Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

No, I haven't even seen this recipe

[Wit]

Wit, thank you very much, I will look for the very recipe that my husband will like and will be permanent with us)



yosha, thanks, very interesting, I will have to try)
Svetlenki, yeah, a little stuck with this recipe ahaha

Natasha, I baked with cottage cheese only Manin according to GOST with cottage cheese, and I changed the proportions, well, as usual

Roll with cottage cheese in accordance with GOST (Sonadora)

And here I wrote a report here Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 4068

The girls, after learning how to bake pure rye without yeast with sourdough, our family cannot eat it, they have forgotten about white bread. I have already exhausted a 250 g can of coriander

[Thumbelina, Olya]

Thumbelina, Olya, sister rye bread - the most delicious. And I have coriander and cumin are flying

Good day, dear bakers! Can you please tell me, and should the cotton vibrate when mixing? Acquired Panasonic 2501. For the first time I baked egg bread from the instructions. I put it in the night and did not control the batch. The bread came out excellent. Today I decided to bake it, but I took another flour. The first time was "Makfa", and now "Tsar-flour". This flour seemed drier, so I put it not 400 grams, as in the recipe, but 380. But when the stove began to knead, it began to shake, and the dough beat against the sides of the bucket so that it woke up my husband in the next room. Now I doubt if this is normal or not? The toli dough was too steep (although the bun was not too steep to the touch), it is normal that it shakes and the dough beats loudly in the bucket. It's just that this is my first bread maker and I'm very afraid to break it, because there is the place where the bucket is attached to the x / n made of plastic ...

[Cielito lindo]

Cielito lindo, your dough turned out to be cool, I had such flour, I took only 1 kg well, I didn't like it, it was both dry and empty, the bread turned out to be not high, although I baked it in French

your dough is cool

Thank you for your answer, Lyudmila! That is, if I understood correctly, with a normal (not cool) test, the cotton should not vibrate at all? And the sound of kneading is not heard?



And in general, how big is the probability of a x / n breakage with a too steep test? (I repeat the flour I put even less than in the recipe from the instructions)

[Cielito Lindo, Elena]

Cielito Lindo, Elena, in Panasik, according to recipes from the instructions, the dough is usually quite soft, slightly smeared, and during the kneading process it does not hit the sides of the bucket, you can hear the sound of the motor and, in principle, that's it. The stove only vibrates on steep dough. for example, on dumplings, or if there is not enough liquid, then the spatula hits the dough against the walls like a ball

[Elena]

Elena, Hello!
Slight vibration is normal, kneads in the same place.

In order not to upset the balance of flavoring ingredients, it is better not to reduce the flour, but to increase the liquid.

It's just that this is my first bread maker and I'm very afraid to break it, because there is the place where the bucket is attached to the x / n made of plastic ...

Read the explanation about plastic in this HP
Where and why plastic in Panasonic

Thanks for answers! The most surprising thing is that the dough felt sticky to the touch ... But next time I will add more liquid or I simply will not take this flour, there were no such problems with McFa for the first time, although I put it according to the recipe!

[Cielito lindo]

Cielito lindo, flour, flour, strife, I will definitely not take this "royal" anymore, I spoiled two French ones last week, baked the third on Ryazanochka and everything is normal, tall beautiful bread.

[Cielito lindo]

Cielito lindo, the main thing is the correct kolobok!
Depending on the flour (moisture, for example), the bun may need liquid or flour. But recipes for Panas are verified and almost do not require adjustment.

recipes for Panas are verified and require almost no adjustment.

This is exactly what I was hoping for, so I measured everything exactly according to the recipe. It worked out great the first time. Secondly (with "Tsar flour") the bread also turned out to be quite good, baked normally. But the strong vibration and the impact of the dough on the bucket caused fear for the fate of the cotton. I really don't want to break it so stupidly on the second attempt ...

I'm probably so sure in Panas that I was never afraid. No, I'm lying, once there was such a tight dough that Panasik stood up. This lesson was enough for me. I don’t repeat such mistakes again. But there were both bran and seeds. So he failed.

[Svetochka]

Panasik got up

Svetochka, well, why not, I have never had this. On rye plasticine, I worry about the motor, and I try to make life easier for him manually. But on nothing else, even dumplings I did not have

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, can you imagine what I experienced? I'm so careful with the technique, but here it is. When I bake rye, it is always next to the stove.

Perhaps, but only the dispenser opens at the end of the batch and for the remaining time, the agitator may not have time to grind the stuck raisins

Well, the raisins will not have time to stick together in 20 minutes to such an extent.

Criticism without an alternative is a road to nowhere. No need to be annoyed and annoy others in vain.

This is not a criticism, but a statement of fact! I thought we closed this topic a long time ago. And I am always calm, only you are annoyed ...

[Peter]

Peter, Natasha-Waist does not get annoyed. She, as I managed to notice, is the most correct and sooo friendly moderator. And she actually helped you solve the problem of.
If you didn’t ask for help, but wanted to state a fact, you would write that - I see the problem, I don’t want to solve it, I want to speak out. Nobody would waste time offering you options.

If this is tyts - a statement of fact, then I'm afraid to assume that in your understanding, the post with the expression of emotions. Moreover, with such an avatar ... Colt, shooting without warning? This is a joke, of course! But with a share ...

She, as I managed to notice, is the most correct and sooo friendly moderator.

I fully agree and support

[Peter]

This is not a criticism, but a statement of fact! I thought we closed this topic a long time ago.

Thank you, Peterreally, there is nothing to talk about. Now it is clear that you are not looking for help or compromise. The topic is closed with you.
Good bread to you, even without raisins!

Elena, Sveta, well, they drove into the paint

Knowing, tell me. Are wheat and oat bran used interchangeably in baking?
And yet, adding a little Durum flour to wheat flour, will we end up with strong baking flour?

[Vika]

Vika, judging by what they write: durum wheat (Latin Trīticum dūrum) - a type of wheat rich in gluten, should increase.

Are wheat and oat bran used interchangeably in baking?

I think they are quite interchangeable, and then and then the shell of the grain, and the "husk", precisely in baked goods, will not make much difference

[Vika]

and also adding a little Durum flour to the wheat flour

Vika, and is it (Durum) as small as flour or similar to grains? If for grains, then I would have made a lobe beforehand

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, I think so too. Thank you!
Sveta, small for me! and a lobe ... is it to make flour with water and yeast and stand a little in the refrigerator?

small with me!

if it is fine as flour, then nothing is needed.

A lobe (soaker) is made for grains, flakes, seeds, cereals, as well as for semolina durum (it looks like grains). No need for flour

[Sveta]

Sveta, all clear! Thank you!

Took a habit before baking white according to the program, France,: girl_love: sprinkle with sesame seeds

Took a habit before baking white according to the program, France,: girl_love: sprinkle with sesame seeds

And try adding sesame seeds to ordinary white bread and honey instead of sugar.It turns out very tasty.

And try adding sesame seeds to ordinary white bread and honey instead of sugar. It turns out very tasty.

+1
Sesame inside the bread is terribly tasty- :))) when I sprinkle it on top, it, as a rule, is poured when slicing. No matter how much I fought, I don't hold on, that's all
But, which in my opinion is very important, when we add sesame seeds during kneading, it works like semolina, that is, it absorbs liquid! Therefore, if you add sesame seeds to the batch, then you need to clarify the bread recipe. It's easier for me not to report the torment and follow the kolobok.
The second point - the sesame is scratching the pot.

No matter how much I fought, I don't hold on, that's all

Advice!
I sprinkle it 30 minutes before baking, after sprinkling the lid of the bread with water (3 puffs) from the laundry sprayer, sprinkle it with sesame seeds and sprinkle it after sprinkling, it has time to soak and stick firmly in 30 minutes.
And for black starter, I do it in an hour, but there are flax seeds.

[Thumbelina]

Thumbelina, thanks, I will try this method too.

Today in Magnit I bought rye flour for testing, a package of 2 kg of Tverskaya and 1 kg of Ryazanochka. I have not bought these yet, so I grabbed both to try this and that
I like to pour flax into pure wheat, even French, I did not notice that it would soak ... and I never adjusted flour or liquid

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, I bake from rye Ryazanochka (there is nothing better now. Limak is gone) Normal flour. Tverskaya once bought wheat. I liked it.

And I buy in Pudov via the Internet.

And I buy in Pudov via the Internet.

What?

What?

Peeled and whole grain.

Near our house in the city of Netto they close, and I bought wheat LIMAC of the 1st grade there. I'm right now in a panic, where I will buy the first grade at a normal price. You can indulge in Altai for 110 rubles for 2 kg, but it's kind of strange to bake on it all the time ... and it seems like I can afford it, but I can't ...

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, I take Tver and wheat, and now rye - also appeared in Magnit. I like. The first grade Nekrasovskaya or Melnikoff is in Pyaterochka. There is one, then another. It happens that everything disappears, then it appears again.

We have not had Limak for a long time 1 sec. and rye in those stores where it was sold earlier. Only in. from.

I have never seen in the top-fives of the first grade I bought in Netto, 7th and Semishagof, and it also happened in Prism ...
Here the girls wrote recently (Larisa Dupletta) she buys in Leonardo: malt, like flour and vegetable oil, I want to take a walk to our Leonardo, I haven't been there for a long time, maybe there is some interesting flour there ... For me, a surprise in this store is such goods

And at the Crossroads? I only take grade 1 there. I don't really look at the names, I look at the price tag. There is a very budgetary price tag. Forgot what Limak looks like ... Is there such a guy with a green face on the package? Or with red ...

[Wit]

Wit, here is such 1 grade
Green, this is a rye peasant

Yep, exactly! But I do not take rye with a muzzle, but ... I forgot to take it reflexively, when I see it. 1 kg packing. I take it anywhere, either at 5 or at 7 shagoffs. Why memorize it. I remember only the bad, so as not to get stuck again, like with tape 365.

Something I do not really understand why the 2502 is more expensive than the 2512, although the second model has more programs?
What's the catch?

[Airborn]

Airborn, the trick in the pricing of a particular seller

Vitaly, but in our Crossroads I haven't seen the 1st grade for a thousand years

Limak 1s is often in Verny

[Olga]

Olga, thanks, I'll have to look closely. I'm rarely there. It is quite expensive from the surrounding area.

the trick in the pricing of a particular seller

Similarly, the eplaza website gives a difference in price not in favor of 2502

16 690 for 2512 and 17 790 for 2502! For what???

[Airborn]

AirbornI don't know how this particular seller is drawing prices. For example, technopark 2502 is cheaper than 2512 (17790 and 18490, respectively). There may be a difference due to a different course when purchasing stoves. Perhaps these stores need to sell 2512, because they are stale. I do not know. Why do you need to know?