Multicooker La Cucina Italiana EB-FC47

Porridge burns if you choose the wrong mode, and he is not alone there. For pasta, you can also choose the required time, which is regulated. That's it, I don’t want to look like a fan, and I’m not, she’s just the most popular cartoon out of my 4. Let those who now use both Kuchina and Panasonic write.

[I do not regret it, I use it]

And yet it is so difficult to choose between an Italian and Panas. Can anyone have both? Which one is better to take. There are not many good reviews about Cucina Italiana on the forum. I still have none and nothing to compare with. I really like the price in Italian.

I am the happy owner of both cartoons, and since I first read a lot about these pots, my Panasonic is still alive and well, despite a very vulnerable saucepan, I love it very much and my main pastries are there, I always use greased paper. .. (nothing burns, it has not peeled off so far), and I use Lakuchina in full - well, still there were no problems, it turns out baked goods (chocolate with boiling water, orange charlotte), although I don't really like after the second courses (its main purpose for me) is sweet to cook, but for the experiment I did everything ... it is convenient that there are many separate automatic time modes for frying, a double boiler, yogurt ... and most importantly that I I do not regret it, I use it because of its price and it has not yet suffered, if I buy another one, but I always shook over the panasik, and I look like it, but the fact that there are no pans to replace it, I don't care, something tells me that the buttons are from frequent depressions will fail along with the pan cover! We'll buy more, they are now a drain, that the eyes run up! In general, I have never regretted that I have Panasik and that I bought Lakuchina for help! (by the way, just by the accolades on the and here)

Everyone, I don't want to look like a fan

In what mode do you cook porridge? On the same forum I read that she is a girl who adds water first

I want both of them. I just don't know which one to take first

Take Lakuchina, maybe you won't want Panasonic anymore ...

Regular non-stick (stronger than Panasonic)

and double-sided.

In what mode do you cook porridge? On the same forum I read that she is a girl who adds water first

If I cook dry, crumbly porridge, then "boiling" is an automatic mode that works until the water is completely evaporated, it is good for pilaf. And if I need a brat, then I cook it in "soup".

[obgorka_gu]

and I like it in appearance, but the fact that there are no pans to replace, I don't care, something tells me that the buttons from frequent pressing will fail along with the coating of the pan!

obgorka_gu, the manufacturer's representative wrote that the question of selling spare pans is already being considered. Although, really, there is no problem to buy a new cartoon.

If I cook dry, crumbly porridge, then "boiling" is an automatic mode that works until the water is completely evaporated, it is good for pilaf. And if I need a brat, then I cook it in "soup".

How many minutes? Interested in a brat. And pasta? Boiling too?

How many minutes? Interested in a brat. And pasta? Boiling too?

Soup has a standard program, min. time 1 hour. It can be increased. And the pasta has its own time-changing program.

My function "pasta" is one of the most demanded - only I cook rice or pilaf on it, first I cook vegetable-meat zirvak on frying, vegetables,and then I turn on the pasta after the signal, add the well-washed rice, mix it thoroughly, fill it with water a little more than rice (in multi-cups, 1 more), close it as the pasta program ends, switch to the warming-food mode, leave it for 1 hour (sometimes more if forgotten), open to mix - everyone likes it! I did it only as an experiment on the soup, when the child was sick, my husband ordered rice with dried fruits, everything turned out, even probably delicious ... we just are not lovers, we barely finished eating

My function "pasta" is one of the most popular - only I cook rice or pilaf on it

Do you cook pasta on it? or cooking?

Let's try to make a pivot table "Features" - "Suitable for dishes". Here are my "Discoveries":
1. "Cooking" - for crumbly side dishes (rice, buckwheat); for "duet dishes" - complete with steamer basket, ...
2. "Baking" - for casseroles, muffins, biscuits, ...
3. "Yoghurt" - for yoghurt, curdled milk, dough proofing, ...
4. "Crust" - for pilaf, cutlets, ...
5. "Stewing" - for stewing meat, baked milk, ...
6. "Soup" - for soups, viscous cereals (including milk), ...
7. "Steamer" - by name ...
8. "Pasta" - for pasta, for porridge like semolina, ...
9. "Frying" - for quick frying, deep frying, ...
This is from a nearby forum. (I hope you could insert?)

and the lid is removed in it? in Ukraine you can find it where you don’t know?

Let's try to make a pivot table "Features" - "Suitable for dishes". Here are my "Discoveries":
8. "Pasta" - for pasta, for porridge like semolina, ...
This is from a nearby forum. (I hope you could insert?)

For porridge like semolina ??? , I only cook loose rice-pilaf-buckwheat there (I like it so much ...), I think the semolina will burn (IMHO), semolina for me is included in the category of "viscous porridge" therefore on the soup ...

and the lid is removed in it? in Ukraine you can find it where you don’t know?

The inner cover is removable. Today I saw the Ukrainian blessing Lakuchin on another Temka - Aurora 250 was discussed ...

My mother also told me about Aurora, she saw her in Kiev this week in black and pink. She says that she is beautiful, she is already breathtaking.

All night I dreamed that I was choosing a multicooker * JOKINGLY * I don't remember what I chose there. But here I definitely stopped at Lakuchin Most of all, probably, the lack of recipes stopped me and I was afraid that as a beginner I could not cope. So please share what and how you cook. I have already ordered MV, when I come I will write: bravo:

[dopleta]

Today I opted for Lacucina EB-F47
PLEASE NOTE F and not FC 47. Sellers said no difference.

bought in Domostroy, thanks dopleta for a tip to the store.
as I saw the price, I immediately decided.
The store was confused by the size: I wanted a smaller one.
The design and workmanship are not clear, but everything is acceptable. In general, I am still satisfied.

The first step was to cook millet milk porridge.
I cooked soup on the function (on the forum it seems like this was advised)
set for 1 hour. as with me.
I decided to cook one portion. like gas:
milk 250g
Millet 30 gr.
greased the bowl above the liquid with olive oil (silicone brush)

The milk boiled in 6 minutes. The foam has risen by 3 cm, but thanks to the oil it does not creep up. Thanks to the local Kulibins for the idea!

After boiling, the MB switched to the temperature maintenance mode and the foam completely disappeared.
The porridge was ready in 34 minutes from the start.
it was necessary to turn it off earlier, since all the milk had already been absorbed into the porridge and would have burnt a little more.
The porridge tastes normal. I have not experienced any super-admiration. (I really didn't hope for anything supernatural)
Now I put beef broth for green sorrel cabbage soup for a sample.
Then there will be the second: potatoes with meat - stew.
Well, I'll try to put in yogurt for the night.

I bought sterilized milk and a 100-gram jar of Actimel. Lcasei - Natural Immunovitamins. HZ what is it. shelf life - 1 month. found nothing perishable. I also took a 65-gram jar Bio-balance Imuno complex classic.

While I plan to take 1 liter of ultra-pasteurized milk Doyarushka (shelf life 3 months), pour in a jar of something from the above and put the yogurt program until morning.
Can it still boil? but lazily somehow
thank you all for your help. and who wrote their impressions on the forum and who advised me.

Yes, at the expense of the plastic smell:
I washed the bowl and removed everything I could.
Run in a double boiler to remove the forgotten odor. But I did not observe any foreign smells either in the kitchen or in the food.
But the bowl should have been slightly calcined with olive oil. (or any vegetable): anoint and warm a little. will pester less. But no one advised, and he forgot

And here is the first discontent:
I really did not like that you can change the cooking time not for all dishes. And where possible, so it is possible only in the big direction.
Moreover, it is not clear because the change function is implemented.
If, for example, stewing for 2 hours. the program is over, I tried it and I want another 10 minutes. so to turn on the extinguishing again and stand at the appliance for 10 minutes? or choose other functions? somehow incomprehensible and irritating. Yes, of course I will survive and adapt, but spoils the impression

Congratulations!!!!! It's good that we started right away with such complex dishes as porridge !!! The time does not change in my Kuku over 20,000, so this is normal ..... or rather it changes in all programs, but a big step !!! And on what you could not change?
I doubt about yoghurt that you will be able to do it .... I only do it on Activia, because there are LIVE bacteria there !!! And 100g per liter is not enough .... Why boil ???? You just need to mix it well .... I do it with a whisk .... look at what yogurt I get .... though it's 2 liters (this time)
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If, for example, extinguishing for 2 hours. the program is over, I tried it and I want another 10 minutes. so to turn on the extinguishing again and stand by the appliance for 10 minutes? or choose other functions? somehow incomprehensible and irritating. Yes, of course I will survive and adapt, but spoils the impression

After the end of the program, the heating function is automatically turned on, and if you did not have enough 10 minutes, then the dish will "come" on heating. As for reducing the cooking time (e.g. stewing), I have an idea how to accomplish this. But I didn't check. And the idea is this: by setting the "extinguishing" function (for which a time of 2 hours has already been set), using the "Programming" set the delay time, for example, 1 hour - if we want to reduce the extinguishing to 1 hour. Thus, we will not delay the preparation of the dish, but, on the contrary, will speed it up. Did you understand it? I'll try tomorrow.

[zvezda]

After the end of the program, the heating function is automatically turned on, and if you did not have enough 10 minutes, then the dish will "come" on heating. As for reducing the cooking time (e.g. stewing), I have an idea how to accomplish this. But I didn't check. And the idea is this: by setting the "extinguishing" function (for which a time of 2 hours has already been set), using the "Programming" set the delay time, for example, 1 hour - if we want to reduce the extinguishing to 1 hour. Thus, we will not delay the preparation of the dish, but, on the contrary, speed it up. Did you understand it? I'll try tomorrow.

wrote clearly, but most likely it will not work, and one of the reasons - that I played and did something like that. not intentionally, but pointless.

zvezda on soup, for example, does not change.
Thank you for your congratulations
why do you have green yoghurt?

why do you have green yoghurt?

Are your monitor color settings in order? I have a normal yogurt color, not green.

on soup, for example, does not change.

Changes. In steps of 10 minutes up to 4 hours.

wrote clearly, but most likely it will not work

Yes, it didn't work. Even with a minimal delay, the set time is turned on - 2 hours.

the soup turned out well yesterday.
the stew with karotoshka could not wait. after 1.5 hours of cooking, the meat was still far from soft.Nerves gave up, dumped everything into an electric pressure cooker, and after 30 minutes it was divinely tender. A pressure cooker is a thing!

put yogurt in the morning
1 liter of UHT milk (not boiled) + 100g bottle of Actimel from Danone. stirred and set for 6 or 8 hours. (I don’t remember. By default, how much it was, I didn’t change it.) The taste was good. we liked. the consistency may be slightly watery. but jelly-like, everything is as it should be.

Thank you all again for your help.
The device will justify the price, but most likely in a year I will buy something that suits me completely. (if it goes on sale)

There is still a thought, if there are those who want to develop on the site, write, maybe something will come out:
1. Our device has everything you need (heating elements and sensors), only normal program changes are missing.
Here is output 3:
1. to sit and wait for the manufacturers to slowly unwind us with new and new equipment, adding one or two new functions.
2. to do, by joint efforts, to find who can, to pay, and so on.
Some USB to computer adapter. what programs to ask from it. time, temperature, pressure, delay, etc.
3. to develop requirements for programs, including the creation of their simplest programs. and order 100 boards on some small winder. whether 10 or 100 the price will be the same. then, instead of our own board, we insert the one that we made to order - and we enjoy a super new fancy device. From myself I can write the requirements for the program.
Trust me. this is not a super-duper complex device and all the parts are in micronic or other radio parts store. It is unlikely that among us there is a radio technician who can do this. (although you can find it on specialized forums) But whatever is steamed, you can order at the factory. which is easier I do not know. with a small batch, it will cost us at the start well in 2 thousand for a fee. then 500-700r each (depending on the configuration) here you can make a business.
Since, in general, all the current multicooker is ugly (unfinished by programs, and most importantly by the possibilities of creating your own programs. And this is in our computer age, when a 5-year-old computer is placed in a mobile phone)

[zvezda]

And I have never had such a beautiful yoghurt like zvezda did not work out. More and more like curdled milk. What am I doing wrong?

From myself I can write the requirements for the program.

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Did you mean the requirements for a computer program that will manage all this? Or requirements for a cooking program?

From myself I can write the requirements for the program.

Did you mean the requirements for a computer program that will manage all this? Or requirements for a cooking program?

I meant that I can make a program template, which connoisseurs of the art of cooking will add numbers:
example
Mode 1.
- Heating 100% power to temp. 100 degrees.
- maintaining a temperature of 98 degrees for 70% of the execution time of the program.
- maintaining a temperature of 80 degrees for 20% of the program execution time.
- heating up to 100 degrees the remaining time until the end of the program.
- transition to heating mode 40 degrees.
- switching off the device if not canceled by the operators (keeping warm function) after 10 hours

Mode 2.
- Heating 50% power up to temp. 70 degrees.
.............

[zvezda]

And I have never had such a beautiful yoghurt like zvezda did not work out. More and more like curdled milk. What am I doing wrong?

And that's exactly what I get. I have done it many times already. Store milk 3.2-3.5 fat content plus 1 glass of live yogurt. I took milk and yogurt from different manufacturers, and the result is always the same. Rather, visually the same, but the taste is different. Due to the different leaven, the taste is different.

Let me be showered with slippers, but alas, I will be Lakuchin's first hayat ...
Today I bought an Italian and was disappointed.
1. After Panas, the smell of plastic is terrible, she drove her empty on a double boiler, and her head ached. I have a baby, I won't dare to cook in it.
2. No certificate !!!
3.Doubtful guarantee for 6 months (though Gorbushka graciously gave me theirs.)
3. Steam from the hole poured so that all the windows fogged up in 5 minutes, this has never happened with Panas. You can't put it under the shelves, it can't take plastic on the windows on the window either.
I took it as an addition to Panas 10, tomorrow I will go to take it, I will not even cook, since I took it on Gorbushka. The usefulness of cooking food in such a unit is very doubtful for me. It's a pity for the time spent and double winding with the baby on Gorbushka.

It's true! They brought me yesterday (finally, after waiting since Thursday!); I ran it twice in steam mode - there was a stench, my son came rushing in - mom, what's on fire? The guarantee is linden! There is no certificate. Plastic steaming grate - I won't dare to cook on it! Steam was pouring - what's in the bath! But I cooked potatoes in cream, today buckwheat porridge - it turned out a little dry, I had to bring it to mind. The next step is baking. Until I feel great joy, well, perhaps the price? Eh, you would not be chasing, priest, for cheapness!

Since, in general, all the current multicooker is ugly (unfinished by programs, and most importantly by the possibilities of creating their own programs.

Initially, all these multi rice cookers were invented for the Chinese and Japanese (Koreans there too), and they are satisfied with all the programs, since ALL programs are invented for the Japanese-Chinese cuisine. It is unlikely that they consider their native rice cookers ugly. You don't like their rice cookers - create and release your own where the thread is in Ivanovo They have been using theirs for many decades, but today their rice cooker fell into your hands and you are * ugly *

[Gypsy]

Gypsy ,
which means "hit" - people buy in Russia, as if according to Russian trade laws, so sellers could go broke for a technical editor! It's good that the people on the forums do not press, but generously, with all their hearts, share their experience - how to treat this beast! I now have before my eyes this work of Chinese folk art - instruction - fly away! And the name of the cartoon is also an Italian cook - they would write, a Chinese cook!

I ran it twice in steam mode - there was a stench, my son came rushing in - mom, what's on fire? The guarantee is linden! There is no certificate. Plastic steaming grate - I won't dare to cook on it! Steam was pouring - what's in the bath! But I cooked potatoes in cream, today buckwheat porridge - it turned out a little dry, I had to bring it to mind. The next step is baking. Until I feel great joy, well, perhaps the price? Eh, you would not be chasing, priest, for cheapness!

Well, I don't know ... I've been using it for a month now and I'm not overjoyed. I forgot about Panasonic. I have already checked almost everything in Italiananka and am delighted with them. Everything turns out fine, the only thing: I made a cottage cheese casserole and the minimum 50 minutes turned out to be too much, the bottom was slightly baked, but this is not critical. Yes, and at first there was no smell, it just smelled like a new household appliance, like any other technique.

We tried buckwheat porridge - it turned out well, grain to grain. But I cooked it by the test method - first I warmed up the cereal in the crust mode - 15 minutes, then I added boiling water with salt and put on the steamer mode - meat - 15 minutes, then - the food warmer (according to the instructions - heating, it seems?) - 30 minutes ... Yes, there is room for creativity!

We tried buckwheat porridge - it turned out well, grain to grain. But I cooked it by the test method - first I warmed up the cereal in the crust mode - 15 minutes, then I added boiling water with salt and put on the steamer mode - meat - 15 minutes, then - the food warmer (according to the instructions - heating, it seems?) - 30 minutes ... Yes, there is room for creativity!

Why not cook on * rice *? I always cook buckwheat just like rice, and everything is fine. No unnecessary manipulations, fell asleep, flooded, turned on and left.

Why don't you cook on * rice *? I always cook buckwheat just like rice, and everything is fine. No unnecessary manipulations, fell asleep, flooded, turned on and left.

And there is no "rice" option in this heap! Today I am only the second day with this cartoon.

And there is no "rice" option in this heap! Today I am only the second day with this cartoon.

and what modes are there? Actually, a multicooker is an advanced rice cooker. And rice should be cooked by default, as well as buckwheat.

THERE IS NO SUCH !!!!! But there is just cooking .... and pasta! Rice and buckwheat on them ..... super !!!!

As I understand it, the program is simply called differently (as Panas renamed rice to buckwheat)

Exactly! And then just "Cooking" and this program boils all the cereals, the main thing is to observe the proportions of cereals / water, they (proportions) are different for different cereals. Potatoes on this program are also great, I was just amazed at the result.

Exactly! And then just "Cooking"

Here again the costs of translation. In the original, this program is called COOK, or simply - cooking. The right time in it is selected by the machine itself.

[MariV]

MariV, go to "There Mother posted a gorgeous instruction for this cartoon. This is the first cartoon in my life. And with this instruction, everything worked out right away. There were no failures even once. Although I had no idea where to start the cooking process at all.
Only I don't understand why you smell. I didn’t know that I needed to drive it out in empty mode first. I just washed the bowl and steamer, doused it with boiling water and immediately baked "Chocolate on boiling water". Then, for some time I was in a stupor: how, with such minimal manipulations, without a mixer, etc., such a wonderful cake turned out. My cartoon has been working with me for the second month now, and I'm already thinking of buying the same one for my dacha.

Received!
The instruction is super! Thanks again! About the "crust" function. I, too, do not yet know exactly what it is for, but yesterday I risked using it when cooking buckwheat porridge. I have been cooking buckwheat for many, many years using my own technology - first I sort it out, and then I ignite the grains. I used to do it in a frying pan, but yesterday I decided to roast the grains on the "crust" mode - 10 minutes, then I dropped the program, poured boiling water with salt and set it on the "steam" mode - 15 minutes. Then on "bain-marie" - another 30 minutes - even nothing!

Potatoes on this program are also great, I was just amazed at the result.

potatoes on the program for cereals ??? Wow! and detail?
I usually stew or fry, so I have not tried cooking yet.

As for too long extinguishing ... And if you drive the extinguishing time to the maximum, then the saucepan does not drop to the minimum? In Panasonic, I was not satisfied with the fact that the "steam" program is set by default for 10 minutes, and to set less, it was necessary to increase the time to the maximum, then the next step the saucepan set for one minute.

potatoes on the program for cereals ??? Wow! and detail?
I usually stew or fry, so I have not tried cooking yet.

Yeah. It is at the "Varka". Just cut it (I cut it in halves, and the larger one, in quarters), fill it with water, salt it (I still put a bay leaf), and turn it on. At the end of the program, drain the water and add the butter and stir. The potatoes are super! Not boiled or cooked. Just perfect! I myself was in shock. The first time in a cartoon I cooked this result.

About too long extinguishing ... And if you drive the extinguishing time to the maximum, then the saucepan does not drop to the minimum?

No. The increase is up to 12 hours, then it returns to the same 2 hours. But it does not bother me absolutely! She extinguishes at such a low temperature that less than 2 hours would not even be enough for me.

Take to your ranks! The day before yesterday, they finally brought the desired color.
Cooking: steamed dumplings and vegetables, fish soup and pilaf. There were no extraneous odors finally. Steam in moderation, nothing more than a saucepan on the stove. Plov cooked first in frying (however, to speed up the time and save the meat in a pan in parallel, and then added it to the onion with carrots.When the zirvak was ready, I put rice and ten hours on a crust. Minus one - loss of time due to lack of experience and developed recipes.

Cooking: steamed dumplings and vegetables, fish soup and pilaf.There were no extraneous odors finally. Steam in moderation, nothing more than a saucepan on the stove. Plov cooked first in frying (however, to speed up the time and save the meat in a pan in parallel, and then added it to the onion with carrots.When the zirvak was ready, she put the rice on a crust for about ten hours.

Here! What I said! "Crust" is suitable for pilaf! And if you started doing everything at once on the "Crust", then just 1 hour 30 minutes (this is the minimum on this program) would be it. Super!

Oh, I forgot - zirvak cooked for 30 minutes on stewing and then added rice

girls, I came to cry - I burned my cookie.

I cooked pasta, after the end of the program I added time with a double boiler program and ....
the idiot (smiley face banging her head against the wall) pulled out the pan and did not turn off the program.
It smelled like burning and she didn't even light the screen anymore.

In short, tomorrow I'll go for another. Well at least they are not expensive.
But it's still a shame that she herself is to blame, fools (((((