Buddy
Girls, good afternoon everyone!
I want to order 010 from Germany with delivery to Russia, there are good offers on ebay.
How did you get your VAT back and will there be any fees at customs?
Thank you all in advance.
Mist
Quote: Buddy

Girls, good afternoon everyone!
I want to order 010 from Germany with delivery to Russia, there are good offers on ebay.
How did you recover VAT and will there be any fees at customs?
Thank you all in advance.

When buying on ebay, VAT is not refundable.
I repeatedly asked sellers, they always answer no
Share the links (you can in a personal), I monitor it myself, but so far nothing interesting for the price.
Masinen
Girls, look, in the Metro store on Varshavka that I found
An unhappy man stands there and waits for his mistress)

Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)
Segey13
Quote: Buddy

Girls, good afternoon everyone!
I want to order 010 from Germany with delivery to Russia, there are good offers on ebay.
How did you recover VAT and will there be any fees at customs?
Thank you all in advance.
Good afternoon, VAT is not refundable, normal sellers deduct it immediately from the total amount.
I bought on ebay from germany from h-duve.de seller. You just need to ask to deduct VAT and issue a final invoice. You need to pay without using ebay, since the amount there does not change !!! Pay with paypal. There will be customs fees for purchases over 1000 € per month. The fees are pretty big, so don't overcharge.
Buddy
Thanks to everyone and especially to Irina S.
Ordered on - the store has been personally checked several times.
Unlike .de, the price is already indicated without VAT.
I also took a few nozzles there.
Olex
Hurrah!!!! Wait !!! It was not for nothing that I left the page with 084 Kesha open on the computer screen for several months, so to speak, to visualize my birthday present for my husband. It worked !!!! True, I took it in the minimum configuration, and the attachments, in addition to rolling, (this will be required), over time. When my husband pulled the box, his eyes were in - why do I need an elephant in the kitchen .... calmed down when they opened it and promised custard-dumplings-pies in large quantities
I walk around Keshik in circles, I'm afraid I'll try tomorrow. Dovooooooool
Serge
Olex,

Congratulations on your purchase!)
Natalyushka
Congratulations, great gift
Albina
Olex, with a purchase. : rose: I also slowly mastered, although I already had 3 different combines before. It's just that this one is VERY expensive. I am reminded from time to time of its price
AlenaT
Lena, congratulations on your purchase!
Let it please!)))
ellanna
Quote: Olex

Hurrah!!!! Wait !!! It was not for nothing that I left the page with 084 Kesha open on the computer screen for several months, so to speak, to visualize my birthday present for my husband. It worked !!!! Dovooooooool
What a good method. The husband is smart. Let it serve you and your husband for a long time. Kesha is my inspiration. Cooking is not so scary to start.

It is clear that you can cook everything with handles, but complex dishes become easy with it.
The other day, I'm in a hurry, another girlfriend came in, and there are plans to make stewed cabbage and go to pick up the child in an hour from school. In front of the amazed kuma's eyes, she cut the onion on a cube cutter, threw it into the multicooker while fried, rubbed the carrot in the food processor, chopped the cabbage. All in a cartoon with meat. I closed it, put it on for 18 minutes, and went to school. I am driving proud of myself and my technique.
ollyhka
girls, good evening everyone !!!! take me into your ranks too !!!
my husband gave me kms 010, how I like you say- "keshu ..." at first I looked at the miracle technique with caution ... the price .... it took a long time to get used to it .... but when I kneaded the shortbread dough, whipped the proteins ... girls and understood - how my husband loves me ...
what I did before without this assistant ...
while the set includes a meat grinder, a blender, a juicer (I squeezed the juice, I liked it, I whipped a cocktail for the kids on a blender, they said super!)
ollyhka
girls, at the beginning of the page, it says that you can download a book with recipes, poke where ??? I looked through all my eyes ...
not included in the kit ..... although I saw it in one of the stores .... hmm ... of course it's not catastrophic ... but still ...
I will be grateful to you ...
AlenaT
Olya, congratulations on your purchase!)))
And ask Darius 33 for the book, she threw us all in the mail,
for which many thanks to her !!!)))
Olga VB
Young girls!
Please look on the underside of your Keshi 080 (084, 086), which power is indicated on the label as normal and maximum (nom and loсked).
Is it indicated somewhere in the technical specifications how this power is distributed among the nodes (seats)?
And another question for all Keshevods: is it really annoying that all 3 (4) nodes are working simultaneously? And that from the extra rumble you have to constantly remove some of the equipment so that it does not spin idle.
I am very grateful to everyone who responds in advance.
Inusya
Virgo, I duplicate the request here, - who has a Major equipped with a meat grinder attachment (or who bought it separately) - please weigh it collected, it seems that they want to dilute me in the store into some kind of leftist (for the native price). But this attachment is not suspiciously impressive in terms of weight and appearance.
Albina
Quote: Olga VB

And another question for all Keshevods: is it really annoying that all 3 (4) nodes are working simultaneously? And that from the extra rumble you have to constantly remove some of the equipment so that it does not spin idle.
I am very grateful to everyone who responds in advance.

At the same time, you can only start, if I'm not mistaken, only 2 nodes. In principle, I have done this several times. True, I have Kesha 23
Albina
Quote: Inusya

Virgo, I duplicate the request here, - who has a Major equipped with a meat grinder attachment (or who bought it separately) - please weigh it collected, it seems that they want to dilute me in the store into some kind of leftist (for the native price). But this attachment is not suspiciously impressive in terms of weight and appearance.
I weighed it specially for you, Inusya, 2097g I haven’t taken it out of the box yet, I have a separate meat grinder. How much do they tell you?
Chenka
Quote: Olga VB

Please look on the underside of your Keshi 080 (084, 086), which power is indicated on the label as normal and maximum (nom and loсked).
Is it indicated somewhere in the technical specifications, how this power is distributed among the nodes (seats)?
And another question for all Keshevods: is it really annoying that all 3 (4) nodes are working simultaneously? And that from the extra rumble you have to constantly remove some of the equipment so that it does not spin idle.

Max. 2000, 1500 and 500 are still written.
Unused attachments are in the cabinet. Now I will not say where I read it, but I found information that it is not recommended to use attachments at the same time.
Inusya
Quote: Albina

I weighed it specially for you, Inusya, 2097g I haven’t taken it out of the box yet, I have a separate meat grinder. How much do they tell you?

... THX ...
... until they say nothing, just the husband held it on his hand and said, "Some kind of lantern, the last time we looked, it was a completely different matter ..."
That is why I want to weigh it there, and make sure that it is not some kind of "leftist" invention ... Now I can slip something, I have to be prepared ...
OxiSK
Quote: Inusya

... THX ...
... until they say nothing, just the husband held it on his hand and said, "Some kind of lantern, the last time we looked, it was a completely different matter ..."
That is why I want to weigh it there, and make sure that it is not some kind of "leftist" invention ... Now I can slip something, I have to be prepared ...
I have a net weight of a meat grinder without a box of 838 grams, if you put a tray on top, then 1214 grams comes out.
Olga VB
Quote: Chenka

Max. 2000, 1500 and 500 are still written.
Unused attachments are in the cabinet. Now I will not say where I read it, but I found information that it is not recommended to use attachments at the same time.
Is it motor power (15000) and heating power (500)?
And in those. characteristics everywhere write that the heating is 1100W ... (?!).
By the way, today I saw one of Kenwood's models.
On it, unfortunately, only the maximum power was indicated on the label, and the operating power was not indicated.
The fact that it is not necessary to simultaneously operate all the nests is understandable.
I asked about something else: no matter what nest is used, all 4 are still spinning.
As far as I understand, this leads to a loss of power and additional noise. So?
Chenka
Quote: Olga VB

Is it motor power (15000) and heating power (500)?
And in those. characteristics everywhere write that the heating is 1100W ... (?!).
I asked about something else: no matter what nest is used, all 4 are still spinning.
As far as I understand, this leads to a loss of power and additional noise. So?

On the officer. website written
Power, W: 1500 W mixing; 1100W cooking

On my sticker there are still 500. That I still did not understand.

Yes, all the nests are spinning. Somehow I didn't think about the extra noise. Yes, the combine is not quiet. But my previous plastic was noisy, it seems to me, even more, and the power was 3 times less.
Olga VB
Thank you, Svetochka!
I watched 020 today. He seemed so huge to me ...
But 080 is even bigger.
I'm all lost in thought
In general, I still cannot make up my mind.
Olex
And it's not huge (my old Moulinex is 10 cm lower, just Kesha is wider) .... here's the box ... it's Yes ... you can blow up. The question is, why do I need a book of recipes in Polish for induction.
Olga VB
Well, you can pick up a trash can for the wrong recipe book.
And how to choose a countertop for "little" Kesha in my kitchen .... Here's the task!
Inusya
Quote: Albina

I weighed it specially for you, Inusya, 2097g I haven’t taken it out of the box yet, I have a separate meat grinder. How much do they tell you?

Quote: OxiSK

I have a net weight of a meat grinder without a box of 838 grams, if you put a tray on top, then 1214 grams comes out.


So what to do now? there are more questions than answers ...
Wow, damn it! ...
I was really confused ...
Albin, but you can not weigh without a box? Pzhlst, otherwise I'm straight in confusion ...
ollyhka
meat grinder weight
meat grinder 836grm (body itself + strainer + knife + shaft + little thing that closes the strainer, I don't know what to call it)
1740grm and everything that was in the box, that is, the first and + pusher (in the middle of the plastic nozzle for sausage), 2 strainers, a key, a tray, and an upper tray
ollyhka
literally an hour ago I was making minced meat (the meat was not perfect, so pieces and veins and salsa ...): I collected it myself, began to twist and shock ... terrible, grinds ...
I was upset ... my husband came, disassembled, assembled (pressed firmly that the knife stuck tightly to the strainer), and lo and behold, it was easy, beautifully twisted everything, I didn't even use the pusher ... and the girls' meat was streaked ... (I have a meat grinder Moulinex 700 watts, it doesn't twist like that)
I really liked the conclusion of the meat grinder
ollyhka
everyone is probably already asleep ...
girls who have been with caches for a long time .. tell me I want a grater nozzle ... but I don't know which one .... maybe tell me (I understand, ideally, I want everything, but ...)
I mostly shred cabbage,
how I rub vegetables for salads and mugs on Korean carrots ...
cubes definitely not ...

and which one, tell me pliz ...
Olga VB
Namesake, what model do you have?
ollyhka
good morning!
Olga VB

Namesake, what model do you have?

Kms 010
tatita
Ol, good morning, I have been using km010 for 2 years now, there is a high and low-speed one, so for cabbage it is definitely high-speed, you chop it for salad and for pickling, and rub the carrots (like on Korean), only it will be a little shorter, but it tastes will not affect: bye: Frying potatoes are very good, in general I like a lot of things on them. It is clear that everyone chooses for themselves, we have a family of five people for us, it is ideal.
AK
Soon I will join your "brotherhood" Several years ago a PG-520 meat grinder was bought (it was not in vain that I bought it, and not the civilian plastic version), now I have ordered KM086 with a cube MGX400 nozzle. I am studying what will need to be ordered - by the summer, most likely, an ice cream maker is not needed The meat grinder attachment is not needed yet, I think to continue using mine.

P.S. In the section "My Technique" you cannot select anything fresh km010 / km020 ... a mess! Whom to complain to?
Inusya
Quote: ollyhka

meat grinder weight
meat grinder 836grm (body itself + strainer + knife + shaft + little thing that closes the strainer, I don't know what to call it)
1740grm and everything that was in the box, that is, the first and + pusher (in the middle of the plastic nozzle for sausage), 2 strainers, a key, a tray, and an upper tray

Olenka, thanks for the details and sorry for the importunity.
I just want to figure it out to the end, so as not to get stuck, the time is ...
Now I have all the weight options, I have it, I'll go and rape the sellers ... And then their "demo versions of attachments" alerted me ...
Albina
Inusya, it seems to me that all the boron cheese about the weight of the meat grinder is not justified: the sellers have nothing to do with it. For the sake of interest, I also went and weighed everything. It turned out that the working part with the mechanisms of the meat grinder weighs 828g, and the entire contents of the box without packaging weighs 1833g. I bought my Keshik 2 years ago. It seems to me that it depends on the manufacturer.
Inusya
Albina, so otzh ... I'm wondering why such a light "base" itself, or whatever it is, this one, is the most basic "piece of iron" and auger, they are suspiciously light. Somehow it doesn't fit with the car itself, it's such a solid machine, and this is frail. As for the manufacturer, I definitely agree! There are only 3 factories - China, Germany and, it seems, England. While studying. I don't want to buy a "lantern" for a thousand.
Olga VB
Make no mistake: all Kenwood orders are placed from a factory in China.
Moreover, now almost all EU manufacturers place their orders in China.
Another thing is that in China there are only 3-4 factories capable of producing normal quality UNDER the developer's control.
Then this technique is delivered in full to the development company, and from there in different directions.
Another thing is that someone could be in advance and make counterfeit at the same or other Chinese factories.
So, in addition to weight, it would be nice to consult an official representative if fakes have been recorded somewhere and how to distinguish them.
AlenaT
And I have Spain on my high-speed grater!
How!)))
Olga VB
I can only quote the classics: If "elephant" is written on a cage with a tiger, do not believe your eyes.
You can call the official representative of any equipment and ask where the firewood comes from? And get an honest answer that from, for example, Germany. And then ask where it came from to Germany, i.e. where this technique is REALLY made.
They can, of course, answer, for example, that in Germany.
But if you correctly clarify your question, then you will be answered something like that a German plant under the leadership of German specialists, blah blah blah, but located in China ... etc.
Albina
Inusya, how much does the main working part of the meat grinder weigh from the seller?
It seems to me that now ours to take something may have errors. And most likely now no one pays much attention to quality. Take shoes, for example. We bought it for my husband and less than 2 weeks passed, I had to hand it over for repair. The maximum is enough for a month of socks (of course, an example is not so hot) But now even take cell phones, at best, they work decently for a year. My example, after half a year, began to turn off. The husband says, let's buy a new one. In principle, it suits me so far. I’m not ready every year for a new phone, and I’m not even ready to buy a new phone with no mental bells and whistles, which I will not use. It's just a means of communication for me personally.
Olex
Girls, and who makes a vanilla sponge cake on boiling water on Keshik. Something I can't do with it Previously, it was cool by hand, but Keshikom did not ... The eggs get off smartly, then I stir the flour at 2 speeds (the volume decreases a little, maybe I interfere for a long time?) And plus the rest ... During baking, it rises normally , and when it cools down it sits down ... I did 10 eggs twice and both times ...
Kalmykova
It is better to mix on the minimum.
Vitalinka
Olex, for this biscuit, I beat eggs with sugar on a swing. speed, then smoothly switch to min. speed and add the rest of the ingredients. Long for min. you do not need to beat speed, just so that everything is mixed.
Olex
Girls, thanks. I got a little upset and messed up in the process. And she got upset - the husband heard when the engine was running (At the top of the combine) some kind of extraneous noise, as if the rapid sound of train wheels ...It appears, then disappears ... He says that it looks like, or bearings or gears ...
Inusya
virgins, thanks, I take into account all the advice.
As something clears up, I'll sign off, but it's interesting to get to the end ... I'm digging ...
Olex
Quote: Olex

... when the engine is running (at the top of the combine) there is some kind of extraneous noise, as if a quick knock of the wheels of a train ... It appears, then it disappears ........ seems to be either bearings or gears ...
People!!! please tell me, otherwise 2 weeks will end soon when you can return or exchange. True, when they called that online store, they told us that such noises are permissible ...
Daria33
Olex, my opinion Change is unambiguous, in the store they will of course tell you that it is permissible - they never want to change something, the car is very expensive, you never know, it will break down in a month or two, and then wake up to go to services
Daria33
By the way, about the biscuit, I also encountered subsidence, the flour should be mixed in the last place and slightly at the minimum speed or manually
-Sterva-
Hello girls! take a newcomer from Kiev! Finally ripe for the kitchen machine. chose between Bosch, Philips and Kenwood. Having twisted everything in the store and felt it, I realized that Kenwood was driving. I want KMS 013. But if I say there are still doubts. Suddenly 020 is better or another model? What is the difference between Major and Chef ??
All of you, as already advanced users of combines and kitchen machines, may give me some advice. It is important for me in the car that everything listed below is included in the kit:
- the grater is fine, like on potato pancakes,
-large, like borsch,
- Korean carrot,
- shredded cabbage,
-slicing sausages, cheese,
-mills.
-dough mixer and whiskers all by itself
-meat grinder
- nozzles for sausages.
-blender (my submersible just burned out safely)

It seems to have indicated everything. Additionally, I want to buy a potato peeler, an ice cream maker and a cube cutter. The latter also needs reviews
I'm waiting for advice. Thank you!
Pysy: still wondering where it is more profitable to buy a combine? Russia, Germany? let's say the same CCM 013. In Ukraine, about 1100 ye-1200 ye.

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