alemandrikin
Can the uniform be repaired or purchased a new one?
lenagur
I have the same problem. You need to contact the service center, they will give out a new bucket, and the old one will not be repaired. I brought to the point that in my LG and the kneader jammed, and he also ripped off the engine. So, as soon as the kneader starts spinning tightly, you need to change the bucket. I'm not carrying it for repairs. I found out the price and now I am thinking: whether to repair, or to buy Panasonic. There seems to be no such problem with the kneader in it.
Kashka
Although almost 1.5 years have passed since the last messages, but suddenly you are still following the topic.
ALEX, lenagur, what did you do with the bucket? Replaced? I thought it was just my problem. First, the mixer began to jam. The husband disassembled and cleaned. But not for long. When I got stuck again, I decided to twist my hand. Black water flowed out (because I tried to soften it under hot water at first, I thought that the dough was not washed well), and suddenly everything spun very easily. As I understand now, I must have ripped something off there. Now it spins, but lets the liquid pass a little.
So it's not being repaired? How much did it cost then? Can I use such a bucket or will I ruin the bread maker?
lenagur
I still took it for repair. they left the old bucket, replaced the kneader assembly and gave out a belt for the motor (it broke for me.) The husband put the belt himself. Everything cost about 1200 rubles.
Kashka
Thanks for the answer. Yes, you will wonder whether to rent ... Add money and buy a new, modern one. Attracts the second option
katnik
Panasonic'a also remarkably wedges the shaft in the bucket. The service center says that this happens when jam is cooked in a bread maker, and not immediately - it cooked and broke, or it may break after a few months (or it may not break). This I mean that Panasonic is also "mortal". With buckets like this: the bucket itself is an accessory, you can order it at Panasonic Plaza for 1403 rubles. (I bought for this money, my husband was told the price was almost 2 times lower (why ???, it became cheaper ?!), but the block of the fastening shaft, which jams, is a spare part. It is only in the service center, under warranty - free , and so -
block price + work. All together, almost half the price of the stove. Everything breaks down, alas and ah, even Panasonic ...
Lenusya
I have the impression that some oil began to leak from under the kneader after kneading. The service center said that there was no oil in the kneader block - there was only dry lubricant. Do you think it can soften and flow into shape or not?
Now I'm afraid to bake bread: suddenly, instead of butter, it will be with a machine
Kashka
Maybe my black water is dry lubricant + water? The last times it does not miss anything, although the shaft turns very easily during kneading and with a different sound. I'm afraid, but I bake.
Lenusya
Quote: Kashka

First, the mixer began to jam. The husband disassembled and cleaned. But not for long. When I got stuck again, I decided to twist my hand. Black water flowed out (because I tried to soften it under hot water at first, I thought that the dough was not washed well), and suddenly everything spun very easily. As I understand now, I must have ripped something off there. Now it spins, but lets the liquid pass a little.
So it's not being repaired? How much did it cost then? Can I use such a bucket or will I ruin the bread maker?

So your black water flowed into the bucket?
I'll try to make a small bun today.
Kashka
Lenusya, not so much in the bucket, but directly from under the bucket, where the whole rotating mechanism is. The entire table was filled with ink. And the screw turned very easily, you can push with one finger and it will make a turn.So it still turns easily, but the sound of HP when mixing has changed.
Lenusya
The main thing is that it does not flow into shape
And I have the impression that at the end of the second batch, the oil appears in a bucket, now I will go to see what is happening
Lenusya
Thank god everything is fine
For two days I did not take her eyes off her, watching the process.
Kashka
Quote: Lenusya

Thank god everything is fine

So I still bake and watch all the time, as it kneads. And I dream about Panasonic 255
Aglo
Apparently, everything is settled for you. The old dirt washed out and flowed out, the oil seal pressed against the axle and the leaks stopped.
Panasonic 255 is also not without troubles.
Kashka
I don’t even know if it’s settled. Occasionally it happens that while I am putting food, and the first thing that goes into the bucket is liquid, it flows out a little onto the table. But this is not always the case.
As for the 255 model - my very old, there is not even a pause. And at 255 there is a gluten-free baking program, I need it. And what troubles with Panasonic are, if not a secret?
Lenusya
Kashka, or maybe when you wash the mold, immerse the lower part in water? and that's why water gets there ?, in my instructions it is written that you need to wash without completely immersing in water (especially the dough mixer mechanism), that is, only inside
Kashka
No, I don't. I also have it written so. She washes well, I do it immediately after baking.
Aglo
Maybe put the flour first, and the liquid last. This is the order of bookmarks in Panasonic. I read somewhere that the result does not depend on the order of the bookmark.
Gluten free mode at Panasonic: 15 min. kneading, 1 hour rise, 45 min. bakery products. Does your stove have a similar mode? This is me to ensure that before buying a new stove to interrupt with gluten-free baked goods.
And what kind of troubles with Panasonic are ...
Look at the "Operation" - "Panasonic" forum
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...&Itemid=99&board=64.0
IvSort
It is possible to repair, but not physical damage to the bucket itself: such as a dent, scratch.
I had a problem when the bucket shaft stopped spinning. It turns out that when the stuffing box drips, the dough enters the bearing and it cakes. I bought a bearing and an oil seal in the store and easily but expensively replaced it myself. After that, I decided to keep both the bearing and the oil seal in stock, but decided to pick up an analogue, and so: only the original oil seal fits, and the bearing can be found in any specialized store and is much cheaper than the original one.
Tane4ka
very topical Temka, I have a problem with the bearing of the "ski"
respected Iv can tell me where in Moscow you can buy?
Rem
Entrust this task to your men, or take the bearing and go to the market or shop where drills and bearings are sold. They will pick it up there, they can replace it for money
Asshole
Can you congratulate me, I got into your ranks, the grease in the oil seal began to crunch on the campaign, the stove was probably 3 months toko, to the service immediately? or wait for it to jam? = /
Rem
And try to take out the bucket, pour warm water and turn the shaft a little longer with your hand. If the bearing is intact, wash the dirt, lubricate it a little. Especially if the node is disassembled. In delonghi riveted. Do you have bolts?
Asshole
No, we also have everything on rivets, then more or less the twist then starts to creak strongly, I will probably carry a bucket under the guarantee, as the twist barely starts. The crooks are my opinion, the load is weak and it starts to leak or what is there, but the water is not dripping from under the bucket so far = D
Rem
Listen and take a closer look, maybe the belt creaks (transfers the rotation of the engine shaft to the blade axis). It's not that bad. Does it creak even with a low weight of bread?
Asshole
No, the mechanism for attaching the scapula creaks, but it doesn't seem to creak very much, it’s he, because I’m constantly twisting it, it doesn’t give me rest = / uzhos!
Katyushka
And I have the same trouble! At first, I just stopped turning the stove, I shook everything out of the bucket and began to wash it from the bottom side, a lot of dirt (black mixture) leaked out and now the bucket flows, periodically creaks, but it happens that it works fine. The impression is that water leaks under the scapula and flour gets in and all this is baked there, and then dries up - the result is that the scapula does not spin.After a major flush - everything turns perfectly, then it creaks
sazalexter
Katyushka Look at here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9080.0 and there was also a repair and restoration of the oil seal on the site, but from which HP I don't remember
This is if you do not want to contact the service.
Katyushka
Thanks for the reference, I looked. True, there is a different stove, but the problem is the same. Let's think the stove is a little over a year old.
Slavik
Extraneous sounds appeared during operation. The shaft began to rotate tightly. Replaced the oil seal and cleaned the bearing. He removed the retaining ring. The stuffing box, bearing and mixer shaft were knocked out into the middle of the bucket with light knocks. Collected in reverse order. The cost of the oil seal is 2-3 dollars, depending on the greed of the seller, the bearing is about 1 dollar. The bearing in the market is several times cheaper than in the service one. I bought the oil seal in the service. 3-4 months have passed since the repair. Everything works fine
KsunyNov
Quote: Slavik

Extraneous sounds appeared during operation. The shaft began to rotate tightly. Replaced the oil seal and cleaned the bearing. He removed the retaining ring. The stuffing box, bearing and mixer shaft were knocked out into the middle of the bucket with light knocks. Collected in reverse order. The cost of the oil seal is $ 2-3, depending on the greed of the seller, the bearing is about $ 1. The bearing in the market is several times cheaper than in the service one. I bought the oil seal in the service. 3-4 months have passed since the repair. Everything works fine
the same disgust, and our husband went to the service, they said the oil seal is not for sale, ordered a bucket of 1,500 rubles
and where did you buy the oil seal?
Katyushka
And I didn't change anything, just if I put flour on the timer first, I fall asleep, and if I bake it right away, then I first pour butter, then flour, etc. And everything turns quietly and peacefully, without squeaks and sighs, although probably this is also not right
Slavik
We sold it in the service center. Looked here 🔗 but then shipping + price was more expensive. I don't remember exactly how long. Maybe in Russia there are Internet shops with similar goods? Although I had to change the oil seal due to my stupidity. Just damaged it when retrieving it. Father on his (same) bucket disassembled, cleaned the bearing and put it back together without replacing the oil seal.

Katyushka, my blade shaft began to spin very tightly. With his hands he could hardly scroll. I was afraid not of squeaks, but of the fact that the motor would burn out from the load.
Katyushka
So at one fine moment I stopped twisting at all, I flooded everything, fell asleep, put it on - and it hums but does not move !!! Well, I was at home and did not set the timer, I had a bucket under the tap upside down and washed everything, since then the liquids have been leaking.
Slavik
Quote: Katyushka

I had a bucket under the tap upside down and washed everything, since then liquids have been leaking.
Well, I think they started to leak earlier, you just didn't pay attention. If I were you, I would periodically check with my hand how easily the shaft turns, otherwise you will notice it again only when the motor cannot turn.
Katyushka
Now, before each use, I scroll the spatula, and periodically collect the leaked fat and flour (or grease, I don't know exactly what it is) with a napkin from below.
natixs
Please tell me the address of the service center in St. Petersburg, where you can buy a bucket for the LG HB-151 JE, otherwise the stove has been idle for more than a year, something like a bearing broke down there and the oil seal flew ..
sazalexter
natixsHere are the addresses of the service centers 🔗
natixs
sazalexter thanks !!!!!!!!
arctic
Well, our toiler fell ill ...
at first strange sounds appeared when mixing
And today they turned it on, you can hear that the engine is spinning, but the blade is not.
At first they thought that they had forgotten to put the spatula on, and then it turned out that nothing was spinning there .. They unrolled it, and then the belt fell off. We put it in its place, but still it does not work as it should .. squeaks and there is not enough power to move the blade
Can anyone come across a similar one?
sazalexter
arctic
Thank you!
but still, I have a problem not with the bucket itself, but that the belt fell off ..
Everything revolves in the bucket without squeaks and strains.

It's just that the topic about the belt was also discussed, so I ask that someone else had something like that.

The belt, by the way, was put in place. We put the dough to test. Everything is spinning, but an additional sound appeared, as if something was sticking, peeling off or slapping on something ...
Rem
A friend had similar symptoms - the engine shifted a little, the belt skewed and flew off. If the noise is skewed, it may creak.
LikaV
We had the same thing: first, some clicks appeared when kneading the dough, then the belt generally fell off. But the stove was under warranty, they gave it to the store, and those to the service center. Repaired, now everything is fine - even the clicks are gone, at least for now ...
natixs
Hurray !!!!!!!!!!!!! sazalexter thank you, thanks to you, my son is bringing a bucket from Novgorod! Repair of the bucket, in the sense of finally new, cost 800 rubles, without a kneader.
hands are itching already ....))))))))))))))))
sazalexter
natixs Congratulations! This is a very nice price for a new bucket!
sazalexter
Quote: Vyachelav

THIS will help you, but not for long. The fact is that you pour sugar and salt without dissolving, but you must first dissolve it in water and let the precipitate settle, then carefully pour it into a bucket and add flour and yeast. When you put undissolved sugar and salt into the bucket, during mixing, the salt and sugar begin to scratch the bucket like sandpaper, damaging the Teflon coating and the gland that covers the bearing. When water gets into the bearing, it begins to rust, an extraneous noise appears (grinding), begins to wedge, then the rust damages the second solo and bucket
starts to leak, and then completely wedges the shaft. By the way, the manufacturer of the LG bread maker forgot to indicate in the instructions that sugar and salt must first be dissolved, but in Molinex it was indicated in the instructions there.
You can just change the bookmark of products as in Panasonic and ALL!
Sashun
The manufacturer installs the bucket collar incorrectly (designer error) close to the bearing without a perforated spacer ring (or punching the side surface of the cuff through the bucket hub windows or installing the cuff with a gap of 1-2 mm to the bearing).

This, when the cuff (oil seal) leaks, does not allow the leaked liquid to flow into the tank cavity through the gap between the collar and the bearing and causes bearing failure (sticking of the balls) with subsequent jamming of the bucket shaft and failure of the drive belt.

In addition, the cavity of the plastic cuff should be filled with REFRACTORY grease, which was simply not found in my new LG.

Therefore, before loading the bucket, you need to put your hand into the bucket, be sure to make sure that the stirrer spindle rotates by hand completely freely with minimal friction between the collar and the spindle.

REFERENCE
1. Small bucket cuff. Shaft inner diameter 8mm, cuff outer diameter 22mm, height 7mm;
2. Bearing 608Z or 608-2Z. Inner diameter 8mm, outer diameter 22mm, height 7mm.
natixs


REFERENCE
1. Small bucket cuff. Shaft inner diameter 8mm, cuff outer diameter 22mm, height 7mm;
2. Bearing 608Z or 608-2Z. Inner diameter 8mm, outer diameter 22mm, height 7mm.

Valuable in-fa, boom can know when and come in handy.))) Thank you !!!!!!!
natixs
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Maybe someone will come in handy. Accidentally found.))))

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