Lyi
Quote: Sens

Lyithat super-duper freezer is straight?
I am telling you in detail so that you can decide whether you need a freezer ice maker or a fairly ordinary one with a bowl cooled in the freezer (-28 *) for 24 hours.
Made an ice cream from Anastasia
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=142934.0
I took the products from the refrigerator, whipped everything on Kenwood 020, then connected everything and poured it into the ice cream bowl. According to the instructions, it is recommended that the mixture obtained be cooled to + 5 + 8 *, I did not do this.
The ice maker provides 3 ranges of cooling time 10-30-40-50 minutes.
During operation, the display constantly displays the decreasing time and temperature of the compressor. In just a few minutes (less than 5 minutes), the compressor temperature dropped to -28 *, but the mass temperature was 0 * after 10 minutes. In general, soft ice cream, such as in a bowl of regular ice cream taken from the freezer, is obtained after 30 minutes.
I don't turn it on again, I'm afraid to break the plastic stirrer, although it does not look flimsy, I compare it to the Kenwood ice cream maker.
And then you must immediately turn on for 40 or 50 minutes, because after stopping, it does not turn. By the way, you can stop the ice cream maker at any time.
You can leave it to freeze in an ice cream maker, since the temperature there is -28 *, but I put the ice cream in cups and in a regular freezer for a few minutes.
Now everyone can decide for himself what is more convenient for him to lose, the place in the freezer occupied by the bowl or 2-3 thousand rubles in addition to buy a compressor ice maker.
As for the ice maker itself, I like it, it is made thoroughly, German quality is German QUALITY, not to compare with Chinese. I don’t know how other freezer ice makers work, I am happy with this ice maker.
Here's my ice cream.

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Pinky
Girls, someone from Ukraine bought themselves an ice cream maker like Lyi shows? Or at least met on sale in Ukraine? I want such an ice cream maker, but I absolutely do not know how (I am afraid, I will not learn) to buy on foreign sites - this is beyond my understanding
Lyi
Quote: Pinky

Girls, someone from Ukraine bought themselves an ice cream maker like Lyi shows? Or at least met on sale in Ukraine? I want such an ice cream maker, but I absolutely do not know how (I am afraid, I will not learn) to buy on foreign sites - this is beyond my understanding
Pinky, I don’t know how in Ukraine, but in Russia this ice maker costs 15 thousand rubles, and on this site in Germany its price is 5.5 thousand rubles, that is, 3 times cheaper + 1 thousand rubles shipping, and my shipment cost less, since I also ordered various bells and whistles in this store.
So still try to master the purchase on this site, especially since almost everything there is in Russian.
Yes, I also forgot to add in the previous post that I liked the ice cream in the freezer more to its taste, maybe there is a difference when it whips and gradually freezes than when the edges immediately grab from the frozen bowl. But perhaps it seems to me so.
Pinky
Lyi Yes, I have already written a request to this store, if they answer that they are sending to Ukraine, I will probably order. There is also the question of payment, there is the PaiPal system, and I have not yet encountered this, therefore I am looking for it in my Ukraine.
And how much ice cream is obtained by weight at full load?
Vitalinka
Pinky, do you want just such an ice cream maker? It's just that they sell Dex in Ukraine, similar to this

Ice cream maker: reviews, instructions, purchase and operation issues
Sens

Louis, is it not very clear what kind of mixer you are talking about? and why he might fail. quality?
Quote: Lyi


I don't turn it on again, I'm afraid to break the plastic stirrer, although it does not look flimsy, I compare it to the Kenwood ice cream maker.
Lyi
Quote: Pinky

Lyi Yes, I have already written a request to this store, if they answer that they are sending to Ukraine, I will probably order. There is also the question of payment, there is the PaiPal system, and I have not yet encountered this, therefore I am looking for it in my Ukraine.
And how much ice cream is obtained by weight at full load?
Pinky, they send goods everywhere without exception.
About payment. I paid for the first parcel with the Corn card. It can be obtained in Euroset, there is even in any small provincial town. Corn is very convenient because it works with any currency at the most favorable rate.
This store in Germany works with PayPel and the Master Card, in particular Kukuruza.
Then, if you want, connect the same Kukuruz card to the PayPel system.
Pinky
No, I just want GERMAN production, Dax ice cream maker was in our store, but it's all China. I have another option, also a German ice cream maker, and you can take it through Kiev, but it's a little expensive, about four thousand, and this one with delivery will cost about two and a half. Although I am confused by the need to send to Kiev in case of repair, we do not have such service centers. So I'm still in thought. And I want ice cream! Moreover, here I got the hang of making Liege waffles with pearl sugar, and my daughter-in-law says that they are tastiest with ice cream. So now you need to buy an ice cream maker

Lyi And this corn needs to be processed in a bank or where? Until now, I got along just fine with one card, but now my head is swelling, where to draw up this "vegetable"
Lyi
Quote: Sens

Louis, is it not very clear what kind of mixer you are talking about? and why he might fail. quality?
Sens! Inside this 1.5 liter metal bucket, where the ice cream mass is poured, there is a mixer that turns and whips all these ingredients during the cooling process.
The principle is the same as in conventional ice creams, only here it does not need to be kept in the freezer.
I think that when I get used to this ice cream maker, I will be less anxious about it, but now I am satisfied with half an hour to make ice cream, and then take out the mixer for a few minutes in the freezer or for another + 10 minutes and hold the ice cream in the same bucket.
Lyi
Quote: Pinky


Lyi And this corn needs to be processed in a bank or where? Until now, I got along just fine with one card, but now my head is swelling, where to draw up this "vegetable"
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Pinky, take your passport and n-th amount of money go to Euroset (mobile phones) and say that you need to open a Kukuruza card and put it on it, give the money, This amount, also say which mobile phone number you need to connect the message to the movement of funds on this card.
Immediately ask them to show you the check digits of your card, these are the last 4 digits on the back.
That's all, now the main thing is not to lose it, since it practically works for bearer.
Sens
Louis, now more or less clear.
and it stops there by itself and further cools?
Pinky
Lyi Thanks for the information. Now the main thing is to find this Euroset in my city (somehow I haven’t met yet)
Lyi
Quote: Sens

Louis, now more or less clear.
and it stops there by itself and further cools?
Sens! It stops after the amount of time you set yourself. I wrote that the time can be set at 10 or 30 or 40 or 50 minutes.
Although you can stop it at any time by pressing the STOP button.
You can stop and turn off the mixer, but do not turn off the compressor, this is a separate button, then it will continue to freeze.
Quote: Pinky

Lyi Thanks for the information. Now the main thing is to find this Euroset in my city (somehow I haven’t met yet)
Good luck !!!
Lucha
Pinky, Lyi, you are in different states. Perhaps there is no Euroset at all in Ukraine.
Pinky, you can use any master card or visa.
Pinky
Lucha Thanks, I’ll decide on the ice cream maker, so then I’ll start figuring out the payment.It will be necessary to go to the bank, consult on the cards.
Girls, thank you tremendously for the tips Well, where and who else can you get an ambulance for any issue, if not on our forum! I love you all!
Lyi
Quote: Lucha

Pinky, Lyi, you are in different states. Perhaps there is no Euroset at all in Ukraine.
Pinky, you can use any master card or visa.
Lucha, The name EUROset speaks for itself. This is mobile telephony throughout Europe (or even further?).
You can pay with any Master-card, except that the translation into foreign currency will go at a greater cost. At the moment, Kukuruza is the most profitable card precisely due to the conversion of money into different currencies.
Lyi
Quote: Pinky

Lucha It will be necessary to go to the bank, consult on the cards.
Pinky!Each bank will pull to itself and assure that they are the most profitable.
Type in a search engine (Yandex or Google or others) the words "corn card" and read it yourself.
In Kukuruz, the conversion into currency is at the rate of the Central Bank (National Bank) + 2% at the time of payment, but this 2% is returned if the rate has not increased at the time of withdrawal of money by the recipient. Actually checked.
All other banks charge at their inflated rate, and they can also take the amount for conversion.
Just finished the last of the ice cream, delicious.
Good luck to you.
Sens
Quote: Lyi

In Kukuruz, the conversion into currency is at the rate of the Central Bank (National Bank) + 2% at the time of payment, but this 2% is returned if the rate has not increased at the time of withdrawal of money by the recipient.
and in Svyaznoy not so?
tomorrow I'll buy an ice cream maker)))
Lyi
Quote: Sens

and in Svyaznoy not so?
tomorrow I'll buy an ice cream maker)))
I bought a Kukuruza card in Euroset. Is it for sale in Svyaznoy? I do not know. They say yes.
I would be glad if you like the ice cream maker too.
Sens
Quote: Lyi

I bought a Kukuruza card in Euroset. Is it for sale in Svyaznoy? I do not know. They say yes.
I would be glad if you like the ice cream maker too.
yes her ... in the connected card of the connected
and the percentages there are most likely the same ...

Louis, would you like to try making mulberry ice cream?
Lyi
Quote: Sens

yes her ... in the connected card of the connected
and the percentages there are most likely the same ...

Louis, would you like to try making mulberry ice cream?
This store works with PayPel, Master Card and Visa cards.
At the same time, Sberbank issues a Master Card credit card and Euroset issues Kukuruza, but it also belongs to Master Card.
What card does the Messenger give out?
I didn't make mulberry ice cream, I don't have it. But with strawberries
I didn't really like it with raspberries, even if the bones are completely removed, but with the bones.
I did it with bananas, too, but rather bland.
But everywhere I use market (not shop) sour cream, also diluted with natural market milk from a cow, then a real ice cream is obtained.
I take the proportions 2: 1, that is, 2 parts of sour cream, and best of all cream, which has not yet frozen in sour cream and 1 part of milk. But if the cream has already frozen to a state that can be cut with a knife, then the taste does not deteriorate + all other components. See recipes.
Sens
Quote: Lyi


What card does the Messenger give out?
in Svyaznoy Master card. for shopping it is suitable, checked.
just, in terms of conversion percentage, is it different from Corn or not?

Lyi
Quote: Sens

in Svyaznoy Master card. for shopping it is suitable, checked.
just, in terms of conversion percentage, does it differ from Corn or not?
There are a lot of Master-Card cards, for example
MasterCard Maestro
MasterCard Standard
MasterCard Platinum
MasterСard World
MasterCard Gold
MasterCard Electronic
MasterCard Cirrus
MasterCard Virtual
MasterCard Unembossed
MasterCard World Black Edition
+ many more subsections of titles.
You need to know the name of this Master-card issued in Svyaznoy, and then request data on this particular card on the Internet.
Something like this.
Lyi
Sens, now I made a request on Yandex to Master Card Connector.
I didn't read much. Read here 🔗
But I didn't like right away that
- 600 rubles a year commission for servicing the main unnamed card (it was free);

- 300 rubles commission for issuing a personalized card (it was free);

- 50 rubles monthly for SMS-informing (it was free);

- 100 rubles commission for withdrawing cash less than 1000 rubles (there was no limit);

- With an average monthly balance for a billing month of less than 10,000 rubles. interest on the balance is not charged (there was no limit);

- Interbank transfers will be subject to a 0.3% commission, but at least 25 rubles
In Kukuruz, all this is done for free.
Can you hand over this card and get another?
Sens
Quote: Lyi


In Kukuruz, all this is done for free.
Can you hand over this card and get another?
really ...
Oca
I see on ozone Travola Ice Cream Maker LX-1207 ice cream maker RUB 1,490 -20% 1192 00 rub
🔗
Zima
Small volume is a minus, price is a plus!
Sens
Quote: Oca

I see on ozone Travola Ice Cream Maker LX-1207 ice cream maker RUB 1,490 -20% 1192 00 rub
🔗
and what is it good for? technologically?
Lyi
Quote: Sens

and what is it good for? technologically?
In technology, of course, I'm a layman, my education is humane, but as a consumer and an ice cream lover who has 2 regular ice cream makers (Moulinex and Kenwood) and a freezer ice maker, I'll try to answer.
So, the usual ice cream. The most fundamental difference is the preliminary holding of the ice cream bowl in the freezer, as a rule, for 24 hours, then the ice cream is prepared for about the same 30 minutes, but the second portion in the same bowl turns out worse, and if it is very hot, it does not work at all. That is, in the summer, this bowl, which does not have a small volume, settles in the freezer forever. Moreover, your freezer should have a temperature of -18 *, at a lower temperature the refrigerant in the bowl may not freeze.
Freezer ice cream maker. Cook as many servings as you like every 30 minutes. And for some reason it seemed to me that there is a freezer in the ice maker, the ice cream is tastier. Perhaps this is self-hypnosis.
The mechanism of operation of both types of ice makers is the same: a bowl with double walls, between which a refrigerant is poured into which ice cream ingredients are poured, a mixer is lowered there, which mixes the contents as the products cool, this is in an ordinary ice maker. In the freezing room, an ordinary metal bucket, which is installed inside the refrigerator, compressor, with the same stirrer inside.
Only in the first case, the ingredients are poured into a very cold bowl, which heats up when in the room, but at the same time the food gradually freezes, and in the freezer, everything is poured into a bowl (bucket) of normal temperature, but the compressor turns on, as in an ordinary refrigerator, freezer, which cools the temperature of the product gradually and keeps it as long as you like.
Stafa
Quote: Lyi

And in your freezer the temperature should be -28*, at a lower temperature, the refrigerant in the bowl may not freeze.
Once again, this error is in the temperature data. Should be not higher than -18С feel the difference. And the bowl is not so huge, you can put fruit in it in the freezer, I have cranberries and strawberries in it and very well. And a lot of ice cream has a detrimental effect on the figure, and the freezer with this option will take up a lot of space and stand lonely on the sidelines. But to each his own.
fronya40
I fully support the Light, both in temperature and in the size of the bowl. I often hear that the bowl takes up a lot of space, this did not bother me personally, in the winter there are even fruits there, and in the summer I just freed up the freezer, the season begins to fill it again.
Lyi
Quote: Stafa

But to each his own.
So it was written on the Buchenwald gate.
sazalexter
Regarding the "German quality" UNIT And the brand is assembled at the same factory, guess where ...

Ice cream maker: reviews, instructions, purchase and operation issues

in principle, this does not affect anything, just curious
Elena Bo
That's for sure. All German quality is produced in one plant with a Chinese
Sens
Quote: sazalexter

Regarding the "German quality" UNIT And the brand is assembled at the same factory, guess where ...

Ice cream maker: reviews, instructions, purchase and operation issues

in principle, this does not affect anything, just curious

How do these two non-German brands relate to the quality of goods on the shelves of German stores?
Quote: Elena Bo

That's for sure. All German quality is produced in one plant with a Chinese
and nothing is certain!
it has been said many times that the quality is on different whales. factories are different !!!!!
Elena Bo
Yes, they are produced at one plant. Appearance is one.
Oca
IMHO, one shift works during the day, and they take good plastic and paint more expensive, and at night, so that the conveyor does not stand idle, a night shift comes, they take recyclable materials, paint anyhow and rivet on the same equipment.
Lyi
Quote: sazalexter

Regarding the "German quality" of UNIT AND the brand is assembled in one factory, guess where ...

in principle, this does not affect anything, just curious
Actually, my ice cream maker is not UNIT a UNOLD. Does it change anything?
On the box, all the inscriptions are in German and those languages ​​in the countries that they supply the goods, nowhere is the inscription Made in Chine (China), although, as a rule, they write it.
In general, it remains only to ask a question on the store's website.
I can only say that it was done very soundly, the ice cream maker is very easy to operate.
Elena Bo
No one doubts that the ice cream maker is very good. We only doubt that it is produced in Germany.
zvezda
And now I still like to chill juices in the freezer ..... and the children also have frozen fruit ice !!
Tatyana
Quote: misty

Tarrington House - This ice cream maker is only sold on the Metro.
I also want, but you can in more detail. What is the metro and the price. Thank you
Lagri
This store:
And there is an ice cream maker in the region of 6 thousand rubles. (They wrote 5590 rubles above).
Irina.A
I tried my ice cream maker, which I ordered on the Internet, and I am happy with the result (for the first time). Simple, 0.5 L volume Ice Cream Maker LX-1207. thanks for the information, thanks to the forum I decided on such a purchase
Aygul
Irina. A, and share your impressions?
Irina.A
Quote: Aygul

Irina. A, and share your impressions?
I liked it, of course it is not intended for a large volume, but it is quite possible to pamper loved ones.
Tatyana
I also bought the same one, but I'm not in the mood to do something like myself. What if it doesn't work out
Irina.A
Do not be afraid, the trouble is the beginning, try a simple recipe first, I was also afraid, but nothing happened. Only I did not put the bowl in the freezer in the refrigerator, but in the freezer, it freezes there better, and if in the refrigerator, then hold it longer
Tatyana
Quote: Irina. A

Only I did not put the bowl in the freezer in the refrigerator, but in the freezer, it freezes there better, and if in the refrigerator, then hold it longer
did not understand, explain to me stupid
Countryman
Quote: Tatyan-ka

did not understand, explain to me stupid

As soon as when shaking the bowl, no liquid is felt inside it, the unit is ready for use.
Before that, no.
The freezer is just preferable and nothing more. All the same, both here and there for the used refrigerant (brine) to solidify, the temperature must be below -18. If this temperature is not reached, change the refrigerator. Or, don't use an ice cream maker with it.

Explanation. Primary refrigerant solidification is a very energy intensive operation. Accordingly, in the reverse process - its melting - when ice cream is cooled, a very large amount of heat is taken from the cooled mass for this very melting. To melt a kilogram of ice in the body of the bowl, you need to spend enough heat to cool the liquid in the bowl from 80 to 0 degrees. This is if it does not take into account its freezing.
In short - when the principle of operation for this very ice cream maker was looked for back in the 19th century, the engineeraboutwere in place.
Lyalya Toy
Quote: Tatyan-ka

did not understand, explain to me stupid
We are talking about the freezer in the fridge and the freezer.
I have both. The bowl freezes in the freezer
better and does not have time to defrost before the end of the ice cream preparation.

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