Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Girls! can a mini-oven be installed on a micra? Does its body get very hot during cooking?
We have such cool ovens with a spit. very budget and with good reviews. But there is absolutely no place for it in the kitchen, just the crazy idea came to install it on the microwave from above.

I hung the stove over the microwave on the brackets. I left a height between them so that you could put pizza plates (they are more than 30 cm in diameter) and microwave lids (close the plates when heating).

[Marina]

I left a height between them so that you could put pizza plates (they are more than 30 cm in diameter) and microwave lids (close the plates when heating).

Marina, is the distance between them approximately equal to the height of the lid? I also think to install them in a similar way. Only the idea was to install a stove from below, and a micra on top. And my micra is very heavy, I don't know why it's heavy, maybe because there is a grill in the micra. We have the simplest micra at work, so it is light. And I thought to hang the mikru on the brackets, but it is heavy. You Marinagave me a good idea to change the oven with micro levels. The stove is much lighter. thanks for the idea

The stove is much lighter.

And from her more warmth.

Does its body get very hot during cooking?

The top and bottom of the stoves heats up more than the sides due to the fact that the shadows are nearby. Even in the instructions for the stoves, it is indicated that on each side, for air circulation, there must be a distance of at least 12 cm. And if you put it as you want, as if on a micro, which will be below, the paint will not melt. The temperature is not low. If you touch the top or bottom of the stove with your hand during its operation, just quickly touch it and immediately remove your hand, then of course you will not get a burn. But you can't keep your hand on the stove for a long time. It can in no way be compared with a multicooker in terms of temperature on the surface outside.

And from her more warmth.

This is understandable. It's just better to put the lighter unit on the brackets.

It can in no way be compared with a multicooker in terms of temperature on the surface outside.

My multicooker practically does not heat up outside. :-)

My multicooker practically does not heat up outside. :

I'm talking about the same

I'm talking about the same

This is ours, like him, but - I remembered. Consensus. :-)

Consensus.

I took the brackets on Ozone like this, they can withstand a weight of up to 40 kg - Holder MWS-2002, Metallic bracket for microwave. And the distance between the stoves left 25cm for convenience.

And the distance between the stoves left 25cm for convenience.

Good distance.

Holder MWS-2002,

I'll take a look and study.

It's just better to put the lighter unit on the brackets.

Luda, my microwave is the same, heavy, has been standing for many years on brackets at eye level.

[Ludmila]

dLudmila, Yes Yes! really you can't install the stove anyhow where, especially on a micra. I will continue to think
Ladies! and the brackets are attached directly to the wall? she probably also heats up when the stove is working

I have the same microwave, heavy, has been standing for many years on brackets at eye level.

Yes, many have it on brackets. I'll think about how and where to put everything, I just have to change the kitchen. and working surfaces completely "the cat cried".

and the brackets are attached directly to the wall? she probably also heats up when the stove is working

Yes, the brackets are attached to the wall.When the stove is in operation, the entire space around it heats up, including the wall. Well, the wall is at least something. But if you put a stove in a furniture niche, and there is a rear furniture wall in the niche, then this is not desirable.

Tell me the models of ovens with a temperature of 250-350gr, the more the better.

with a temperature of 250-350gr, the more the better.

DELTA D-023

Today I went to Eldorado, there were stoves of about 7 firms. Of these, if not only those. data, but only the type and quality of materials and workmanship, I liked only 2 models. Moulinex 464810 and Zimfer m4558.
The rest is scary to look at. By the way, only Zimfer has rubber insulators.

Something the branch has quieted down, it's just suspicious whether it is being read or not. Looking for a stove, my interest drove me to the vastness of Aliexpress.
And here's what I found. The stoves are much more crammed with shades from 2 to 8, and a variety of temperature regimes. Many have 3-4 different blowing patterns, they have temperature control up to 1 g. And most importantly, the temp sensor. stands in the oven itself, as in large ovens. I have a question, who took the stove for Ali. At one time, I took a Kenwood combine in Germany, the box is huge, weight 26-28 kg with attachments, everything went fine, they didn't even crumple the box. I anticipate statements that China, etc., and for that kind of money and Shteba, you can take Unol and Romelbacher. This is not entirely true. Money may be those, but tech. the equipment is not at all the same. For money, they go from 10,000 rubles to 18,000 rubles. ex. is free. Who knows what the pictogram means a chef's hat, and inside it is a stylization of steam.

I again have a question - what are the most optimal dimensions of a tabletop oven and its parameters. I understand that everyone has different requests and that's it.
A new idea came to me. still hoist it on the micra and shoot it when you need to use it. This is about 15 liters and not heavy .. but it's not very small? besides 3 buters, something will fit into it more?

I again have a question - what are the most optimal dimensions of a tabletop oven and its parameters. I understand that everyone has different requests and that's it.
A new idea came to me. still hoist it on the micra and shoot it when you need to use it. This is about 15 liters and not heavy .. but it's not very small? besides 3 buters, something will fit into it more?

I'm the opposite of my micro. I'm free, Samsung CE118P is cool, everything is there, we have 9000r stot in Eldorado. I will give it to members of the forum for little money, only sending it at their expense. It has everything. My inquiries for the oven, these are widths. from50cm. height from 35cm.
In general, in order to sing in it not only a trifle, which I do not do., But more for prigot. dishes and, most importantly, bread.
I consider 35-45 liters.

Something the branch has quieted down, it's just suspicious whether it is being read or not.

Read, but of course. One of my favorite topics.

Who knows what the pictogram means a chef's hat, and inside it is a stylization of steam.

When I don’t know the answers to a question, I don’t answer. Likewise, others do not answer, which does not mean that they do not read. And ideally, if the size of the kitchen allowed me, then I would not buy a tabletop oven, but a stationary email. oven + gas stove with gas oven. The latter is required.

This is about 15 liters and not heavy .. but it's not very small? besides 3 buters, something more will fit into it?

I don’t know for 15 liters, but someone from the members of the forum used 20 liters and quite successfully. They wrote about this somewhere at the beginning of the topic ... I remember and baked pies and buns and even pies quite successfully. Only it is necessary to adapt to it. High baked goods will not fit there, of course.

Moulinex 464810 and Zimfer m4558.

Of the two, the second oven is preferred. It is heavier in weight, which is good, well, and the volume is larger, the glass is double.

I have a question for the stove specialists.
Can I send them in a personal link to the stoves that I liked on Ali. to study them and give me advice on them.

here we have an aunt selling a new Delongey stove for a cheap price.
Ladies and not only! who has one? what can you say about her?



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Which oven to choose? Steba kv23 eco line or Moulinex OX444832? Tell me please! I read a lot about steba on the forum about their jambs and marriages. How is moulinex doing?

Which oven to choose? Steba kv23 eco line or Moulinex OX444832?

But how can you advise on this issue? Indeed, even in terms of the appearance of the stove, there may be different preferences. And marriage is found in the stove of any brand. And here I would prefer to choose for myself a stove with a long warranty period. The stove Moulinex OX444832, this period is 2 years, which would be important for me, and the Steba kv23 eco line has a guarantor. term 1 year. But from an aesthetic point of view and for some additions, that is, there is a spit, there is a pull-out baking sheet for crumbs, I like Steba kv23 more of these two ovens. Although it may be a spit-on chicken in such a small chamber and not very well placed, the shadows will hurt when the spit is turned over. But let it be a spit, you never know what comes to mind. And if we compare the weight of the stoves, and this is the thickness of the metal, then the Steba kv23 eco weighs 6.8 kg, and the Moulinex OX444832 weighs about 5.5 kg. , but she did not have a spit and did not see a baking sheet (pull-out under the shades) for crumbs, and they also weigh something. It is just as important for me to be able to come to a retail store and feel this oven, look at it, write everything you can. And if you order in an online store (which does not have retail in your city), then if you need to hand over the stove in case of a malfunction, then where to take it and at whose expense will the shipment be? As for the Moulinex OX444832 stove, I don’t remember if someone here. The name itself flashed not very long ago in this thread, but I don’t remember how many liters it was, and whether the person chose it then to buy. That is why reviews may not appear about it. And, of course, I am not campaigning for some kind of stove, taste and color ...., if only because I have a ROLSEN 3026 stove.

Please advise a mini oven for small baked goods, but to have convection, spindle and light. So that you can buy in Ukraine and preferably not expensive?)))

and preferably not expensive?)))

In this situation, it is advisable to indicate a cost ceiling.

Moulinex 464810

I have such a stove, I bought it in the Revenge. In general, I am satisfied. Bakes well and evenly. The only drawback, in my opinion, is the lack of backlighting. Well, for me personally, a certain drawback was the size (any!) Of a mini stove in comparison with a stationary oven, because I got used to stove a lot at once on a large baking dish. And a mini-oven, not even the smallest one, is, after all, EXACTLY a MINI oven, Alas ...

double glass

The glass in Moulinex is also double. Rubber insulators are also in place. And the volume for a mini-oven is, in principle, not small. It's just that, as I understand it, a large oven would be more suitable for me ...



By the way, when I bought it, this model was not even close in Eldorado in our city (I don’t know how it is now), it was a little tough with stoves there - only 3-4 models were available. The rest - on order after prepayment. This did not suit me, because I prefer to look at the product first, and then pay! The same situation was in M-Video - you, they say, order, pay, and then we will bring it ... I preferred to take in the Revenge the one that was actually available and which you could first see - touch, turn on-check, and only then pay! Well, in principle, I do not regret that I did just that! And she didn't take the pig in a poke. The stove works well, it performs its functions with a bang. I got used to the lack of backlighting, especially since I did not have it in a gas oven either ...

Please tell me if you choose between ROMMELSBACHER BG 1805 / E and Steba KB 41 Eco.
Whichever one heats up less, which one picks up temperature faster.
Those. their data is the same. How they look, quality and so on that will determine at a glance.

[pushkar]

pushkar, was ROMMELSBACHER BG 1805, baked well, warmed up a little, was very pleased, but, unexpectedly, for no apparent reason, the glass in the door shattered into small fragments, sent to the trash, repair would have cost the price of a new one, and she still looks like simple

[pushkar]

pushkar, was ROMMELSBACHER BG 1805, baked well, warmed up a little, was very pleased, but, unexpectedly, for no apparent reason, the glass in the door shattered into small fragments, sent to the trash, repair would have cost the price of a new one, and she still looks like simple

Got it, thanks.
There was the last hope for the German technology, and then a puncture.
Apparently you will have to take on taobao. I put aside and study 5 firms with 3-5 stoves each. According to the descriptions, of course, a lot richer than everything that prod. with us, but this is China.
I really don't know what to do.

[pushkar]

pushkar,

ROMMELSBACHER BG 1805

also made in China, I decided for myself that these ovens exist as a compromise and should be treated accordingly, it makes no sense to buy such things for 20 thousand (for me) I would rather change those that are cheaper as they fail ... Now I bought one stove, not expensive, but very worthy

[pushkar]

pushkar, also made in China, I decided for myself that these ovens exist as a compromise and should be treated accordingly, it makes no sense to buy such things for 20 thousand (for me), I'd rather change those that are cheaper as they leave building. Now I bought one stove, not expensive, but very worthy

Yes, that's understandable.
Now I'm looking at Panasonic in China, the original one and studying the original. firms of Chinese manufacturers, I am faced with a choice, the original Panas (a good oven, all that is needed or the original China, but stuffed with it, It stops that if something flies out from a stuffed device on the electronic part, it is unlikely that they will do it in our workshops.


These ones.

[pushkar]

pushkar, "Panasonic" microwave oven, original, Japanese, worked for 11 years, maybe it would have worked longer, but I already wanted a new one, didn't repair it, bought the same Panasonic, but already Chinese, threw it out after 2 years

with disgust

The glass must always be attached to the "frame", and not top-bottom, as in the picture, (this option crumbled for me).

Panas in the picture is also original, made in China.
Now everything is done in China, with the exception of especially expensive and iconic goods.
I bought a lot of clothes and other goods in America and England, what they do in America and England is very expensive, just compare the original American jeans and those that are sold. all over the world. A ex. to buy clothes in England, just do not approach mortals.

The glass must always be attached to the "frame", and not top-bottom, as in the picture, (this option crumbled for me).

About what glass and how to understand up and down

[pushkar]

pushkar, Yuri, forgive me my technical cretinism, as I can, and I will explain the glass in the door can be inserted in two ways.
1. In a frame made of metal, that is, framed by a metal frame both on the outside and on the inside
2. The glass is attached at the bottom and top, and on the sides the glass is not framed by anything

I bought a lot of clothes and other goods in America and England

What China does for America, England and Germany is at times different from the Chinese one that sells Chinese T-shirts brought from America, I wear with pleasure, and we'd better buy Ivanovo or Belarusian jersey

What China does for America, England and Germany is at times different from the Chinese one that sells Chinese T-shirts brought from America, I wear with pleasure, and we'd better buy Ivanovo or Belarusian jersey

I don't need to be convinced of this, I completely agree. both about firms and about brands, but China also makes excellent goods for itself, it is important to find out which brands are just those that are worth taking.

[pushkar]

pushkar, was ROMMELSBACHER BG 1805, baked well, warmed up a little, was very pleased, but, unexpectedly, for no apparent reason, the glass in the door shattered into small fragments, sent to the trash, repair would have cost the price of a new one, and she still looks like simple

I also have ROMMELSBACHER, only BG 1550. I bought it in 2014. It still works properly and without problems. The glass is all right. I use it daily)

I also have ROMMELSBACHER, only BG 1550.I bought it in 2014. It still works properly and without problems. The glass is all right. I use it daily)

Tell me, what does it mean in the description of the oven-spreading chamber. This is written on the German site.

Now everything is done in China, with the exception of especially expensive and iconic goods.

And the dear ones do it there. I bought an iMac 27-inch candy bar computer. Made in China. And he's dear.

And the dear ones do it there. I bought an iMac 27-inch candy bar computer. Made in China. And he is dear

It depends on who thinks what is expensive.
I don't think what Loive TVs are doing in China. And the Canada Goose jackets don't do the same there. Copies and the original is unlikely.

It depends on who thinks what is expensive.

If many consider my mini-oven to be expensive, then this monoblock should fall into a very expensive segment.

If many consider my mini-oven to be expensive, then this monoblock should fall into a very expensive segment.

What candy bar do you mean.

What candy bar do you mean.

iMac 27-inch all-in-one computer.

Thanks Mila56 for the answer! I am still tormented by choices! Now I will ask about De Longhi EO 2430? Is it worth taking? Or else to search? I wanted to take steba kv23 eco, but for some reason it disappeared from mvideo. Or can you advise which reliable company for the manufacture of stoves and which ones should not be taken? What is the main thing to pay attention to? I need a small one, about 20-24 liters.

Now I will ask about De Longhi EO 2430?

I looked. An interesting stove. There is nothing superfluous in it, but all the basic functions are there. Its weight is 10 kg, which is very good for a stove of this volume. Non-stick coating of the chamber walls, as they say. 2 year warranty. Double glass in the door and, judging by the photo, has a frame inside and outside on all four sides, but this must be looked at in retail and checked. The legs seem to be rubberized, which would be good, otherwise the stove could slide over the surface. There is no convection in the stove, but it is quite possible to do without it. I don't even turn on the convection in my stove, except with rare exceptions. But it would be interesting to measure the distance between the upper and lower shadows in this stove. This figure may be especially important for those who will bake tall products (large cake or bread in baking forms). As a rule, a distance of 20-22 cm is sufficient. In my stove it is 22 cm, and in steba kv23 (I don’t remember 23 or 28 liters) it is also 22 cm. Maybe someone has this stove, we will wait for answers. And so, she liked it. Of course, any tabletop stoves should not be compared to email. oven stationary oven, at least they have too different weight categories.

Or can you advise which reliable company for the manufacture of stoves and which ones should not be taken?

I repeat that marriage can be found everywhere, and for this we have a warranty period.

After studying the possibility of buying a stove in China, the result of the sale is zero.
A lot of problems, I will not describe.
I'm going to buy in Russia. Tell me some points.
1. Many stoves are written to adjust the temperature from 100 to 250 grams.
Is there an adjustment from 0-100gr.
2. I choose from Delta models - Delta D-0524G and Breeze ЕН-35Е and Breeze ЕН-35 (Russia)
Who used these models, what is your opinion.

[pushkar]

pushkar, it is more convenient when you can leave the dough in the oven / oven to rise or prepare yogurt, meringue. These are temperatures below 100 degrees. Sausage, ham, etc. also require lower temperatures. From 100 is somehow not very good

[pushkar]

pushkar, it is more convenient when you can leave the dough in the oven / oven to rise or prepare yogurt, meringue. These are temperatures below 100 degrees. Sausage, ham, etc. also require lower temperatures. From 100 is somehow not very good

You understood me wrong. if the adjustment is written from 100g to 250g, almost all, and the graduation at all from 0 g. why are they silent about the temperature up to 100g.whether it is regulated or not. can I set it to 30-40 or 50 degrees.

Good day to all!!!! I wanted to write girls, but I realized that there are boys too.
Recently I bought a Bork W500 mini - oven. There is no limit to joy. I've already tried baking meat, pie, fries (like fries), everything turns out very tasty. We can say we became friends. But it turned out that way, fat dripped onto the lower heating element and remained a black spot.
Who has such a stove, please respond !!!! Tell me how to take care of your assistant? Thank you in advance!!!