Pakat
prascovia, page 33, two beeps, main brushes do not rotate, see appendix C: check and clean the head of the cleaning head.
Pages 60-63, Appendix C, details how to inspect and clean the robot.
If something is not clear, ask ...
Boo Boo
Quote: MariV

520? Is he better?
He has a base, and perhaps nothing else! And, I forgot, he is Russian-speaking, but this is nonsense.
Zubastik
And I got 555. The impressions are positive, but to clean it up some kind of horror. I was probably used to Thomas just pouring out the dirty water, and I had a dry cyclone before, too, I just had to shake out the flask and that's it, no dirt. And then some kind of tin. Sit with your hands to rake everything, and the most difficult thing is to pull out the hair from the brushes.
But still I really like it!
Boo Boo
Zubastik Congratulations on your purchase!
I have no difficulty in cleaning. The brush is cleaned in one stroke using a red gadget)))))))
Zubastik
Boo Boo, Thank you! I have difficulties with the helicopter - the hair is wound around it, what is the best way to clean it? Screwdriver every time?
Zubastik
This is such a thing
Rumba - robot vacuum cleaner for dry cleaning
You pass a brush through it and remove everything that is wound like a comb.
Nastasya
Quote: prascovia

What is it like? on "virtual walls", or have I missed something?
Virtual walls prevent the robot from crossing a certain line. For some models, this virtual wall can be switched to a virtual beacon mode. Then the robot first cleans one room, then crosses this line and cleans another room. At the end of the cleaning, guided by these beacons, he returns to the base.
Zubastik
I don’t understand why the rules for using NiMg batteries are not written anywhere in the instructions? Well, it is unlikely that all advanced buyers look at what type of battery and go to study the meaning of its work on the Internet. They must be discharged and recharged. to end! The most dangerous thing such a battery is afraid of is partial discharge charge... In such a situation, the following literally happens - the discharged battery capacity is perceived as a new capacity and, accordingly, the total battery capacity becomes equal to the capacity that was discharged at the time of recharging. This is called the memory effect. The charged battery capacity is, as it were, cut off; over time, the value of this cutoff increases.
Therefore, do not charge your robot regularly if it is not completely discharged.
Zubastik
Quote: Nastasya

Virtual walls prevent the robot from crossing a certain line. For some models, this virtual wall can be switched to a virtual beacon mode. Then the robot first cleans one room, then crosses this line and cleans another room. At the end of the cleaning, guided by these beacons, he returns to the base.
I wonder in what sequence he will move through the lighthouses. Suppose I put it in a room that has one exit to the corridor. He first cleans the room, then naturally the corridor. Further from the corridor I have several additional exits to other rooms and premises. Where will he go next? And won't he get confused where he cleaned, and where not?
But this question is probably for sellers, not for you.
Gin
Zubastik, but what about the base? after all, after cleaning, Rumba returns to the base, even if the battery is not discharged
Boo Boo
ZubastikDuring the entire period of use, the propeller was unscrewed 2 times. I try to follow him, after each cleaning I just pull his hair out. ))))

The store said that the robot should always be on charge.
Zubastik
Quote: BooBoo

ZubastikDuring the entire period of use, the propeller was unscrewed 2 times.I try to follow him, after each cleaning I just pull his hair out. ))))

The store said that the robot should always be on charge.
Well, I haven't unscrewed it at all, but by the degree of "pulling out" I realized that I would have to unscrew it.
The fact that it is always on charge is correct, but! only after full discharge! And he is not completely discharged when he goes to the base, the charge is still huge.
Cvetaal
I only have a Rumba 505 for a few days. I am very happy, I run it every day. I didn't expect to see such a clean and shiny floor !!! I have polished porcelain stoneware and laminate.
I don't see any problems with cleaning. On the propeller, I cut off the wound hair and threads with scissors. I clean the brush with a known device. Everything about everything takes no more than 5 minutes. Charging is enough for about 90 square meters, the remaining 30 square meters are vacuumed in the second run.
Tatunya
I really like my Piglet (505). Yesterday I worked until I was completely exhausted. For 1 charge I cleaned about 50m. sq. (well, so much is stated). It climbs very funny on the carpet (I have a high one, but with a dense pile), a pipe with a diameter of 4 cm also climbed

Zubastik, but what if everything is cleaned and the battery is not discharged?
Gin
just about ... the other day I even puzzled over the instruction ... the meaning then in the base (who has the base)? it turns out that if everything is cleared, and the battery is not discharged, then it should simply be turned off and left outside the base.
it turns out that by going to the base after finishing work, he only reduces the size of the battery? Or do you need to clean every time until the battery is completely discharged?
Here is the question - why is this base even needed?
Boo Boo
The irobot store claims that the robot should always stand at the base. And speculation that it should be completely discharged is nonsense!
Gin
Boo Boo, I'm confused. the instructions say that you need to charge when it is discharged and keep it on charge constantly. I understand that after being discharged, charge and leave on charge? no instructions at hand ... sorry ...
but on the same page it is written that the battery is nickel-cadmium and some other (I'm not sure if I wrote the first one correctly) - in general, the one that has a "memory" of charge, so I think ...
Zubastik
Oh, Boo Boo... Sometimes such "smart guys" work in stores, you just wonder. Recently I listened to how the seller of the equipment was pouring into the ears of potential buyers of the induction cooker that it is extremely critical to put dishes on it that are not suitable for the diameter of the heating zones, and the buyers dismissed their ears and listened to every word of the "specialist" ...
What is constantly kept on the base is because Ni-MH batteries have an extremely high self-discharge rate, and the seller is worried that the buyer does not complain about the quality of the goods. After all, it is inconvenient to start the vacuum cleaner, but it will refuse to work because of the lost discharge.
The fact that the memory effect exists is a fact. Another fact is that this effect is extremely small compared, for example, with nickel-cadmium batteries, which are probably not used anywhere else. Another fact is that modern nickel batteries are trying to be modified in order to reduce this effect, but it will not work to remove it.
Here are the first links on the Internet on how to properly charge different types of batteries:
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And it's not for nothing that the clever Chinese immediately adapted the lithium battery.
My verdict for myself is this - let him go to the base as he wants, but the normal cycle does not need to be interrupted (i.e., for example, one room must be cleaned and taken to the base forcibly) and periodically once a month or a week, do not let him go to the base at all to deplete all charge.
Quote from the last link:
As noted above, NiCd and NiMh batteries have a so-called "memory effect". Its practical meaning is that the battery "gets used" to give in the process of discharge the capacity that it received during the last charges. If you charge a half-discharged battery, simply "finishing off" it to the maximum, then over time it begins to give only this half, losing capacity.Therefore, for a long life of nickel batteries, they should be cycled (at least once a month is sufficient) to prevent this effect from occurring. The cycling process consists in completely discharging the battery and then charging it. If the battery is already old and already has a reduced capacity due to the memory effect, then it can be reanimated within small limits (but not completely - up to 10-20%). For such a procedure, it is enough to make 3 cycles, all subsequent cycles usually no longer give a positive result.
I actually asked this question for a reason, my work in the past was connected with this ...
Boo Boo
For what I bought, for that I sell.)))))) I talked with the girl who is in charge of vacuum cleaners, she clarified in the service center. But on the other hand, you cannot argue against facts. For myself, I concluded that I will try to periodically discharge the robot completely.
musyanya
My friend's sister married a Japanese man. She has been living for several years in the north of Japan in a small town. They asked her how there were about robotic vacuum cleaners, Confused and so on. Alenka herself did not hear anything about them, but she interviewed all her friends (Japanese women) - they also do not know anything, they heard about their existence for the first time Shocked .. And only one was found, she had such a robot, Japanese, she did not like it, she complained that collected exceptionally large garbage ... Alenka found out the prices, the cost of different models in terms of our rubles from 6 thousand to 100 thousand ... And that Japanese woman who had a robot, Alenka advised to buy a robot Skubu ... And in general, they have high prices for equipment, no one has dishwashers, no multicooker ... In the fall, Alenka will move closer to Tokyo, there she will see what kind of robots there are ... Japan and Japan, it turns out! Shocked

I'm telling Merry. My robot 520 Smiles has arrived today. I bought it from the online store. ь discount for Boobu Flower !!! (3%). I tormented everyone a little (hopefully a little) with my questions and concerns. Fortunately, very polite and attentive people came across in confusion (Marina Rudneva and another girl called me directly from Moscow when Marina was on a business trip). EMS delivery. After returning, Marina first of all wrote a letter to me, inquired about the fate of the Shocked package. Here's a store !!!!!!!! Shocked My robot breathed nervously for several hours, blinking an orange light, now it is joyfully green ... In 16 hours, the exit to the surface of Mars will take place. Makes eyes

My first impressions of the 520 rumba.
Chapter 1 Who is Kuzya. My Kuzya is an American born by the will of fate in China. He flew to
a solid, beautiful box. Inside, each thing lay separately, and with its own bag. The kit contains a bunch of instructions for use and a red cleaning brush. The base and charger turned out to be unusually light in weight. Rumba, on the contrary, turned out to be a heavy beetle, outwardly much larger than I saw on YouTube. Build quality without any complaints. The appearance is more beautiful live, I thought it would be white, but it is white with a turquoise overlay. Wheels just shocked - so funny !! She turned it on at 8.30 am, he finished cleaning at 11.15 (it was shining red and a voice in Russian announced the need to recharge.) First cleaned the hall and the corridor in turn. I was afraid in vain if Kuzya would crawl through a 35 cm wide slot to the computer table. I did it playfully! In this nook, my Kuzya, like a dung beetle, found himself a favorite place to collect treasures - near the system unit, the corner and the baseboard are flat. He ran into this corner and under the children's bed especially often, with the insistence of a maniac for purity. The trajectory of movement is complex, I would not call it stupid (I read such messages). Near the legs Kuzya lives up to the name of the manufacturer - he dances! In the hall and corridor, I probably cleaned for about an hour. Then we heard his joyful song and he ran to the base. I sent for cleaning in my grandmother's room. There is a double bed, and on the floor in the corner there is foam rubber 15 cm high, covered with polyethylene and a blanket on top. This is instead of a mat in the sports corner.I was very worried that he would stumble over him, worried about the helicopter. Calmly ran alongside, did not touch anything, did not get confused. When he finished his work, he played the song and turned off. The third stage is the hallway and kitchen. It is always dirtier there .. I cleaned meticulously about all available places, collected everything I could. I noticed that if he drives larger garbage with a helicopter, for example, a grain of buckwheat, but for some reason could not pick it up right away, he will do it in the second, third or fourth pass through this place. As a result, it is impossible to find fault with the quality of cleaning. Kuzya asked for recharging in the kitchen, and it seems to me that he managed to clean it well. If there was enough charge, I don't know how much more he would ride .. The result is one - the apartment is removed. After that, I wiped the floor with a sponge mop, the water is clean during wringing. Maybe there is microscopic dust - it was not visible. We always walk barefoot in the hall and room - the floor before washing with a mop, but after Kuzi already creaked strangely under our feet (as if he had already been washed). I usually wash the floor 4 times a day because of the kids. With Kuzya, the floor is much cleaner even by the evening, I think now to wash it 1-2 times, but definitely not 3 or 4. Collisions with objects suggest that he sees light objects better than dark ones (for example, furniture legs) ... Stools acted as a movement limiter. In general, the impression leaves an excellent, emotionally felt indescribable delight !!!! The children and I watched Kuzi's work barely breathing and with our mouths open. Mashka got tired of looking and fell asleep. The noise did not bother her at all.
Chapter 2. Caring for a little animal, or "horror stories" about cleaning Rumba from the fruits of his labor.
The rumba is very dirty, dust on top, dust on the sides, dust, dirt inside. (This is the worst)
It turned out that the container is removed with a slight movement of the hand, and large debris spills out. Then, with no less light movement of the hand, small debris is thrown away. Then she easily took off the brushes, untangled and pulled out a tuft of hair, wiped everything everywhere with a dry cloth, put everything in place, and took the animal to the feeder. The trash was photographed on A4 cardboard. There are no carpets, no animals, it seems, and the amount of garbage collected is impressive (the previous wet cleaning was last night, when Kuzya was still charging.). That's why I washed the floor 4 times before - a lot of rubbish !!! In total, I have several robots: a baker robot, a multicooker robot, a dishwasher robot, a washing robot, now the Kuzya robot vacuum cleaner. Guess who else I need? (Brother Kuzi). Everything, the words temporarily ended, the delight remained unchanged ...
Rumba - robot vacuum cleaner for dry cleaning
A4 paperboard and dirtRumba - robot vacuum cleaner for dry cleaning
Cvetaal
Musyanya, I rinse the container with water, then dry it when opened, usually I do it at night.
musyanya
Rumba - robot vacuum cleaner for dry cleaning
"And dirt, with regular cleaning, will be much less ..." - golden words !!!
Nastasya
And something happened to me with the vacuum cleaner. The display reads "Error 2". The list of errors says "Inability to rotate the brushes." But just the brushes turn normally. Drives and vacuums. I bet on charging - a mistake.
prascovia
Nastasya Have you seen the "helicopter"? Did you take out the front wheel?
The place where the brushes are wiped clean? Note that both debris and hair can curl around the yellow "pimples" that are on the brushes.
Nastasya
Thank you. It has already done everything.
He stopped charging. All night long I stood on charging and worked for 20 seconds. And that's it ..... To the service center now ??
prascovia
Do you want to say that the robot is not charging? (When it is charging it shimmers in red-orange color?), Or after charging it works for 20 seconds and stops?
Try, if possible, put another battery.
Nastasya
When charging, the Clean light flashes, but at the same time an error message appears. When charging is off, there is no error. There's no other battery ... eh ... I'm calling the service center tomorrow.
musyanya
Nastasya, how is your pet? What news from the service are there?
A question for owners of Rumba animal series.You have tougher brushes there, right? Do they really collect wool better ??? Or you can not especially chase a more expensive model, and a simple type 505 and 520 will also cope with it well ??? And animal brushes are not suitable for these simple dust particles ??? Friends came to see me yesterday Kuzya. They were on fire to write out such a toy, and they had a cat. What do you advise?? Do you need to order spare brushes and filters with cats?
prascovia
I read on one forum that filters can be simply washed and dried well. And they will be like new.
Boo Boo
In the Airbot store they say that the brushes are the same. I tend to believe them as there is only one type of brushes sold in the spare parts section. I have 2 dogs and also ferrets (currently 2 adults and 6 puppies). So there are a whole bunch of animals. The robot is doing it. True, I have no carpets.
I wash the filter almost after every use.
musyanya
My friends ordered the 563 robot from Moscow. Thank you Boob for the discount !!!!!! We decided to buy this model because of the cat (there is programming + a set of brushes). If you like the worker, then they will order another Scuba washer ... Hurray! Robots are advancing on the province !!!!!!!

Iskra, I was born in Alekseevka, Belgorod region !!! Happy
The robot was delivered to me on the 4th day from Moscow to Blagoveshchensk !!! (delivery time was 3-6 days).
Boo Boo
To get 3% discount in the store 🔗 , you need to write or call the store (it is better to contact Marina Rudneva) and say that you are from Veronica Buyanova.
When buying two or more vacuum cleaners, you can get an additional discount or gift.
Nastasya
We can say that she got off with a slight fright. My charging has gone awry. I bought a new one. Ugh, ugh .... charging.
Veselena
Svetlana, Hello! I saw that you bought rumba 563, today I ordered the same one in the same store ... and then I came across this forum ... Tell me - does it bang on furniture and how does it go around the legs of chairs? Now I have doubts - to buy 563 or 581 In 581 there are sensors, cat. send the vacuum cleaner to clean up another room, and 563 have to be carried by ourselves? If you can answer tomorrow morning, I will be grateful, otherwise I have delivery tomorrow from 10 o'clock, so I will have to torment the store managers ...
Thank you in advance!
prascovia
Hello! I have 560. Cleans first in one room and then goes to another. To completely discharge the battery, you have to close the door. It does not beat on the legs, but as if pokes.
PS We changed our name - now our name is Jacob. (Big hello to the Gypsy)
Svetlana2010
Veselena, I'm sorry I didn't answer right away. Rumba himself runs through the rooms if the doors are open, I close him in each room separately, and then let him out (that is, I open the door and he goes into the corridor or wherever he wants). Yesterday I dragged them (rumba, and then scuba) to the bathroom, and then they cleaned the toilet in turn. There, too, everything had to be closed, since they strove to jump over the sill and jump out into the corridor. They are lovely, I adore them. Someone wrote that they are inconvenient and difficult to clean, I clean them with pleasure and it is not at all difficult, everything can be easily removed and put back in place.
Veselena
Svetlana2010, thanks for the details!
Rumba received today, she herself very businesslike climbed into charging and somehow quickly charged, but I decided to wait 16 hours just "just in case" Kotyara carefully bypasses the side for now, let's see what happens next .... I understand that the limit sensors you do not use movement, but just close the door ... Unfortunately, this will be a problem for us, because our elderly cat hates closed doors ... I will try with sensors, tomorrow I hope there will be a trial cleaning! I will write raptures later! I already have 2 girlfriends waiting for the test results ... I think that I also "rush" to the Internet - buy !!! THANKS again for your response and GOOD LUCK!
nakapustina
So I became the happy owner of Rumba (home-like brownie Kuzya). We thought for a long time and chose the 505 model. The most interesting thing is that my daughter dissuaded me from buying for a long time, saying that this was all nonsense. although later she ordered it herself through a St. Petersburg store.Our cat is very fluffy, now it sheds, white hair is everywhere in patches, but Kuzya is coping. The daughter, when they carried out the trial tests, said that we had never been so clean. I am very pleased that I have another assistant. Now it's up to Scuba
Neo
And I also wanted to know - no one has an irobot dirt dog?
They position it as street and for large garbage .. I’m thinking, it would probably be cool to go to the dacha .. But is it suitable for home?
And the price of czh is painfully low for irobot .. Apparently he is only a sweeper, no nasls ..
Boo Boo
Neo Yes that's right. The Great Dane is only a sweeper. I take rumba to the dacha, she cleans everything perfectly in the house. )))
My friend recently found somewhere a cheap analogue two-in-one. There is a sweeper and a washer at the same time. So look, there must be.
Boo Boo
Quote: Qween

I looked and found the cheapest Rumba-530 for $ 390. Is this a good model?
Yes, good. 530 and 520 are almost identical. 520 speaks Russian and seems to have a better cleaning algorithm (I don't know for sure). Do you need the base exactly? Find out how they are with service, whether they will be repaired under warranty (ugh, ugh, ugh, of course). Officials here 🔗 , they deliver to other cities, the service is there. There you can get a 3% discount, not much of course, but still. Be sure to read this 🔗 , here are a series of robots covered by the warranty.
Qween
Oh, Boo Boo, and I look at you like that!

The next day, after reading the topic, something loomed in my head. Now I read ixbt, and rummage on the Internet, in search of. When I can talk about something with the sellers, I will call Kiev and talk - I perceive the information well, and draw conclusions during the dialogue.

From reading our topic, I realized that the base is not needed, and programming too?

I looked at two sites (you, of course, have a discount, but I live in Ukraine ...)

It is a pity that we do not have a store where you can go and see robots, only on the Internet you can order.
Boo Boo
Programming is definitely not needed, IMHO. But the base ........., if you clean up when you are at home, then it is not needed. If you turn on the robot and leave for a long time, for example, to work, then you need it.
There is a discount for everyone in the irobot store, the password is Veronika Buyanova.)))
If the robot is much cheaper than an airbot. ru, you should think about it, most likely it was brought into the country unofficially. I will advise you to write a letter 🔗 and find out who is officially engaged in robots in Ukraine.
kolynusha
Neo, while there is no Dopplet, I will answer. If the purchase price exceeds 10t. rub., then according to our legislation you must pay 30% of the amount in excess of these 10t. rub. (at the post office). Shipping costs are not included, so you pay 10 + 2 thousand rubles.
IRR
Neo! and FSE-FSE-FSE !, I apologize, I read the topic on raids - I understood from your posts that the most important negative (and also the only) factor for you was a loud noise during work? Despite the fact that he collects garbage well? But as rumba works? I watched videos about her on a yu-tube - also, you know, not a breath of light breeze ... Rumba owners, answer me - how many DCs do you have? For me, the noise level is not critical, but all the same, I would like to make a complete picture.
Boo Boo
Quote: IRR

Rumba owners, please answer - how many DCs do you have? For me, the noise level is not critical, but all the same, I would like to make a complete picture.
I cannot answer your question. I am not annoyed, especially since I almost never find myself in the room where he is cleaning. Although no, I can collapse on the sofa with a book and turn it on, or watch TV. It is practically impossible to move around the room where Rumba works. )))) All the time you will stumble over him, he is drawn like a magnet to his feet. My dishwasher is probably louder, but my dishwasher is not the quietest. A regular vacuum cleaner is also louder. I don't even know what to compare with.
dopleta
Neo, about the volume - Boo Boo already answered, I would write the same. And about the cost, everything is not as it wrote kolynusha... When I bought Scuba, every penny was calculated immediately "in the basket", and no changes occurred. The cost of the robot plus the cost of delivery plus processing the order - the entire amount was registered at one time when placing on the site (I wrote above, I don't remember exactly now, something ~ 12,000 thousand, I think). On the same day, they call back from the branch in Chicago, and within three days you need to go to your local office and place an order. They also give him out there. But after Scuba, I made a few more orders (for example, the Sanyo multicooker and something else), and now, every time they call from the States, they inflate prices in comparison with those that are written on the site, each time explaining this with a different color, then with a different weight, then with a different configuration
musyanya
It seems to me that the rumba makes a noise like not a loud hair dryer (there are noisy ones), or like a children's radio-controlled car ... Telev I always watch the izor with a low volume, when my Kuzya vacuums, I have to turn up the sound louder. If an ordinary vacuum cleaner makes a noise, it is not possible to talk on the phone, nothing is heard. It is quite possible to talk to a working Kuzey on the phone without straining your ear. If the apartment is not cramped, the robot does not bother anyone, although it is noticed that it breaks and tries to open the door to the room where the guests are sitting and clean up there. In a cramped apartment, like ours, the robot really runs after us, tries to call in and vacuum our legs ... Usually we turn on Kuzya and go for a walk.
If you read something, then I think Kuzya is not a hindrance to me at all ...
Neo
Quote: BooBoo

Programming is definitely not needed, IMHO. But the base ........., if you clean up when you are at home, then it is not needed. If you turn on the robot and leave for a long time, for example, to work, then you need it.
And I think someone like. My friends have a programmable robot, so they programmed it for a weekly cleaning and communicate with it only for cleaning the container :) We are very satisfied :)
We probably won't be able to do this, because there are many places in the apartment where he could theoretically get stuck, so I'm not sure yet that we will be able to include him in our absence ...

As for the noise - yes, a really children's RC car is the most appropriate comparison! It doesn’t make any noise, like a vacuum cleaner, but buzzes like a machine :) Actually, children can probably play in it (in the one that has a remote control) - change directions for him :)) Combine business with pleasure :)

Well, in general, my and I got used to each other, took out a LOT of garbage. Cleans great! I couldn’t believe that it was so dirty here .. It's even a shame to be honest :(

The only thing that I absolutely do not like about it is cheap flattering red plastic and silver finish - IMHO rumba looks more solid .. But for the sake of the difference in price, you can close your eyes to beauty :)
Boo Boo
I still don't see any point in programming, what prevents you from pressing a button when leaving? And then, for example, I don't always know who and where will be tomorrow, and if all family members are at home, then it will be problematic to start the robot. If this function did not almost double the cost of the robot, then it probably can.
The robot can get stuck when its wheel hangs. In my apartment I have no such traps, but in the country there are a couple. Of all the other situevins, he somehow extricates himself.

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