help me choose two different bread makers

I already have a bread maker of unknown production. There is no name on the stove itself or in the instructions. She got it from the previous owners with an approximate age of 10 years. In principle, everything is fine except for one thing - a terrible smell in the baking process. in connection with which a replacement is needed. in the end I need one for me, another for my mother. Requirements below
for me
1.no smell
2.reliable (so that nothing falls off and is scratched to a minimum and the signatures under the buttons are not erased)
3.with possible child protection
4.with multiple kinds of bakeware
5.with separate kneading dough
6.the most quiet even when mixing
7.that the bread can be removed as easily as possible
8.with the possibility of programming (this is for my husband) I myself will hardly use it
for mum
1.no smell
2.silent
3.with separate kneading dough
4.that the bread can be removed as easily as possible
5.Easy installation of the tank
6.measured containers included
7.the simplest instruction (sequence of filling and recipes)
8.and of course fully Russified
9.that the process is started by pressing one button and not by selecting several parameters

nyta22,
1.Panasonic (or Kenwood-450, if programming is so necessary)
2. Panasonic (or Kenwood, if the ability to bake not only a rectangular loaf, but also a round one is so critical).

Only here are some points:
Panasonic has no programming. Kenwood has it.
Sometimes Panasonic has such a technical smell when baking, usually disappears after a couple of weeks of active use.
There is no protection from children (what is this? Have you met with bread makers?)
Panasonic has only one bucket shape, you can buy a round one from Kenwood.
At Panasonic one button starts only the "main" program for a large size. But this HP is completely Russified, one of the most reliable.
Who had the opportunity to compare, Panasonic is much quieter than Kenwood.

Thank you
I saw protection from children at some stove as an option, now I'm looking for which one.
For myself, I imagine this in the form of option 1. The case does not heat up. option 2. the body does not heat up and the lid does not open during cooking. I'm looking for something cheaper for my mother, otherwise she is afraid of expensive units

The Panas body practically does not heat up. As for the fact that the lid does not open - I have not heard. I have no questions with the children, except perhaps they are interested in poking their fingers into the dough, watching how the dough is kneaded, but this does not affect the quality of the bread. In addition, the children know that the stove can be hot in the middle, so they don't look in there without me.

As for the cheaper unit ... My father-in-law, having learned that I had acquired such a technique as HP, demanded exactly the same one. The result - already two he bakes only on one program (main, XL size). But this stove is practically trouble-free and fully justifies its price. By the way, you can make this stove "inexpensive" for your mother by choosing model 256 (without a dispenser and the "rye" program) and saying that this stove is of a middle price class (there are stoves from other firms that are much more expensive).

The minimum loaf in Panasonic is from 300 g of flour (+270 g of water + some for salt, sugar, butter). In general, a loaf turns out to be about 600 g.

Regarding the reliability of bread makers, you need to look at topics on specific brands - where they complain about what (by the way, average mulekas often complain about erasable inscriptions). You can look at threads comparing the two HP brands. For example, there are users here who have experience with both Kenwood-450 and Panasonic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9843.380

Yes, what more argument for Panasonic I will give - a big screen. I was faced with a situation when a mulinex was brought to a family where women have frankly weak eyesight. Even I, with my almost 100% vision, could hardly see something on this tiny display. Or can you imagine how much effort the owners have to make now if they have to bake something different from the daily worked out recipe (when you already know exactly what to press and how many times).

About the case. If I had a question about the choice, then the metal case (at the current level of knowledge) I would have dismissed immediately because of the children. And for Panas, even during baking, I can take on almost anywhere.

Thank you
I now have two, one 3 years old, the other 3 months. The elder is mastering the dishwasher, the younger, I think, will also catch up by the age of one.
A clear display has been added to the requirements.
The removable cover is also a big plus.
I wanted a metal case for myself, but in connection with the heating I will now think.
Mom is just one of those who need 4 programs to maximize everything else is superfluous.
I looked closely at the moulinex, but the information about the erasing inscriptions very much strained. True, the elder loves small buns, and is condescending to sliced ​​bread.
But what about the Panasonic with taking out the mold and taking out the bread, and can the lid be removed for washing?

[Maybe you shouldn't overpay for brands?]

I have never removed the lid or tried it. I wipe it with a sponge, that's enough.

The bucket is very easy to place - put it at a slight angle and turn. It may seem that the bucket is too loose in the grooves, but there is not much free play there. This may add reliability to the agitator assembly.

For mom, apparently, you still have to look for something in the subject Maybe you shouldn't overpay for brands?

For my mother, I gave links above, she needs not just a cheap, but a very simple stove (judging by my parents), but these are just stoves to which I gave links. Girls from the forum have such ovens, they bake very beautiful bread. And what else is the price of a feast for the eyes, the loaf is small, the stove takes up little space, there are only two buttons! And no displays

[nyta22]

nyta22 Panasonic has no problems with taking out the bucket, and there are no problems at all, the spatula almost never gets stuck and the lid is removed if necessary. How could it be otherwise with the ancestor of automatic bread makers? And the display is large and intelligible and works very quietly and the case practically does not heat up
From cheap I can advise the Alaska-ВМ2600 Bread Maker https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1997.0
if you have, of course, access to the Metro store

thanks for the alaska, but apparently it disappears due to the difficulties in removing the stirrer or is it all like that?

for mum
1.no smell
2.silent
3.with separate kneading dough
4.that the bread can be removed as easily as possible
5.Easy installation of the tank
6.measured containers included
7.the simplest instruction (sequence of filling and recipes)
8.and of course fully Russified
9.that the process is started by pressing one button and not by selecting several parameters

Mystery MBM-1202 is suitable for you - inexpensive and reliable.