IRR
I will say a few words, while "a respite before the fight", since Vadim is interested in the shortcomings, I think it's worth paying attention:
- in a small, non-removable insert in the lid - it is inconvenient to wash.
- in large - still the lack of top baking. Regarding the modes, I also have questions about the discrepancy, but this is just fixable.
An undeniable advantage over a highly respected closet Panasonic, I consider the pan itself (material) + design, namely the presence such valves and handles - easy to carry, including taking with you on trips (well, there, to the dacha, to the sea).
Gypsy
Girls, heated in a lid, should not be mistaken for an oven. The pressure in the rice cooker also rises, but this is not a pressure cooker.
IRR
I understand, you have a working day today?
Quote: gypsy

Girls, heated in a lid, should not be mistaken for an oven. The pressure in the rice cooker also rises, but this is not a pressure cooker.
then what does this 3-D heating mean that they are manipulating? bottom-right-left - you look! just the volume comes out, go google it ... And you showed Toshiba, there were specific heating elements inside the lid, like in my Klatronik's frying pan.

Tanyush! Today, if you have time, please feel the lid in all modes, what the hell is not kidding ... (Vadim IMHO yesterday, in full confidence, was about the fact that the big one bakes from above) or maybe we fantasized it?
Vadim Solynin
Good evening, Dear Girls.

I follow the forum with interest.

About 3D. The Brand 37500 multicooker (large, I clarify so that Stiletto does not waste precious time translating my words) has 3 heating elements. At the bottom (most powerful), in the middle of the pot and in the lid. But in the middle of the pot and in the lid, the heating elements are very thin, and I join the opinion Jelen and others, that they were not invented for toasting the crust, but to maintain the overall temperature or for the absence of condensation, and these elements are turned on not immediately, but at a certain stage of cooking.

Thank you IRR for the formulation of shortcomings.
Thank you Tatiana for the good reviews. First of all, I really need the shortcomings of our technology, but reading the positive reviews is SO nice

About the list. Decide of course Hairpin, but I would not like to somehow limit the participants and participants of the forum, and even more so to drive them into some kind of framework. For my part, I am ready to offer the following option: by the end of 2010, everyone who applied for the purchase of a Brand multicooker and referred to Hairpin or the website, we are ready to provide a 20% discount.

About the timing of the arrival of Brand multicookers. According to preliminary calculations, the first batch of multicooker will be available for another one or two months. The next (modified) batch of Brand multicookers will arrive in late August, early September.
IRR
Dear testers, Tanya and Hairpin, measure pzhl. the sizes of their pots from Brand. A crazy thought crept in - and, what?, How they can be interchangeable with Panasonic. Tanya, of course, has nothing to compare with, so from you, Tanya, only the dimensions (diameter and height), and cha, Shpil, little Panasonic? (if I'm not mistaken), Duc try to shove a pot from Brand into it. But what if?
Suslya
Well, I don’t know ... but it doesn’t suit me at all that Stewing on the machine, and even only 3 hours. I like it more to my liking, to set the right time and not go to the cartoon until he calls Yes, and for the jellied meat it takes more time than 3 hours.
jelen
In terms of size, both brand multi-cookers differ little! I like the ceramic coating of the bowls. I read the following about this coating: “According to experts, in multi-cookers, where high pressure is created in the process, there cannot be bowls made of natural ceramics, becausehigh temperatures and pressures are corrosive and will be destructive to natural materials. If there are ceramics in such devices, then it will have impurities and additives, and this is already "chemistry". Of course, the manufacturer will keep silent about this. "I am interested in the next moment, and what impurities are in the coating, what precautions should be taken? So, using a harmful Teflon coating, I know that the heating should not reach 200 degrees and when scratches appear change the bowl! And here how? The Chinese do not always please with their alloys, remember at least a batch of harmful toys! So I wanted Vadim to know about this too! Of course, you can send doubters for a cuckoo with a gilded coating, but you don't want to pay 30,000 when it costs 10,000 in the country of origin.
Ernimel
Girls, pay attention to how the Brand knocked down Panasonic prices! Do the laws of the market really work in our country?
Elementary Watson. It's just that everyone who wanted to buy it for 200 bucks has already bought it for 200 bucks. Now a series of those who are ready to buy it for 120 bucks have come. At the same time, those who want to buy it for 200 can freely do it from official dealers such as panaplaza or eldorado ..

The price factor when choosing a Brand-Panasonic is not deciding now. The difference of 300 rubles in favor of the Brand (there is, however, a magic promotional discount of 700 rubles (20%), but it 1. is not eternal, and 2. not everyone will know about it). And then everyone thinks to himself that he is dearer ...

using a harmful Teflon coating, I know that the heating should not reach 200 degrees and change the bowl when scratches appear
If my memory serves me - not 200, but perhaps 300 or 400, but with this T, food is already at the stage of coals and it doesn't matter. But about scratches is a myth. Especially my husband-matmekh read and found out when they scratched me on the HP bucket, and I was dumb to use it further. it can start to burn - yes. If the coating is poor, it may begin to peel off further. But scratches alone do not harm.
prascovia
Hello! I didn’t notice that someone would write about the "Heating" mode, as in Panas. For me, this is important - I put the porridge on the timer, and then it reaches a couple of hours. And another question for Tanya - is there absolutely no crust on top of the "baking", or is there some degree of frying? I beg your pardon - if it has already been discussed somewhere.
IRR
Quote: Ernimel

It's just that everyone who wanted to buy it for 200 bucks has already bought it for 200 bucks. Now a series of those who are ready to buy it for 120 bucks have come. At the same time, those who want to buy it for 200 can freely do it from official dealers such as panaplaza or eldorado ..;
All the same, when there is a choice - it's better. Let there be both expensive (due to the name and technology) and less expensive and inexpensive finally with two programs. Until now, it was really boring to have only Panasonic in front of your eyes. And the presence such pots at Brenda, makes it personally for me, it is more attractive than P. About the condensate trap in general I will keep silent. Regardless of some jambs with prog-type, here is pilaf at B, here pilaf at P. You just have to get used to it. (again, make pilaf on the standard), not on pilaf.
jelen
Ernimel wrote [If my memory serves me - not 200, but either 300 or 400, but with this T, food is already at the stage of coals and it doesn't matter. But about scratches is a myth. Especially my husband-matmekh read and found out when they scratched me on the HP bucket, and I was dumb to use it further. it can start to burn - yes. If the coating is poor, it may begin to peel off further. But scratches alone do not harm.
[/ quote]

200 degrees! Carefully read the literature and the link you gave. And tell your mathematician husband that scratches are already destruction, which is not good, IMHO. In addition, here chemistry should be considered more than mathematics.
Natulek
Quote: Ernimel

If my memory serves me - not 200, but either 300 or 400
Maximum 200-250
Gypsy
Quote: IRR

You just have to get used to it. (again, make pilaf on the standard), not on pilaf.
chinese pilaf in a Chinese rice cooker on a prog *rice* (step by step):
🔗
Multicooker Brand
IRR
Quote: jelen

tanya1962! It's time Hairpin make a separate page with recipes for Brand, so as not to look for where, what and when? Write everything there in detail, how long it takes to cook, what is the tab of the products.
all recipes from Panasonic and from all our rice cookers and from slow cookers and from Hotters can be easily optimized for a BRAND IMHO. Knowing the modes. Including recipes from our forum from etc.

GY-gy (wrote the answer, not knowing yet that the gypsy dashed off faster than me)
jelen
Gypsy! So I mean what you know, but I don't, because I haven't read everything! And Brenda will now have no less housewives than Panasonic, his cup and functions on the machine and delay are too tempting! Throw me, please, a link to the new Israeli rice cooker, I'm also interested
Hairpin
I received this letter in a personal:

Quote: misirina

Hairpin, good evening!
I'm still on the 15th page of the topic about the multicooker, to the end for a long time to read ...
just in case I am writing now, I would like to buy an already "modified" model. that is, not the first batch ... and if our Roman's wishes are still accepted, I found out that advanced multicooker (very expensive) has a function of scales - it really would be very functional ...

But we haven't shoved the scales yet ...

misirina!
Welcome to our theme! You can safely post on the topic directly! We are all glad !!!
ikko4ka
Quote: Admin Brand

1. In a small multicooker there is no possibility to change the cooking time. All programs are automatic. By pressing the "Set" button, you program the timer (delay) time.
The operating time of the programs is described in the instructions.
Oh. so that in the big one you can program the cooking time?
misirina
about the scales - I'm sure it's not difficult at all for electronics.
and a very nice addition, especially for the exact recipes in the Brand instructions
Luysia
Quote: ikko4ka

Oh. so that in the big one you can program the cooking time?

If you believe the instructions, then yes:

4. Button "Timer". This button is used to change the time
cooking in programmed modes. The button is used in all
modes except "Rice", "Buckwheat" and "Millet". Configurable using the "Hour" buttons
and "Min".

Table of possible time settings for the "Timer" button:

Mode name Settings

Pilaf 60 - 120 minutes (default 90 minutes)
Steam 70 - 120 minutes (default 90 minutes)
Baking 40 - 70 minutes (default 60 minutes)
Soup 90 - 180 minutes (default 120 minutes)
Milk porridge 40 - 120 minutes (default 60 minutes)
Braising 90 - 180 minutes (default 120 minutes)


misirina
and more ... maybe it would be better not only in hours, but also in hours + minutes to make it possible to delay the launch ...
Luysia
Quote: misirina

and more ... maybe it would be better not only in hours, but also in hours + minutes to make it possible to delay the launch ...

And there is:

3. "Delay" button. This button is used when ready meals are needed
To you by a certain time. The maximum grace period is 24 hours
(the button is used in all cooking modes). Configurable with
buttons "Hour" and "Min".
)
afnsvjul
UV! Finally, FSE finished reading it to the end. I just didn't quite understand - is the mode for yoghurts real or will it be only in the "project"?
Or will it already be in the new batch that will arrive by September? Do you have to sign up for them too? I'm afraid to be late
Hairpin
Afnsvjul! Welcome to our party !!!

I am writing as I think. If I'm wrong, let Vadim and Admin they will correct me.

The real likelihood of seeing the Yogurt and Proofing regime will not be until next summer. The September batch can be with the corrected modes Pilaf (heating at the end), Steam cooking (starting from the moment of boiling) and Stewing (instead of the clamped three hours - the ability to set from 1 to ... to ... up to 8 hours !!! ).

Our turn is not so much a turn as an objective monitoring of our wishes!
Luysia
Quote: Hairpin

Afnsvjul! Welcome to our party !!!

I am writing as I think. If I'm wrong, let Vadim and Admin they will correct me.

The real chance of seeing the Yogurt and Proofing regime will not be until next summer.The September batch can be with the corrected modes Pilaf (heating at the end), Steam cooking (starting from the moment of boiling) and Stewing (instead of the clamped three hours - the ability to set from 1 to ... to ... up to 8 hours !!! ).

Our turn is not so much a turn as an objective monitoring of our wishes!

Hairpin, for a big one, do not forget to increase the time of the Baking mode (and now the maximum is 70 minutes).

And in Varca for a couple the minimum time of 70 minutes is a lot. It takes about 10 minutes from the time of boiling.
IRR
Luysia, Lyudochka, but for baking, I can't add time (in my case)
Luysia
Quote: Luysia

Table of possible time settings for the "Timer" button:

Mode name Settings

Pilaf 60 - 120 minutes (default 90 minutes)
Steam 70 - 120 minutes (default 90 minutes)
Baking 40 - 70 minutes (default 60 minutes)
Soup 90 - 180 minutes (default 120 minutes)
Milk porridge 40 - 120 minutes (default 60 minutes)
Braising 90 - 180 minutes (default 120 minutes)

IRR, judging by the instructions, the baking time can be selected from 40 to 70 minutes.
IRR
Quote: Luysia

IRR, judging by the instructions, the baking time can be selected from 40 to 70 minutes.
Lyudochka, Duc, IMHO more than an hour (+ - 15 minutes) no one seems to be in the cartoon and did not bake. Then they turn it over and turn it on again for an hour. You're not going to leave the house on a baking program, are you? You still need to watch.
Suslya
I have been baking for more than an hour, but yesterday I made a chocolate cake, set it for 65 minutes, then added 20 minutes, and I do the same for my beloved Burenka, I don't have an hour.
Luysia
Quote: IRR

Lyudochka, Duc, IMHO more than an hour (+ - 15 minutes) no one seems to be in the cartoon and did not bake. Then they turn it over and turn it on again for an hour. You're not going to leave the house on a baking program, are you? You still need to watch.

IRRwhat do you mean nobody ?!

I add (have to) and don't flip. And in a charlotte with frozen currants and behold Sponge cake for jam "Kolobok"
And I want to put not 65 + 30, but immediately 1 hour 35 minutes.

Hairpin
Quote: IRR

Girls, Tanya and Hairpin, answer, pzhl, to the question - is there a mode in your pots extinguishing, identical to Panasonic. For Tanya I will explain - to boil, but barely. And if so, what is it called - extinguishing or something else. Since this mode is the most used by many - I would like to know (maybe I missed something, then) and in general, if there is an opportunity to go through the modes, then please. This will help many to determine. It's good that you can get out of the situation by switching and jumping from mode to mode. But I would like, since these are automatic modes, to put on extinguishing and forget for a couple of hours.

Yeah, there is. Quenching is called. The machine extinguishes for three hours. I just needed a little gurgle, but there was a decent gurgle. You can't fix anything here. The level of the buns depends on the product. Here something will gurgle strongly, something weak. Only I am a sucker, and I jumped between Extinguishing and Heating. It was also necessary to jump between the Quenching and Heating up ..
Hairpin
Quote: jelen

The brand was going to use the multicooker on this site, see at the very bottom Let's compare the results of the experiments !?

The link is very interesting, but I haven't read it yet. Strained one of the first posts:

Indeed, both Land Life and Panasonic very similar... One principle of operation and one purpose. But, Land Life, on top of everything else, is also SKOROVARKA, and Panasonic - "slow cooker"(The term was not invented by me, as it was dubbed by the participants in the discussions on the forums.) And secondly, Panasonic is not on sale, and it is not known when it will appear.


Um ..
Vadim Solynin
Good afternoon, lovely girls

Quote: Hairpin

Afnsvjul!
The real chance of seeing the Yogurt and Proofing regime will not be until next summer. The September batch can be with the corrected modes Pilaf (heating at the end), Steam cooking (starting from the moment of boiling) and Stewing (instead of the clamped three hours - the ability to set from 1 to ... to ... up to 8 hours !!! ).

I'll correct it a little. A new folk multicooker with Yoghurt and Proofing modes may arrive later this year.

Quote: jelen

it is clear that multicooker is normal, an approach is needed to everything and the price is now normal, and then it will surely grow as buyers start writing about it. I wonder if I come to them for a purchase and say that from the forum, will they sell it to me for minus 20%? I want a little one now, my seventh feeling tells me that it's a normal cartoon!

If you say that it is from the Bread Maker's website or from Shpilka, they will definitely give it. The system is working and customers are already coming from the BAKERY website.

Quote: Luysia

... on page 10 in section 7 of the instructions how to set the stitching time. It seems like your 15 minutes is 15 hours (max stitching time). ...

My applause. A person reading instructions these days is so rare.

Quote: IRR

I apologize, maybe I misunderstood something, but IMHO the current queue for multi is no longer relevant after Vadim's post, now only coordination of joint purchases is required to reduce the cost of supplies. And there will be enough cartoon for everyone - Brand wrote. Someone already wants to purchase, without waiting for the end of the tests. Just now question appeared along the way - will it be possible to use a 20% discount once or buy yourself a whole line of branded cartoons if everyone suddenly likes it? (they are different both in displacement and in functionality, and many will want, perhaps, to replace their already used, reused Panasonic, because his tavos saucepan could become unusable) Or bought one at a discount and fatite? Please clarify the answer to this question.

Until the end of this year, the discount can be used an UNLIMITED number of times.
And if the experience is successful, together we will come up with a new variant of cooperation, beneficial for the users of the BAKERY forum.
zvezda
Girls and boys!!! I want to express my gratitude to the employees of this company .... and separately Roman !!!!Thank you so much!!! Everything is very prompt and polite !!! We ordered 2 MB there and everything was on time and with an explanation !!! In general Tanya.... I join you tonight !!! I will try. ... it would be nice to do something that you haven't done yet!?! Maybe someone will throw an idea ??? Who is interested in what ???? I am a person who is carried away and in love with my technique .... so I will experience it to the fullest !!! True, as I understand it, I'm not always objective ..... I really don't like the word "bad" ...
Luysia
Quote: Luysia

On page 10 in section 7 of the instructions how to set the stitching time. It seems like your 15 minutes is 15 hours (max stitching time).
Quote: SVP

My applause. A person reading instructions these days is so rare.

SVPthanks for the applause!

Unfortunately, all that remains for me is to read the instructions for the Brand multicooker.

I would gladly join you as zvezda, to the team of "testers", but I still cannot solve the issue of delivery (I live in Ukraine).
zvezda
Here's a vermicelli and I'll do it ..... Yesterday they brought it. The first impression is great. It is not big, although it is 5L, very nice design. I'll try and report back.
Gypsy!! And what is your model ???
IRR
Quote: zvezda

Here's a vermicelli and I'll do it ..... Yesterday they brought it. The first impression is great. It is not big, although it is 5L, very nice design. I'll try and report back.
Gypsy!! And what is your model ???
Olga, at gypsies sanyo, in the profile is completely. Only she is called a rice cooker, huch and smart, with buttons.
zinaidabakunina
Girls, hello. I'm new here. I would like to buy a multicooker Brand. I read and want to buy it more and more.
dopleta
But I have a question to Vadim or Roman - will the changes affect only the large MV? Or small too? And, if small - too, then what?
IRR
Quote: dopleta

But I have a question to Vadim or Roman - will the changes affect only the large MV? Or small too? And, if small - too, then what?
doplet point! And I realized that small and large, which are now being tested, they remain in the open sale without changes, and the new one - it will not be based on big or small, it will be just new, based on our wishes (yogurt dough, etc.) And what displacement it will have and what face is not yet clear... This is how I understood it. ... and how the guys from Brand will answer, I would also like to clarify, to make a choice (not so much its exterior as its volume ???) Or maybe there will be two of them too small. and great. Or, after all, these are ours ?, but modified?
dopleta
Quote: IRR

I would also like to clarify, to determine the choice (not so much its exterior, but the volume ???) Or maybe two of them will be small. and great.

I'm sure there are two. And I'm sure that the lesser (naturally) will have fewer opportunities. So that's what will change? My daughter is going to Moscow ... I would, of course, buy both the old and the new one. The family will remain silent, but will be surprised. By the way, Gypsy, you write that your "Sanka" is silent? And mine beeps for me.
Hairpin
Here are Christmas trees, sticks, bobbins !!!

The modes were ordered, and now no one wants to help write instructions for the Yogrut mode !!! It will be wrong, but we ourselves will complain ...

It appears like this. Those who are addicted to yogrut have dropped by here and read my instructions on yogurt for sobriety!
Curry
Girls, is it worth buying such a slow cooker?
I read 27 pages about its use and honestly, I got confused .. Are the modes confused there? Or not?

Was there a new batch already?
IRR
Quote: Curry

Girls, is it worth buying such a slow cooker?
I read 27 pages about its use and honestly, I got confused .. Are the modes confused there? Or not?

Was there a new batch already?
Yes, there are jambs in the programs, mainly in translation. There were no new ones.
Tanyusha
Curry personally suits me in this slow cooker and bakes well and stews meat and cook rice.
IRR
Quote: tanya1962

Curry personally suits me in this slow cooker and bakes well and stews meat and cook rice.
Yes, you have to get used to it and everything will be. Especially like u Tanya - removable cover - easy to wash.
Curry
Quote: IRR

Yes, there are jambs in the programs, mainly in translation. There were no new ones.

But can you figure it out? I have a very busy financial period right now. At home with a child.
So I wanted a cheaper one. My husband today in the Globe in my opinion saw .. Tomorrow wants to go buy .. Or offers Panasonic on credit. So I don't sleep at night and I think ..
IRR
Curry, take, of course, Brand! Do not forget to say that you are Khlebopechkinskaya and give the password * Hairpin *. 20% discount is guaranteed for you (I don't sleep either)
Curry
Girls good morning !!
I'm right here in the morning !!

And here is a discount offer !!

I'd love to know how to implement it? And does it work in the Globus store?

PS I have been at the forum for a long time since December 2009. With the help of the forum, I bought and mastered the x \ n Kenwood.
But somehow my account was not activated. I stopped trying to write here. All the same, not a single message was published.
Then I tried it again and it worked. (y) Now I'm here-: :) think for a long time)
zvezda
Curry!!!Take a large one and do not hesitate !!! I cooked in it for a whole month and everything is very successful !!! And I baked bread (foccachu) and made a zebra cake and made paella, but the soup is generally perfectly regulated !!!! And about the discount, you need to call the company and they will do it for you, and even bring home !!!
Tanyusha
In August they changed the floor in the kitchen and naturally everything was taken out of there, so the cartoon with the slow cooker generally worked for wear and tear, I have a lot of people + the dog everyone needs to be fed, it was so I boil the rice tudzhe transfer it to another container, my cartoon pot and right there load the next dish and so I had a week. I don't have any complaints about the multicooker, you won't regret taking Curry.

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