Zepter vacuum sealers

Please comment on the Zepter Vacsy Bag, does this option have any obvious disadvantages or advantages? What is the approximate service life of this device? I am thinking about getting a used one at the price of a new CASO 500. Is there any practical sense in this? Or does the more modern CASO 500 "make" the "old man" Zepter Vacsy Bag in all respects and qualities?

I have had such a device in a gray version for about 20 years (or maybe more, I don't remember). The pump is excellent, it works from the network, so there is no need to talk about its resource, it is long-playing and works for me without any problems.

I use the pump only for vacuum packaging in jars, dishes, under lids.

The vacuum unit is idle for one reason: you need a packaging film of your own, but it costs a lot of money, it’s not worth it, throw money down the drain after using the film. And you need to purchase the film directly from the Zepter.

The vacuum unit is idle for one reason: you need a packaging film of your own, but it costs a lot of money, it’s not worth it, throw money down the drain after using the film. And you need to purchase the film directly from the Zepter.

what a shock !!! that's for sure? how did Zepter achieve this? due to what constructive limitation does their vacuum unit not pack bags from other manufacturers? Have you tested it in practice? doesn't really pack?

need a packing film

Korean-made film is suitable, at our forum there was like a consultant and through it they bought film, and then just ordered from the store, film of good quality of different sizes. my packer has also been working constantly for 15 years, only "wet" products must be carefully packed, but I bought when we didn't have a choice of packers at all, now Zepter produces devices with the ability to vacuum liquids, but the price is simply draconian.

Korean-made film is suitable, at our forum there was like a consultant and through it they bought film, and then just ordered from the store, film of good quality of different sizes.

can you name the film manufacturer? where to find her? sounds a little strange of course, since it is not clear what is wrong with the other film? the wrong density, the wrong grooved print on the inner surface, the wrong size? If a film from another manufacturer is "slipped" into Zepter, then for what reason and what specific action will he not be able to correctly perform with it?

for what reason and what specific action he will not be able to correctly perform with her?

a prerequisite for the film must have a corrugated side and good density, smooth does not evacuate, the device simply does not "see" the film. even the native film should be inserted correctly into the device: somehow it was necessary to vacuum some trifle and I cut my own package into pieces, the zepter was sealed, but since I placed the film with the striped side across the air, I did not pump out the air. look at the forum, our craftsmen know how to evacuate with a tube and a rag and somehow. I have not tried it myself, in which store I bought the film I lost it, I can't say, while there is still a significant supply of such a film - I'm not looking.

a prerequisite for the film must have a corrugated side and good density, smooth does not evacuate, the device simply does not "see" the film.even the native film should be inserted correctly into the device: somehow it was necessary to vacuum up some trifle and I cut my own package into pieces, the zepter was sealed, but since I placed the film with the striped side across the air, I did not pump out the air. look at the forum, our craftsmen know how to evacuate with a tube and a rag and somehow. I have not tried it myself, in which store I bought the film I lost it, I can't say, while there is still a significant supply of such a film - I'm not looking.

All tubeless vacuumizers have such conditions for the presence of the corrugated side. not just Zepter. but not only the Koreans release the corrugated side, there are a lot of them and the Chinese, that on ali, that on Ozone, Wildberys, etc.
So what remains unclear, is Zepter still something special and does it need a really specific film? Or is it the same film as all other tubeless vacuum equipment?
Regarding smooth bags, everything is simpler - there is no layer of air inside the bag, which is created by the corrugated surface, therefore the evacuator cannot pump out of a smooth bag, but this is the case for many models, and not only for Zepter.
Could it be that Zepter's marketers are fooling around? Or do you really need special packages?
Zepter does not have a built-in knife to cut bags from a roll?

[Tatyana]

a prerequisite for the film must have a corrugated side and good density, smooth does not evacuate

Tatyana I wrote everything correctly. If you do not believe our words, evaluate the quality and density of the film by the Zepter and other manufacturers of vacuum sealers. You need to touch the film yourself - and it will become clear what we want to tell you in unison

Today I can say that there is no need to chase the zepter. It is better to spend money on another manufacturer who has a loyal attitude to the requirements of consumables, and the device will serve for many years. And not to lie somewhere farther away in the closet, just because it is a "zepter".

There is enough information on vacuum equipment on the forum, use the search

Tatiana wrote everything correctly. If you do not believe our words, evaluate the quality and density of the Zepter film and other manufacturers of vacuum sealers. You need to touch the film yourself - and it will become clear what we want to tell you in unison

I wrote about the corrugated surface above - this is also the case for other tubeless vacuumizers, but bags with a corrugated surface are widely represented on the market, and they are not only Korean.
about density - perhaps you are right, but I would like to understand if this is not a delusion? have you tried using cheaper Chinese corrugated bags in practice? or, as the marketers of Zepter said that only native packages are needed, so do you believe them since then?

Or do you really need special packages?

We are marking time in the same place YES, REALLY NEEDS SPECIAL PACKAGES !!!! And the very ones sold by the Zepter company are a marketing ploy: once you bought a device, and all your life you will go to them for packages. Moreover, with expensive packages, since no one else produces such packages, and you have nowhere to go but to buy - in order to be able to use the device.

We are marking time in the same place YES, REALLY NEEDS SPECIAL PACKAGES !!!!

we are marking time, because there is no answer to the question - what is their feature, corrugated just the sea on the market of different manufacturers. increased density is possible, but then you need to understand - what is the mechanism, what will happen if you "slip" a bag of lower density to Zepter.
You have intrigued with your statement, people are wondering, because they do not know the true reason. Can the thermal varnish be applied to the Zepter bags?

I don’t know if this is true. But technically it is possible. For example, using a film with a layer of thermal varnish. There is no such kind of welding, rather it can be called thermal bonding. And temperatures for this are needed fundamentally lower than for welding.
You've all seen these packages - ice cream, candy bars, etc.

this is a marketing ploy

it is clear that it is marketing, but is it implemented technically, that the device really does not work with other packages? Or organizationally, that sales consultants lie to naive users about the need for special special packages?

somehow it was necessary to vacuum some trifle and I cut my own bag into pieces, the zepter was sealed, but since I placed the film with the striped side across the air, I did not pump out the air.

Have you tried the usual corrugated film?

A normal film just has stripes obliquely, no matter how you place them, all one will work.

It seems that you came to the forum to troll us We have already explained "why" one hundred and fifty times and again "for fish money" I don't play like that anymore

This is how the film of Zepter bags looks like: smooth on one side, corrugated on the other, with pimples, and very dense.



A lot of photo films and the price can be found in the internet upon request

For sim, take a bow

in practice we tried to use cheaper Chinese corrugated bags

on Ali, I ordered a film from several sellers for a test for my zepter and it is dense and like the strips do not differ in any way, but it is not evacuated, I bought a new packer for Ali at a very good price last year, and now he takes everything both smooth and corrugated bags, and thin and thick, and dry and wet. although also "without dancing with tambourines" is not complete.

It seems that you came to the forum to troll us We have already explained "why" one hundred and fifty times and again "for fish money" I don't play like that anymore

unfortunately this is not the case, there has not yet been an explanation of why Zepter does not work with other packages.
visually, packages are like packages, they are now sold by a lot of sellers from many manufacturers.
I give an example. Perhaps the stereotypes about the uniqueness of Zepter packages have remained from ancient times?

on Ali, I ordered a film from several sellers for a test for my zepter and it is dense and like the strips do not differ in any way, but it is not evacuated, I bought a new packer for Ali at a very good price last year, and now he takes everything both smooth and corrugated bags, and thin and thick, and dry and wet. although also "without dancing with tambourines" is not complete.

I beg you to clarify - what does the "non-evacuation" process look like? does the suction not even start? or is the pump pumping, making noise, but the air does not leave the bags? or the air is pumped out, but the problem is at the stage of sealing the bag?
Share the model of the alish option? judging by the fact that he knows how to smooth packages, does he have a snorkel? a metal element similar to a rectangular tube, which is inserted into the bag and then automatically removed from the bag before sealing?

the pump pumps, makes noise, but air does not leave the bags

a metal element similar to a rectangular tube, which is inserted into the bag and then automatically removed from the bag before sealing

Or the more modern CASO 500 "makes" the "old man" Zepter Vacsy Bag

Both devices are available.
There is no point in promoting Zepter's reliability.
Zepter has lower performance (it will pump longer in time). Also Zepter is "sharpened" for its containers. And finding / making an adapter for containers from other companies is problematic.
The CASO 500 has more bells and whistles. Vacuum level adjustment, food moisture selection, double seam, marinator ...
To work with containers from different companies, you need a Gochu hose. And for Zepter containers I also use vacuum bottle caps as an adapter.

need a packing film

Any "corrugated" film is suitable.
"Smooth" bags are also evacuated (like any other packer) with small "dances with tambourines"