Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

[Irina]

Irina, we do not have any of the above from here and the choice between Princess and Tristar. The rest are either much more expensive, or completely unknown manufacturers.

[Olga]

Olga, I tried to study your question, but there is very little information on the Internet. I'm leaving without advice.

[Lerele]

Lerele, Well? Have you bought an oven or are you still thinking?
but how do you install it on mikra? won't fit

And I have today not a bummer, but a bummer. My baking sheet came (absolutely the same as mine!), I asked him to look at it, and there - two corners of the enamel were slightly erased, and at the bottom there was a dent. Moreover, the enamel on the dent is absolutely intact, the impression is that at first this dent appeared, and then the baking sheet was covered with enamel. Terribly upset, I refused to pick it up ... I talked to Eurolux, they do not admit their guilt - we, they say, check everything before sending. So I sit and think - to repeat the order or, well, it?

Irish, why not repeat? You didn't pay for a deformed baking sheet, did you?
And let them send until the normal one is sent.

[Ritual]

Ritual, ordered. A frightened crow is afraid of a bush, and so am I. All upset. And I didn't pay for this one.



Better. They sent a message - the trays are over ...

[Irina]

Irina, oh what a pity. They are on the site, but the price has been increased. In a photo warehouse for 65 liters, a baking sheet costs 186 rubles.

[Irish]

Yes, Irish, the price is fabulous, the most expensive for my stove (45 l). We changed the meter the other day, drove into a "gas" store, and I accidentally came across a flat aluminum baking sheet, apparently to the Belarusian Hephaestus. Terribly dusty, I didn't see it right away, 270 p. Fits perfectly in my oven, but only on the grate. And I would like to go into the grooves.

Girls!
I am again to you for advice. Is the 21 l oven very small? can someone with a similar volume have what she can accommodate?

what did you choose? I would like to have an oven at my dacha, but the sizes of 40-60 liters are scary. There are only three of us. I am quite satisfied with the volume of an average multicooker. Of course, I would like to "in one bottle", but I don't see it for an acceptable price.

Did not choose .... brushed aside the Turkish Simfer and others like them. I didn't like the quality at all
40L and more do not consider at all
My range is 20-30L
I move between 20L Domo and Severin and 32L Delongy
The last one is the hardest and largest, but so specific! with great reviews!
2 others also seem to be quite good and miniature
owners of Delonge and Severins! Respond! say a few words about your stoves plz
There is no Domo in Russia, if you have to trust the opinions of Europeans.

Girls! Where are you! Awww! and the boys too! surely there are owners of Delongy ovens! Are there any jambs in it?
New people sell very inexpensively. Only the sizes are embarrassing and I look forward to your feedback!

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, Vikait seems that manyuny-Delongy have Marysya27, but something has not been seen here for a long time. When I need it soooooo, I cheat in a personal.

[Irina]

Irina, so Marysya Gemlux recently bought something like

Yes, but she had a manunya, and she praised her.

And my manyny in assistants today at the big Princess was:

Vikul, look - this is Alla about her Delongy before the Gemlux.

[Irina]

Irina, Ira! Thank you so much! went to Alla in a personal

After refusing the baking sheet that came, I already made an order 3 times, each time my order is canceled. In correspondence with the operator, they say that the trays are over.And I know for sure that they are! Yesterday they called and argued that there COULD NOT BE any marriage! Like, we'll wait for your baking sheet, then we'll see. And only today I was able to throw off a photo of a baking sheet from my phone (I took pictures at the point of issue)

Would you take such a baking sheet? I sent them these pictures, and in response - silence. Maybe I'm wrong? I have never had this, how much I bought in IM.

Irishenka, don't you worry about this baking sheet ?! I sent it back and good. Let them already deal with their baking sheets. Why are you?! Please don’t worry.
I, of course, would not take one either. The marriage is obvious, and they still have to pay money for it ?!
Well, no, they don't give a fuck about butter.
Maybe more in other stores to see?

[Ritus]

Rituswhat a smart girl - you always support, thank you! Precisely these I have not found anywhere else. According to reviews - Eurolux is a responsible, serious store. But this is the first time I come across such an attitude towards clients. They say: these are, they say, consumables, what do you want? I ordered "consumables" - in St. Petersburg, attachments for the Kitfort steam cleaner. So the girls there came up with a package for them: they put two cartons with wide scotch tape one on one, inside these nozzles and wrapped it all with a good layer of scotch tape. But these are unpretentious plastic things. And then a baking sheet with fragile enamel was slightly wrapped with tape - seen in the photo.

[Swan-Seagull]

Swan-Seagull, they hammered screws or something? Do not worry, I have not seen any under my oven at all, so I think either one and the grate is enough, or from the fact that cut off the excess from the old stove with a grinder

[Swan-Seagull]

Swan-Seagull, Ira, most likely the whole party with marriage! Therefore, the order is canceled. Don't worry, everything will be fine

Girls, thanks for your support! I'm waiting until Monday, when they get my baking sheet back and they make sure it's a marriage. I was really too nervous, it was a shame that they did not believe it. Let's see what happens next.

most likely the whole party with marriage

so that's just the point - on the phone he tried to convince me that this could not be, all the trays are tested before shipment.

Good evening, what if my experience for small kitchens is useful to someone. I was going to change the countertop and for this case I removed the built-in oven (I did not use it at all) and the hob (I only made coffee). I ordered a cabinet from the same company, where I put a small oven for 38 liters, and also bought a Gemlux infrared tabletop to use any utensils (on the top shelf it is together with a multicooker and a double boiler for the Element). I am very satisfied. So much working space - even roll out the dough, even take out the oven, even the tiles. Thanks to Rita Rituslya - helped with the dimensions

So much working space - even roll out the dough, even take out the oven, even the tiles.

And even firefighters with a hose can extinguish without hindrance ...

1) If the kitchen is small, then you drastically reduce the free space by open table doors.
2) Considering that you put the oven in a closed space where there is no convection (judging from the photo it seems so), the heating of the walls and shelf of the table will be on the verge of extreme.
3) Honestly, operating an oven actually standing on the floor requires a very specific gymnastic training for the cook.

But your choice is your choice!

And even firefighters with a hose can extinguish without hindrance.

You have not carefully read what I have written. For cooking in the oven, I take it out into the free space, after cooking, I clean it, as well as the tile. The rest of the time I can do whatever I want in this space.

[helenanik]

helenanik,

Yes, I must confess to being inattentive.
True, I have an excuse: relatively indirectly it is said about the operation of the oven on the work surface!
Sorry for the immodesty, do you have three slow cookers?

relatively indirectly said about the operation of the oven on the work surface!

Well, of course - So much work space - even roll out the dough, take out the oven at least even a tile.

get the oven out

I read this carefully (the second time, really). Here is the indirection in what to get is not to cook!

Sorry for the immodesty, do you have three slow cookers?

three, but the third is quite old, it is in the closet. And the black is Russell Hobs slow

I read this carefully (the second time, really). Here is the indirection in what to get is not to cook!

well, yes, like to see if everything is all right

actually standing on the floor

Oh yeah. I bought a mini oven and am thinking not to sacrifice the countertop in favor of the desktop PMM. Although there were so many problems when she was there and it hurt my eyes, and I wanted to remove it so as not to see ... Now I don't see it, but I use it even less often.
It's hard to say, maybe temporary problems are better than permanently sticking out devices that could create the appearance of freedom?

For cooking in the oven, I take it out into the free space, after cooking, I clean it

I also have a small kitchen. Nevertheless, I took the desktop oven precisely in order not to bend over to the stationary one. And to drag her back and forth every time - why is she even needed? Personally, my opinion, because my back will not stand such exercises!

[Swan-Seagull]

Swan-Seagull, it depends on how often you use it and how heavy the oven is. I am mine with one left - it weighs nothing at all and almost shifts when I try to open the door. But on the whole I agree - I really don't want to bend over when it's hot or even liquid ...

I also have a small kitchen. Nevertheless, I took the desktop oven precisely in order not to bend over to the stationary one. And to drag her back and forth every time - why is she even needed? Personally, my opinion, because my back will not stand such exercises!

Irina, 38 liters is not at all heavy, I just raise and put her, but if your back is bad, then this is probably not for you

I am mine with one left

Anh, well, this is if you move the stove along the countertop in order to wipe the dust under it (yes, it is not heavy). The author of this question, for each use of the stove, takes it out of the cabinet, from the floor level, and then back into the cabinet. It's stressful. Well, unless you use it once a year. And I use it every day!

[Swan-Seagull]

Swan-Seagull, so I say depending on how often. My oven has been idle for years, if I remove this from the curbstone, it will also stand because it is not convenient to control what is there and how it is ready.

The author of this question, for each use of the stove, takes it out of the cabinet, from the floor level, and then back into the cabinet. It's stressful. Well, unless you use it once a year. And I use it every day!

Irina, I in no way impose my idea on you, use it as you like. I immediately wrote - m. B. someone will use my experience. It's so convenient for me, and yes - I don't use it often, about once a week, so it's not a problem for me (!) To get it.

[helenanik]

helenanik, you are absolutely right, everyone has their own scenario.

at least get the oven out, at least the tiles

so you have to carry it?
have written already well, and so of course. Personally, I carry a lot from place to place, but I still want to lock the mini-oven on the micra.

do you have three multicooker?

so it's quite modest, here many have much more.

I also have a modest one with this .. there is no place

so as not to lean towards the stationary.

in addition to the expensive eletro, this is also a problem. And you have to wash it somehow, almost lying down.

I am mine with one left

Anya! what is yours?

Personally, I carry a lot from place to place, but I still want to lock the mini-oven on the micra.

Vika, I thought about this and that, but this mini looks very cumbersome on the countertop in a small kitchen. Therefore, I found a simple option for myself.It is not at all heavy for me, the micra is much heavier, here it is on my windowsill.

Therefore, I found a simple option for myself.

In my opinion - a great option.I drag mine from the loggia, well, there was no place for her in the kitchen, unfortunately

well, there was no place for her in the kitchen

Mine is generally in the bedroom, I don't carry it anywhere, it's just business, that what has already been prepared should be taken to the room and put in the oven, and then taken out.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, I have redmond. I bought it while there were temperature discounts. Of the shortcomings, there is no separate adjustment of the temperature of the upper and lower tens, you can only turn it off along the way if necessary. It's a pity, of course, but I never had this in a gas stove before.

I drag mine from the loggia, well, there was no place for her in the kitchen,

if you really want or need a thing and there is no place, then quite the norm!

I have redmond

aah, I see!

Mine is generally in the bedroom,

listen .. I'm also thinking about the room, but not the bedroom

she's going up the stairs, otherwise Mom will soon go to herself, so I might add it to her room, but now she ... in my opinion, she will object

here she is on my windowsill

I noticed that many keep their kitchen toys on the windowsill. But how to open the window? sometimes it is necessary very much.

I noticed that many keep their kitchen toys on the windowsill. But how to open the window? sometimes it is necessary very much.

I have a window sill in the window block with a door to the loggia. In general, I made a blind window that does not open, only a window. But the door to the loggia is always open.

I always have a little afochka on my windowsill. That half of the window does not open unless during a general cleaning. The second half for ventilation leans back, the technique does not interfere with this, and at times either a dryer or a suvid live there. So to completely open it is not necessary for me - cats. Well, again, it is of course bulky, but it weighs a lot less than a pressure cooker or this induction element, where only a bowl is about 1.7 kg

I have a sill in the window block

It is specially designed for your assistants

The second half folds back for ventilation

Yes, I also have the same, but sometimes you need to urgently get out to shout to the postman-Runuu! wait a second! and then until I reach the door, he will leave and for the next purchase I have to go to the post office.

It is specially designed for your assistants

yes, it is very successful when a loggia adjoins the kitchen. I made closets there Sorry for the flood

Sorry for the flood

Well, why - we must share how who places their assistants. I have narrow window sills, you can't really put the equipment there. This is how my oven stands:

and this is a continuation of the table top (only 2 m!)

Bosik and Tortilka go to their storage place, only the oven and Berner remain.
She dragged Mikra to the second refrigerator, a little obliquely - there are steps on the right, with the second it is convenient for her to use

My window sills are narrow, you can't really put the equipment there.

Irin, I also had a narrow window sill, I then screwed thick steel strips from Leroy to it and put them on them, and when I changed the window, I immediately ordered a window sill of 35 cm.

and this is a continuation of the table top (only 2 m!)

yes, you won't overclock too much

This is how my oven stands:

Can you please tell me, are you putting something under your feet for what? To prevent heat damage to the countertop?

No, Len. Everything is silly simple - when the tabletop was installed, there was a slight slope, which I now level with folded notebook sheets under the front legs! The entire alteration is postponed until the repair, but it is not soon, alas.

when the tabletop was installed, there was a slight slope

tin, I sympathize, everything probably rolls down?