the Basic mode with yum or Diet with raisins when it should "shoot", in how many minutes from the beginning or at what stage of baking-kneading-proofing.
Thanks for the advice.
vladimirIl
Quote: Milada

Hello bakers!
Please tell me when to throw sesame seeds so that it remains on top of the bread in the form of a sprinkle in the Panasonic SD-2501 bread maker in Basic mode. And it also seems to me that the dispenser does not hold the contents well and there is a question - On the Basic mode with yum or Diet with raisins when it should "shoot", in how many minutes from the beginning or at what stage of baking-kneading-proofing.
Thanks for the advice.
Today I had a shot at 52 minutes "On the Basic mode with raisins"

You can sprinkle about five minutes before the start of baking, but I sprinkle on ready-made bread.
As soon as I got it out of the stove - I smear it with egg white and sprinkle it right there - it dries up very quickly, so in one hand there is a brush, in the other sesame seeds, or, like today, coconut flakes + sesame residues + powdered sugar. Coconut (today is the first time), something does not want to stick - I will use the first option
:Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
The wife could not resist - grabbed a piece of hot: D
S_V
Dear caretakers - bakers. My experience is a little more than a week, the result is almost all the recipes from the accompanying book Everything turned out for 5+.
I want to learn how to bake bread with pressed yeast and cannot find on the forum how to do it correctly. Tell me, give me a link, teach step by step.
tat-63
The dispenser works after the first batch, grease the top with milk and sprinkle with whatever you want before baking
Rina
Quote: S_V

Dear caretakers - bakers. My experience is a little more than a week, the result is almost all the recipes from the accompanying book Everything turned out for 5+.
I want to learn how to bake bread with pressed yeast and cannot find on the forum how to do it correctly. Tell me, give me a link, teach step by step.

Here yeast topic

For Panasonic I tell you step by step the simplest option:

Calculation for pure wheat bread is 1.5-2 g of yeast per 100 g of flour.
Fresh high-quality yeast crumbles (those that have lost their freshness look like plasticine).
Break off a piece from the pressed yeast (7-8 g per 500 g flour).
Crumble the yeast to the bottom of the bucket.
On top of the yeast, flour, water, salt, sugar, oil.
Run the "Main" program

========================================
The option is a bit more complicated:
The required amount of yeast + 200 flour + 150 ml of water - start the "pizza" program, wait until the end of the first batch, reset the program. This is what we got the brew. Next, add the remaining amount of flour, water, salt, sugar and butter to the bucket, start the "main" program. You can do this right after kneading the dough, or you can do it after a few hours (by running the "main" programs with a delay of several hours), then you get a bread maker analog "White bread on a long dough".
Spring @
Dear bakers, good time of day to you.) I really want to join you, but I suffer with the choice of the Panasik model. Either 2501, or 2502. I'm more inclined to 2502. But I have already heard reviews of a frighteningly rattling and periodically stuck dispenser several times, and so I just can't decide on a purchase. Before that, there was never a bread machine and, accordingly, there is absolutely no experience in this matter. Happy owners of 2502, are you satisfied with your purchase? What do you advise?
Arka
I have had a stove with a dispenser for a year now. I have never used it yet. In rare cases of baking with filler, I fall asleep manually
OlgaVlad
Quote: Arka

I have had a stove with a dispenser for a year now. I have never used it yet. In rare cases of baking with filler, I fall asleep manually
Why? If More Arguments Possible
Spring @
Quote: Arka

I have had a stove with a dispenser for a year now. I have never used it yet.In rare cases of baking with filler, I fall asleep manually
What's the matter? ? Dispenser extra bells and whistles in HP?
Arka
I am sure that many use it, but there are also such lazy people as me ...
I rarely bake with fillers, and it is usually cheese or chocolate, and you cannot put them in a dispenser anyway - they will melt and stick. So I throw it in manually.
And then also wash it ...
As you can see, the dispenser is individual ...
But you still have to decide for yourself, no matter how much advice you listened to ..
OlgaVlad
Quote: Arka

I rarely bake with fillers, and it is usually cheese or chocolate, and you cannot put them in a dispenser anyway - they will melt and stick.
A couple of pages ago it was just written about the opposite, that is, nothing sticks together in the dispenser!
Arka
Quote: OlgaVlad

A couple of pages ago it was just written about the opposite, that is, nothing sticks together in the dispenser!
I follow the manufacturer's recommendation
Some are fried in HP and chickens ... https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=308.0
lega
I have a stove soon for two years ... I used the dispenser a couple of times ... here you need to look at your personal preferences and lifestyle .. The dispenser is probably very good if you often intend to bake bread with additives and on a timer (that is, in your absence) ... in my family my boys do not approve of all my experiments with bread ... Simple bread is always eaten, and "delights" are far from always ... that's why I don't use it ... that is, in vain I paid money for an unnecessary function in my family .. If there is no dispenser at all in HP, this does not mean that bread with additives cannot be baked ... you can manually throw it on a signal ... but then it will not be on a timer, but you must be present during the kneading .. In addition, the dispenser only opens itself, but you still need to close it manually ... you don't need to close it ... but again, unnecessary heat loss ...

Until you decide for yourself that for you more convenient ... and you won't know whether you need it or not ..

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