Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Thank you, I read it there - my eyes run up, they still advise Luxel ... But today he has already bought a blender hastily (though there was no time to choose - she said to buy a cheap Polaris 0712, then I'll go and change it to a more expensive one, probably to Brown. I forgot that he was inevitable will go to get me a gift, but I’m sitting in real estate all the time - the deal is underway. ”The stove was postponed until March 8, so if anyone else writes, I’ll be glad, I have no time to read on the topic.

[Vita_K]

Vita_K, I want to say OOOYGGROOOOOMEEST thanks for the review of your oven. How did he help me !!! In Russia, I did not find your model, I ordered Kv 23 at Ozone. This is exactly the kind of oven I was looking for, it could have been a little more, but given that there are only 2 people in my family - I and a 3-year-old son, it is enough for us. Girls, thank you very much for sharing your impressions of the technique, telling how it really works. It makes life very much easier, well, what a sin to conceal and wheels too, but it's a pleasant waste.

Oh, girls, boys, what are you doing to me ... Six months ago, somewhere, accidentally wandered into this forum ... And disappeared! Lost for home, for friends, but for everyone! I have been living on the Bread Maker for half a year, and I just can't get out of here. And I don't want to, to be honest! : girl_wink: Aunt is 46 years old, and she, with a pencil in her hands and a notebook, writes down recipes, recommendations, brands-brands-models. I always thought that I cook well, but it turned out that I can't do anything at all !! Well, it doesn't matter, it's never too late to study, but oh, how I love to study! In addition, with the release of a well-deserved police rest, a huge amount of time was formed that needs to be used with benefit ... To begin with, I decided to change my ridiculous electric stove installed by the builders during the delivery of our house. Since there are two of us in the family, I decided to get by with a desktop induction cooker and a mini-oven. But something I got carried away with self-promotion, I apologize, in fact, my question is this: at the beginning of this topic I read that convection is harmful to baking biscuits. How true is this? If convection does not turn off, can the biscuit be baked in such an oven? (something tells me that I asked nonsense ...)

[SATURN 1076 stove owners]

is there SATURN 1076 stove owners(for 36L)? write pliz your impressions, and if suddenly it is not worth buying, dissuade me before it's too late (I want to order on Monday)
so

[Help guys.]

Help guys. I bought the aforementioned Saturn.

I ordered it on Tuesday morning, on Wednesday they called and said there will be delivery tomorrow. On Thursday, I spent the whole day at home and was not brought. in the evening I call and ask WHERE ??? the answer we write is that delivery for 1 number I say how so, did they say today? but I don’t know in response, etc. The day is ruined, the mood is also, thawed meat and puff pastry are in the cold, in general they brought it only today, the assembly is not so hot, the metal is thinnest, the chicken is immediately clear that it’s not baked on a spit it will work, otherwise it will rub off on the upper spirals, I closed my eyes to this and turned it on for the first warm-up

Included two tena, 250 degrees, 30 min. The smell is horrible, but for the first time I think it's forgivable. but when I looked inside at the end of the mode, I saw that the roof inside the stove bent and lay right on the spiral, even an imprint on the roof is visible because of this
did anyone have this? what to do? to return?

Of course, return, change to another company or model. Although I have a different stove, but here you can see with the naked eye that there is a defect. It's dangerous!

[1oksi1]

1oksi1, I would return ... The fact that the roof lies on the heating elements and heats up, accordingly, also up to 250 degrees - this is not at all safe and is fraught with consequences.Show photos when returning, so that there are no silly questions.

thanks girls, tomorrow I'll go to return
agony of choice again

[Owners of vimar stoves please respond pliz]

looked after Vimar VEO 3522. such
35L, 1500W, spit, lighting, convection and grill on / off if necessary, dimensions 48x35x37 (high)
It seems like what the doctor ordered and the price is small (777 UAH), but what quality I don’t know, there’s nowhere to feel

Owners of vimar stoves please respond pliz

[Lagri]

Lagri, tell me, how to find a recipe based on your photos, I would like to try juicing with cottage cheese, pies with jam)))

But the stove is interesting, I don't know was it? Price 5-6 thousand rubles.
VES Mini Oven SK-A20 with Bread Maker, Convection and Teflon Coated Baking Pan

My husband gave me this stove on March 8. What can I say, she really bakes. Moreover, without any dancing with tambourines. I highly recommend it to those who do not have the opportunity to buy a bread maker, do not have a good blender for kneading and need a convection oven. She combines everything in herself. You can simply knead and proof in it, and bake, for example, in a slow cooker (if you don't like the form). I don't know, however, how long it will last for such and such money. But for now, I'm happy to dabble. Now the chicken is spinning on a spit.
And this bread turned out like this (while we went for a walk):

Larissa, and she, as I understand it, is kneading? Is there a motor downstairs?
How big is the oven?

Igor, that's right, the bottom crumb tray is removed and a bread pan with a motor is installed instead. The photo above shows a hole from the motor. There is a full cycle from kneading to baking, including proofing. There is a quick bread, there is simply a "kneading" function, etc. Itself is in shock. The volume is not very large. I went and looked - 26 liters. Yesterday I made chicken drumsticks. Climbed 8 pieces. It's quite normal for us. So far, the only negative is there is no backlight

Before the new year, I was looking for a small desktop stove for my hobbies, so I also saw a microwave in the store - a Samsung convection oven for 6400 rubles with a bread maker function. There, a bucket is inserted like my Panasonic one, kneading is done, proofing. bakery products. For the sake of interest, I even tested it, and so it keeps the set temperatures very accurately.

Before the new year, I was looking for a small desktop stove for my hobbies, so I also saw a microwave in the store - a Samsung convection oven for 6400 rubles with a bread maker function. There, a bucket is inserted like my Panasonic one, kneading is done, proofing. bakery products. For the sake of interest, I even tested it, and so it keeps the set temperatures very accurately.

Wow, but I didn't even know about the existence of such stoves before. I read about multicooker with functions of a bread machine (Binaton and now Vitek), but I have not heard about ovens. Although I think that special devices with a narrow focus are of higher quality and more functional, the size of our kitchens makes adjustments to our desires.

What combinations of devices do not come up with! Well done bourgeois. Interesting, of course. how will the stove manifest itself later? Maybe he will do everything normally. There are no full reviews even after the lapse of time. So, Larissa, you are probably a pioneer. A backlight, I think. not a very important detail. A light bulb somehow burned out in my microwave, until I found the right one, I used it for 2 months without a light bulb - it's okay. This is more important for large ovens.
And another question - does it have a convection fan?

Igor, hello. Yes, the oven is induction. Or an induction oven and a fan are two different things? If different, then in the evening at home I'll see if there is a fan and how it looks.

No, the oven is not induction. These are cookers or multicooker that make this. TENA is visible in the photo.
I mean, the description says that there is convection. It's just that some manufacturers are a little cunning, meaning not forced convection (fan), but natural convection from heating (as in air heaters).Look, when the time is there, is there a fan on the wall?
Well, good luck with your cooking! "Squeeze" all her possibilities to the fullest. She looks so pretty. I'll go and see Steb's ovens, cute and interesting, though they didn't think of putting a bread machine in there ...

I'll go and see Steb's ovens, cute and interesting, though they didn't think of putting a bread machine in there ...

But they thought of putting a grill in there. When I saw it, I almost died of greed, this little Shtebochka is so pretty and I've dreamed of a grill for so long. But, the working bread maker calmed me down a little. I'll come in the evening to deal with the fan. Something I'm all confused with these inductions - convections. I was sure they were one and the same. Blonde

Laris, I was the scoundrel who made you look at all sorts of crap. So I would cook and cook and not bother myself. Damn.
In fact, of course, you need to know your oven well. When I bought the first Panasonic microwave oven, I also thought that the inverter is convection. Well, the seller explained it to me. Since then, I would rather figure it out myself than ask in the store.
That would not get into the jungle. Induction is another type of heating. It is made for electric stoves. He's not in your oven. There are heating elements.
A convection oven is when a fan drives the air through the oven. But why is it in a relatively small oven like yours? Therefore, I asked, especially as indicated in the description.

Good day. Can you please tell me if you can cook food packed in foil in Redber 5290? The instructions say "do not cook packaged foods in the oven, including those wrapped in metal foil." I want to bake the meat in foil. WHAT TO DO?

It's strange. Why not in foil? As I understand it, you have an ordinary oven without microwave function. Maybe the instructions are not quite so written?

[Lagri]

Lagri, tell me, how to find a recipe based on your photos, I would like to try juicing with cottage cheese, pies with jam)))

Lebetusik, I told you about it in PM. And I did not bake pies with jam.

Boys and girls, I'll duplicate my question: How does convection affect biscuit baking? And does it affect at all?

Look, when the time is there, is there a fan on the wall?

Igor, there is a fan, or a grate with holes on the right wall. I put my ear, something was making noise, but when I opened the door, I didn't really feel that the air was racing. Maybe she only works with the door closed? I will not bother. Works, fries, bakes - and thank God. How are you, have you chosen Steba?

Boys and girls, I'll duplicate my question: How does convection affect biscuit baking? And does it affect at all?

Nadia, I don't understand yet. The instructions say that it shortens the cooking time, saves energy and promotes even baking. There is nothing to compare with

Boys and girls, I'll duplicate my question: How does convection affect biscuit baking? And does it affect at all?

Our wife is mainly engaged in baking. But it is clear that you do not need to turn the baking sheet over when cooking) from the glass to the back wall).
Precisely baked evenly.
You can cook, for example, pizza on several levels at once.
As far as I know, it sets the temperature lower than in an old oven.

Igor, there is a fan, or a grate with holes on the right wall. I put my ear, something was making noise, but when I opened the door, I didn't really feel that the air was racing. Maybe she only works with the door closed? I will not bother. Works, fries, bakes - and thank God. How are you, have you chosen Steba?

Wow. Precisely with convection. It's good. Now just get ready! So it's good that I figured it out, otherwise it happens that my wife is asked something by a friend about the kitchen. technique, and she has to ask me again.
At refrigerators and ovens, you correctly noted Larissa, the fan turns off when the door is opened. That would not blow out the heat (cold).
I already have both big and small. I am eyeing the Stebe for 23 liters or a little less. I have a tiny Panasonic 8 liters. It is often convenient to cook in it, but I would like something more than 8 liters and no more than 20-23 liters. I think it will be a more versatile oven in addition to the main one.

Larisa and Igor, thanks for the information! I understand that everything is learned empirically. Boom to learn!

Oven connoisseurs, help with the choice, it turns out that now there is no Redber 4290 in St. Petersburg (so that it is convenient to pick it up), but there is close to 4230 - is it worse than that? I haven't looked at Shtebovskaya yet, it seems like it never happened before. I don't need HP, Panasonic bakes somehow. Redber is most praised, I always have a lot of love for Steba ...

I don't see Shteba's oven at all on sale, Rolsen 3025 has been removed from sale, and Redber is 4230 rubles 600 cheaper than 4290, the volume is the same, the power is also, so what is not in it, what is in 4290?

There is no convection in the 4230, which is sometimes a useful feature.

I don't see Shteba's oven at all on sale, Rolsen 3025 has been removed from sale, and Redber is 4230 rubles 600 cheaper than 4290, the volume is the same, the power is also, so what is not in it, what is in 4290?

Sasha, go to the Shteba website and ask them a question - where can you see and buy ovens in St. Petersburg. Surely they will prompt. They are responsive. I liked their oven with a grill on top.

I don't see Shteba's oven at all on sale, Rolsen 3025 has been removed from sale, and Redber is 4230 rubles 600 cheaper than 4290, the volume is the same, the power is also, so what is not in it, what is in 4290?

Look at OZONE. There is a Shteba for 23 and 38 liters. How much volume do you need.
Steb's technique is of very decent quality and the price is affordable. I do not buy much at OZONE, because I have no complaints. Take a look.

Thank you, of course convection is needed. I never bought it at Ozone, if there is of course I will take more. There probably is everything that Redber 4290 has, right?

Ozone has only a Teflon bowl and a ring for Shteba, they don't have a stove ...

Oh - both Shteby opened on Ozone, 23 liters is probably small, or is only one baking sheet in 38 liters? Mistletoe wrote that if less than 30 liters everything burns but is not baked.

Alexandra, I also thought that in the tabletop oven I definitely need convection, because before that I used the Ariston Hotpoint stove with this function.
So, according to this principle, I chose a larger one with convection, chose Dex 420, and concluded: in small stoves, convection is more of a publicity stunt, since the dimensions do not allow you to put a powerful large fan in there, and the sense from a barely audible air jet, in my opinion, no. I have something to compare with.
So do not buy this candy, and choose according to other criteria: size, design, the presence of 2 trays, etc. This is advice, you of course decide for yourself what and where to buy.

So Shteba has only 2 ovens on Ozone, both have convection, upper and lower heating, how many baking sheets in a 38-liter one are not written on the site. And the model that is one of all stoves in Germany is made - it is not written at all about convection and about volume. I don’t remember, did anyone here have already written their impressions about the Shtebov stoves? I don’t need anything special from the oven - bake meat for slicing and ordinary pastries.

Alexandra, look closely at the photo. Even in a small 23-liter one, Šteba has 3 empty places for a baking sheet (in the photo with pizza, there is a baking sheet under it and one more free one on top). And there is also a skewer, which is necessary for a small oven for even baking. Plus convection. Double glazing. Much more functions.
There are very good reviews for the pressure cooker, grills, souvidnits, that is, appliances that prepare food. I have a very small stove and then I'm looking at replacing it in addition to the main big one. I would take it without hesitation. Moreover, prices do not bite.

Now I returned a little back, where Vita wrote about her little Shteba, it seems to be necessary to take it, but maybe everything is 38 liters better ...

This is difficult to advise. I don’t know how often and what you mainly cook. I have a main oven, so it is in addition to it that it is desirable to have a small tabletop oven of about 20 liters. It is convenient to prepare small portions. And if you don't have a main oven, then I don't know, see for yourself. Then you should probably be 38 better.

There are no small ones anyway, I ordered KV 41, they will be brought to the pick-up point in 2-4 days.

good day. like many of those present here, I call for help !!! I can’t make a choice, for three weeks now I have been wandering through forums, reviews, shops ... and the whole family is still sitting without baking (((the stove is needed in the country house, where there is no oven, but there are 4 adults living permanently and often guests are neighbors))) that is, the volume is not needed small. mainly pies and pizza are baked. I would like to have good quality, the price is within 5-6 thousand. well, that is, I would not want to overpay, for example, for a well-known name, but if the quality is confirmed (for example, touching it while the stove is in operation does not cause third-degree burns), I am ready to pay extra. the presence of a spit, convection is not necessary. only a friendly interface is mandatory, since elderly people who do not like to study instructions will be used))) they need to understand everything intuitively))). thanks in advance to everyone who responds)))

Take, like Alexander, Shteba 41 by 38 liters. The volume is rather big. Now many people even buy expensive built-in ovens of a small volume (35-45 liters), and not huge ones of 70 liters. It will be quite enough for any baking and for a chicken ... Yes, and Still a German development.

Thank you very much for such a quick response. I study the question. like Alexandra, I can't find a staff on ozone. however, Alexandra managed as a result, I was not lucky. and I still can't figure out if a baking sheet is included. only the grille is indicated on the website for the shipment for this model ...

Natalya, try different ways to enter the search. Type Steba KB 41 or simply Steba in the website search engine. Pop up.
There is a baking sheet, wire rack and drip tray. Internal size 40x30 cm. Much more.

Natalya, I somehow didn’t manage to get to her on ozone right away, I didn’t understand how. Or by phone.

There were no small ones, but Mistletoe wrote to me that there was nothing to think about - I had to take 38 liters, and she was a pro. I have already received an SMS that has been sent for delivery.

It should be like this - Electronics, then household appliances, then kitchen appliances, and - ovens, grills, stoves. But something didn’t come out today.