rusja
Yes, first spread a little with Sif, and then steam it with steam.
Asya Klyachina
Quote: TTT_23

I bought my steam cleaner (I have a VS-330 model) for almost three and a half thousand, in my opinion it is quite acceptable for such a household appliance. It would be interesting to know who bought theirs for how much?)
I decided on the choice, tossed between the large KARCHER SC 1.020 (Germany, power 1500, pressure 3.2) and ARIETE 4204.1 (assembly China, 1600 W, 4 bars, + 270 ml detergent container). I wanted ARIETE, but after studying the issue more deeply I bought Karcher. Ariete is bad with accessories, it is absolutely impossible to buy additional brushes, but they wear out, and there are few service centers in our city, they sell the goods, but there is no support, the nozzle and USYO have broken. But Karcher has an excellent network and service (even online stores, even ordinary ones), brass brushes, ordinary, any attachments you want, turbo brushes, etc. You also need to think about this in advance. I just started to work, but I liked it, the steam was ready in 2 minutes (it was stated that the steam is dry, no water flows from the pistol at all (as they sometimes wrote), the steam pressure does not drop at all and, despite fears, it washes the stove perfectly. how the grates and the airfryer drip away from the fat, before it was a torment to tear them up. Here's another purchase of brass brushes for this purposely, although soot is leaving. Of the minuses of Ariete, one complete set is declared on the site, but in fact it is more meager, is also alarming I think that when I will thoroughly remove everything in the house, later I will still buy a MONSTER 1200 manual jug (powerful for a jug), so that it is always at hand, after all, Körcher 1020 is like a small vacuum cleaner. We need both. I bought for 5100. p. in a company store, the price is the same.
Natusichka
TTT_23, for three and a half thousand - WHAT? Where do you live? Is it Ukraine or Russia?

Lozja, what kind of gel?
Lozja
TTT_23
Three and a half thousand rubles! who wrote the price, thanks for the information, I made sure that I took it inexpensively.
Stafa
My Karcher 1.020 came out with add. nozzles 8000 rubles (brass and simple brushes in the kit, for glass and textiles nozzles).
Manna
My set of Karcher 1020 (steam cleaner, round brushes and window nozzle) cost 6,200 rubles.

Stafa, and you often use the textile attachment. Is there any use in it?
Stafa
I cleaned roller blinds with this nozzle, steamed pillows, a mattress with them, and that's all for now. Somehow, the whole move does not reach. But it's ok to clean the rolls.
Manna
In principle, you can do without a textile attachment Roller blinds are nice to clean with a brush in a terry cloth cover
Stafa
I also tried this, - but the capture area of ​​the nozzle is larger, and I have 10 of those curtains + tulle for her, too.
mechanic
girls, and I also chose between Klatronic (large) and Karcher 1020. Klatronic has a very favorable price and in comparison with Karcher it is a little more powerful, but then I called the service center (which we have one for all of St. Petersburg) to inquire about buying additional ... nozzles for Clathronic, and I learned that for all the time they had not received parts or accessories! In general, I will most likely buy Karcher, but I would like to clarify:
Manna, you have steam cleaners of both manufacturers, have you tried to experiment with nozzles for interchangeability?
I went shopping today, but either a small clathronic is worth it, or an Ariet, and I didn't see the Karcher at all.
Manna
Quote: mashustik

Manna, you have steam cleaners of both manufacturers, have you tried to experiment with nozzles for interchangeability?
I went shopping today, but either a small clathronic is worth it, or an Ariet, and I didn't see the Karcher at all.
Mashustik, I already wrote earlier that the attachments are NOT interchangeable. They have different diameters and mountings.
And Karcher ... they have specialty shops. There are probably such people in St. Petersburg. There certainly is
mechanic
Quote: manna

Mashustik, I already wrote earlier that the attachments are NOT interchangeable. They have different diameters and mountings.
And Karcher ... they have specialty shops.
Manna, thanks for the answer. I probably did not understand so well when I read it, I decided that it was not compared with the Karcher. Okay, let's look. Today I was not at all on the way to the Karcher brand store. And the price for Klatronic made me happy.
Natalia K.
Girls, I am to you for advice. ATB this week will sell a steam cleaner like this:
Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Please advise to buy one or still buy another company
Oca
Can't find its characteristics: volume, vapor pressure? And another question about the cost, is it about 700 Russian rubles? I still don’t understand at what rate to translate. If less than 1000 rubles is cheap! (IMHO) If the steam pressure is 3 bar or 3 atm. and a capacity of 0.2-0.3 liters, I would buy. Of the nozzles I actively use three: the one in the picture is put on the steam cleaner, a round brush and a nozzle for windows. I have never used the "extension trunk", maybe it is not needed.
Manna
Quote: Oca

I have never used the "extension trunk", maybe it is not needed.
And I always use the clathronic with the "trunk". It's more comfortable for me. There is no need to hold the jug at all times. Just press the button.
Natalia K.
Wasp if translated into rubles it comes out 720 rubles. I myself have not found a description of this purifier. At my neighbor’s meat grinder of this company howls, buzzes and growls, my dear mother. If she includes her, the entire entrance knows that she is grinding something. In general, I heard not very good reviews about this company.
rusja
I think there is nothing special to break, but at least you gain experience and then fork out for a big Klatronic or Boman
Oca
I would have looked at the proposed steam engine "live" and on the spot I would have decided to buy or not
Quote: manna

And I always use the clathronic with the "trunk".
I need to try it comfortably without him: with one hand I hold on to the stepladder - with the other I stretch with a jug to the top of the balcony glass, or in an oven mitt I hold the lid and crawl with pressure on it with a brush. You do it like in a joke: how should you hold a hammer (steam cleaner) so as not to hit yourself on your finger (not scald yourself)? - with two hands! Today I will try this method.
May @
natalisha_31, I personally looked at this little steam more than once, but did not dare to buy it. I realized a long time ago that there can be no good equipment in ATB, it seems to me that all the nonsense is thrown there.
mechanic
Good day! I have a question for the owners of the Karcher steam cleaner. I stopped choosing all the same on the 1020 model, which attachments should be bought in addition, and without which you can live safely? For example, a large floor nozzle costs almost 2,000 rubles (almost 50% of the cost of the unit), but how much will it be in demand, or a rotary nozzle? What did you proceed from when you bought additional. nozzles?
Stafa
For glasses, and sets of round brushes - the rest, as it were, does not need to be poured, this is what is lacking for happiness.
romasic
Girls, hello everyone!
So I came to you for advice, I read the forum, I am looking for an answer to my question, but I never found it, maybe I slipped through: (((
I thought of buying a garment steamer, I sort of decided, decided to take Zauber MAX-230, (vertical)
not bad in all respects and not very expensive in terms of money,
reviews only from decoy-deframba and each "sandpiper praises its swamp")) Or maybe this model: Philips GC515 / 25 (in the form of an iron)
Now, like a hedgehog in the fog, what is better to buy?
Of course, the main task of the technique is ironing and cleaning, but probably this is very rare and if there is something that will not work for the money: ((
Share your opinion.
Manna
Quote: Stafa

For glasses, and sets of round brushes - the rest, as it were, does not need to be poured, this is what is lacking for happiness.
I support them I bought in addition

Quote: mashustik

For example, a large floor nozzle costs almost 2,000 rubles (almost 50% of the cost of the unit), but how much will it be in demand, or a rotary nozzle?
For the floor and included, but without a brush. Do you need it at all? I use the one that comes with a napkin very rarely, just to disinfect the floors (I have a laminate). And what is the rotary nozzle for? In any case, this is not the most popular nozzle, as it seems to me Although, I do not have it, so maybe I'm wrong If you buy it, share your impressions then
tatulja12
Quote: manna

For the floor and included, but without a brush. Do you need it at all? I use the one that comes with a napkin very rarely, just to disinfect the floors (I have a laminate). And what is the rotary nozzle for? In any case, this is not the most popular nozzle, as it seems to me Although, I do not have it, so maybe I'm wrong If you buy it, share your impressions then
I have been thinking for a long time which Körcher to buy, a jug or 1020. Now the house is being renovated, but when it's over, there will be laminate everywhere. manna, I have a question: what does it mean to disinfect floors? So I'm thinking, can I use the steam cleaner to its fullest, or will the jug be enough? I mean floor, laminate with varnish?
mechanic
I'm certainly not Manna, but I'll try to answer. The advantage of the steam cleaner is that you can clean it without using chemicals, just as when heated, the water turns into steam and goes outside, so you clean not with water and a wet rag, but with steam, which just disinfects, as an example, remember the sterilization of cans for household preparations. As for the laminate, the steam cleaner has the ability to adjust the power of the steam supply, but in any case, you need to initially know the class of the laminate, its moisture resistance. For myself, I stopped the choice on this unit precisely because of what was written above, especially if we take into account the fact of the imminent birth of a child and the presence of animals in the house (a dog and a cat), although I used to look in the direction of washing vacuum cleaners, all the same, in my opinion, cleaning with a steam cleaner is more effective, you can avoid the use of household chemicals and gentle cleaning in relation to the laminate! A jug is only good for small surfaces - stove, microwave, sink and you. dy, full cleaning with it cannot be done, it is rather as an additional. equipment will do.
tatulja12
mechanic, Thank you! It was the laminate that slowed me down. Laminate class 33 with varnish coating, it is written that it is moisture resistant. Masha, thanks for your help, dispelled all my doubts!
Tanyulya
I have both a steam generator and a washing vacuum cleaner, so a washing vacuum cleaner for floors and furniture is still better. it draws in excess moisture, leaving a lot of water from the steam generator. I use a steam generator to defrost the refrigerator, my kitchen, cupboards, dishes. all multicooker, but for floors, a washing vacuum cleaner is still better, well, that's my opinion. I agree to make a type of disinfection, but there is a lot of water after it, but it does not collect water.
fugaska
do not steam anything with chemistry! I tried to steam the tiles in the bathroom, foolishly ... at first I pissed chemistry on the tiles, let them stand a little and began to soar. chemistry in finely dispersed form is a nightmare! it is better to breathe clean vapor.

and the floors are hovering with a nozzle with a cover, it will immediately absorb excess moisture
Tanyulya
Quote: fugaska

and the floors are hovering with a nozzle with a cover, it will immediately absorb excess moisture
it does not absorb well, so I bought a vacuum cleaner
mechanic
Tanyulya, I will not argue because you have the opportunity to compare, but when I collected information on these units, and compared, I realized that cleaning the prom is more gentle, but after washing with a vacuum cleaner, furniture and carpets require more drying time and, accordingly, the floor under the carpet it stays wet longer, according to the degree of moisture absorption, then it was the moment of moisture residual between the laminate joints that was important for me, it is this drawback that the owners of washing vacuum cleaners point to, plus some have deformation of the laminating coating itself.The steam cleaner in this case turned out to be more humane since the steam pressure is not so strong in comparison with the power at which the water is supplied. Well, I also do not have carpets on the floor, so the option of a regular vacuum cleaner + steam cleaner is better for me. Well, I also have a tile "like a stone" and now it will not be enough for me to wash it with a washing vacuum cleaner! BUT these are just my conclusions from the volume of information that I re-read when I was struggling with temptations and the desire to have everything at once!
Tanyulya
Quote: mashustik

Tanyulya, I will not argue because you have the opportunity to compare, but when I collected information on these units, and compared, I realized that cleaning the prom is more gentle, but after washing with a vacuum cleaner, furniture and carpets require more drying time and, accordingly, the floor under the carpet it stays wet longer, according to the degree of moisture absorption, then it was the moment of moisture residual between the laminate joints that was important for me, it is this drawback that the owners of washing vacuum cleaners point to, plus some have deformation of the laminating coating itself. The steam cleaner in this case turned out to be more humane since the steam pressure is not so strong in comparison with the power at which the water is supplied. Well, I also do not have carpets on the floor, so the option of a regular vacuum cleaner + steam cleaner is better for me. Well, I also have a tile "like a stone" and now it will not be enough for me to wash it with a washing vacuum cleaner! BUT these are just my conclusions from the volume of information that I re-read when I was struggling with temptations and the desire to have everything at once!
I have carpet everywhere and in the house a dog, the same at first I took the steam generator only because of the dog (germs, etc., etc.), but everything dried for a very long time, so I had to take a washing vacuum cleaner, I use it once a week.
mechanic
Tanyulya, what is your steam cleaner?
tatulja12
Quote: Tanyulya

I have a carpet everywhere and a dog in the house, the same at first I took the steam generator only because of the dog (microbes, etc., etc.), but everything was drying for a very long time, so I had to take a washing vacuum cleaner, I use it once a week.
A washing vacuum cleaner is definitely not suitable for a laminate, so I will find out about a steam cleaner, whether it is suitable for a laminate. And we have an old washing vacuum cleaner, I know the principle of operation.
Manna
Quote: tatulja12

manna, I have a question: what does it mean to disinfect floors? So I'm thinking, can I use the steam cleaner to its fullest, or will the jug be enough? I mean floor, laminate with varnish?
I just mop the floors, and from time to time I use a steam generator to disinfect

Quote: mashustik

A jug is only good for small surfaces - stove, microwave, sink and you. dy,
Consonant
Quote: mashustik
full cleaning cannot be done with it
But with this, Cheyt disagreed not to do it? You just need to fill it with water more often. And the floors, of course, cannot be steamed. As for the rest, he is not inferior to the "vacuum cleaner". You even use a jug more often, because it is small, and you are not too lazy to get it, say, to steam a dress.

Quote: Tanyulya

I agree to make a type of disinfection, but there is a lot of water after it, but it does not collect water.
Tanyush, but I don't have much water left. I just don't constantly pull the trigger when I'm steaming the floors. Especially through a napkin. It also absorbs excess moisture.

Quote: Tanyulya

I have carpet everywhere and in the house a dog, the same at first I took the steam generator only because of the dog (germs, etc., etc.), but everything dried for a very long time, so I had to take a washing vacuum cleaner, I use it once a week.
A vacuum cleaner is convenient because it sucks in moisture, a steam generator cannot do that. Ideally, of course, a steam cleaner, but it costs money ... mamadaragaya

Quote: tatulja12

I will find out about the steam cleaner, whether it is suitable for the laminate.
For laminate, it can be used not constantly and not very steamed. It is not suitable for daily cleaning. I use a mop every day.
Tanyulya
Quote: mashustik

Tanyulya, what is your steam cleaner?
I have Hansa, I don't remember the model, I'll come home. So big, with a garment steamer.
Before that, I had H2O, but it broke in less than a year.
DJ
So I became the proud owner of Bomann DR 921
First impressions when I opened the box - the plastic stinks.
In comparison with a vacuum cleaner, it is lighter in weight. Maximum water capacity 1.5 liters.
First of all, I started with the toilet, our toilet is old, we have already bought a new one to change. But the interest is higher, probably after 10 minutes of steaming, the dirt under the rim of the toilet began to stick. But we have it very old, and I did not see any sense in scrubbing it until it was white, since there is a very strong stone deposit. I saw the result that the dirt flows down and it made me happy. :-)
The next thing, I decided to wash the stand from under the brushes, it was more difficult here, there are many different small corners of the holes, at the end for fixing, I walked over it with a brush and rinsed.
Next, I washed the container where we pour the powder, in one of the compartments where rinse aid is usually poured, we do not use it, and there it was like this
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

after processing, it became like this

Steam cleaner (steam generator)

Then the window sill was used. I had it dirty, and the first time I could not wash it, I did two approaches to it, but the result did not please me, I wiped the window sill with chemistry, gave it 5 minutes to act, and the steam cleaner went into action. Now I'm happy. When I started putting the pots back on it, I saw that they were dirty too, I managed to clean one earthen jug and the steam ended, here the photo shows the result in the distance glitters, the one that I washed, but not in the foreground.

Steam cleaner (steam generator)

The next day, I steamed things that were stored in vacuum bags. All things have taken on their original form: dance4: The only thing is, before steaming, before you aim at a thing, you need to sprinkle it into a glass, when only steam comes out, then you need to steam it. And then I got a few things wet. And I also cleaned the carpet, vacuumed it first, then I steamed it off, I did not expect much of the effect, and I did not see the cleanliness (I have a very old carpet), but on the probe it became soft (I already wanted to stroke it) raised the pile very well ... : good2:

And today I washed the kitchen fronts, there were a lot of splashes of fat on them, I did a great job!

I'm happy with the purchase. This is certainly not a panacea, which is ready, you need to go through with a rag, and a brush, and somewhere with chemistry, but this is done easier and effortlessly.
Scarlett
Well, the fact that I am a Rat by horoscope - all my relatives know, I need absolutely everything! Only bouts of manic cleanliness saves from complete clutter - then a roll of garbage bags gets out and everything that was considered unnecessary at the time (of an attack) flies into them! So what am I leading - from my grandmother, I inherited a sewing foot machine "Singer" born in 1903, and so I moved it to a new apartment (despite a heaped import donated several years ago!) And yesterday with the help of "Hilary" I completely washed it dust and dirt (she stood in the old house for 2 years) If anyone does not know, there is a huge frame made of forged cast iron with all sorts of squiggle vignettes and I had no idea how to clean it up before! And yesterday I even managed to paint it - to match the color of the bedroom, it remains only to put a new tabletop
Natusichka
Tanya! I also got such a rarity from my grandmother, only I don’t remember the company ... Now it’s in the garage ... I ask my husband to bring it home, but he resists ... Boom, try further, suddenly it will work! Can blackmail start?
Scarlett
Quote: Natusichka

Tanya! I also got such a rarity from my grandmother, only I don’t remember the company ... Now it’s in the garage ... I ask my husband to bring it home, but he resists ... Boom, try further, suddenly it will work! Can blackmail start?
Natus, my family also muttered to me - why do you need her, let's sell it (secretly - I have a real Singer), but I can't, my beloved grandmother taught me to sew on it when I was not even 5 years old! For those who are younger, I will explain - then not every adult knew how to sew on mechanical machines, and my dolls had not only dresses, but also bedding I translated scarce needles ...And I want to adapt my new car for embroidery. Although, to be honest, although I am a graduated dressmaker and have the "crusts" of an embroiderer, I now like to rustle more in the kitchen, but everything can still change
mechanic
Yesterday I became the owner of Karcher 1.020. Today I decided to test his abilities on the floor tiles in the kitchen. Our tiles look like a stone, that is, they are embossed and, apart from strong chemosis and a brush, cannot be washed. So, at first, a large nozzle for the floor with a rag went into action, of course there is an effect, but weak, so I had to use a nozzle with a round nozzle - that's when it started! Of course, it is more gemorno to cleanse, but what an effect and no chemistry! I even forgot how beautiful my tiles are! In general, I am happy as an elephant!
first snow
Well, everything, I can’t be silent anymore, I ordered a small clathronic, but I read the forum and begin to regret not having ordered a large one (this is all my husband’s fault, he says, buy a small one, try it, suddenly you don’t like it?). and now vague doubts torment me: will I be able to clean the only carpet 1.5 by 2.5 meters in the house with a jug? and disinfect the floors throughout the apartment? and another question about cleaning the hood - about the grate, I realized that it can be removed and cleaned, but the grate, under which the mechanism rotating air?
Sapphire
I became the owner of körcher 1020. I washed the tiles perfectly in the kitchen, steamed everything off the glasses. I'm happy so far. : girl_skakalka: I even steamed a new down jacket. I consider a necessary thing in the house, like a dishwasher, hp, cartoon ...
Marfushenka
Girls, and I, my beloved, bought from a friend as a gift - a bissel steam mop with a removable steam cleaner. As soon as I tested this unit (I washed the laminate, tried to clean the upholstered furniture), a friend called with a demand to tell "so how ... is it?" The lack of "happiness" in my voice strained me very, very much.
Anyone tell something about this device (preferably good)?
exiga
Quote: SAPPHIRE

I became the owner of körcher 1020. I washed the tiles perfectly in the kitchen, steamed everything off the glass. I'm happy so far. : girl_skakalka: I even steamed a new down jacket. I consider a necessary thing in the house, like a dishwasher, hp, cartoon ...
I have the same one, I just can't get enough of it! Every evening in the kitchen it is easy to wash the floor, steam out the inaccessible nooks and crannies in the kitchen and bathroom, and wash the windows - it's just happiness! I just wipe the entire window with a medium brush with a cloth, a small brush in the corners, and then a good rubber screed (I don't know how to call it correctly) to pull off excess moisture and VOIL! No streaks, crystal clear. Of course, plaque in the bathroom lends itself only to chemistry, but with the advent of Karcher, probably 10 times I buy less of any "rubbish"
yara
Quote: First Snow

and now vague doubts torment me: will I be able to clean the only carpet 1.5 by 2.5 meters in the house with a jug? and disinfect the floors throughout the apartment? and another question about cleaning the hood - about the grate, I realized that it can be removed and cleaned, but the grate, under which the mechanism rotating air?
Carpets and floors are unlikely, but the hood can be cleaned. And do not worry that you bought a jug, you will use it more often. Someone who has a big one is usually too lazy to pull it out after a while, but with a small one it is easier in this respect.
Omela
Oh, girls, about laziness, yes .. I don't always take out a little one. But if you put it on! Yesterday I steamed the floors in the kitchen in 10 minutes !!!!
* Anyuta *
Girls ... I also caught fire with such a unit ... And for a very long time .. Finally, I decided .. now I'm going to order ... Maybe someone knows something about such a thing? Price RUB 1710

Steam cleaner (steam generator)

volume of only 0.24 liters. Isn't it not enough?
Manna
Anyut, in my opinion, all these jugs are the same. And they are all in volume per glass. Enough for a little cleaning. The advantage of such babies is that it is less lazy to use a jug if you need to steam some little thing.
* Anyuta *
Yes, I now, by and large, the point of buying is to try what it is and what it is eaten with .. Ditch 3 pieces and throw it later ..I can’t afford ... 1700 is also not a small amount .. just this is the cheapest option I have found ...

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