Bread began to stick to the mixers! Who has had the same problems or has?

In no case should hot water be poured !!! Because of this, my silicone gasket burst ... a red one on the rod on which the spatula is put on! And then ... though the water did not immediately flow into the bearing and mondets (sorry) bucket !!!
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I have one of these gaskets that misses a little (from the very beginning), though so little that it absolutely does not interfere (yet) with the process. So the father (the sponsor and buyer of HP) ordered to drip sunflower oil there after each wash. But if my memory serves, I didn’t fill my hot shape.

Yesterday I took out the stirrers from the almost stale cake (it stood for 2 hours after baking), much less hole! And before that, in my cupcakes, the largest were

DO NOT DRINK sunflower oil! The bearing will stick over time, and then you will not do anything with water. Ask familiar techies!
I bought I-20 oil on the market and 2-3 drops through one baking on the bearing on both sides. Then I wipe it with a cloth. Don't be afraid, don't get poisoned

[food, anti-adhesive lubricants, type PAM (FEM)]

... not butter, but food, anti-adhesive lubricants, type PAM (FEM) and not pour, but lubricate them, the mixer and the axle on which it sits ...
And, if possible, pull out the mixer after the last stirring ...

In no case should hot water be poured !!! Because of this, my silicone gasket burst ... a red one on the rod on which the spatula is put on! And then ... though the water did not immediately flow into the bearing and mondets (sorry) bucket !!!
I have one of these gaskets that misses a little (from the very beginning), though so little that it absolutely does not interfere (yet) with the process. So the father (the sponsor and buyer of HP) ordered to drip sunflower oil there after each wash. But if my memory serves, I didn’t fill my hot shape.

Yesterday I took out the stirrers from the almost stale cake (it stood for 2 hours after baking), much less hole! And before that, in my cupcakes, the largest were

But I think that the gasket burst from a sharp drop in temperature. At least the chances are great
And another tip: In this case, do not put the bread with a delayed start ................. ... long water supply to the bearing is obtained!

Thanks for the advice!
I think that the gasket did not burst, otherwise it would leak more. I rarely bake with a delayed start, because I like bread with sourdough, and it can be overridden.
As for the I-20 oil, I'll tell my father, an experienced engineer and, in general, a techie

Cool, but where to find ...

Fir-trees, I have never seen such lubricants in real stores in Ukraine (although I may not notice, although I usually study the assortment of stores).

And the search engine does not give out anything like that in the Internet stores. I can't even imagine where to look. I'd buy this.

Just use what is available-advised a lot, choose according to "taste", and then draw conclusions and share the results.

Peace be with you bakers!
people! "!! and where is the bearing
silicone gasket is then a bushing in which the axle is lapped
with a groove for a sealing rubber ring - that's all
even if the silicone gasket bursts \ by the way, in my bucket, one of the gaskets did not fit snugly from the beginning \ it was worn very well
and no water drips
but the seal may wear out as it is made of ordinary rubber
and not very good quality, so if the seal bursts then
the axle can jump out and then the inconvenience will be that you have to lay food with a bucket already inserted into the stove

thu-thu, while this construction is not very worried. and still under warranty. Although you can only wish to walk on our guarantees ...

Peace be with you bakers!
people! "!! and where is the bearing
silicone gasket is then a bushing in which the axle is lapped
with a groove for a sealing rubber ring - that's all
even if the silicone gasket bursts \ by the way, in my bucket, one of the gaskets did not fit snugly from the beginning \ it was worn very well
and no water drips
but the seal may wear out as it is made of ordinary rubber
and not very good quality, so if the seal bursts then
the axle can jump out and then the inconvenience will be that you have to lay food with a bucket already inserted into the stove

You can say what you want! But with me everything was contrary to your beliefs. The silicone burst, and after a while water began to drip from under the bucket!

I burst after a month of operation.
There is an option that the bucket was hot when they started washing it in cold water.
The service said that the bucket is an accessory and there is no guarantee for it.
I wrote the cart to the dealership, because the bucket does not go as an accessory in the warranty card.
I'm sitting waiting for an answer from the office.
Maybe they will change.

[Vladimir_r]

Vladimir_r , they are trying to deceive you, a bucket breakage is a warranty case, here many had similar problems

Peace be with you bakers!
Antonova Silicone burst, water after some time began to drip from under the bucket!
yes, but you do not know if the o-ring is intact or if it
never at all \ hello again to the chinese \

In no case can hot water be poured !!! Because of this, my silicone gasket burst ... a red one on the rod on which the spatula is put on! And then ... though the water did not immediately flow into the bearing and mondets (sorry) bucket !!!

Sorry, I wanted to write shorter, but it turned out an error! They took Vero out of the oven, took out the bread, removed it, tidied it up, this is 7-10 minutes, only then water in the bucket, that is, it is "lukewarm"

A hot frying pan, e.g. from under cutlets
With a bucket, boom is very neat !!! On silicone oil. technical analysis of "flights" for me personally is not enough! There are five eaters, young, eternally wanting. just have time! prepare!

[Vladimir_r]

Vladimir_r , they are trying to deceive you, a bucket breakage is a warranty case, here many had similar problems

Give a link (motivation. To prove how?) Let it lie in this topic for everyone.

It seems to work for me so far .....

Give a link (motivation. To prove how?) Let it lie in this topic for everyone.

It seems to work for me so far .....

You seem to have different seals.
How to prove?
No way!
Only by convincing the receiver in the service center.

I am waiting for a response from the representative office.
By the way, for some reason in Ukraine it is not, and only the Russian phone gives.
Probably whatever we call.

You seem to have different seals.
How to prove?
No way!
Only by convincing the receiver in the service center.

I am waiting for a response from the representative office.
By the way, for some reason in Ukraine it is not, and only the Russian phone gives.
Probably whatever we call.

Read about my problem here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=6676.0
I referred to Russian bakers, who in such cases had their bucket changed under warranty. IT HELPED !!!

Give a link (motivation. To prove how?) Let it lie in this topic for everyone.

It seems to work for me so far .....

You know, I have a similar problem and now everything is at the debriefing stage, I will definitely unsubscribe in detail in the relevant topic
For example, here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2671.225

And you can refer to the fact that you called the manufacturer's hotline and they told you - the bucket is broken - the warranty case
I also told the expert about our site and he came in with me, was surprised by our activity

Guys, girls-boys, this topic is actually about the sticking of bread to the stirrers, so let's not flood
People will look for sticking, and here we are with our services

So I opened the topic about this:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=8532.0
Let's discuss it there.
By the way, is there no one to call in Ukraine? In the sense of representation.
What is the direct number of the person in Russia who is responsible for the warranty?

Good day to all! I have an oven for only a month and a half, and the shoulder blades stick constantly. The husband made a hook from a Chinese stick (he just cut one end like a regular crochet hook). If the shoulder blade remains in the bread, I gently pull it out with this hook. Of course, the hole still remains. I tried to lubricate the blade with vegetable oil - the result is zero. Today I greased it with cream. Now the bread is baked. I'll tell you later.
My friend LG, she just can't understand my problem. She has never had such adhesion! Apparently, Mulek's coating is of poor quality.

Oven Moulinex 2000, a year of daily use and I can not remember a case that the mixer remained on the shaft. Taking out after cooling the bread is an ugly hole.
Gentlemen, do not worry, after the last workout, get the scapula out of the dough !!! A very neat hole turns out.

I will definitely try to take it out after kneading. But yesterday's experiment was a success (partially). I left for work in the evening, my husband took out the bread, he says that a little bread was left on the spatula. (I took out a spatula crocheted from hot bread)

Peace be with you bakers!
zhmenka79 is optimal to take out after kneading, and if you gape then
get it when the bread cools down a little

The problem with the sticking of bread to the mixers and pulling out the crumb was solved by LOTS of greasing the bottom of the bucket, the axles and the mixers themselves with butter. I leave it for the night too. No problem.
Usually, when I take the bucket out of the oven, I let it cool down with the bread for another ten minutes. Then I shake out the bread. It takes off easily. Even if the stirrers are baked in bread due to dough leaking under them (which is most often the case), I leave them there until the bread cools completely, and then I take them out with a hook. The baked crust breaks easily, the stirrers get out without crumb, leaving neat curly holes in the bread.

On photos.

Stage 1. The bread is shaken out of the bucket. The stirrers are baked.

Stage 2. The stirrer is removed. Myakish is intact.

Stage 3. The second stirrer is removed. The crumb is still intact.

Experience has shown that the main thing is not to spare oil. I just take a piece of butter from the oil can and begin to spread it generously. I leave the rest of the oil in the bucket as part of the recipe.
And before, a torn crumb was one of the main headaches.

And yet, I do not understand how the mixer can remain in the bucket without damaging the crumb? She sits on the shaft very freely and when the bucket is turned over, it should just fall out. If it remains in the bucket, then it is baked with crumb. I'm wrong?

vi_kon, you are absolutely right, if the stirrer remains in the bucket it ALWAYS carries a solid piece of torn crumb on it. The question is, WHY does the agitator stay in the bucket? Is it much more natural for her to stay in the bread when shaking it out of the mold? It turns out that it is held by baked dough, which penetrates into a rather large hole between the mixer and the shaft? Here's how to avoid it? This happens rarely, but it is unpleasant. Especially the lemon pie kills me, the last two times in the bucket there was a FOURTH part of the pie together with a stirrer !!!
By the way, in the first two weeks of operation of the stove, there were no problems with mixers at all. Soap is always a soft cloth, though unknowingly at the beginning I used dish detergent, maybe it influenced? Now I take out the stirrers only from completely cooled bread, or after the last kneading, otherwise the results are deplorable.

vi_kon, you are absolutely right, if the stirrer remains in the bucket it ALWAYS carries a solid piece of torn crumb.The question is, WHY does the mixer stay in the bucket? Is it much more natural for her to stay in the bread when shaking it out of the mold? It turns out that it is held by baked dough, which penetrates into a rather large hole between the mixer and the shaft? Here's how to avoid it?

As you can see, if you lubricate the pins with plenty of oil, then the crumb will not penetrate into the gap.

By the way, in the first two weeks of operation of the stove, there were no problems with mixers at all. Soap is always a soft cloth, though unknowingly at the beginning I used dish detergent, maybe it influenced? Now I take out the stirrers only from completely cooled bread, or after the last kneading, otherwise the results are deplorable.

I wash with the fairies, soak and rinse for a few minutes. And nothing. Previously, I just washed it with water, but the stirrers were still baked with crumb.

I, too, take out the stirrers from the cooled bread. Well, about an hour after shaking out of the bucket.

Hi everybody!
Renata, don't beat yourself up for washing the stirrers with detergents and that is why they began to bake in bread. I washed only with warm water without any means. At first everything was fine, but after 3 months of intensive use, the mixers remain in the bucket along with a decent piece of crumb. Lubricated with vegetable oil, and butter, and margarine - the result is the same. Therefore, now I am trying to take out the shoulder blades after the last workout (thanks for the tip to colleagues on the problem on the site!)
Of course, this is very inconvenient, since you have to follow the process. But the result is a neat hole in the bread. The most interesting thing: the friends of the stove LG, Kenwood have no such problem ...!?

[zhmenka79]

Therefore, now I am trying to take out the shoulder blades after the last workout (thanks for the tip to colleagues on the problem on the site!)
Of course, this is very inconvenient, since you have to follow the process.

zhmenka79 , why follow the process?
I set a timer, or an alarm clock for the last workout and go about your business, and at the signal, go and take out the stirrers ...

At first everything was fine, but after 3 months of intensive use, the mixers remain in the bucket along with a decent piece of crumb.

You see, Zhmenka79, you have 3 months without detergent. lasted, and I have 3 weeks with the detergent. Although the problem may not be in the washing method, but in the quality of the non-stick coating of the stirrers in different models of this manufacturer.
Today I put Darnitsky from fugaska for the night, on the advice of the members of the forum, for greater porosity, I did not add vegetable oil at all, did not lubricate the stirrers with anything. They, of course, remained in the bread, but they were removed without any problems, the crumb ABSOLUTELY did not stick to them. Who would have thought??? I thought the presence of vegetable oil in the dough helps it NOT stick to the stirrers ...

The most interesting thing: the friends of the stove LG, Kenwood have no such problem ...!?

Apparently, this is mainly a problem of Mulinex

Almost all of my text turned out in a quote, I apologize for the inconvenience, I'm not a magician, I'm just learning ...

It's been four months already x \ oven, the crumb remains on the shoulder blade, if I bake in the afternoon, then I take it out after the last kneading. but baking on the timer at night ...
A logical question arises: the stove is still under warranty, the blade is clearly defective, will it be changed under warranty? Maybe someone tried to exchange?

Hello everyone!!! I read Temko and I see that not the only one I have such a problem. Yesterday I experimented. At the beginning of the product placement, I first poured the oil directly onto the stirrer shaft, and then everything else. After the end of the cycle, the mixer was easily removed from the shaft, but from the bread, as always ...


I'm going to go to the service, can they change the mixer? If not, then you have to buy it

[Nemo]

Nemo , do not waste time, it is unlikely that the mixer will be replaced for you, this is the design of the oven, it is easier for the mixer to stay in the bread, since it sits freely on the shaft. Buying a new paddle will not solve the problem. If possible, simply remove the agitator after the last deboning. Knowing the time of the last deboning before proofing, I take out the mixer when the timer rings. Try it!

Congratulations to everyone on Victory Day !!! Good to you, love, happiness, peace !!!
After the holiday, I'm also going to try to exchange the mixer under warranty, but I'm not sure if this will work. You can buy, of course, but the pleasure is expensive. I called the service: price = 75 hryvnia (in rubles = multiply by about 5). Interestingly, and from other models of x \ stoves does not fit ours?

As far as I understand, the shaft diameters may coincide, but the design. must be looked at firsthand. If the mixer sits a little lower, then the bucket must also be changed, it will scratch the same. Yes, most likely not to change, but to buy. Cover it with another layer of Teflon, but where to get it ...

[The stirrers in Moulinex bread makers are made of stainless steel with a non-stick coating.]

I asked the question about the shoulder blades on the Moulinex website, here is the answer:
The stirrers in Moulinex bread makers are made of stainless steel with a non-stick coating.

I just can't believe it !! Or the coating is worthless, but I have it whole, not scratched and the mixer gets stuck all the time, or rather, there has never been a case that the mixer is not stuck in the bread !! I'm not talking about the expensive Moulinex, with two blades, but in the OW 3000 and OW 2000 the blades are definitely stuck.
By the way, something is a light spatula (23 grams), metal does not look like a stainless steel at all, it looks more like aluminum.

[puel]

puel , is it important to you what kind of metal ...
I now have Daewoo and Panasonic, and so in both there are no such problems with the mixer as in Mulechka
Although I want to give it credit, it kneads better, more power ...

[Mueslik]

Mueslik, to me, it would be absolutely all the same from what the mixer was made - if it corresponded in quality to the declared one and left the bread without any problems. I don't like when people who have no idea what they are talking about work on the manufacturer's website in the service department.

I think they're lying about a stainless steel! Technologically, it is much easier to cast from a mixture of aluminum + other metal than from stainless steel. This is usually a silumin. And this is also the cost.

Yes, for a long time I have not been in this topic ... I take out the stirrers all and sundry, and whatever. My aunt once washed them with an abrasive washcloth ... In short, the mixers are experienced.
I'm afraid to repeat what has been said many times, but I personally now have two options to combat the sticking of bread to the mixers:

1. I take out the agitator after the last stirring (this is about 2 hours or 1 hour 50 minutes before the end of the program, here the topic was a scheme for Mulinex 5002). (Although my hands become sticky in Borodino, br-rr.)
Even then, the bread can stick to the pins and fall out of the bucket badly. Therefore, after the end of baking, I take out the bucket from the HP, let it cool a little (10-15 minutes, you need to make sure that the bread does not get wet), after which the bread falls out perfectly. I put it on the bars.

2. if you need to bake on a timer or simply did not have time to remove the stirrers at the right time, then you can try to shake out the bread immediately after baking (with the mixers together). If it doesn’t work, let it cool slightly in a bucket too. Remove the stirrers from the bread after almost complete cooling. Then the losses will be minimal.

But still, I once had the biggest problems with cupcakes, and I haven't baked them for a long time ... I will need to try the method

With each bread it is different - it gets stuck in black, and after cooling down I calmly pry it off with a wooden stick and pull it out. It does not get stuck in white or baked goods, but remains in the bucket, but at the same time, a little aesthetic hole turns out But! Such troubles happen only with delayed bread. which I put in the morning. If I put the food in and bake right away, then everything will normally come off. And what's the problem? In the cover of the stirrer or in the dough? Just in case, I tried the tips with oil - it became less sticky.

I have an old Hitachi 303 oven, I have been using it for 5 years, the stirrer is all shabby, but I have never got stuck in bread.
My personal opinion, if the agitators get stuck, or they have to be removed after kneading, and even lubricated with oil, this is not an oven.

Peace be with you bakers!
Lecs --- or they have to be taken out after kneading, and even lubricated with oil - this is not an oven.

Duc it's more aesthetics than a problem with extraction

Yes, aesthetics is important, I agree especially for our brother of the Slavs, who saw beautiful things on sale in the last 15 years, but a thing, a technique must be functional, it must first of all work
and work as indicated in the passport.
My passport says this: Why did the mixer come out with the bread?
Answer: This is normal as the agitator is a removable element. Use a non-metallic stick or pliers to remove the agitator.
Note The stirrer may be hot.
Fluorocarbon coated stirrer and container.

I want to add that 5 years ago for me and not only, the main criterion for choosing a stove was precisely that nothing sticks to the mixer and to the container, I climbed all the forums and the Hitachi stove was in 1st place according to this indicator. On my advice, these ovens were purchased by about 15 people, maybe more. Panasonic was generally not held in high esteem, LG was taken, but there were problems with the bucket now I don't remember exactly which ones. Now the problem is the old stove, but it bakes, we need something in return, but no, Hitachi have stopped selling, which is a pity. I think that the highly respected Admin has not yet found a replacement for this oven.
I want to give advice to the happy owners of Moulinex ovens, I myself really like it, I think it is appropriate to write a general complaint letter signed by most of the forum participants who operates this oven, to the representative office of this company and indicate all defects, especially in the part of the mixers. It is desirable to indicate that in the near future an independent examination will be carried out in terms of the material and coating used.

Peace be with you bakers!
Lecs - indicate all defects especially in the part of the agitators

I personally have no problems on this topic
agitators somewhere 50 to 50 or remain on the shafts or pulled out together with the bread, but in this case the hook is provided
but I take them out after the last kneading solely because of the minimal holes in the bread
although in fairness it should be noted that if I make a cupcake or charlotte or something with a high content of nuts or raisins
I try not to miss the end of the batch, since in this type of baking, the stirrers get stuck specifically, and even if allowed to cool and neatly -
pull out the stirrers neatly, then still a decent piece breaks off

Yes, then this is not a problem, I thought that everything is much more serious, judging by the previous posts, where people are indignant.

Muslik, to me, it would be absolutely all the same what the mixer was made of - if it corresponded in quality to the declared one and left the bread without any problems. I don't like when people who have no idea what they are talking about work on the manufacturer's website in the service department.

I asked the question about the shoulder blades on the Moulinex website, here is the answer:
The stirrers in Moulinex bread makers are made of stainless steel with a non-stick coating.
I just can't believe it !! Or the coating is worthless, but I have it whole, not scratched and the mixer gets stuck all the time, or rather, there has never been a case that the mixer is not stuck in the bread !! I'm not talking about the expensive Moulinex, with two blades, but in the OW 3000 and OW 2000 the blades are definitely stuck.
By the way, something is a light spatula (23 grams), metal does not look like a stainless steel at all, it looks more like aluminum.

Friends, I have the same problem with Kenwood. (((((

I never found a solution other than to lubricate with oil. Does not exceed.
On the main program for almost any recipe - it always remains in the bucket, but on it there is a large piece of bread (
My husband is a physicist, and he says that this is due to the fact that the blade overheats very much - it is thicker and burns on it, even on a "type" non-stick coating ..

But today...

You will laugh, but he baked the bread himself and the spatula came out of the bread perfectly.

He says he smeared it with palm oil - technical.
But I didn't feel anything.

Is it generally edible? He says it's edible ...

Dear belka.red
I do not advise you to use palm oil. According to many studies, it is a carcinogen.