Natay
Quote: makabusha

or a door from an old oven?))))))))))))))
Well, or option 3: do not suffer and buy Klatronic)))

I have a big Klatronic that couldn't cope with the oven door. She's not old, by the way. Especially after cooking, I did not wash a couple of times to check. The seams on the tiles that are near the stove, that is, there is fat, do not respond well, a little further is better. In short, after about 8 months of use, the conclusions:
- fat cleans poorly (you still have to use chemistry)
- limescale too
- places for draining water: sinks, washbasin, bathtubs, etc. are excellent, without it you can hardly wash everything
- ironing also did not grow together
- I removed dust from the wallpaper, well, not bad
- windows, well, I don’t know the difference, I didn’t notice what happened to him, what without him, but the balcony, or rather the blinds on the balcony - they wash super without taking off, but before it was a tragedy for me to wash them
- the toilet bowl, too, will not say anything since it is always clean
- well, the rugs are not badly refreshed, although before that I use their vacuum cleaner, then some means, steam and again a vacuum cleaner ...
Now I want the same, but with a vacuum cleaner function or a vacuum cleaner with a steam cleaner function
sweetka
makabusha, and there is no way to take a thread from someone? I often do not spend the night with all sorts of such devices at home - a test drive with my friends takes place.
makabusha
Nope. I alone am inclined to deviceaholism from my acquaintances. ((
Recently there was my DR and asked me to give a small steam cleaner openly, but it was said that what for I need all sorts of stupid things, just thrown away money.
Although I know for sure that I need a steam cleaner, I only need to know which one I need, small or large, and what functions will be useful to me. For example, I would take a large one just for the sake of soaring the floor, and not even in the kitchen, but linoleum in the nursery, and so as not to hold a small steam cleaner in my hands, not to overwork. Well, and suddenly it turns out that it is not so necessary to wipe the floor with a steam cleaner. and the weight of the little one does not burden the hand?
sweetka
from the floor and a small steam cleaner - finally things are difficult to match. I mean, if you're going to use it as a kind of vacuum cleaner. yes, of course, the floor can be steamed. but this is as a thread of a long-running general cleaning. since the hose is not long there, the plane of the nozzle is small (somewhere with the palm) and one hand is busy all the time. but you cannot tilt it. in general, this is really inconvenient. and imagine how long it will take you to roll on the floor with such a small nozzle. and then it is still necessary to wipe it off.
so if the little one was going to adapt for frequent cleaning of the floor - I do not recommend it. this is my opinion.
metel_007
Natay , please, about the blinds in more detail. What attachment and what technology? Then wipe the blinds and glass?
koziv
I have a big Klatronic that couldn't cope with the oven door.
And my big Klatronic did the best with the oven door. I couldn’t wash such dark streaks, they didn’t take funds, but Klatrosh coped with the scraper !!! I really enjoyed washing the mosquito nets. I washed the seams well.
Natay
Quote: metel_007

Natay , please, about the blinds in more detail. What attachment and what technology? Then wipe the blinds and glass?

My blinds with a brush - I walked through one like that, took a rag and rubbed the dirt with the second, let it dry, and raise my window. In one place where the window is constantly open on the blinds, apart from dust, there is still some kind of plaque, so I additionally spray it with some means.
She let her friend experience it, she didn't like it. It's easier for her to take them off and rinse them in the bathroom and that's it. But she lives on the 9th floor, and I live on the 1st.Naturally, the layer of dust we have is different, plus over time some kind of plaque appears which, except for the brush, is not washed off. And if you take into account the size of the bathroom and the size of the blinds, then for me personally it is very uncomfortable. I also scratched the bathroom with them. So I would buy it even only for some blinds (and what a saving of nerves).

Quote: koziv

And my big Klatronic did the best with the oven door. I couldn’t wash such dark streaks, they didn’t take funds, but Klatrosh coped with the scraper !!! I really enjoyed washing the mosquito nets. I washed the seams well.

Yes, I also have pollution except fatty harasho washed away. In general, there are no problems with the oven doors, I wash it immediately after cooking. Well, for the experiment I did not wash for a while and personally, according to my observations, it does not cope very well with oily bloom.

metel_007
Natay, thanks for the answer. I don't have a bathroom at all, just a shower. It is not realistic to wash the blinds there. I will definitely try
Hope
Girls - owners of large Klatronic, please write what dimensions this unit has. There is nothing about this on the Internet.
Nataly_rz
Quote: Hope

Girls - owners of large Klatronic, please write what dimensions this unit has. There is nothing about this on the Internet.
Hope, length 45, width at its widest point 28, height approximately 28 at the withers (all in cm)
Hope
Nataly_rz, thank you very much for your answer, otherwise I found out on the Internet today that he had a length of 67 cm, and was a little horrified.
itsdar
But I just registered to express my gratitude to the manufacturer. Think whatever you want on this statement, but I'm really glad I chose the big Clathronic. By the way, thanks to a thorough reading of this particular topic.
We have a Karcher brand store in the city, and we naturally tended to buy something from the brand. But when I went there, already making a choice between this and Klatronic, the issue was decided not even by the difference in price, but by consultation with their seller. Of course, an interested professional can sell anything, but I'm lucky with good people. Actually, we were looking for a cleaner for ourselves, intending to restore the upholstery of the child's sofa. No matter how they cleaned it, but to invite someone from outsiders to the child's room, for the sake of this greasy sofa, it was simply a shame. We have already decided to replace the upholstery or buy a new one, although in all other respects this is not a very bad sofa.
So, Karcher told me that no steam cleaner is intended for cleaning upholstered furniture, but only for hard surfaces. Well, of course, we also have a kitchen with a stove and an oven; and our bathtub has dirty seams (were). And the price of Klatronic via the Internet with the transfer of only 750 UAH. And of course, prices cannot be compared with Karcher's analogues. So we bought a large Clathronic.
You can guess already, of course, but in fact now our sofa is like new.
And today I experimented on two sheepskins. These skins have been inherited for many years. Well, not that they were completely killed, but it's not a pity to throw them out. We washed them in a typewriter, it seems like nothing else. He rolled one up and threw it out of sight, and the other hemmed on a child's ribbons on a computer chair. Here she was in a couple of months and was killed under it. All felled, color, and generally just throw it away. And so today I had nothing to do and undertook to experiment with the steam. At first I tried it just with a pistol, with its natural nozzle without any attachments, gently steaming individual places on the pile, clean them with a rag. But the skin still began to shrink, and the whole skin was so distorted that I thought it was definitely the end of it. Then he steamed with a wide nozzle with a rag and the skin returned to normal. Then I took off the rag and with the same attachment with its stiff brush, I began to mercilessly torment that skin. Then another one ... (True, it was even harder then to clean the brush itself from the nested pile). Well, they still do not differ in whiteness, but I was so pleased with the result that I considered it my duty to advertise with this letter and praise the manufacturer of Klatronic for this product.
makabusha
itsdar, could you describe exactly how you cleaned the sofa?

itsdar
Yes, in the most banal way, or rather a little bit of everything. First, I put on a round brush and steamed the sections of the casing strongly, immediately blotting them with a dry cloth.
Then, on the window brush, I tied a homemade pillow made as if it were, in principle, the same as the previous blotter turned out, but still it was more convenient with furniture. Just wiped the entire surface of the upholstery. And then I had to blow out the remaining dirt on the armrests with strong pressure with a fine nozzle. There the texture of the fabric is like stitches, like a knitted sweater. And then he steamed and blotted again until he got bored. But when everything was dry it was not a pity for the effort spent.
In general, I join all the voices who were at first disappointed with the steam cleaner, but with skill and sufficient humility, they fully appreciated this assistant. But everyone will need humility, the apparatus itself will not do anything.
I also first took up the floor tiles in the kitchen, rubbed with a round brush, used a nozzle under strong pressure, and rubbed with a regular stiff brush. Well, it turned out to be a very laborious process. He wiped a few stitches and spat on it. And the next time I took it up again, but without brushes, and the kitchen, well, made of such round steel shavings. First, he blew through one seam with the pressure of a fine nozzle, and immediately rubbed it with this float. He wiped off the dirt with a rag, once again blew it in one motion and wiped it clean. It takes a long time to describe it, but it is not too laborious and it worked out pretty quickly. And most importantly, now the tiles are as good as new. What was washed before with its whiteness and the same brush, still cannot be compared with the current result.
So humility to you and joy from the toy.
NataliaK
itsdar, thanks for sharing your experience! In general, now our assistants are entering a very tense period: all winter-autumn-spring large things must be steamed, dried and hung in a steamed cabinet ... My vision. Here's an astrakhan fur coat this winter did not have to be worn, so it is necessary to get it, process it, and there is still something hanging there that was not taken out this winter ... can I be the only one ... yeah, why am I: who cleans how steam wardrobes? please share
Manna
Came across the twin brother Clatronic DR 3280 - Bomann DR 921 CB

Clatronic DR 3280
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Bomann DR 921 CB
Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Feofania
I have a Monster 1200 steam cleaner. I use it all the time when I'm cleaning. I like.
Manna
I've rummaged through the Internet. Found a bunch of different steam cleaners. In addition to Karcher, Clantronic, Ariete, there is ... (within 16 thousand rubles)

Polti (Vaporetto Flash, Vaporetto Easy Stream)
Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Domena CS6 eco
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Akira (Pro 1700, Pro 2900)
Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Elna G3 Ferrari Geo Vap
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Euroflex (Monster SC 50-S Monster 1500, Monster SC 60-S Monsterprofi, Monster SC 45 Plus)
Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator)

De'Longhi XVT 3000
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Gorenje SC 1800 R
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Comfort NV 275
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Grand Master GM-VSC18
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

I think this is an incomplete list ...
NataliaK
How different they are ... but how many ... but the price and the look in the pictures suggests that all the same these are vacuum cleaners with the addition of steam, as functions ... that's 16 thousand rubles = 4 thousand. hrn. = 500 $ - that's how much Klatrosh ... but, I agree, even by the pictures the functionality cannot be compared! Very cool
Manna
Quote: NataliaK

after all, these are vacuum cleaners with the addition of steam, as functions ...
And not at all. These are really steam cleaners. They have no suction function. Only generate steam under pressure (3 to 5 bar, average 4-4.5 bar).

Quote: NataliaK
Well this is 16 thousand rubles. = 4 thousand. UAH = 500 $ - that's how much Klatrosh ...
This is only one, the most expensive (from Domena), 16 thousand. r., and on average everything is about 8 thousand. R., well, a couple for 10-12 thousand. r., and one of the Monsters even for 5 thousand. R. So ... the range of prices is quite large ... Although ... you cannot compare with Klatrosh, of course

And besides ... I limited the upper price limit to 16 thousand. p .... In general, there are over 20, and 27, and 33 well, etc.

And the functionality ... Well, yes, and the steam pressure is regulated for many, and there are all sorts of different nozzles, and a non-heating steam supply hose, well, etc. Although there is one whose purpose is narrowly directed - glass, mirror -, a tile cleaner from Gorenje (it has only one nozzle - with a rubber band) with a steam pressure of 5 bar.
nakapustina
And I finally got a little Clathronic. I already tried to clean the hood, stove, tiles, plumbing, batteries, mirrors. It seems to be happy. I especially liked cleaning the hood (well, I don't like cleaning it), the tiles on the floor. When I was cleaning the tiles, I was unpleasantly surprised where there was so much dirt from, it's just not clear
matroskin_kot
Natalia !!! Congratulations!!! Let it please, and not "unpleasantly surprised". But, next time the dirt will be 10 times less !!! And such an immediate joy. And the stove surprised me, debris flew out from somewhere under it, well, the rug in the corridor and the bathroom, after cleaning, they freshened up, but the brush was, so even though we clean it every day with a vacuum cleaner
nakapustina
Irina, thank you! Tomorrow I want to try cleaning the upholstered furniture. Let's see what happens
NataliaK
nakapustina, Natalia! Good luck flying with Klatrosh!
manna, thanks for the add. information! I think when the opportunity to purchase a large steam cleaner appears, I will be pleased with their variety! or even did not know that there are such ...
Manna
Quote: NataliaK
manna, thanks for the add. information! I think when the opportunity to purchase a large steam cleaner appears, I will be pleased with their variety! or even did not know that there are such ...
I'm trying to figure out which one I need. So I'm scouring the Internet. What I found, so I shared But I still did not understand which one I need

Girls who have a Monster, share how he is to you. Here they told so much about Klatrosh, pondered, but they didn't really say anything about the Monster ... Tell us in detail, pzhalysta
genak
Quote: Leska

it means he doesn't deserve attention
How much it deserves! For a year and a half I use it three times a week, everything in the kitchen, bathroom, toilet, well, there are different cracks, windows, floor in the hallway, even on equipment from afar, stains on the carpet, upholstered furniture, and so on. Cool assistant!
Manna
Quote: genak

I use a year and a half three times a week
Is the steam pressure sufficient? And the glass nozzle is convenient, cleans well, does not leave streaks? Whistle heavily when using a nozzle? Does the water leak?

I'm actually looking at 1500, not 1200. The manufacturer indicates the maximum allowable pressure of 1500m as much as 4.5 bar. But I somehow doubt it. Although, the working pressure is always lower ... In general, at the moment I choose between Karcher 1020 and Montreux 1500. The price is similar. But functions, reliability, performance ... and I don't know ... Who would help with the choice ...
Leska
Quote: genak

How much it deserves! For a year and a half I use it three times a week, everything in the kitchen, bathroom, toilet, well, there are different cracks, windows, floor in the hallway, even on equipment from afar, stains on the carpet, upholstered furniture, and so on. Cool assistant!
it means I was not lucky, I had to hand it back to the company on the 2nd day with great difficulty (only after the seller himself tried to clean the mirror in the office with me and was convinced of its weakness). There was something to compare with - a little clathronic lived at home for more than a year, and took the monster for her parents (the choice fell on him, since the clathronic was not on sale). I am very glad that you found a common language with him.
Manna
Here I found a video about Monsters SC20 (1200), SC50 (1500) and SC60 (MonsterProfi). The video clearly shows the difference in vapor pressure. Either the steam pressure of 1200m has been reduced. Is it generally regulated there?





Manna
And here is another interesting video about Monsters. It does show the top-end Monsters SC45 Plus, but it's not very different from other (mid-range) models.

Manna
And here is the Klatronics: dr 2930 and dr 3280



And this is Karcher's test 1.020

This is me all so ... for comparison ... suddenly someone will come in handy
genak
Quote: manna

Is the steam pressure sufficient? And the glass nozzle is convenient, cleans well, does not leave streaks? Whistle heavily when using a nozzle? Does the water leak?

There is enough pressure, I do not use nozzles at all, only a spout, there is no whistle, but if I understand you correctly, then it hisses like from a steam locomotive, water does not leak and the pressure is not regulated. Maybe I was lucky, but the only drawback is that after use, sometimes the top cap is not immediately unscrewed, that is, it does not get into the thread, you twist it, twist it and go. The new ones are apparently better, but I have sc 20 as in the video.
Manna
Quote: genak

There is enough pressure, I don't use attachments at all
And do not use a nozzle for glasses? Is it uncomfortable? Or is it just more convenient for you without attachments? How do you wipe off special dirt without attachments?
genak
You need to carefully drive the nozzle and, if there is not enough free space, like mine, you twist your hands and shift from one to the other, and without it, waved over the glass and wiped it off with a cloth. And to be honest, I don’t know where they are, I tried it only for glasses, I didn’t like it and put it somewhere. There seems to be no particular pollution, but there were some corrosive stains on the carpet - wiped it off several times without any chemicals. It would be nice to use a curve for the toilet, but I somehow manage. There was still cleaning liquid in the box - I also did not use it.

Leska
You are still lucky that you can pass next to it! But I wrote out a massager in a top shop and a broken one came to me and with a statement from some woman about its surrender due to marriage. Instead of repairing it, they sent it to me! I had to throw it out, because it's not enough life to mess with shipments back and forth!
Lenusya
A dream come true !!!
Today I received my steam generator with an iron like Stars and aunt Basichki .

Steam cleaner (steam generator)
I sit, consider, wait for everyone to leave to try
Lenusya
NataliaK , Thank you .
Aunt Besya thanks for your help, I tortured you with questions yesterday
So far, only vertical steaming of clothes is not working. Maybe you need to know some subtleties.
In general, I hope that we will become friends.
izvarina.d
Girls who have had clathronic 3280 for a long time, tell me, pliz, how long do the brushes last? Wear out quickly? Can I order new ones in the service? And why am I asking - after all, the nozzles are all one at a time, and, for example, push them into the toilet, and then into the oven, I can't. Moreover, disinfection will not help, I have such jumps. Therefore, I think to complete it. And so - according to general impressions - a rocket bomb
mowgli
And I saw Redmond here, but he is small, who has a thread? what do you think?
Vilara
And Karcher, excuse me, in general, is no one satisfied? Maybe there are happy owners?
interested, specifically, KARCHER SC 2.600 C
nebo
please tell me how do you clean carpets? Does anyone have experience cleaning mattresses?
Manna
Quote: nebo

please tell me how do you clean carpets? Does anyone have experience cleaning mattresses?
Discussed about carpets here, here, here, here... In general, a lot of where it was discussed ...
They also talked about mattresses somewhere ... I just don't remember where ...Steam cleaner (steam generator) And it seems they were talking not about cleaning, but about steaming from mites, etc. And if you clean the surface of the mattress, then I think it's the same as the upholstery ...
Manna
Quote: Vilara

And Karcher, excuse me, in general, is no one satisfied? Maybe there are happy owners?
interested, specifically, KARCHER SC 2.600 C
They talked about Karcher here, here, here, here... We discussed it somewhere else, but I won't find it overnight. This I mean that there were positive reviews. But this particular model, as far as I remember, was not discussed ...
Vilara
manna Thank you very much.
And the majority still preferred Clathronic. Of course, the price for Karcher is overpriced. Indicators and Klatronic and Karcher almost coincide as I understood. And who else can tell about plastic.
I have one device from Klatronic. He's 2 years old. It works for now (mmm), but the clips on the plastic cover flew off in the first month of operation. And the dishwasher made the lid "cloudy". So the plastic is not very good there
Pinky
Quote: Vafelka

I was just about to ask, has anyone already bought this one for themselves?

Hello everyone! By chance (or not?) I wandered into this Temko and saw these photos. The answer is 573 in this Temka (even it was not possible to insert a link) Girls, I have a mop, which is blue, in the lower photo, for 6 years already. I bought it back in the Kiev Top-shop, when they just released them on the market.
well, what can I say. I bought the first one, tested it and ... returned it immediately. Leaked with use. The advertisement is beautifully shown, in fact, the steam is wet. After washing the linoleum (for which, in fact, it was bought), the floor remains wet. We have to wipe it dry with a cloth. That is, double work. Returned, changed - the same result.But then I adapted - I wipe the floor with a mop from the White Cat. Yes, of course, longer, but the floors are disinfected. I can't wash it with water and detergents. I also steam carpets after vacuum cleaner. Remain a little wet, but there is no smell of any. I clean the tiles in the toilet and bathroom, but again I need to wipe it dry. It's a pity you can only use it on floors - you can't clean furniture-sofas. Uncomfortable and too wet. Here, after all, the steam temperature is only 100 *
If I bought it today, I would take the option on the first photo - there is a removable manual steam cleaner. That is, more functions. And the temperature of the steam in it is like 120 *, that is, the steam will be drier.
In general, excluding some inconveniences, the thing is necessary, especially when a cat-dog and kids are brought in the house.
I am currently looking for a good manual steam cleaner for furniture, pillows, kitchens, etc. Can you advise something? And then, I see, everyone admires Klatronic. Want to yourself or what?
Vitalinka
Girls, and I burned my hand with a steam generator. During cleaning, a flexible hose flew off and all the steam on the hand. I didn't even immediately understand where. And then I look at the hose by itself and the jug too.
Girls, be careful! This flexible hose is simply put on the nipple and is slightly smeared with regular silicone. It is better to fix it well immediately. Take care of your pens!
Natusichka
Girls! I need to clean the batteries after repairs, please advise how best. The batteries are ordinary, old cast iron. There is dust ...
NataliaK
Vitalinka, and for Klatroshi, all the joints are rotary, that is, he inserted it into the groove, turned it 90 degrees, and when replacing it, it is also necessary to press it, otherwise it should not be rotated to remove it.

Natusichka, I washed the cast iron battery (I have them with ribs and smooth ones): on the wall, so as not to bother, a large plastic bag, on the floor a rag, and steamed a couple of ribs with a nozzle on the hose forward in all directions - wiped them with microfiber, then further. .. if the nozzle does not reach the corners, add a corner nozzle. I have a pair of batteries painted with ball paint - you can't see the dust, but ... a microfiber cloth had to be rinsed a couple of times on the battery! although it seems to have wiped it off before ... I will be glad if my information helps.
Vitalinka
NataliaK, the flexible hose itself flew off. Where it is inserted into the swivel pipe, and this pipe into the kettle.
Natusichka
Natasha! Thank you very much, the information is very valuable, but I asked which steam cleaner is better to buy? ... But I read the information, it is very valuable, and I will do so ... when I buy something, just advise what is better to buy ... which steam cleaner and which model. Is the corner attachment included?
IRR
Quote: Vitalinka

NataliaK, the flexible hose itself flew off. Where it is inserted into the swivel pipe, and this pipe into the kettle.
Vitusya!
I reread everything, I probably didn't understand something and then how did you put the hose back in? just inserted? Or is there glue-silicone nada?

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