Kneading machines

It sounds a little strange about "deciding" on Bomann: I know several of his users - everyone is happy. Otherwise, I wouldn't have mentioned him here.
About the comparison of the sizes of Bomann / Klatronic: also seems to me incorrect.
There are several models of them, different in materials, power, functions and sizes. Therefore, if you write that one of them is "hog", then it is advisable to indicate which model is in question.
At the same time, it looks very funny when you write that Klatronic is small, and Bomann is a hog. These are the same models, twin brothers, made on the same conveyor. It's just that different labels are glued to them for sale in different countries, and then they still sell everything in a heap. Sometimes even prices are set differently and they declare that the quality is different. Do not believe - from the same barrel.
I have long and carefully chose the harvester for myself. As a result, I took Kesha 080. But if I only needed a household dough mixer without additional features, I would have taken a metal Bomann / Klatronic.

[Annutka]

Annutka Bosch MaxxiMUM XL20C is good, but the price bites painfully.

Girls! Here's a look at this option - First FA-5259 dough mixer (manufacturer: First Austria):
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there is a video at the bottom. What do you think?

It sounds a little strange about "deciding" on Bomann: I know several of his users - everyone is happy. Otherwise, I wouldn't have mentioned him here.
About comparing the sizes of Bomann / Klatronic: also seems to me incorrect.
There are several models of them, different in materials, power, functions and sizes. Therefore, if you write that one of them is "hog", then it is advisable to indicate which model is in question.
At the same time, it looks very funny when you write that Klatronic is small, and Bomann is a hog. These are the same models, twin brothers, made on the same conveyor. It's just that different labels are glued to them for sale in different countries, and then they still sell everything in a heap. Sometimes even prices are set differently and the quality is different. Do not believe - from the same barrel.
I have long and carefully chose the harvester for myself. As a result, I took Kesha 080. But if I only needed a household dough mixer without additional features, I would have taken a metal Bomann / Klatronic.

That's right, in fact I need it for ham and cream, and then only to free my hands from the hand mixer for a 9-month-old lyalka. Otherwise, it is the same Klatronic, as bulky as it can be a dough mixer with a 5-liter bowl.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olya, I describe my feelings. I don't know which models I saw. It was at the bazaar. where the Turks sell equipment of dubious quality. It is likely that this does not apply to kneaders.
I am completely unlucky for equipment that I bought cheaply at the bazaar, for second hand. Some will buy a supported TV or frigo- and use them for another 10 years, fortune in these cases turns away from me and only on personal feelings I approach Clathronic-Bomann with some caution.
Recently, a dishwasher TV flew in the kitchen and many advise to buy not new, but ... I hesitate, having repeated sad experience
But, it is not excluded that I will once again go over the topic, compare all the pros and cons and buy the same Klatronic.
ciecle, Ir, yeah .. Anya has a very cool, but very expensive harvester, I want to keep within 200 euros.
But. if you need both budget and quality, already stop at Klatronic-Boman or Klarstein, there are even options for heated cars.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, aaaaa dishwasher is awful !!! I had it, I immediately ordered a new one, so while I was waiting, I thought I would die.
If the budget is 200, take Bosch like mine, no doubt, it mixes everything. What you don't need from the add-ons, put in the locker
Well, or take the simplest one for 60. In general, you will be happy and enjoyable, and it takes up very little space.
All the cheap ones are yelling, watch the video, the Bosch sounds the best, even better than all the expensive Kenwood types.

[Lerele]

Lerele, Yeah ... uzhzhzhas .. yesterday the master came, so he asked so much for the repair that it makes no sense to repair it. For several days I wash everything myself, this is a disaster! How we used to get along
Yes, everyone yells ... Bosch's sound is the best, that's for sure!

Good day to all! I am a mother of two small children, time, as you know, is catastrophically short, I like to bake sourdough bread, pinscher, zebra, pancakes, pancakes, I am looking for a kneader as an assistant. Within a week, I mastered all the branches of this forum about dough mixers, looked for reviews on the Internet, but did not find anywhere about Electrolux ekm 4000 or Electrolux ekm 4400. The price for them is not transcendental, up to 20,000 rubles, I like the design, the body and bowl are made of stainless steel, the rim is twisted lower and higher, the husband agrees to buy if the quality is good, but what quality is it? Maybe someone of you heard something somewhere, knows? I don't want Kenwoods in this price range from plastic, boshes don't like the design, and I don't need a bunch of nozzles. Please help, kind people!

The price for them is not exorbitant, up to 20,000 rubles,

Yes, it seems to be good in terms of characteristics for the price

Try typing in the search - there was a description, they were on sale that year, and the girls on the forum managed to catch it.

Okay, I'll look now. Thanks for the tip

[Girls!]

Girls! Here's a look at this option - First FA-5259 dough mixer (manufacturer: First Austria):
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Hello. I have such a kneader. I bought it about a year ago. I did not find any reviews about it, but after watching the video I decided to buy it.
I am quite satisfied with his work. Both yeast and dumplings dough are normally kneaded in it.

I bought this kneader - First FA-5259. I arrived today. We will try it tomorrow.
Then I'll tell you about my impressions.

I am sharing my impressions on the Electrolux EKM4000 mixer, which I purchased for a share. Url was guided by these reviews = Then another owner of a similar mixer appeared on our forum with recall... She also gave a link to the Germans testing Kenwood, KitchenAid and AEG ULTRAMIX KM 4000 mixers, an analogue of Electrolux 🔗... I rarely used my mixer. Kneading minced meat, making dough for muffins and other light dough. I coped well with everything. I decided to make a focaccia with garlic and dill. I put the products in the specified order strictly according to the recipe, turned on the mixer and went on business. When I approached, I was unpleasantly surprised. The dough turned out to be cool. The "head" of the mixer was shaking, although the base stood firm and did not move. The speed was at "1", that is, the minimum. I have my first planetary mixer and I don't know yet what is normal and what is not. Perhaps this behavior is typical for all mixers of this type when kneading heavy dough. Or maybe this is some kind of defect in my particular copy. It seems to me that the minimum speed of my mixer is quite high. Since I remember that on my old Boch of the MUM series, the 1st speed was lower and it did not strain like the Electrolux. For me, the issue with the mixer is not acute, because I took note of this method of kneading heavy dumplings and noodle dough... But in my particular case Electrolux EKM4000 is not a universal mixer. Those who want to buy it should weigh the pros and cons. But maybe I'm wrong, so the opinions of experienced users of planetary mixers will be helpful.

[Eugeniya1979]

Eugeniya1979 I recalled a video where Electrolux behaved like mine during mixing, that is, his head is movable. Even KitchenAid has it. I probably shouldn't have panicked.



Electrolux mixers are overgrown with attachments, which pleases. Previously, I saw only a meat grinder and a vegetable cutter. Dough sheeters and noodle cutters have been added.

Girl, in the SHOP Kesha 010 is for sale. Used, but at a normal price.
Who has a small family, take a look.

An interesting attachment for the Krups combine.

de Electrolux during mixing behaved like mine, that is, his head is movable. Even KitchenAid has it. I probably shouldn't have panicked.

The Kenwoods also have a movable head, when kneading a tough dough, who has more, who has less ...

In my opinion, in this thread it was already discussed that all kneaders, with a head like Kitchen, Kesha and the like, have a head shaking and there is a risk of breaking in this place. Although they have a good safety margin, of course.

In my personal opinion, Kitchen does not mix well the bread dough with a hook. He winds it on his heel with a piece of trepidation. HP does it better.

[Natasha]

Natasha, I totally agree with you!
I don't knead tough dough in kitschen. Yeast too I trust hn

It's good that I bought Kesha and not Kitchen.
But I went and suffered according to Kitchen)
And how Kesha 80 kneads the dough - girls !!!! It's a fairy tale !!! But that's only 80)
I always stand and admire, as if by hand he crumples the dough and folds, crumples and folds.
Even the same Ankarsruch cannot do that, he rolls his own roller along the wall, but that's not it.

Kesha rules 80/90 !!

I really like Krups, he doesn't move his head at all!

It seems to me that it is easier for the bread maker to knead the dough due to the location of the spatula. As much as it takes, it kneads as much. In spite of its massiveness, the kneader hook is subjected to greater loads. The walls of the rectangular bucket of HP also help, against which the dough beats.

Even the same Ankarsruch cannot do that, he rolls his own roller along the wall, but that's not it.

I disagree. We must look not at the process, but at the end result. And Ankarsrum does not roll on the walls, it kneads around the roller.

I really like Krups, he doesn't move his head at all!

Judging by this video, the head is very moving.
I liked the kitchen very much! Everything seems to be for work, but it looks so aesthetically pleasing.



And here is a nozzle that rotates in different directions. Cool! For yeast dough, that's it.



By the way, in the Moulinex La Fournee bread maker, the spatula rotates in 2 planes.

[Ipatiya]

Ipatiya,

Definitely. It is impossible to fix it to death when working with a hook. She staggers and will stagger.

And the above comparison (video) is generally incorrect. We would then compare the work of the hooks for both models. I don't think there would be a crazy difference. And this is how the demonstration of the operation of the nozzle turns out. But a nozzle is just a nozzle. What nozzle Kitchen will release tomorrow is generally unknown. Now they have released a bowl with temperature maintenance up to 105 degrees. In general, no one has an analogue yet. In addition, you cannot knead a tough dough with this nozzle on Krups, it must be quite plastic. Either HP or hook.

I disagree. We must look not at the process, but at the end result. And Ankarsrum does not roll on the walls, it kneads around the roller.

Well, sorry, I didn't want to offend your Ankustika))
The result is excellent for my cache.

That is not a matter of grievances, but a correct comparison. To compare, you need to take the same dough, knead in two compared units and compare the result. And so, purely visually, it turns out very subjective. IMHO.

And the above comparison (video) is generally incorrect. We would then compare the hook performance of both models. I don't think there would be a crazy difference.

Actually, the video cited as an example of the operation of the nozzle, and not a comparison of kneaders. Since Krups and KitchenAid are structurally similar. That would have been such a nozzle for the rest of the kneaders. But it seems to me that Krups patented the find and is unlikely to allow anyone to use their invention.

Yes, by the way, I noticed that Electrolux and Kitchen are brothers)
Probably kitschen sold his design to Electrolux.
Yes, Krups has a cool nozzle.

Krups has a different build than Kitchen and Kenwood.
Kitchen and Kesha have the top, the head of the head, and Krups' mind the whole leg.
And he twitches all over, and it's safer.
Kitchen and Kesha's head twitches.
The kitchen's head flies off from overload and flies to the side and can cause harm. And Kesha's drive belt breaks and that's it.

Damn, the groats are great! Even the scales are built-in!

And here is a nozzle that rotates in different directions. Cool! For yeast dough, that's it.

Kesha has a similar attachment, but it is not intended for the test.

I wonder what the price of Krups is, something I didn't find on sale with us.

We don't have it. It is sold in Germany.

Sold in the refrigerator, the last price is 26 thousand, not available now.

Krups has a different build than Kitchen and Kenwood.
Kitchen and Kesha have a top, temgolov, and Krups' mind is a whole leg.
And he twitches all over, and it's safer.

Even in Europe, Krups mixers of the original design are almost no longer on sale. 🔗... Was it removed from production? A simplified version is on sale, similar to Kenwood and Kitchen.

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Disagree

A regiment of dissenters arrived ...

Ankarsrum does not roll on the walls, it kneads around the roller.

Vooot, and even how it kneads!

Cool kneader!

[Ipatiya]

Ipatiya, well, this is already a professional mixer))
He is huge)

[Masha]

Masha, I'm not serious. But good as an example! There is no unmixed dough left. At least in the video. Although the Krups have the coolest mixer attachment ever.

Dear old-timers, members of the forum from Moscow, I appeal to you with a request for help. Recently I reread all the threads on the forum about dough mixers, wrote on pages 53-54, tormented Ipatiya and Peperuda with questions. And, thanks to them, I stopped at one, but there is a problem with the purchase - it is sold only in one store in Moscow and for cash. And I live in Simferopol, the store does not deliver here. I have a request, if someone has honesty, free time and a desire to help, then write to me in a personal, I will explain what and how, I will be very grateful!

But good as an example!

There I looked further on a Viennese baguette. Even the machine rolls thin baguettes

Dear old-timers, members of the forum from Moscow, I appeal to you with a request for help. Recently I reread all the threads on the forum about dough mixers, wrote on pages 53-54, tormented Ipatiya and Peperuda with questions. And, thanks to them, I stopped at one, but there is a problem with the purchase - it is sold only in one store in Moscow and for cash. And I live in Simferopol, the store does not deliver here. I have a request, if someone has honesty, free time and a desire to help, then write to me in a personal, I will explain what and how, I will be very grateful!

Girls-Muscovites! Help me please!!! Respond! Well, we always help each other with Wishlist.
I myself would have sent what I wanted, but from our Europe with the shipment there will be a golden kneader, it's heavy and huge, like a tank.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, Vika, I would be glad to help, but you have to drag him somewhere, and I don't have a car. Previously, there was Autotrading nearby, I could send, but now they are closed.

[Sneg6]

Sneg6, Ol, thanks! Well then, don't, can someone help with the car.
Girls who can help, write to LS Zhene- Eugeniya1979.

unfortunately, I can’t help either, I don’t have a car now and it will not be soon (((

[Eugeniya1979]

Eugeniya1979, if you want Electrolux ekm 4000, then you can buy it on computeruniverse.

Thanks for the advice, I can buy this complete set 4000 from St. Petersburg at a nice price, the seller can even send it here, to Crimea. Only I really want model 4200 with attachments, the price is now sweet in Mediamarkt, there is not a lot of money, there are small children, so I would like to buy better and inexpensively. It's expensive to buy from Europe, I've already been offered. Maybe your husbands, girls, can help?

Girls, this Mixer is in the Mediamarket on Vernadka.
Who lives nearby?
It's too far for me to go ((

girls, I'm also horseless, unfortunately