Mandraik Ludmila
I realized that I have an Endver, a multislicer, for a simple electric grater, it works the same while you press the button, it's not convenient for me. True, he is generally stupid himself.
mamusi
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
it works while you press the button, I'm not comfortable
Well, then it's not yours, Lyudochka.
Mandraik Ludmila
Apparently, now, on New Year's, my son bought the simplest Phillips with a cube cutter, on Galina's tip, but I just can't bring it to the village. You won't be lucky on yourself, but it is difficult to persuade your husband to go to the city by car, it seems that I will persuade, so that happens and everything is postponed
velli
OgneLo, MarinaWhat kind of chopper is in the video? She looked and was not inspired, the whole shredder falls into the bowl, you need to get it out of it, transfer it to another container. In Leben, everything that is shredded goes straight to the salad bowl. It's comfortable! And the graters in Leben do not need to be changed, just turn the disc over to the other side and that's it! ... Whoever has such a shredder, of course, likes him, not having the Leben-baby at hand and not knowing how he is at work. To each his own!




mamusi, Margarita, Totally agree with you! I love my Filya, but his work is in large volumes during the period of harvesting and canning for the winter. Shred cabbage on it for pickling and carrots to it. Beets in thin strips for freezing for borscht. I chop it, put it in bags and put it in the freezer. This is where Fili's work ends and he goes to his permanent residence, a loggia. All the work on shredding, grating, grinding is done by the Leben babies. I like to grind tomatoes with bell peppers on it in a bowl for sauces for meat and fish dishes, for barbecue and cutlets onions. Cabbage for cabbage soup and borscht. Yesterday I chopped apples for filling into pies, it's much faster and more convenient than using a knife on a board.
Zeamays
Oh, I will support the flashmob,)))))
If you look at the pictures, then Leben seems to be no less than Filipok 7605.
This photo Sheala -LEVEN
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This is PHILIPS HR7605
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Svetta
Sveta, Leben is smaller, it can be seen. Philips has a larger size due to the protruding handle with a motor. Eh, they don't sell Leben here, I would buy it.
OgneLo
Quote: velli
What's the shredder in the video?
added - Philips HR7605 food processor
Quote: velli
She looked and was not inspired, the whole shredder falls into the bowl, you need to get it out of it, transfer it to another container. In Leben, everything that is shredded goes straight to the salad bowl. It's comfortable!
for this I, like many others, have a Philips HR1388 multi-cutter
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Quote: velli
Whoever has such a shredder, of course, likes him, not having the Leben-baby at hand and not knowing how he is at work.
Philips HR7605 has slightly more possibilities than Leben 269-006, including it can be supplemented with a "fries" disc, a julienne shredder insert, a shredder insert of a different thickness and a smaller grater insert (larger insert -filips grater, unfortunately, stopped producing). The motor power (350 and 150 W) and the bowl volume (2.1 and 0.3—0.35 liters) of the Philips HR7605 are also significantly higher than that of the Leben 269-006.
As a consequence of its lower power, the Leben 269-006 is not designed to crush ice. Philips HR7605 - grinds. Likewise with mayonnaise.
But, for those who need "just a couple of carrots" - Leben 269-006 is sufficient.
Quote: svetta
Eh, they don't sell Leben
perhaps your combine of this design is sold under a different brand ...
Biryusa
Quote: svetta
Eh, they don't sell Leben here, I would buy it.
And there are none too? Liben's twin, Aresa AR-1704
Choosing a small grating combine
And the plastic won't stain from colored vegetables.
mamusi
OgneLo, Marina, right. Our choice depends on a lot. Who has a tiny kitchenette.Or a young family just starting out, in a dorm, and so on, then the Philips 7605 is a great solution.
Replaces many units (+ mayonnaise, ice, as you say). But it also costs more, and significantly.
But who has (like me) other blenders, including for ice picking, and an immersion leg for mayonnaise, and Phillips 1388, coupled with Redmond with a cube cutter (which I take out once every 2-3 years)))) that Leben is good. Simple and tasteful!
And most importantly - it's cheap!
It's just that I don't need to repeat the graters that are on the Phillips 1388. So I would have preferred the Philips 7605, of course!

And most importantly, the price is different.
(I'm just summarizing this, putting things in order in my thoughts!
And maybe some reasoning will come in handy)))
OgneLo
Quote: mamusi
Who has a tiny kitchenette
we, in a communal apartment, have practically no kitchen as such. "For everything": a 40cm cabinet near the stove, because there is a dishwasher on a 60cm cabinet (MUM4655 and Philips used to live there).
Quote: mamusi
who has (like me) and others
also chooses what is more convenient for him. That's why I bought the 1388 multi-cutter (with the MUM4655), because I really like the 7605 already available then, and the multi-cutter complements it very well + they have interchangeable inserts (I have both equipped to the maximum).
Quote: mamusi
Redmond with a cube cutter (which I take out once every 2-3 years
the Philips HR1669 mnu with all additional grates is used regularly (cubes and a leg). As a shredder, I almost never use it. I do a little test 7605, a lot - MUM4655.
Quote: mamusi
Leben is good. Simple and tasteful!
And most importantly - it's cheap!
Yes. And functional enough.
Duhka li
I have filipok 7605 and 1388, I like both. In 1388 there is a julienne grater and a thin shredder, which in 7605 I really lacked for complete happiness. And just here in the topic (thanks a lot to the author of the idea!) I read that they can be applied in 7605. For some reason, she herself did not think of it. Now I am doubly happy. The 7605 stands on the table for small quantities "for a salad", it is very compact due to the fact that everything is removed inside the bowl. And 1388 gets it when you need to tweak more. I am usually too lazy to peel and cut the onion and carrot for the soup every time, so I will sit down and chop a lot once, and in bags in the freezer, enough for a month. That's why just 1388 is indispensable.
Girls, and where are the additional graters for 7605 to look, on the Philips website or somewhere else? He wants to buy his own.
mamusi
Quote: OgneLo
That's why I bought a 1388 multi-cutter (with MUM4655), because I really like the 7605 already available then, and the multi-cutter complements it very well + they have interchangeable inserts
So I, too, always thought about it - "is it interesting interchangeably or not!)))
It would be great!"

I even wanted to take disks from 1388 with me and go with them to the Search store, where I saw Filka 7605.
But it did not grow together, but I wanted such a combine, so that in addition to graters, there were knives in the bowl.
... And now I see and hear from you "with my own eyes" that yes (!) - they interchangeable... But they also repeat each other!
I don’t know, I haven’t decided yet .... to regret or not that I never bought it, this 7605.
I take Leben.
I think I'm doing the right thing, it is in my situations and the number of eaters in my family.
And there - life will show!
Py Sy: on Filka 7605, I wouldn't have gathered financially right now, in any way. I can afford Leben.
Duhka li
Quote: mamusi


... And now I see and hear from you "with my own eyes" that yes (!) - they interchangeable... But they also repeat each other!
The only thing is that the 1388 fries disc does not fit the 7605, it has a different mount. But I'm not sure that it is necessary, too little of this "fries" will fit into the bowl ...
k @ wka
Not so long ago I saw a video about using the 7605, everything is detailed and very interesting.
But, unfortunately, there was not enough time to watch to the end.
Girls, maybe someone pokes a nose, I would like to know its capabilities in more detail.
I have it for 3-4 years practically idle. I bought it for a summer residence, but in winter he is at home. Bored
Mirabel
and would have bought the same Leben. although I have both Filas and Moulinex with cubes. Well, this is the class! tiddly and mnongofunsionalnaya so! and the price is generally super!
I will look for something like that, but I will be glad for the owners!
Quote: mamusi
I take Leben
and you're doing the right thing!
OgneLo
Quote: Duhka li
And where are the additional graters for 7605 to see, on the Philips website or somewhere else?
I bought in the Orbis-shop, including "on order". Look in IM selling spare parts for Philips combine harvesters or search by article numbers
Quote: OgneLo
Philips insert articles

Philips Food Processor Julienne Insert 420303554631 (2.8mm straw)
Small grater insert for Philips food processor 420306561570 (potato pancakes)
Philips Food Processor Grater Insert 420306562310 (Coarse Grater)
Philips Food Processor Grater Insert 420306561560 (medium grater 2mm)
Philips Food Processor Knife 420306561550 (fine grater 1mm)
Philips Food Processor Grater Insert 420306561530 (Fine Shredder 1.2m)
Philips Food Processor Grater Insert 420306561540 (Coarse Shredder 2.4mm)

Quote: Duhka li
French fries disc
The Philips HR2912 disk attachment is likely to work. I had 7605 on the first one (I tried it on and bought it in Auchan, then there were separate discs sold and 7605 were on sale)
Quote: k @ wka
who pokes
see under the spoiler in I am looking for a small grating combine # 374
Quote: mamusi
to regret or not that I never bought it, this 7605.
I take Leben.
no need to regret. Moreover, if Leben 269-006 is currently sufficient for your cooking volumes.
And then ... "There will be a day, there will be food" © (parable of Rabbi Nachman)
Niarma
I took additional graters at AVITO, they often sell harvesters for parts there. It's cheaper than custom
fffuntic
7605 I did not like, because it irritated the bandura from above to poke into the grooves, here I agree with Taia... It is powerful enough and you can do a lot with it. But when there is a lot, it is annoying to pull the shredder out of the bowl back and forth and drag a little bit back and forth from above. And for two carrots it is dreary to wash. If I chose 1388 and 7605, then I would choose 1388.
Yes, I agree, the advantage of the 7605 is that there are a lot of discs you can get for it and it has a chopping knife, but that's where it ends for me.
If you really find fault, then I still like shredders for rubbing, albeit in a bowl - and this is already a minus and it is worse to collect, boshes, brownies and the like, where you can adjust the speed to a very small and very sharp grater. Yes, they are more expensive, yes, they are more difficult to assemble. There is no ideal.
For some reason, I did not see the little thing to satisfy me with the rub of boiled vegetables.
Because boiled vegetables are best rubbed at a low speed, and for 7605 and 1388 this speed is too high, and in assembly and harvesting they are also difficult, if for one or two carrots.

for raw, one or two carrots are the simplest second in assembly and care, weak, not sharp, you need to press on the vegetable,
I had a Moulinex grater with round drum graters. Maybe Leven is the same? Yes, it is very important to collect without effort and then wash / dry almost nothing.


Crown
Quote: fffuntic
I had a Moulinex grater with round drum graters
Got rid of?
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
because it was annoying to poke the bandura into the grooves from above
for me, everything is simple and "smartly": I put the lid into the grooves of the cup neck and turned it counterclockwise until it clicked, put the motor heel in the groove of the bowl handle, pressed the side buttons on the motor and lowered the motor onto the axle. Longer to describe. Remove: everything too, in reverse order (pressed the side buttons on the motor and removed the motor from the axle, removed the motor heel from the groove in the cup handle and took out the motor, turned the cover clockwise and removed). And I like about it that the motor is on top of the bowl, not under the bottom.
If you need to shred a lot, then shredding shredding into a dummy container is optimal. Although pouring out of the cup is a matter of a few seconds. And what are you doing there intensively washing ... I don't even know ... I poured water with a drop of detergent into the bowl, turned it on for a couple of seconds and rinse it (even with your hands, even in the dishwasher). Cup, lid, grater, grater holder and axle. Motor - wipe with a slightly damp cloth.
fffuntic
Marina, yes you are not lazy)))) What grooves, what detergent for a couple of carrots? Here, in a cartoon with my eyes closed, in a second I inserted a small spare part and rubbed it right into the plate. I rinsed it off, put it to dry in a corner. Not .. I should wipe it off with a towel, but LEEEE.
Now, if the graters were sharper in this mulch and with a larger choice, the power with speed control is better - I would not cheat on it with anyone.
And so .. weak, stupid, unfinished.But for one raw carrot - the most that for me from all the research. Leben also seems to me unpretentious in assembly and wash a little.

As for the 7605, this wet bowl needs to be rinsed well and wiped for a long time or takes up a lot of space on drying. As for the grooves, without looking, you still need to adapt well, and so look and get used to this landing. Of course I'm LAZY. I'm dreary. In 1388, I was dreary of changing inserts. And also wipe or dry LOT when rinsing.
Therefore, for one, two carrots do not roll to ME. If we are going to muzzle, then at least for a basin, or something
In the presence of such units, I will do the minimum on a grater. So wash with sweat, dry and wipe less.

Girls, I don't want to scold the filichiks. And 7605 and 1388 are quite at the level, if not for one or two carrots. I oppose them precisely when it is small and lazy. And when I used it a lot and was happy. But when you need little, I don't like it.




Galya, but no. I left just one or two carrots. Gave-take. Gave-take. I had a difficult relationship with her
I got rid of the filek, because I cheated on it with a bosh, the assembly and cleaning is also not easy, but the speed is regulated there and the graters are sharper. I have a lot of Bosch, for one or two carrots - mulka. But you can't rub the onion with a mulka. No way. And that's all it will fall into tatters. Therefore, it is possible that the leven is steeper.
Crown
Quote: fffuntic
for one or two carrots - mulka.
Our person!
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
what detergent
this, if the dough, butter ... and so, immediately - in the dishwasher for rinsing. I have 7605 for one or two or three carrots: rubbed, rinsed, removed the dried one. I don't rub anything with my hands. There is a technique for this, as well as for washing (it will also dry there). And to assemble and disassemble neither 7605, nor 1388, nor 1669, nor bosh4, I see no problems - everything is easy and fast, on the machine. True, even initially, I had no problems with assembly and disassembly, although I read how someone was tormented by assembling and disassembling the 1669 cube cutter.
By the way, a long time ago, we had Mulka Ovation (the very first). I don't like it. And it broke like this: the bowl burst and leaked during the preparation of the batter.
Niarma
Quote: fffuntic
there are many disks you can get hold of it
t to 1388 the same wheels fit
OgneLo
Niarma, we are talking about the case when 7605 is one and there is no other similar device
fffuntic
Marina, I'm talking about a mulberry-grater. Which is without any bowls. A little one, in appearance, like a manual meat grinder with small grater drums.
But Leven seems to me the same in simplicity. As I understand it, the cat cried out there in Leuven to wash. The assembly is simpler than filipki, but there is a chopping knife. Leuven looks even smaller than a mulch. Perhaps the girls found a very good little girl.
Only it is not clear what is there with the bow. On the bow, you still have to get the additional unit if the little one does not pull.
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
with small drum graters
I don’t like that
By the way, it is very convenient to chop one carrot on 1388, there is just a composite pusher
fffuntic
Not only disks with 1388 are suitable for 7605, you can take not inserts, but round disks from large combines spoiled by Avito. Look at the shape of the stem. Fully compatible models. For 7605, the only thing that is difficult to get is the julienne insert, which in 1388 is already included.
OgneLo
I think the insert can also be bought from repeat models. By the way, Phillips are great at chopping onions.
fffuntic
WELL ..... I have no technical ability to place a dishwasher. I don't have much drying space. I can only keep one unit on the table at all times. Therefore, probably, these are the criteria.
If there is a dishwasher and a dryer, then, probably, yes ... you can constantly use the film. And I pick myself less work. I have fewer helpers in the kitchen




By the way, Phillips are great at chopping onions.
On a julienne. That is, by 7605, you have to look for julienne blood from your nose if this film is the only one




1388 are different. Not all plug-in pushers, by the way. When buying, you need to pay attention.
The possibilities of the filek are much more than the mulka, and I think the leven. The capacities are different. More accurate rubbing.There is no need to speak here.
But in terms of assembly, cleaning, drying, if you do everything yourself, without a dishwasher .. no comparison with mulka.

And if we compare with the Bosch-brown, which are going to the same way, then the little films in my eyes immediately lose.
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
On julienne
and also, on a shredder or as a chopper with knives with a pulse ... and on fries, too, you can. Likewise on bosh
Sheala
Quote: fffuntic
The possibilities of the filek are much more than the mulka, and I think the leven.
Leben is just a table grater plus a chopper, nothing more. There can be no talk of any serious opportunities or volumes on it. Onions + two carrots + beets for borscht or carrots + apple for salad - this is his topic Well, or two potatoes for chips, a glass of shortcrust pastry for crumble
I have a large bosch, a medium bamix and I will not get them from the shelves for the sake of the above. And the leben is small and does not even go into the closet, always at hand
nila
Quote: Biryusa
Aresa AR-1704
I went to look for such a toy! I found it, but the postscript that the product is already outdated, and it can no longer be found on sale.
But I found just such a vegetable cutter, although it comes complete with a citrus juicer. I don’t understand what kind of shredder discs are included, it’s clear that it cuts cubes.

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OgneLo
nila, Food processor / multi-cutter West FP302SB, also on the manufacturer's website
Svetta
Nelya, this device only grinds, that is, makes finely chopped. No cutting or rubbing.
OgneLo
Quote: svetta
No cutting and rubbing
According to the instructions and description on the I-market: there is cutting and chafing.
Instructions
Svetta
Marina, I read too

Included:
Universal mixer: yes
Chopper bowl volume, [l]: 1.5
Bowl Material: Plastic
Pusher: yes
Dough attachment: yes
Utility knife: yes
Slicing disc: yes
Meat grinder: no
Mini mill: yes
Blender: yes
Blender bowl volume, [l]: 1.5
Blender Bowl Material: Plastic
Juicer: no
Citrus Juicer: Yes
General characteristics
Power, [W]: 300
Storage space for attachments: yes
Body Material: Plastic / Metal
Color: black-silver



not a word about graters, except for cutting into slices
nila
svetta, They just write a multi-cut and about cubes.


Main bowl volume: 0.6 l
Blender bowl volume: 0.6 l
Power: 300W
Attachments: Blender, Grinder, Meat grinder, Citrus juicer, Universal juicer, For kneading dough, For dicing
Optional: Rubberized feet
Storage space for attachments

Svetta
Hmm, how interesting - everything is different about one device. But there is no grater anywhere in the description.
nila
And according to Marina's link, they write about a disk for slicing. And the price is shown here quite ridiculous, 282 UAH and it seems there is
But I don't need anything, I have everything ... but maybe I need
Svetta
Nelya, the slicing disc is not a grater, it is just slices, NOT sticks. And in your link there is also about cubes, but I don’t believe that such a simple device with a cube cutter. Rather, they called it the same slices.
Go and see.
nila
Power is not small, designed for crushing ice.
I will not go. I don't need duplicate devices. And I have something to cut into cubes. It's just interesting, and even such a run-up in prices.




I realized that these are NOT sticks. This is a slicer cut and is hard to confuse with a dicing insert. Maybe the difference in price is that the first link has this insert for cubes.
fffuntic
Download the instructions and everything becomes clear.


Device details:
A. Motor / speed selection
B. Bowl
C. Chopping knife
D. Grinding lid
E. Slicing disc
F. Shredder disc
G. Shredder cover
H. Pusher
I. Blender Jar
J. Jug lid
K. Measuring glass
Comment
The shredding disc can be used for both shredding and
slicing. In both cases, the working side of the disc is on top.
.......
Fig. B8 Place food in the tube on lid “g”. Insert pusher
“H” into the pipe. Using the pusher, move the food through the pipe
onto the shredder disc.
• At the end of cooking, disconnect the device from the mains.



there is only one double-sided shredding disc: a slicer grater. The dimensions are not clear, but there is something)))))))))))))))) The cutting disc is a plastic plug so that it does not fall into the bowl when shredding, but goes into the nozzle spout.
Chopper knife and glass blender. Truncated.
OgneLo
svetta, I read the instructions, and gave a link to the instructions.
Quote: fffuntic
Download the instructions and everything becomes clear
Yes
Quote: nila
the price is shown here
most likely, the old one, because at the bottom of the page it is written that the site has not been updated since November last year.
nila
Marina, prices, in principle, have not changed since November last year. Here you can see some other reason for the difference in price.
OgneLo
nila, if necessary, you can probably contact them and clarify
nila
Marina, I will neither go nor get involved, otherwise I'll be tempted there is no different shredder and it already stops. I have enough devices of all kinds, for all occasions. Tomorrow I'll get another julienne grater on Brown, it's been at the post office for 3 days already, and I'll be happy. I didn't even order disc noodles, although I placed an order for it. But it turned out that the noodles must be ordered in advance, the waiting period is two months, I am still thinking about it.
OgneLo
Quote: nila
two months
is not lot long, but it makes no sense to duplicate devices unnecessarily.
nila
Quote: OgneLo
That's not a lot
A lot, especially when you consider that there was only one julienne grater in stock in this store. And the price for it was less than in other online stores. So I didn't wait for her to be picked up. And paying twice for 40 UAH for delivery is not a hunt. But I still wonder if I need these noodles. I can get slices on any Berner insert or Rocko grater. Yes, and the Giant has such an insert, although I do not like it.
OgneLo
Quote: nila
Lot
fixed, I'm talking about the waiting time ... but paying twice for delivery is not at all profitable ...

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