xomka
mowgli, I baked ordinary, dairy, from several types of flour and also egg - all recipes were according to the instructions, everything worked out great. the egg was most of all impressed, of course, so fragrant, somewhat reminiscent of the cake, and the most lush: I laid and put it on the smallest size M, so the bread almost got out of the bucket))
Waist70
Quote: Alxndr

There were specific advice somewhere on the forum. At one time they helped me, but, unfortunately, I cannot find ...

Read this topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=8567.0

In fact, you need to check:
1. The integrity of the packaging. Let them print everything out with you.
2. Completeness and condition of components (absence of scratches on the bucket and blade, generally).
3. The performance of the motor.
4. The efficiency of the ten.
The rest, you can check, only during operation.

Happy shopping!
the details of the check are called "the peculiarities of the operation of the PANASONIK bread makers" in great detail and intelligibly ... it may fit.
vladimirIl
Hello colleagues - I think now I can rightfully call you that.
Because on Friday I brought the stove:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Unpacked:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I carefully considered everything:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I opened and read the instructions, cheerfully prepared all the ingredients according to the top recipe, since they were all in the bins, except for dry yeast - the store is near the entrance - after 5 minutes the yeast was solemnly poured into the bottom of the bucket, followed by everything else:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

and turned on the stove .., after 4 hours he opened it, took out a bucket with contents (with CONTENT, because what was there, it was, frankly, difficult to call bread).
At the bottom, bashfully pressing against the right side, lay a ruddy cake and did not even pretend to be bread.
The wife, skeptically poked it with her finger, burned herself and, with a chuckle, swam to the TV.
I, remembering the first line of a once popular song:
- The first pancake is lumpy, -
and, looking at his watch, he began refueling again, but for the fast mode ...
I will not describe how these 2 hours passed, but when they passed, I began to sing the second line:
- Damn the second friend, -
and took out a bucket with the same, only near another wall.
My wife started talking about the fact that $ 250, when the crisis is playing with might and main outside the window, is a rather tangible loss for the family budget, and if this money had not been earned by me on the side, but taken from the same budget, then I should have knocked out a couple of teeth, so that I ate store bread and not show off ..,
because I have zero culinary skills, but I got into a baker.
... so I baked and threw away two loaves.
lega
Quote: vladimirIl


because I have zero culinary skills, but I got into a baker.
... so I baked and threw away two loaves.

I think that one should not despair at a failed experiment. You took a very good photo of the stove itself, and it would be better to have a photo of unsuccessful attempts ... Most likely the question is in the balance of flour and liquid ... Have you studied the kolobok rule? flour as measured by scales or glasses ..?
Questions about unsuccessful baking are best asked in the topic Help, nothing comes out !!! (Ambulance)
vladimirIl
Having washed the stove and tidied up the kitchen, I was getting along with my wife, but I was in disgrace banished to my room, out of sight and to straighten crooked hands.
I turned on the computer and asked Yandex what to do and how I could continue to live without bread, and so he told that there is such a site ""
I registered and read, read for a long time. My wife, going to bed, having already calmed down, advised and told how to test the yeast and, knowing that I would continue to bake anyway, showed where the fresh ones were in the refrigerator.
Just in case, having checked in the forum section about yeast, I threw links to my laptop and turned off the computer and moved to the kitchen.
I read from Admin how to check the yeast, kneaded my own and waited:
"4. this is what you see in the bowl after 10 minutes:
- a frothy cap made of seething-boiling yeast, which constantly turns into new craters, burst with pleasure, and again turn into craters, etc.
",
- not wait.
Cursing the Belarusian state trade, he took a pack of raw yeast from the refrigerator, checked it - these earned.
And by this time I was reading this topic on page 14:
Liana_F wrote:
Today I baked a cake according to the recipe:
yeast 2.5 tsp
wheat flour 400 gr
salt 0.5 tsp
sugar 5 tbsp. l.
vanilla sugar - sachet
butter 2 tbsp. l.
eggs 3 pcs
milk 170 ml
raisins
mode: basic fast
It turned out to be a wonderful, airy, tender cake


Since it was already the beginning of Saturday and I wanted to sleep, seduced by the fast mode, I decided that the cake for the weekend was just the right thing.
Again I measured and filled up everything, now according to the recipe of Liana F.
I turned on the stove, but now I already knew that there must be some kind of kolobok inside, somewhere. I opened the lid, looked - there was no kolobok, began to add flour
I poured for a long time, little by little, the batch was already over, but still there was no kolobok,

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I switched on the fast mode on a new one, again began to persuade the kolobok to behave according to the rules of the forum - I barely persuaded to become like an earlobe by the end of the batch, I did not dare to go to the bedroom to compare by another (chest) sign.
By the end of the lifting mode, my kolobok almost did not grow, I had to turn off the stove again. My kolobok grew up in half an hour.
I set the baking mode for 45 minutes and waited:
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I took it out of the bucket:
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I waited until it cools down:
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

What he cut off immediately ate.
I haven't eaten such bread since childhood, since my grandmother died.

Thanks to all members of the forum for my first bread.
Special thanks to Admin for what you are doing for us inexperienced
and Liane F. for her wonderful cake recipe.

P.S. On the same night, I also baked rye bread:
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Then, when I woke up, for dinner I had to bake bread again, because the neighbors, sleepily smelling the unusual smell, swooped in and diminished everything to the last crumb.
A couple more stoves will appear in our house soon

vladimirIl
Quote: lga

I think that one should not despair at a failed experiment. You took a very good photo of the stove itself, and it would be better to have a photo of unsuccessful attempts ... Most likely the question is in the balance of flour and liquid ... Have you studied the kolobok rule? flour as measured by scales or glasses ..?
Questions about unsuccessful baking are best asked in the topic Help, nothing comes out !!! (Ambulance)

No, the camera could not stand such an outrage,
Yes, and from the first results somehow it was not up to photographing, then I regained consciousness, but everything had already gone to the trash.
See the rest above, you just did not wait for the second (happy) part
I wanted to buy the scales, but for now I think - converting the weight to volume or vice versa is not a problem, but if I see where I buy it, it will be easier, and my wife is already interested in the process
Catwoman
Quote: vladimirIl

No, the camera could not stand such an outrage,
Yes, and from the first results somehow it was not up to photographing, then I regained consciousness, but everything had already gone to the trash.
See the rest above, you just did not wait for the second (happy) part
I wanted to buy the scales, but for now I think - converting the weight to volume or vice versa is not a problem, but if I see where I buy it, it will be easier, and my wife is already interested in the process

Vladimir, I always use weights, it’s a little tight with the translation "into cups". But there were no punctures with the scales. Good luck in mastering the stove! I have been baking bread for the third year already and my family refuses to eat in the store.
lega
Quote: vladimirIl

... You just didn't wait for the second (happy) part
I wanted to buy scales, but for now I think - transferring weight to volume or vice versa is not a problem, but if I see where I will buy it, it will be easier, and my wife is already interested in the process

Congratulations! The first difficulties are over ...
And with scales it is really very convenient .. so buy, you will regret it .. Electronic .. with a step of 1 g ... It is only desirable to check for accuracy .. In Russia it is easy to do it with coins, but in Belarus I don't even know how ...
vladimirIl
Quote: Catwoman

Vladimir, I always use weights, it’s a little tight with the translation "into cups". But there were no punctures with the scales. Good luck in mastering the stove! I have been baking bread for the third year already and my family refuses to eat in the store.

I also have a dislike for store-bought bread.
Since I tried it from the bread maker - I was treated to
vladimirIl
Quote: lga

Congratulations! The first difficulties are over ...
And with scales it is really very convenient .. so buy, you will regret it .. Electronic .. with a step of 1 g ... It is only desirable to check for accuracy .. In Russia it is easy to do it with coins, but in Belarus I don't even know how ...

It is also simple with us - for a dollar they give half a kilogram of waste paper, there is a hope that they will give exactly one kilogram - much easier.
If we had coins, can you imagine what scales would be needed - railway
sazalexter
vladimirIl Start with simple recipes from the instructions for HP Here is a selection from the forum and time-tested https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3328.0
quite suitable for any Panasonic
Waist70
Quote: lga

Congratulations! The first difficulties are over ...
And with scales it is really very convenient .. so buy, you will regret it .. Electronic .. with a step of 1 g ... It is only desirable to check for accuracy .. In Russia it is easy to do it with coins, but in Belarus I don't even know how ...
OH! : pardon: And about the coins, you can get more details ... I was just thinking how to check the Bekker scales in the store ... And then buy
lega
Quote: Waist70

OH! : pardon: And about coins, you can get more details ...

I can ... look for a link now ..

Here the weight of the coins is indicated ... only 10 new rubles are not available .. on my scales the weight of all coins shows correctly ... and three (together 30r) new tens weigh 17g

🔗
Waist70
Quote: lga

I can ... look for a link now ..

Here the weight of the coins is indicated ... only 10 new rubles are not available .. on my scales the weight of all coins shows correctly ... and three (together 30r) new tens weigh 17g

🔗
HERE THANKS !!! : girl_love: What a useful site and not only about coins.
vladimirIl
Quote: sazalexter

vladimirIl Start with simple recipes from the instructions for HP Here is a selection from the forum and time-tested Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Can this be used in place of malt?

I apologize wildly for the quality of the picture, I shot it with my phone when the flash was turned off, with the flash nothing is visible at all - it shines

vladimirIl
Quote: lga

And with scales it is really very convenient .. so buy, you will regret it .. Electronic .. with a step of 1g ... It is advisable to check only for accuracy ..
Already trying to choose in online stores. If it's not a secret, what do you have?
lega
This is not at all a secret .. I have a Baurer KS-65 scale .. they are not cheap, but you can do any ... if only the weight is shown correctly ... I chose these only because the display clearly shows and takes up little space ..

But the concentrate in your picture will very much go instead of malt .. there, after all, the main component is malt .. You can easily do without all the other additives ... We have separate topics about additives ..Agram, Panifarin and other improvers, starters, malt additives, products
vladimirIl
Quote: lga

This is not a secret at all .. I have a Baurer KS-65 scale .. they are not cheap, but you can do any ... if only the weight is shown correctly ... I chose these only because the display clearly shows and take up little space ..

But the concentrate in your picture will very much go instead of malt .. there, after all, the main component is malt .. You can easily do without all the other additives ... We have separate topics about additives ..Agram, Panifarin and other improvers, starters, malt additives, products
It's good that it's not China, I myself have looked closely at this company, but there are a lot of models - you can't immediately orientate yourself, thanks.

Concentrate means I take. You know, after these dances with a tambourine over yeast, there was a desire to exclude them from bread altogether, perhaps only for sweets, but the theory is not enough, so I don't leave the forum
sazalexter
vladimirIl Can play without strings and without yeast, only for this you need to grow sourdough https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=172.0
Extra-R additive;
Panifarin supplement;
Gluten;
Mixture "Borodino" (for "Borodino" bread);
You can do without it
But I would look for whole grain flour, especially since until recently we were selling Belarusian whole grain wheat flour
Arka
Quote: sazalexter

But I would look for whole grain flour, especially since until recently we were selling Belarusian whole grain wheat flour
I apologize for missing the topic, but I really want to know what kind of whole grain from Belarus
For a couple of years now I have been trying to find this flour in our stores, but so far only friends have been brought from St. Petersburg - a paradox ...
If only to find out the manufacturer, to look into his eyes
sazalexter
Arka We sold a store Orange on Savushkina 37, weighted flour, as I understand it, bags of 50 kg I don't know the manufacturer
Although I was always tormented by vague doubts, it seemed that it was just 2nd grade flour
Lucy
Good night, bakers at Panasonic! Yesterday evening we brought two Panasonic SD 2501 WTS bread machines from Moscow time (we live in the region) ...))) We will give one of them to the mother-in-law on Friday. Not long faced the choice of manufacturer and model, thanks to reviews on the internet and your website. We immediately ordered this model in the online store for 5635 rubles, and yesterday afternoon they took it away by ourselves ... True, they did not have time to test it in action yet, but I think tomorrow we will apply our knowledge in practice ... A lot of information is given here - read - not re-read everything at once ... Report to me in the next visit to this forum.
Vanya28
Quote: Lucy

... True, we have not yet had time to test it in action, but I think tomorrow we will apply my knowledge in practice ...
It is also useful to prepare a bib in advance
and attach a stopper to the teeth,
so your fingers don't get hurt
and everything in the kitchen did not get dirty from waiting,
feeling the smell of already baked bread !!!

Please come in to learn how to bake rye custard bread in this bread maker.
entrance - on the topic: rye custard bread.

Lucy
Good evening everyone! Vanya28, ATP for the invitation, I will definitely go to learn how to bake rye custard bread.
Today I started mastering the unit called a bread maker. And as it turned out, the first pancake does not always come out lumpy! And the result is very tasty French bread, fragrant, with a crispy crust.
But not everything was so smooth. At the end of baking, the kitchen did not feel "the smell of bread already being baked ...". And the acrid smell of burnt dough spread throughout the apartment, with a slight admixture of smoldering insulation ... As it turned out, a piece of dough got under the bucket during the kneading process and it began to burn later, thereby exuding a fetid smell of burning. Here is the only moment that spoiled the euphoria from the process itself and the anticipation of the subsequent pleasant eating of bread ...))))
Flour and sl. I hung oil on electronic scales, which, by the way, I bought yesterday in the same int. store, along with HP, following the advice of experienced bakers. They cost 330 rubles in total. A very handy thing, I want to tell everyone ..)))) I recommend getting them. I added milk instead of water. I took the recipe from the instructions for the HP.
My wife really liked the bread. He said that it turned out better than my mother used to bake it by hand, in the old fashioned way. Now he asks to practice on Easter cakes and muffins, because. is a great sweet tooth.
Judge for yourself, I am attaching pictures.
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Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
Confetti
and where is the photo ???
Lucy
Quote: KonFeTTi

and where is the photo ???
: girl_red: I'm trying to attach, but nothing comes of it And I read the corresponding Temka, but alas ((((... Usually never and nowhere did I have any difficulties ((((
Everything worked out...))))
Confetti
a pretty bread turned out .... Is that something sweet ???
Lucy
Thank you!!! No, this is French bread according to the recipe from the instructions for the HP. Apparently it happened in the photo, because of the flash, and it seems that the cake is sweet ... But instead of water, I added milk and the taste turned out to be very delicate ...
mowgli
I had the following opportunity: I baked bread, set size XL, medium crust, the bread turned out small but porous, but set size L, then the top of the bread reached the top of the bread machine .. I wonder why .. I took 330 ml of water, and a pound of flour in both cases..
And another question for the seasoned .. can bread go badly and not bake if you overdo it with vinegar? ..
Vanya28
Quote: mowgli

...
And another question for the seasoned .. can bread go badly and not bake if you overdo it with vinegar? ..
The recipe must be written and not lazy!
Apparently they baked something rye?
A high amount of acid (vinegar) interferes with the functioning of the yeast, until the dough does not rise completely. Accordingly, you will not bake bread. This should be taken into account when baking, increasing the amount of yeast or rising time, but within reasonable limits, naturally.
mowgli
No, not rye, I just read that a little acidification would not hurt, and many bake with whey and even kefir or add a little vinegar, and I added a little to the recipe, but today HOW I got off the ground and this is the result, I rushed home from work in the hope that there would be bread , .. and the top is white, the sides are really golden and crispy, and the cut smelled like vinegar .. annoyance ..
and the recipe is the same pound of flour, 2 tablespoons of Panasonic yeast, 1.5 sugar, 2 salts, a tablespoon of sunflower oil, 330 ml of water.
Vanya28
Quote: mowgli

N ... but today HOW it was leaking and this is the result - I rushed from work in the hope that there would be bread, ...
Always use a recipe plate, scales and measuring containers or measuring spoons.
It will become a habit and even a monkey can bake, and always with a guaranteed result.
mowgli
I have been baking like this for 3 weeks, and before that 8 years on Skis .. and everything is "bunch" .. and here ..
shanti
Dear bakers!
Is it true that the white body of Panasonic bread makers turns yellow pretty quickly in the shadow area? I choose between white and metallic. Thank you.
Alxndr
Quote: shanti

Is it true that the white body of Panasonic bread makers turns yellow pretty quickly in the shadow area?
In my opinion - not true!
About quickly - definitely not true!
lega
I fell asleep from such a proposal ...

🔗

Is that really true? Bread maker Panasonic SD-2500WTS -4910 rub. Then those who are looking for HP now need to be grabbed urgently ..
Confetti
Quote: lga

I fell asleep from such a proposal ...

🔗

Is that really true? Bread maker Panasonic SD-2500WTS -4910 rub. Then those who are looking for HP now need to be grabbed urgently ..
good price!! I took a week ago for 4950 rubles but from a friend from a wholesale warehouse ... and in the store, whether 7000, or 8000 rubles
mowgli
Maybe Muscovites are lucky, but I bought it 2 weeks ago or three I don't remember-7200-Panasonic2500
Weckl
Hello everyone!
Today I purchased SD-2502. I haven’t tried it in business yet, but the first thing that confused me was ... Chinese production ... Tell me, should it be like this, or did they slip me a leftist? For some reason, I thought that Japan produced them ...
Vanya28
Quote: Weckl

Hello everyone!
Today I purchased SD-2502. I haven’t tried it in business yet, but the first thing that confused me was ... Chinese production ... Tell me, should it be like this, or did they slip me a leftist? For some reason, I thought that Japan produced them ...
Everything is fine with you, do not be sad.
sazalexter
Weckl Panasonic's CP production plant is located in China. A lot of manual labor is used in production, so almost all HP are from China
You just need to understand that there is, there are Chinese goods, and there are made in China at production facilities belonging to one or another company
Nev @
Hello dear bakers!
Take in your ranks. I ordered a Panasonic SD-2501. They will bring it on September 15. (It seems like an adult, but joy is bursting, we must boast). Before that, I never had a bread machine, I sit down to study in detail the information for beginners.
avilt
Quote: Weckl

For some reason, I thought that Japan produced them ...
Not only bread makers, but almost all household appliances have recently been produced in China. Globalization, damn it ...
S_V
Take in the ranks. There has never been a bread machine before. Today, as soon as they brought it, I studied the instructions and sat down on the forum. I want to learn how to bake bread with pressed yeast until I found it: girl_red: Tomorrow I need to buy a scale, but as I already understood it more precisely.

Vanya28
Quote: S_V

... Tomorrow I need to buy scales, but as I already understood more precisely.
And measuring spoons for small weights at IKEA, which is more convenient and more accurate (there are also cheap scales). Then the scales may not be expensive, up to 5 kg. and without a cup. Although 5-20 gr. all scales that are expensive, that will not have a large measurement error in this range, unless it is a scale of 100-200 gr.
Bobo
Hello girls and boys. I'm new!
Help is urgently needed.
I kneaded the dough of milk bread on the dough mode.
How to expose baking. It turns out only a timer
But what about the crust ???
How many minutes should I put ???
Andreevna
And why did you put on the dough if you need ready-made bread? There are also special programs there. Or did you decide to knead first and then bake? Will you bake in HP or in the oven? If in HP, then let the dough rise right in the HP, set the BAKING program, and set the timer for 55 minutes if it is wheat bread for 500 g of flour. If with rye flour, then put at least an hour - 1.05. So approximately.Well, next time, look carefully at the instructions on how to do this, you will understand everything, it's simple. First try to bake bread on the main program for 4 hours.
Bobo
spasibo, a gde luche v mashine ili duxovke ???
Andreevna
Did you put the dough program on for 2 hours and 20 minutes?
Bobo
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