Sukhirunchik
Admin, Tatyana, share your impressions about your new steam gear, I also thought about buying, I can not make a choice.
ikom
And I recently bought Karcher SC4. It took a long time to choose between SC2 and SC4, the advantages did not seem obvious, then they closed their eyes and bought it at a higher price. Satisfied sooooo, did not even expect to like it so much. I can't say that I laundered everything, there was no time to get to grips with it yet, but the seams of the tiles in the bathroom, which I walked over, became much more decent, in the kitchen and in the hallway too. In the toilet, semi-polished porcelain stoneware, very tediously and for a long time washed out by chemistry, has transformed beyond recognition without much effort. And the function of adding water during the operation of the device turned out to be in great demand, we add more than once. My husband also bought a nozzle for washing windows, I'm waiting for tests, I'm not ready to wash on the balcony, the rest are clean)))
Yulia Antipova
ikom, and what is the difference between them besides adding water?
ikom
The SC4 is more powerful, the steam pressure is slightly higher and the floor nozzle design is different. And topping up with water during operation, you do not need to wait for the device to cool down. If I went to buy one, I took SC2, and my husband decided SC4, then said that he was not sure himself. As a result, everyone is happy, even my son is sometimes interested in "playing", but I get help)) We add water many times during one operation of the steam generator.
Yulia Antipova
ikom,
kVipoint
ikom, I am very glad that you have such an assistant. But I wanted about topping up. In 1020 karcher I collect 1 liter of water and, to be honest, while I use this liter, I get terribly tired, while I manage to wash everything and etch the steam, just washing the floors or refreshing the carpet. One more thing I want to note is that all the water evaporates. then the valve opens immediately, that is, there is no need to wait (maybe just someone will need my observations). But if there is still water, then yes, the EN valve will open, but I always try to work out the steam to the last)))
ikom
I myself have not tried it myself, maybe I would be tired)) While the boys are having fun, they top up several times) The body designs are different for SC2, water is poured directly into the body under the valve, for SC4 a translucent water tank is built into the body, from which water automatically pumped inside.
Nastasya
I was sure that I did not need a steam cleaner, since there is a steam vacuum cleaner (frankly, I use it as a simple vacuum cleaner). But I saw the steam cleaner at work and I really liked it. The ferry (at a distance) I go through the shelves with every little thing (where you get tired of picking up and wiping everything), through the rubble of toys (open) and even on the shelves with books (not very valuable yet, because it is still not clear how the books will behave with time). And we also have an open wardrobe with clothes. Such a powerful dust collector. In general, I also walk on the surface with steam. Becomes significantly fresher in the room.
Chose SC4. I wanted it with the possibility of topping up (and the model, in my opinion, looks prettier). And at the time of the search, the prices for SC2.500 and SC4 were almost the same. Only SC4 is still more powerful. She took it. I thought I might strain and take SC5 after all (I liked the possibility of fine adjustment of the steam supply). But then I asked myself how relevant. I decided not so much to overpay 10 tons. And model 5 is more bulky.
The availability of the iron was of little interest. Because I have an ironing system with which I am quite happy.
I cleaned the joints of the plates, which were not taken by any chemistry, of course not perfect, but much better than it was. Washed the windows. In general, I am 100% satisfied with the purchase.
Nastasya
Girls, who uses a steam cleaner with an Amway metal sponge? Is this sponge easy to put on the nozzle?
Mere
Girls, I read the topic, though after 100+ pages it's already very fluent. It caught fire, of course, and I already have no strength to endure it, but .. I still have a few questions .. will you help?

I will be especially grateful for the answers from those who already have a small Kärcher SC 1 Floor Kit (I am moving between him and Kärcher SC 2) I really like the baby for its compactness and the fact that the mop can be removed and walked with one jug, but ..:

1) How hard is it to carry this jug (and the mop itself)? When all the weight is on the floor, and only a hose is in the hands, it is clear that there is no problem with this, but here the unit itself is in the hand and you need to pour water into it.

2) In the description, I found that the performance in an area of ​​20 m (versus 75 m for the SC 2 model), that is, if you use it as a steam swab, then only one room has enough floors to wash? .. and then what? wait until it cools down, or can you also evaporate all the water and add immediately, as mentioned above? And if you wait - how long?

3) The baby with a mop has a "premium" model in white and more expensive. I did not find any differences in the har-s or the configuration, the consultant could not say anything either, but only repeated my words "but only the color is different." Funny) But I don't believe it, is it really true? Mozht who was interested?

4) I read that the steam button must be kept constantly and even men get tired of this hand, what do you say?

5) Who had the experience of return / exchange communication, especially to the company store in Russia and especially not because of marriage? I was somewhat discouraged at first by the consultant's answer that it was impossible to return / exchange it even in the first week after purchase, if "you turned it on", and then by the fact that I found confirmation on their website:

"The Buyer has the right to refuse the Goods at any time before its transfer, and after transfer - within 7 days.
The main thing! Return of goods of proper quality is possible only if the goods have not been used.
Unfortunately, traces of product use remain both on the external surfaces and inside the device.
Used goods of good quality will not be accepted for return.
Each device of proper quality, declared for return, is delivered to the Karcher Service Center for diagnostics. If traces of operation are found, LLC "Karcher" notifies the client in writing about the impossibility of accepting the device for return. "


I'm already in the mood for buying Karcher and I'm more inclined to SC1, but I doubt whether it will be convenient and easy for me to use this thing and if it's really hard, then I would exchange it for one that looks like a "vacuum cleaner". And hey, do Karcher have some special laws in Russia, or have our law on consumer protection already been canceled? .. Now I don't want to buy from them at all. And I'm afraid that there will be a byaka with the service, if suddenly something. You can, of course, buy and carry it around the apartment, but somehow after all these answers you don't want to get involved with their store at all.
Alenka212
Nastasya, I washed the oven with this sponge. She used a steam cleaner to soak the fat with one hand and rub it with a brush with the other.
Yulia Antipova
Mere, Olya, I had KITFORT for a couple of days (returned), now he is traveling from OZONE Karcher SC 2 1.512-000.0 from here: 🔗

Write your opinion?
Mere
Yulia Antipova, Yulechka, of course! Be sure to write!
Nastasya
Mere, I don't have a Kärcher SC 1 Floor Kit, but I have a jug. I used it a little, because I didn't like it in my hand to hold it all the time. It's hard for me (weight of the device + water). But I use SC4 (almost like SC2) with much more pleasure. He rides after me and that's it. no need to drag on yourself.
Pressing the button is not at all difficult, on the contrary. I was washing the floor in the kitchen, constantly holding it down. And I even thought that it might be harmful for the device to work so much without interruption (you need to look at the instructions by the way).
It's very strange about the exchange. When I bought and chose between SC2 and SC4 (which was not available), the consultant told me that I can take SC2, and if I suddenly decide that I still don't have enough of it and want 4, then within 2 weeks I can return it and buy 4. True, I decided not to carry out the experiment with the return, but to wait for the desired model.
Mere
Nastasya, thanks more for the answer!

Now I looked how much the jug weighs at Kärcher - 1.58 kg .. without accessories and without taking into account 0.2 kg of water .. That is, one hand, and even if in two ... you have to hold almost 2 kg and more and "work" for them at the same time ..

For clarity, I took a 1.5 liter bottle of water in one hand. and um .. hard, very hard .. Damn (My upset ...
And he looks like such a fluff and all these aunts in advertising brochures smile so sweetly, after 5 minutes, wielding such a device, I will stop smiling))

Hmm, I strongly doubted about it .. I didn't want to take it with a "vacuum cleaner", I won over the compactness of SC1 .. but it looks like SC2 is more convenient, reviews on Amazon, by the way, are better for these models. Hmm ... Now we need to think about where to hide it ...

Girls, if it's not difficult for anyone, can you write the size of SC2? On the site 380 x 254 x 260 mm, but it is not clear the size of the unit or its packaging.
Yulia Antipova
1. For me personally, a jug is unacceptable. Maybe there are strong young ladies who can calmly move a two-liter canister of conservation back and forth with one hand, but I'm definitely not one of them. One arm is injured in the wrist, and the other is not so strong.

2. Using Kitik, I found out for myself that in many cases, after passing the ferry, you have to walk with a dry cloth and collect some water and mud. Since my mother gave birth to me with two hands, I don’t have a third hand for a cloth and is not expected. Conclusion - you need to either put the jug on the floor - on the shelf - on the sink (a hose in one hand, a rag in the other), or change the hose to a rag ... It's confusing, honestly!

3. Regarding the differences between the Premium model. There is a strong suspicion that other quality parts are inside the Premium models. I asked a question to the support office, but I have not received an answer yet. And this suspicion is due to the fact that Kercher mini-washers differ from each other inside precisely parts material: plain or durable platy, plain metal or brass, etc. And this greatly affects the cost of sinks. However, this is known only in repair shops (and they are in no hurry to share information).

4. It is not difficult to hold the button at all, especially since the constant supply of steam turns my small toilet (1.5 sq. M.) And a bath (3 sq. M.) Into a bathhouse) It is clear that not everyone has such "mansions", but however, this is my experience.

5. I don't really know anything about the guarantee and return. It is better to contact Aunt Bese - she is our lawyer. I took KIT in OZONE, they returned the money without problems (a defective incomplete arrived).

6. I chose this model precisely because of the COMFORT nozzle. I have many places where she is needed. Plus, I personally don't need a permanent topping up (but for Tanya-Admin it was very important and she was happy) I filled in 1.5 liters in KITFORT - it was enough with my head. My cleaning takes 15-30 minutes, so there is no need to overpay for constant topping up, I need the nozzle more.

7. I dreamed of a white Karcher, but OZON had money and points. Therefore, I took it at OZONE, and not at the office.

8. If you take it on the off-site and in körchercenters, then this month SC2 - the product of the month - there is a good discount.

9. If you take in the Körcher centers, then on your birthday you get an 18% discount according to your passport. I have a birthday in 2 weeks, I wanted to take it at the Kercher Center. But in our city there are no necessary models (only for 21,000, and this is for me oh-oh-oh), and again, so, points with money were on OZON.

If you need links for the right to a discount, I will send it (I thoroughly prepared - I wanted to get the most out of it).

In general, as a result, advise - no worse, they can beat it later ... But, Olga, I would recommend SC 2 ... Now you can take it cheaper and the pens will not get tired ...

And if I had enough money, I would take the fifth model with an iron and all the bells and whistles ... Eh, dreams, dreams ...

Quote: Mere
Girls, if it's not difficult for anyone, can you write the size of SC2? On the site 380 x 254 x 260 mm, but it is not clear the size of the unit or its packaging.

Will arrive on Friday - unsubscribe ...
Nastasya
In my opinion, the 18% discount does not apply to steam cleaners. They have a list of the product that this discount goes for. I also wanted to use it.
Yulia Antipova
Nastasya, it is necessary to clarify - in September it definitely spread! This model was indicated there! I was still thinking whether to hurry or not, and then I had to pay money for paperwork at home and ... my money cried ...

They also regularly change conditions. We must watch)
Mere
Yulia Antipova, Julia, thank you again! Very detailed and helpful!
I also look at white models, they are cute) and if the materials are also better there, but then even more attractive. Well, a model, just having a different color, cannot have a "premium" color in the name and so differ in price. They could still get it out of here, but it's a German mark.

Discounts are good, tempting .. and also DR soon .. but take it as an officer. the store is now scary. At first I was very pleased with the "5-year guarantee" on their website, but now I think, prove to them, try that the case is "guaranteed", if suddenly something happens to him, everyone has a marriage. But it seems that on the same ozone or somewhere else, although there is a year of warranty, they will not scoff. And these comrades will prove there with their "expertise" in a couple of months that the case is not guaranteed, because the item was not properly operated or something else ... you can, of course, then sue, prove, waste your nerves, but it is not worth it. I'll wait a little longer, maybe someone will respond with such experience and, if everything is not so scary, then I will probably buy it in the center, but if not .. Experience suggests that the service depends on the company and often giants and their daughters sin with a devil-may-care attitude , but here at the very beginning it is already alarming.

So it was with Aeroflot, a terrible story with damage to luggage, I still shudder ... the company really did damage to me, delayed the answer for three months and as a result, after painful battles, after 5 months (!) Compensated only a quarter of the real cost I still don’t know whether to spit on it, or to follow the principle. And in contrast to the Aeroflot service, the onetotrip service, where there was a controversial situation and even rather not in my favor, but the issue was settled on the same (!) Day with a full refund and an apology. Two very striking examples of when you should not trust the name and age of the company, although it would seem that everything should have been the other way around.
Kärcher's German quality is well known and their service is probably excellent, but what kind of quality we have is a big question ..

Yulia Antipova
Quote: Mere
Discounts are good, tempting .. and also DR soon ..

Mere, Olga, only you dolby them in advance about discounts if you decide to take them in the center. In our Rostov region, for example, they like to ride "at the expense of the buyer. There is no Kercher center in my town, but there is in the neighboring one (30 km). I call them in advance (via the site request) and say:
- Are you the official representative of Körcher?
- Yes.
- Do you have Körcher shares?
- Yes.
- Will I get an 18% discount on this model (I call it SC 1)?
- Yes.
- What days before and after the birthday is valid? (I ask, although I know the timing).
- I will connect you with the department, they will tell you more precisely.

Connect. I say:
- What day can I drive up to buy at a stock?
And the boy who sells and has a percentage of the sale begins to hang me on the ears that they do not have such a stock.
Fun?
But the truth was on my side! And although I did not take advantage of this discount, I got experience)))
Mere
Yulia Antipova, Julia, well done! I smile at such pressure)
But we cannot do otherwise, or the truth will "go by". By the way) And on what days before and after the birthday is this discount valid?) I'm not sure yet about myself and the office. center, but it may be useful to someone else.
Yulia Antipova
A-a-a-a-a-a !!! Now there is no steam in the list !!! It's good that I didn't wait))) Here are the conditions:

Dear friends!

New convenient conditions for your favorite promotion!
If you have a birthday, please yourself - present high-quality German equipment that will make your life easier.
For those who are always 18 at heart, Karcher gives an 18% discount for 7 days, including your birthday.
The "Birthday Discount" promotion is valid from January 1 to December 31, 2015 in all Karcher Centers.

To receive a discount, come to the Karcher Center with a passport and choose any of the devices that are covered by the promotion:
AVD 4-7 series,
vacuum cleaners VC,
vacuum cleaners with DS aquafilter,
household vacuum cleaners WD and MV,
washing vacuum cleaners SE,
pumps.

The promotion does not apply to accessories, spare parts and chemicals.
This promotion is not valid in the online store.

Only at Karcher Centers!

Notes:

The discount is valid for the period: 3 days before the birthday - on the birthday - 3 days after the birthday (total - 7 days)
The discount is provided only to the birthday person upon presentation of the required document
The discount applies only to 1 device
The discount is provided only once per period
The discount does not apply to parts, accessories, components, chemicals, a set for watering from a barrel (1.645-466.0), as well as to any household appliances that are not included in the SDP, SCP, BP, WD, MV, SE, VC, DS and K 4-7 series.
Discounts on several promotions running at the same time are not cumulative
Discount on the action "Again 18" does not apply to models participating in the action "PRODUCT OF THE MONTH"
To receive a discount, you need a document indicating the date of birth and name (passport, driving license, pension certificate, social card, etc.)
The discount is provided only for those devices that are available on the day of application
To receive a discount, be sure to fill out a customer form and indicate an email address
The discount is provided to customers who have reached the age of 18
Toll-free hotline 8-800-1000-654

Here's a link: 🔗



Here's what's strange: the action has been going on for a whole year !!! In September, the steam was included in the list of discounts - absolutely for sure! It was important for me !!! Yes, and the girl who answered the phone said that he was covered ... Serious company ... It seems that they cannot quietly change the conditions ... Damn, I'm hanging on ...

Well, okay, it's definitely included in the product of the month !!! Here is the confirmation !!! 🔗
Nastasya
In August, he certainly did not enter the stores of St. Petersburg. I was just eyeing the steam cleaner and examined all the stocks.
Volume
Girls! Is the Körcher S-2 the same as the 1020?
Heather
Volumes, yes, the models are the same, judging by the description of the 1.020 configuration on the Internet and the attachments that I have on my SC 2.
L.O.V.
Hello.
I look closely here at the steam technology) I read the forum, I decided to watch the steam vacuum cleaners. Who has such, please tell us! I don't know which model to choose ...
Yulia Antipova
Quote: Mere
Girls, if it's not difficult for anyone, can you write the size of SC2? On the site 380 x 254 x 260 mm, but it is not clear the size of the unit or its packaging.
Mere, Olya, my handsome man arrived) Sorry for being late with the answer (now I work a lot, go to bed after three, so I just forgot)
These are the dimensions of the unit, the box is much larger)
Mere
Yulia Antipova, Julia, thank you very much!
So he turns out to be such a baby) It should be convenient and light.

And we could not stand it and took a Karkherovsky steam vacuum cleaner for carpet, although we haven’t tested it yet, we are also busy with something, but this weekend we are planning a general cleaning, during which I want to understand what kind of steam vacuum cleaner to take as an assistant for daily cleaning - sick or just the same. And then maybe this pampering and excess, if you already have a steam cleaner. We need to check in general, so I'm looking forward to the weekend)
Nastasya
Mere, I have a steam cleaner. I bought a steam cleaner for him. Because the steam cleaner is quite bulky. And to assemble, disassemble, clean ... it takes time. Not a lot, but lazy.
Mere
Nastasya, so I also think that he will still need an assistant. Well .. or is desirable. I thought for a long time, chose what to take - a jug, a steam cleaner in the form of a vacuum cleaner or a steam vacuum cleaner globally, and it was ironically determined that a steam vacuum cleaner was definitely needed - we have all living rooms in carpet - dust accumulates in them horror and it should be good for them to "generalize". But at the expense of the baby, I will make a decision later - needed / not needed and which one.

I really like the little jug from Karcher, no matter how I tried to persuade myself that it was pampering, but I still want it - a lot of attachments for different functions and compact (you can not only quickly get / remove it, but also take it on the road). Although we somehow lived without him ..
Yulia Antipova
Quote: Mere
And we could not stand it and took a Karkherovsky steam cleaner for carpet,
oh, how lovely !!! Congratulations!!! Which one? oh, I want details! And more, more !!! can we have a topic about steam vacuum cleaners? then let's go there !!!
Mere
Julia, thanks!)
Honestly, I did not find a separate topic, if there is one, I will gladly tell everything there (after we try it out). I looked briefly again - there seems to be a separate topic about vacuum cleaners and separately about steam cleaners, but not about steam vacuum cleaners. Yes, probably no one else releases them, except Karcher?
We took the Karcher SV 1802 model. It looks cosmic) A lot of nozzles. It is very easy to disassemble for cleaning, I thought it was a whole business to clean it, not at all, everything is simple and clear. Of the minuses, only one has been found so far (but we have already written about it) - it's too heavy. It is possible to endure this once a week 100%, and it’s not so straightforward, I don’t even try to lift our washing machine, I’ll gladly sell it now) but I can quite do this myself and will wear it everywhere.
volkovilia
Hello everyone! I have a MIE bello steam cleaner (three in one: a steam cleaner, a steamer and a steam generator) I bought this device for my wife and did not regret it. Before selling the car, I cleaned the entire interior with this thing. A huge plus is the length of the hose (three meters) and a bunch of attachments for any surfaces. The dirt under the rugs, which you can't get out in any way without dry cleaning, leaves without problems, stains on the seats, even walked across the ceiling a couple of times - perfect. Saved five thousand on dry cleaning, and the car is like new. And the process is very pleasant)) At home, my wife even washes the floor with it. Expensive, of course, but it's worth its money, definitely.)
Katyunya Kam
Hello everyone! The girls urgently need help ... Accumulated bonuses need to be spent urgently otherwise they will burn out I was staring at the steam generators steam cleaners but I don't know what to take, I wanted to take the karcher sc1 premium floor kit, but after reading the reviews I realized that with my weight of 37 kg it will not be that hard for me, but very much it is very hard for them to work, but at the same time, software as a vacuum cleaner does not really want to because of the place it occupies, so I sit and think that all the same, if you take an outdoor one, then sc4 is better for me, but I just can't understand how it differs in business except technical characteristics for example from sc3 and sc2? Advise what to take, so as not to constantly hold the button for supplying steam, because the hand will dry out. p.s I consider only Karcher
Marusya
Katyunya Kam, if you choose between sc2 or sc3, then of course take sc3. It is more powerful, heats up faster and there is water topping up during operation. Having 2 Karcher steam cleaner in use, I can say that refilling during operation is much more convenient. Steam is delivered very easily, the device is on casters. You do not need to transfer it. The hand does not get tired.
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Katyunya Kam, if you choose between sc2 or sc3, then of course take sc3. It is more powerful, heats up faster and there is water topping up during operation. Having 2 Karcher steam cleaner in use, I can say that refilling during operation is much more convenient. Steam is delivered very easily, the device is on casters. You do not need to transfer it. The hand does not get tired.

I just climbed on the site Karcher, they write that in sc2 there is also adding water, the problem is that I have bonuses in Eldorado and in Eldorado there are no sc 3
Marusya
Will the price of the torus be lower in terms of bonuses? How much lower in Eldorado than in the Karcher brand store? Maybe it's better to buy what you like best? And another question: why exactly Karcher?
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Will the price of the torus be lower in terms of bonuses? How much lower in Eldorado than in the Karcher brand store? Maybe it's better to buy what you like best? And another question: why exactly Karcher?
If without bonuses, then the price in Eldo 10299 in Karcher 103999 for the sc2 model with bonuses in Eldo I will take it for 6500, I like the Karcher in the house very much, and I trust more well-known brands like that
Katyunya Kam
Damn 9 is one extra)))
Marusya
Katyunya Kam, I agree that the price is much less. Take sc 2 if everything suits you. Then buy the necessary attachments
Katyunya Kam
I would of course take sc4 better, but again in Eldorado there is sc4 along with an iron, which is 5000 more expensive and I have a good iron plus a mie deluxe steamer, so overpaying 5000 for an iron does not make sense at all damn a double-edged sword with these bonuses
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Katyunya Kam, I agree that the price is much less. Take sc 2 if everything suits you. Then buy the necessary attachments

Right now, I will have a hysteria that I really like in Eldorado, and the bonuses damn only in Eldorado also burn out soon (((
Marusya
Katyunya Kam, only you can choose. Flour of choice .... Always so .... Good luck with your choice and a good purchase!
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Katyunya Kam, only you can choose. Flour of choice .... Always so .... Good luck with your choice and a good purchase!
Thank you very much, the fact of the matter is that with these bonuses there is no choice: lol: I'll have to take sc2 because I don't want to overpay for the iron. Tell me, how do you like sc2? It turns out that on the site they write that there is water addition, but in fact there is not? I am going to purchase it primarily for cleaning tile joints
Marusya
Katyunya Kam, my steam cleaners are 6 years old. One small, without topping up, the second large with an iron and a bunch of attachments. Both are active at work. Topping up is more convenient. The little one goes for a drive to the country house and back, the big one constantly lives in a city apartment.
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Katyunya Kam, my steam cleaners are 6 years old. One small, without topping up, the second large with an iron and a bunch of attachments. Both are active at work. Topping up is more convenient. The little one goes for a drive to the country house and back, the big one constantly lives in a city apartment.

That's why every now and then with topping it is clear that it is more convenient, but how to understand on the site they write that there is a topping in sc2 and real users write there is no topping (((although there is sc2 and there is sc2 premium, I am considering premium, probably there is a topping ...
Marusya
Katyunya Kam, in sc2 there is no refill. Watch the video on YouTube. They tell everything about him there.
Katyunya Kam
Quote: Marusya

Katyunya Kam, in sc2 there is no refill. Watch the video on YouTube. They tell everything about him there.

Thank you very much) I read it carefully right now and the premium does not contain replenishing there is written a bay of water through a funnel and I was a fool thinking that this was about the bay, I mean now of course I tend to sc4, so I'm thinking of overpaying for an iron and having refilled or so ... thank you very much for the tips)
Marusya
Katyunya Kamwhat do you want them to clean? It is enough for me to wash the floor in 3 rooms without adding water. If you have a good iron, why take another one? You will not use it.
Katyunya Kam
I have a small apartment of 32 meters, first of all I want to scrub the tile seams and joints near the hob, well, maybe I'll wash the floors more))) but I definitely won't use it about the iron))) I'm just still interested in the difference in terms of pressure and steam 3.2 bar and for example 4 bar how strong is it? The mie steamer that I have it has 3.2 bar and I want to say that the steam is strong for 8 minutes of steaming and there is almost a sauna in the room

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