Kneading machines

So I want to decide with your help

Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 11:24 AM

I want to know more about the electric luxury about its longevity or short life

Added Sunday 29 Jan 2017 11:25 am

I'm sorry I have a defective keyboard or something

[any]

As I understood, who will buy what and praise

any, thought correctly. I can't praise Kenwood (which I don't have) if I have Bomann.

Money spent, you can't tell, I was wrong

Let's say I was not mistaken in choosing a kneader. I have Bomann and he is the most suitable for my needs. I have no opportunity to overpay money for the brand.

everyone has all the good things like that in nature simply cannot exist!

They answered their own question

The parameters are different for everyone

[yuba-s]

yes, and in my opinion you will not wait on the forums for an adequate assessment of kitchen machines. As I understood who will buy what, and praises the money spent, you can’t say I was wrong

yuba-s , so I used Clathronic KM 3323, I wrote about it, now I use Kenwood, I am writing about it. And what do you think, everyone has a whole stable of all sorts of different devices, and they only write about one thing, and only with a bad purpose - to mislead you. Who bought what and writes about it.
And I will not repeat what I wrote earlier about Electrolux. Here are the conclusions from foreign responses: Electrolux (AEG) a clone of Kitchenaid Aristan (its attachments fit). Developed in Sweden (where Ankarasrum is), made in Germany.

I've read all 90 pages and everyone has all the good things - there simply cannot be such in nature! The parameters are different for everyone

yuba-s , it means that they chose what they wanted, they bought it and after a week or two and laid out their opinion, everyone is still in the joys of the purchase, and everyone has different requests-expectations. There are branches where only about Klatronic / Boman - there are different ratings.
yuba-s, you still have to make your choice yourself, because only you know your needs (what, how much and how often you will do it with the machine). And what you read on page 90 is information for thought. Good luck to you!

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, thank you, I have not received it yet, well, my son gave me an unexpected gift with a blender Moulinex 876, honestly, I didn't really want it, and the reviews are not so hot, I will have to accept a gift from anyone, write at least something!

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, the forum is organized into sections.

This is a general topic for dough mixers, planetary mixers.

For blenders, here is a section - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=126.0

There is a general topic about different ones, which one to choose, etc.
There are separate topics on the most popular, where only one specific blender or family of blenders from one company is discussed.

yes, and in my opinion you will not wait on the forums for an adequate assessment of kitchen machines. As I understood who will buy what, and praises the money spent, you can’t say I was wrong

Of course they do.
Spent time to choose, money to buy.

But if the selected gadget cannot do some process or even breaks down, no one hides it, everyone swears openly and asks for help.

In fact, the statistics of reviews on the Internet about a company / brand, store or a specific gadget - 95% of dissatisfied people do not hesitate to write wherever possible about their rage, of the satisfied only 10% will find free time and a desire to go to leave their positive feedback.

On the forums, the statistics are somewhat different, because here they also communicate, make friends. Therefore, there are more comments with the desire to share their joy from a successful purchase. If the purchase is recent, then there can be dissatisfaction only with an obvious marriage. And when used only 2-5 times or in tech. a couple of weeks - not everything is revealed yet.

Peter Push, wrote everything correctly

bought and after a week or two and laid out an opinion, still all in the joys of the purchase and the requests-expectations are different for everyone. There are branches where only about Klatronic / Boman - there are different ratings.

Having made a choice on a common thread, people disperse on specific topics, where the owners of a particular gadget discuss it. And there is already an assessment of its performance after a long period of time. That is, more specific information is accumulated.

[Miranda]

Miranda, I have already figured it out, but I did not find Moulinex

[Natalia]

Yes, the cake was kneaded for 25 minutes. without interruption at 2 speeds

This is pleasing, a good indicator, even though it is heating up.

I even wanted to buy from my hands,

So I decided not to take Kesha 336 from my hands. Although they say that the equipment stood idle for a whole year, there is still no guarantee.

on average, it is turned on once a week, two pensioners do not need more. They are happy.

So I need it to knead something on average once a week, the more that the bread maker bakes well. But for some reason, the bread from it did not hurt the taste, and the muffins are great. It seems to me that a good bread dough must necessarily be kneaded on a dough. So, once upon a time, at the dawn of my youth, I was taught at a culinary school. Yes, yes, I am a pastry chef by my first education, so you can laugh for a long time, especially since I worked in this production for only 3 years. But I remember something from my studies. And at home we are all cooks and pastry chefs

do autolysis when kneading the dough.

Is it about yeast dough? Or is it good for cupcakes too?

oh, I don’t know how this one popped up with a bubble, there should be 8 minutes.

Oh, but I didn't understand why this is about?

Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 7:14 PM

And for me they beat it so gorgeous

Natalia, Natasha, this is far from gorgeous. Gorgeous is when, to the peak, that is, he turned over the bowl with whipped egg white with sugar, but nothing falls out of the bowl. My old mixer does this, so I can compare.

No, Squirrels, I understand that, but there were also squirrels and yolks

in a slow cooker, you wrapped a saucepan with parchment when you baked your biscuit or not

I have a bowl with a ceramic coating. But in order to keep it in good condition, I cover the bottom with ordinary parchment (cut out around the bottom) or in the same circle but already cut from a fiberglass rug. Here is the biscuit that was baked on a fiberglass circle (from the Fix Price store) in the photo. I decided to turn this biscuit over and bake the other side too, which I so wanted. But the crust is smoother if you bake it on parchment. I smear the sides of the bowl and the bottom of the rug / parchment with butter.

yes, and in my opinion you will not wait on the forums for an adequate assessment of kitchen machines. As I understood who will buy what, he praises

But no. I am writing that the sleeve is warming up. He also did not turn it off with the OFF button, and then began to turn it off (I wrote about this not in this general topic, but in a specific one about the Boman kneaders. And not only I write about different remarks. Someone does not whisk the whisk, they also write about But sometimes it turns out that you have to write about the same thing in consonant topics, that is, repeat itself. who recently bought or rarely bakes (for example, one person lives and bakes only once a week, right about me).

Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 7:36 PM

I want an electrolux tell me you are not disillusioned yet I ordered but all the same the excitement itself seems to be and not expensive and not cheap is needed for the test

How much does it cost? I saw the price of more than 40,000 rubles, and not everyone can afford it, so they don't take it. And how can I judge and write reviews about a technique that I do not have. Or maybe there is another topic about the electrolux on our forum, you need to look

Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 7:47 PM

No, Squirrels, I understand that, but there were also squirrels and yolks

Yes, it is calming.Although I think that if you increase the time of whipping the egg white with yolk, the result will be better.

So I need it to knead something on average once a week, the more that the bread maker bakes well. Only for some reason, the bread from it did not hurt to taste, and the muffins are great. It seems to me that a good bread dough must necessarily be kneaded on a dough.

Panasonic kneads the dough better than my dough mixer Bomann KM 383 SV, I said this many times and I never tire of repeating it. And in a bread maker, you can knead the dough on the dough, and bake in the oven. It turns out to be a wonderful tasty bread.

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whipping the egg white with the yolk

The protein with the yolk is not whipped until the state is turned over and does not fall out.
But if you raise your head with a whisk, it will take a long time for the remainder to fall from the whisk into the bowl. Until such a state is possible.

And in a bread maker, you can knead the dough on the dough, and bake in the oven. It turns out to be a wonderful tasty bread.

I agree 100%. Only I didn’t manage to bake bread yet. Everything is quick, but the result suffers. For many times I have been thinking about dough, only knowledge on this topic needs to be restored. I want not only to use yeast, but not everything can be bought in the city, but I’m prescribing something

Added Sunday 29 Jan 2017 08:22 PM

It turns out to be a wonderful tasty bread.

Oh, what a delicious bread, but looking at night. I probably haven’t found my recipe yet, I don’t like fluffy and soft bread, as I did it in a mixture with rye flour, this one is better, but I can’t eat it every day. The stomach does not react very well to rye flour. All, we will not flood off topic

Only I have something on the dough and have not been honored to bake bread yet

It couldn't be easier. All the ingredients according to the recipe (except for fat), take half of the yeast, knead in HP for literally 3 minutes, so that everything is combined into a lump. Leave on for 5-7 hours. Then turn on the "dough" mode (add fat), at the end of the program, shape the bread, distance and bake.

[Olga]

The protein with the yolk is not whipped until the state is turned over and does not fall out.

Yes

But if you raise your head with a whisk, it will take a long time for the remainder to fall from the whisk into the bowl. Until such a state is possible.

Yeah, I'll take note

Added Sunday 29 Jan 2017 08:34 PM

It couldn't be easier.

Olgaand the other half of the yeast is not added at all in this case? Is all flour added at once? It's just that we were once taught that the dough is made with a small amount of flour, and only then in the finished dough, after a few hours, add all the remaining flour, so the question is.

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, all the devices in question are kitchen machines, including kneading dough, and not dough mixers in the direct sense. If you only need a high-quality dough mixer, so that it can also be inherited by your grandchildren, this is the original assistant (ankarsrum). I speak as the owner of Brsh professional, Ankarsrum and a bread machine (which perfectly kneads the dough, as oloola1 rightly noted). And we all buy cars according to our needs and praise and abuse them. There is no perfect technique (unfortunately). Each has its own pros and cons.

[Volume]

And we all buy cars to fit our needs

Volume, and for your wallet, which is important.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, I totally agree! +1000

Bosch and Ankarsrum were gifts, but Panasonic bought a bread maker for herself 6 years ago.

the other half of the yeast is not added at all

Not added, all flour is added at once. It may not be called a dough, but the bread is tasty and does not crumble.

[Olga]

but the bread is delicious and does not crumble.

Olga, Ol, I understood, thanks, I must try it somehow. Of course, such bread should be tastier than the one that is instant.

[Mila56]

Mila56, I bake all kinds of bread, both in cotton and dough, if in hb, let's say I take 560g of white flour 100g rye and Voronezh yeast from a 500g pack and put it on 1 program for 3 hours It does not crumble and does not stale and is not white and not black try

I take 560g white flour 100g rye

You should try this ratio of white and rye flour. If I remember correctly, I used to do it by adding more rye flour.
And I also wanted to tell you, since I see that you are new on the forum, because it is known that many rules on the forum do not read, but they are. This is not a reproach at all, she is. But if you want to find something on the forum, and do not remember where, then, for example, hammer your Moulinex blender with numbers into the search bar at the top (it is empty and with a magnifying glass icon). And several links will appear on the screen where you can search for something. True, I scored this Mulinex and there is little interesting ... probably no one has it, and the price is from 6,000 rubles to 9,000 rubles. on different trading platforms. And praise your son for such a gift, but for the future, as if by chance, sometimes consult with him about, for example, which combine is better and why than. Young people are advanced, they will google this topic and at the same time will know what you need to give. If on a blender inadvertently, when it was not yet bought, we consulted, then look ..... And in general, this is a good way to find something here on the forum. And one more addition, for example, such food processors are interesting to me: A Bosch MUM4875EU kitchen machine for 15,990 rubles, but it is only 600 watts. with a guarantee for 2 years and sunk into my soul Kitchen machine Moulinex QA5001B1 for the same money, but already 900 W and with a guarantee of 2 years. Now, if it were not for the Bomann KM 315 CB food processor I bought, or if not considering the Clatronic KM 3632 food processor and others of the same brands, but with a power of 1000 watts or more. and more, that is, if it were not for these Clatronic and Bomann, then I would have bought a Moulinex QA5001B1 kitchen machine for trial and testing (the guarantee is good). At the time when I was choosing a kitchen. the combine for this mulinex was the price higher than now. And if I live alone, then I don't want to spend more money for such a technique. Money is where else to attach. And for large and complete families, there is certainly a reason to buy more expensive and possibly (?) Reliable equipment. After all, eminent brands also break down. There is a guarantee for this and the more the better. Itself stuffed itself with the choice of kitchens. harvester and wrote these reflections. I'm just tired of puzzling with this question and further, her (head) can still be broken for a long time (according to the horoscope itself, cancer, so I have so, uncertainty).

[Mila56]

Mila56, well, I did not even expect that he would buy it for me about the Mulinex harvester they write that there is a lot of plastic pouring in, I look at the weight, to be honest, so that it is heavy now and kittens in China they collect, they also feel better say those that were collected in the USA before, those were indestructible

Posted Monday 30 Jan 2017 10:24 AM

I introduced them at the top, apparently no one buys them either

harvester write that there is a lot of plastic pouring

And there is a guarantee for this. So use it in the tail and mane until the guarantee. The Moulinex QA5001B1 weighs 5.28 kg. and the Bomann KM 315 CB combine weighs 5.7 kg. Yes, of course, a harvester is needed for heavy, thick dough, or rather, the one that is heavier is more reliable. But the Kenwoods also wave their heads when kneading heavy dough. You can watch the video, there are a lot of them on YouTube. And so, nevertheless, the heavier the harvester, the better and if the toad does not strangle, like me, then you can buy more expensive and heavier. Just first you need to think about whether you will knead this heavy dough for noodles, pasta, etc.

[Mila56]

Mila56, I have a hb moulinex with a round loaf, the guarantee was 2 years after 2 years and started slowly one or two

now, after 2 years, one and the other began slowly

So we draw a conclusion. Or one of the more expensive, but more reliable ones to buy ... or equipment at a low price and not so sorry, the money is small, but the warranty period has already worked out, you can buy a new one, and what else remains for us. Therefore, during the warranty period, many equipment is driven into the tail and into the mane in order to have time to pass

[Mila56]

Mila56, you may not invest and then these mules also cost 40 which are more powerful

and then these mules also cost 40 which are more powerful

For such a price there is something else to see, the same electrolux, only what weight it has ...

[Mila56]

Mila56, 10kg almost

Added Monday 30 Jan 2017 11:03 AM

in ukraine, many take them, though they are there 2 times cheaper than ours

10kg almost

Wow, wow, gotta look ... Electrolux EKM 4200 food processor, this one weighs about 10 kg. , but this is with additional accessories, i.e. with a second bowl complete + with a meat grinder + attachment-shredder with four internal nozzles. But the weight of the combine (that is, the working part itself, which has all the main load)) without attachments will be much less ... The package bundle is certainly good.

Electrolux EKM 4200 with a large bowl and lid weighs 8295 g.

Electrolux EKM 4200 with a large bowl and lid weighs 8295 g.

Is it without attachments?

[Mila56]

Mila56, yes, no attachments. Bowl and lid only.

yes, no attachments. Bowl and lid only.

Gorgeous In the company store it costs 34,990 rubles, and in the M. Video store it costs 41,990 rubles.

The weight of one Electrolux EKM 4200 mixer is 7520 g. At such prices, I would look towards KitchenAid or Kenwood.

The weight of one Electrolux EKM 4200 mixer is 7520 g.

Oh, what a good weight. Only my toad wouldn't let me spend that kind of money

[Mila56]

Mila56and what is the net weight of your mixer?

what is the net weight of your mixer?

Weighed it. Weight with bowl 4.8 kg. and weight without bowl 4.3 kg. (without attachments), this is on a floor scale. Weighed the bowl on a kitchen scale, its weight is 480 g. So the weight without the bowl is 4.3 kg. it is right. but I also bought it at retail for 12,800 rubles. This is far from 40,000 rubles, but for me one is more than enough to get acquainted with such a technique. And then we'll see, everything flows, everything changes ...

[Ipatiya]

Ipatiya, Ipatiya, we have 20th kenwood 65 thousand 10 --- 56 thousand

Posted Monday, 30 Jan 2017 12:14 PM

there are no branded stores 20x at all

Posted Monday, 30 Jan 2017 12:14 PM

in my opinion they were removed from production

And we have a Kenwood KM287 (OWKM287002) for 900 watts. Now in M. Video costs 24,990 rubles. He has a good package bundle, a 2-year warranty. But the weight indicates 8 kg. , this is with all the attachments, and there is a meat grinder and ..... Kenwood KHH326WH (OW20010001) is also 24,990 rubles, it is 1000 W., but the weight of something is much lower ..

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, Kenwood Cooking Chef KM094 in the brand store now costs 54,990 rubles. They have a promotion from January 28 to 31. I would buy something "to grow". Always useful.

I live far from this store and the online store has no promotions

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, prices are valid for all regions of Russia

Kenwood Cooking Chef KM094

... In addition, delivery until the end of January is free. Payment in cash upon receipt or by card on the site. I bought Electrolux EKM 4200 for a promotion. There was a good discount on it. But when buying a serious good car, you need to focus on the manufacturer. The main thing for him is production or one of many. For Kenwood, this is the main thing and it is quite natural that they will monitor quality. After all, it is from the sale of these machines that they receive the main profit. For Electrolux, mixers are one of the directions. Plus, it's a KitchenAid replica. This, of course, is not pure Chinese, but not a Mercedes among similar cars. It's never cheap and angry.

[Ipatiya]

Ipatiya, I watched 20 tyh there they are probably already outdated, but in this one there are too many electronics, I somehow took a swing fridge for myself, and after 5 years a microcircuit burned out in it, I have not been able to repair it for almost a year due to the fact that this is not a hitachi can find these parts. Since then, I don't want to take those devices with too many microcircuits! This is my bitter experience

Since then, I don't want to take those devices with too many microcircuits! This is my bitter experience

You can hardly avoid this. Almost all devices are crammed with electronics. And then even one sad experience does not say anything. By the way, in Electrolux there is also some kind of microcircuit inside, albeit mechanical control.

[Ipatiya]

IpatiyaI think my head will crack soon

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, I have an old Bosch refrigerator, probably already twenty years. The circuit burned twice. The first time a spare part was found, and last year there were no spare parts, so the master simply soldered something there and works. Maybe you will be lucky to find one if there are no spare parts.

Hello, please help me decide on the choice of a mixer for kneading dough for dumplings and pies, as well as dough for baking (biscuits). I choose between Zelmer ZFP1100 and Clatronic KM 3632. I found reviews on Clatronic, but I did not find anything on Zelmer. Please advise which of these two mixers suits my needs best.

I personally kneaded dumplings and pies in a bread maker, there is the most technologically advanced not only kneading, but also proofing, until after 11 years of operation the bucket also broke down and the bread maker copes well with the cake dough. It remains only to make biscuit and shortbread with your hands. And a bread maker used to cost less than a kneader. But I'm not a very experienced user.
Can you please tell me if I understand correctly that any dough mixer, including kittenade and Kenwood, with whipping with a whisk as small as one egg or two or three proteins, will not cope with all their other splendor? That is, it just won't pick it up, right?

[Alina]

Alina, I beat 1 egg with kenwood, everything is fine, but I had to twist the whisk.