Kneading machines

Kneading machines

Here's what I found in the Internet, look, read and rate.

The idea is this - in these machines, the dough is kneaded not only with one hook, but also falls off with the second additional knife.

Bosch Universal Plus Mixer ** SPECIAL **
Electrolux Assistent DLX mixer (Magic Mill)

Admin, how lovely! And what is the volume of the bowl? I look-there is also a double whisk for the cream?

I can’t say anything, all the information "made in otteda", I translated the text, I gave links to sites.

I can't say anything about Bosch, but I looked very closely at Electrolux when I picked it up. An excellent food processor This is exactly what Lyudmila (mariana-aga) uses. She wrote that he kneads the dough like a god. Only somehow it did not work out for me with his purchase. It is impossible to buy at our place, only in the far abroad ... and the fool comes out not small and not easy, and the price is not childish and only on order. It is dumb to buy without feeling alive. Besides, who will repair it if something happens? Although they say that they practically do not break.
A cup there for 7 liters. Probably very good for those who cook a lot. But my husband reared up and said that he didn’t want to see such a bucket of disgusting design in the kitchen. I had to look for a compromise option))

And I fell in love first, in Bosch. What is it? According to the links, only the second opens, and the first sunk into my soul. In general, I am a big fan of Bosch and I look closely at their technique, but I have never seen such a miracle.

If Electrolux is a full-fledged food processor with all possible functions, then Bosch's capabilities are limited to kneading dough, beating and an additional 1.5 liter mixer. Mixing max. up to 2 kg of flour. It costs about 260 euros in Germany. Although, you need to look, maybe you can also buy various attachments for it too? ..

In general, look in the search engines Bosch MUM food processors, they are of a wide variety of models, capacities and bowl volumes. It is also on sale in Russia.

I have a BOSCH MUM 4756 with a large metal bowl and a kneading hook - it suits me. Bread dough mixes very well.

And my MUM 47 is a cool thing! Powerful and neat. It is very convenient that you can make minced meat, for example, and then mix it with the rest of the ingredients. Moreover, it is very careful and neat. The whisk in it (like the hook, to which there are almost no alternatives at all) - walks along an interesting trajectory, which allows you to collect almost all the dough both from the walls and from the middle. That is, there are no impurities.

And my MUM 47 is a cool thing! That is, there are no impurities.

I don't quite agree with you

When I knead the dough, it is thin at first, then thickens under the influence of the kneading.
But sometimes you have to remove the dough from the sides of the bowl with a silicone spatula, since the kneading knife does not quite reach the walls of the bowl, and sticks to them, which is not good for kneading.

That is why I put my eyes on the kneading machine, because in addition to the kneading knife, there is an additional roller (scraper) in it, which removes the sticky dough from the walls of the bowl, and then it all mixes.
Gluten threads are formed by careful kneading, rotating it in a bowl, and not when flour just moistened with liquid is at rest.

My opinion

Better dough kneading.

For the rest, a good harvester, and the minced meat mixes well, I agree with this, I do this myself often

How do you like the new Boshik? The mixing bowl in it is what you need!

I saw him live in the store. Decent car.Very similar to Kenwood 10-20, visual difference in color and material of the case, Kenwood looks more solid. Although I don't think they are very different in terms of performance. The steel case of Kenwood was more suitable for me under the kitchen, and I would have considered this Bosch without fail.
but in general, if I finally go crazy, then I'll take myself another Boshik with a dough dumper, as in the top photo ... and I don't need anything else from technology ... probably

By the way, I found Boshik on sale in Ukrainian Internet stores. Surely, in Russia too. You need to watch the BOSCH MUM6N11 model.

I also found BOSHIK
Food processor Bosch MUM6N11


Power 800 W
Speeds 4
Attachments - utility knife, dough attachment, beater attachment, shredding disc
Bowl blender.
Overload protection is
Bowl - plastic

Food processor Bosch MUM6N21



Power 1000 W
Bowl capacity 6.2 L
Blender is, volume 1.5 l
Speed ​​control: 4
Attachments - utility knife, dough attachment, beater attachment, shredding disc
Overload protection is
Bowl execution: stainless steel. steel

I liked the second one more, the bowl is metal, the power is large, the capacity is "lumpy"

I liked the second one more, the bowl is metal, the power is large, the capacity is "lumpy"

Uh-huh, undoubtedly better ... only if I start talking about buying another harvester in the near future, then my husband will finally doubt my adequacy, but he really wants to ... I don’t say anything to him when he’s for the 1001st time buys some garbage for tuning the car

I've also thought about my own "adequacy".
Where to put the BOSH 47 combine with the same bowl, only with a different knife.

Summary: it is necessary to reduce traffic to the Internet, and not to climb other sites, in order to avoid searching for something else, and thereby create problems for yourself and your loved ones.

I looked at the second one - their performance is the same, for 2 kg of flour (4 kg of finished dough) they are calculated ... They differ only in the bowl material and power. Of course, metal would be more suitable for me ... You just need to figure out what you might need to immediately knead dough from 2 kg of flour

I understood that "adequacy" went for a walk aside and while it is gone we are already ripe for buying

We are all technically obsessed and adequacy rarely comes here.

Food processor Bosch MUM6N21

girls, did someone use it? how he kneads, please tell us. I want to change my Bosch MUM4756EU to this one, exclusively for kneading dough. write what you think of him, I will

Zest, and who did you buy after thinking about Electrolux? how are your impressions?

while looking over the Internet in search of what to choose - I came across this video:
it shows the Bosch 6N in action (not the 21, but the previous 800 watt model). I was interested in the possibility of whipping and kneading small amounts of ingredients (for bread weighing 750-800 g). the video convinced me

and here - kneading a small amount of dough in Boch (4 cups of flour)
I think I'll dwell on the bosha ...

dear members of the forum)) I get more than one PM message on the choice of a kneader, so I decided to answer on the forum. I hope you will understand me and will not be offended that I do not answer each one individually.
Of course, with the initial choice, I was very seduced by Electrolux. Moreover, I had no problems with buying it, despite its absence on sale with us.
But, upon closer examination, such limiting moments arose:
- when using various attachments, it is required to turn the unit from side to side, which means that additional space is needed on the sides - in front and behind the unit - I do not have it;
- the appearance is not very satisfying;
- very large bowl capacity (excessive for normal home use (in my opinion);
- lack of warranty repair (if you buy in distant countries).

For these reasons, I refused to buy it.

Boshi looked at it too. But ... in my amateurish opinion ...when probing, viewing, touching, they lost to Kenwood. She stopped at it.

It was torn for a long time between 10 and 20. The difference is in the capacity of the bowl and, if I have not forgotten, in some insignificant power. I figured out how much I could bake at the same time in my oven, and came to the conclusion that I didn't need the 20th at all.

And so Kenwood chief 10 got.

But ... sometimes, when kneading dough with a lot of bran, I get the impression that he does not mix them evenly, rather in a spiral. So, there is no perfection in the world)) As for whipping proteins, curd cream, kneading biscuits - I did not even suspect that such impeccable quality could be achieved))

Good luck with your choice! I would be glad if I helped at least something.

And yet it's a pity that no one can compare - Kenwood 10 or 20 and Bosch MUM6N21
Terribly wondering if Bosch kneads better than Kenwood or not

Why be sorry?

Make a request on the Internet and get a comparison table for Kenwood and then compare with Boschik.

And yet it's a pity that no one can compare - Kenwood 10 or 20 and Bosch MUM6N21

julifera , I can't compare with Kenwood either, but I can tell you about Boch 6N21 - I bought it, I'm very happy with it. kneaded cakes for Easter - yield - 5 kg of dough, kneaded perfectly - until the gluten develops well, the whole mass in 15 minutes at the lowest speed. there is a 6-liter bowl in it, and they write that the maximum is 4 kg, but I needed more - I shoved it and before that I kneaded the dough on rye bread, I bake small 400-500 g loaves, mine love fresh bread. kneaded perfectly, the kneading hook is so arranged in it that no matter how much dough it takes, it takes well.

I looked at the kenwoods in the store - they must be kept on the table, they are like a sewing machine, only rather high. and boshi are not so tall, they can be hidden in a box. I have no room on the table, it mattered to me too.

here. if you want to know - ask - I will answer

Lisss's, many thanks for the answer!

It's great that he kneads a small amount of dough well.
Does the dough remain on the walls, if rye, for example, is sticky, or does everything itself catch on in the end?
Judging by the video from the Internet - the walls are clean, but this is wheat

Or if you beat butter and sugar with whisks, for example, 200 grams - will there be a lot on the walls?

julifera , the kneading hook is such that it pulls everything to the center (although it is completely wild in shape and I could not believe that it would capture with sticky wheat-rye (I was kneading Ukrainian) - there was nothing on the walls, everything got to the center.

as for whipping butter with sugar - I haven't whipped it yet, but just tomorrow I should do such whipping, a small amount of ingredients - if nothing interferes, I'll post a photo to you

julifera , sorry, I didn't write - I only needed 61g of oil for the test cream, so I didn't cover the 6-liter bowl with a thin layer of oil as soon as I beat something - I'll put it out!

Nothing, I'll wait

Does the dough knead well on muffins too?

what do you mean by cupcake dough? what is it?

what do you mean by cupcake dough? what is it?

slightly runny and the whisking whisk is already tight
Probably all the same, such dough is made in Boch, not kneading hooks

yes, you can't take it with a hook, it will drain. beaters should do well, I think.

I am with a report on whipping 114 g of butter in a 6-liter bowl, the report is sad, in fact

before switching on:



after switching on:



and this is after adding 100 g of sugar:



sugar and butter gathered in a skirt and did not stick to the bottom

in general, I scooped this butter into a bowl with a spatula and beat it with a hand mixer. The conclusion is this: he cannot knead small amounts of oil, smears and does not lift.

at the same time whips the whites well, I whipped 3 pieces - excellent.

Girls, I'm certainly not special, but butter and sugar may be better in a blender, it is also in this unit

I had to whip the butter into a foam for a butter biscuit. then the components interfere with it in turn (eggs, flour, milk).and in a blender - the knives would overheat and melt.

hmm, I didn't think about that. But what about cocktails - do they also heat up?

I am with a report of whipping 114 g of butter in a 6-liter bowl, the report is sad, in fact
at the same time whips the whites well, I whipped 3 pieces - excellent.

Lisss's, thanks a lot, I'll know.

I have long wanted this particular model, it seems to me that it is in second place in terms of the quality of dough after Electrolux (I mean equipment for ordinary users, not professional)
But I don’t decide that I need it only for the test and no more, for everything else, it seems, all the adaptations are already there.
I thought maybe he would take the oil, with which I don't like to go by hand ...

And another pretty little request - you can take a picture of the bowl without attachments, I just can't imagine what it is in the middle when you take off the attachments to pour, for example, batter.
Why am I so pestering - because I haven’t seen it alive in our stores, if I take it, I’ll order on the Internet

so far, yes, it has shown itself best in kneading and whipping proteins. with butter - oops, although, I remember, my previous 4756 also did not whip butter, I also smeared it - manual work is best ...

take a picture - no problem, I love him very much, so it is a pleasure for me to photograph him, by the way, I also did not find him alive in stores, I drew conclusions from the video.

here without attachments:



there at the bottom such as a groove, and rises to the center. here is a close-up:



and now with a napkin so that the bend is better seen

Lisss's for pictures

Is it problematic to change the nozzles in the slurry of dough, it won't pour into the inner hole for an hour? in the same place, like the skeleton is white, different for the kneader and for the corollas

Anything can happen, I thought the kneading hook, for example, would cope, but it turns out that you need to put whisks

julifera , there is such a thing sticking out of this hole in the middle - all the attachments cling to it.



changing nozzles is not problematic, the dough does not reach the hole. I already had this - then the whisk, then the hook put in the dough. but what interferes more is if you pour the batter from the bowl into the mold, then you also have to clean the central column with a spatula, not only remove the dough from the walls. it is round, it is not very convenient. but the silicone spatula is ok. just extra movements have to be done.

what interferes more is if you pour the batter from the bowl into the mold, then you also have to clean the central column with a spatula, not only remove the dough from the walls. it is round, it is not very convenient. but the silicone spatula is ok. just extra movements have to be done.

This does not bother me at all, as they say - these are trifles, I will get used to it somehow

Everything reached me, the drive and the bowl are made according to the principle of a kneader from the Yumz combine Mriya.

Thanks to you Lisss's, finally decided, the money remains to be done

always please, I'm glad if it cleared up a little, I myself don't like buying a pig in a poke. by the way, it shreds better than 4756, there is practically no undercut waste left. although the nozzle is installed a little strangely - directly on the bed, it is not fixed by anything, but it cuts well, it does not fall, but this nozzle is bought separately, 800 UAH in our Kiev ...

I watched a video about Electrolux ... At first I was delighted, and then ... I don't think that a meat grinder + a juicer + a mixer and so on, that is, ten in one, I need. Of these ten, you probably only need a kneading machine. And even then, when I realized that the harvesters could not put on proofing, I realized that I had saved a lot of money !!!
Although ... if I had a kitchen of 20 meters ...

Eh, who here reminded of the adequacy? I now have a Boshevsky 6th mum with almost all nozzles, but I want an electrolux assistant dying. From my point of view, MUM6 is good for hefty volumes and better interferes than whips. In any case, it is not possible to bring 2 proteins to foam, and the cream is also better obtained with thinner rims (he also has a wire thickness of about 1 mm at the rim).The shape of the bowl is, again, very bandura. True, there is a replaceable one, in which the stirrers are attached directly to the bottom, but usually it is lazy to climb behind it and change it. And mine does not always scrub everything from the walls to cleanliness, sometimes you need to help.
Here is the blender in this kit - the machine is a beast, no complaints, well, except that the "ears" at the lid fell off almost immediately, but it didn't get any worse. The meat grinder is excellent, and the juicer for it is just a miracle, for gazpacho - what the doctor ordered. What else ... Ah, a large mill with stone millstones is not very convenient, you endlessly have to take off and put on this fool and pour the results of grinding into another container, if you need to grind smaller. I do not use a shredder, because the Borner grater comes out faster and less waste.
Maybe someone still bought an assistant and talk about his impressions? (Disadvantages, disadvantages, please! Otherwise, you will have to buy)

Yes, I agree about small volumes - I bought a manual Bosch mixer 450 watts - and I beat small volumes in it. Although I beat the whites in a food processor, then I have to remove the protein foam from the walls. it is necessary immediately at the 4th speed - then it turns out.

and kneads a small amount of dough well - made from 350g, perfectly kneaded. but large volumes, of course, are his native element

I take note of the fourth speed. And that still infuriated me incredibly - always at the bottom remained unbeaten with a quarter of an egg (and I am a greedy person). I probably didn’t have enough patience for a small dough. As soon as I see that everything is smeared on the walls and bottom and does not interfere, it immediately seems easier to finish with handles.

yes, I'm still a greedy person - silicone paddles for people like me invented, the son now swears that there is nothing to lick after her

and a small amount of dough - yes, you have to wait, of course, it kneads longer than a large one, but kneads well, dog

yes, I'm still a greedy person - silicone paddles for people like me invented, the son now swears that there is nothing to lick after her

Oh yeah! The silicone spatula is our main tool, I have two
Today, with patience, I did Pan Extraordinarie from Reinhard, observing the mixing times in the big Boch. Wow! For the first time I saw what a "test on the membrane" is in reality - the dough stretched to absolute transparency. (Although the walls had to be scraped again) I will, I will now use it more often

Deyrdre, you will laugh - I have 4 of them, one huge, two medium ones - harder for rye dough and softer for everything else, and rake out one small of the small measuring glasses and cups

and if you are not very stressed, maybe lay out this bread in a separate temko - I'm interested ...

Yes, Bosch 6, although huge, but kneads well, I am very pleased with it. sorry, I couldn't take a picture of the dough for the pies - well, it's a miracle, how well I kneaded

Deyrdre, you will laugh - I have 4 of them, one huge, two medium ones - harder for rye dough and softer for everything else, and rake out one small of the small measuring glasses and cups

No, I won't laugh, I will envy. Wow, for measuring glasses!

and if you are not very stressed, maybe lay out this bread in a separate temko - I'm interested ...

Um ... I'm not at all tense, but all this is already laid out on the "cooking". Here is the only thing, I could not photograph the moment with the membrane, because when the hands in the test could not hold the mirror fool. If necessary, I can then duplicate the theme on the "bread maker".

Deyrdre, looked, what an interesting! only my sweet does not even eat ordinary table bread, they consider it sweet, but the starter from the oven that's why I bought a combine with kneading dough

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Deyrdre , on our website prohibited provide direct external links to other sites.

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Oops, I am aware of my guilt, measure, degree, depth ... I will not take it anymore.

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