Peter Push
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From the machine I want it to qualitatively knead any kind of dough (liquid, tight on dumplings), beat eggs, butter without any problems, so that the meat grinder attachment works efficiently with 1-2 kg of meat, regardless of veins and films that come across.
It is a pity that in the new edition of posts and comets they considered it unnecessary to set a date, so I apologize if I was late with my thoughts, like a grammar about the royal forgiveness ...

surname, at one time I also went through this path of choice ... I stopped at Kenwood 770 (this is an old classification, now it is XXL 4 ...). My requirements were like yours. KM with a capacity of 1200. It was sold with a meat grinder and blender + hook attachments, keshka and whisk. I have been using it for about 4 years. I'm happy. I'm picky by nature, but the meat grinder suits me, it's minced meat a couple of times a week + processing meat for sausage and meat loaf (I bought a syringe), a kneader three times a week, plus cakes. I bought a food processor in addition, I use a potato pan grater and a knife often. I bought an ice cream maker, I use a bowl and make ice cream in the summer, I also replaced the keshka with a stainless version and bought a hook from an induction model. Check out these models.
Masha Ivanova
zvezda, Olya! Maybe I'm saying something wrong, you correct me. The point is to explain to Alexei that he does not need many AT attachments, and instead of them he needs to buy KAH What is there another attachment of attachments. And that through the adapter, it is not the most convenient.




And then suddenly they will immediately offer extra for some action. nozzles. And for all the stores, ambassadors, etc., with all due respect to them, it is necessary to check and check. It's not for me to tell you.
zvezda
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what am i saying wrong
Everything is correct Lena!!
Masha Ivanova
zvezda, Olya! Now I am reading the handbook. In short. There is no medium speed socket on new inductions. On the old induction, the AT647 food processor goes to the medium-speed socket. And on the new one, since there is no medium-speed one, the food processor is attached to the high-speed socket and is called KAN647
In addition, the new induction has changed the low-speed socket
The beam system (pin) has been replaced with a threaded (hex) system. In most of the names of nozzles for the low-speed socket, the letters AT have changed to KAH, that is, the attachment of the nozzles themselves has also changed.
Old nozzles (AT) can be put on the new induction (on the low speed socket), but only using an adapter. But it is better to buy KAH nozzles for this socket
In short, you can't figure it out without a bottle. I will now correct the previous post so as not to mislead anyone.
zvezda
Yes, Lena, you described everything correctly!
Quote: Masha Ivanova
you can't figure it out without a bottle
agree
I used some nozzles through an adapter, but, of course, it is better directly, therefore I change the AT meat grinder to KAH.
Masha Ivanova
zvezda, Olya! So what have you decided to part with 23 Ken? On the 23rd AT950 fits!
zvezda
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23 Kenom decided to break up?
Aaaaaa ... no, no, never but ... I just have a meat grinder for it, but for their 9060 only through an adapter, so I'm ready to exchange a new AT for KAH.
smslisa
Girls, what's the problem to work through an adapter?
zvezda
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what is the problem
No problem, but it is more convenient directly! It works this way and that ...
surname
zvezda, just from St. Petersburg😀
Masha Ivanova, thanks, I will consider about the attachments.
zvezda
Alexei, shikardos !! You can watch me live ... and then I'll tell you how and what !!
surname
zvezda, thanks for the invitation, in principle I am already sure of the choice, in addition to your recommendations, I shoveled a lot of videos and reviews on the new model, I also found friends who have such a model at home, so a test drive is not particularly required. Could you find out what specific discount offers they currently have for the induction model? Or you can put me directly with a Kenwood representative, then I myself will already ask them questions.
zvezda
Alexei, come on ?? !!
Certainly can!! I'll write the phone number in PM.

What area do you live in? If it's not a secret, of course ..

inp
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Like this?? How not ?? I did not get that..
I will not write today, I will write tomorrow !!
Alexey, what city are you from ??
This is what she wrote to me from Kenwood

Olga, good afternoon!
This is Vika Kenwood, MEGA Dybenko)

We always communicate with you on our technology, so I decided to tell you that now, while the shops are not working, we are given very good discounts on all our equipment, without exception: Kenwood, brown and Delongy's coffee machines with discounts !!
If you or maybe your girls from the bread maker choose something from technologyki, let me know, let's see the maximum discount !!!)

zvezda
inna, what's this??
Masha Ivanova
smslisa, Oksana! I can only write what other Kenwood owners write on this topic. I have no experience myself, Kenwood only recently.
Many attachments to the low-speed socket, including a meat grinder, a dough sheeter and others, are attached in such a way that when connected, a backlash is obtained. The body of the meat grinder itself, the dough sheeter, seems to move slightly, sways, since it is not quite tightly attached to the body of the machine itself. And by attaching an adapter to the machine body first, then a heavy rolling or meat grinder to the adapter, we make this connection (the machine body and the active part) even more wobbly, or something. After all, these adapter plus the meat grinder hang in the air with their entire length, that is, pressing on them (and you still have to press a little on the meat grinder and the dough sheeter) may, I don’t know how to say, more dangerous than that nozzle, which fits on this socket without an adapter. For an L-type design, the airborne shoulder will be shorter without an adapter.
That's how I understand it. But those owners who use adapters on this socket will be able to answer much better.
zvezda
Masha Ivanova, there is not much backlash, but the impression is that now it’s all, this design will collapse ,,, I just don’t like it.
Alexei, look here more
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inp
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inna, what's this??
Olya, I'm sorry, I accidentally pressed
msBennet
Hello everybody! I choose Kenwood, I have already read half of this topic and the topic about nozzles. It still does not fit in my head why information on rulers and attachments should be searched for on the forums, but at the office. the site has only vidosiki "how cool we are" and the sale of one top model at a completely horse price.
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Tell me, has anyone used this store? Is everything all right with receipts, guarantees and delivery? Maybe you know where else in Moscow there are good offers now?
I stopped at KVL8300S, but I want to buy it right now, while the quarantine, vacation, I am at home and cook a lot. The induction to buy here does not rise when the computeruniverse 9060 costs 65 + shipping, but it will take a month.
zvezda
Dear new users! I beg you, indicate your city in the profile, so it is easier to understand where a person can be sent.
Masha Ivanova
msBennet, Olya! It is not a fact that such a colossus will be shipped to you with KY because of the weight and price. Better to look here.
msBennet
zvezda. I was sure I added this to my profile. Now I did it again.
Masha Ivanova, for the selected country, the product is added to the cart and the delivery date is calculated. But there is still a question with a five-year warranty, so I'll try to find here for now.
Masha Ivanova
msBennet, Olya! Well if so. For a good difference in price, you can wait a month. But it is very difficult to predict something about the guarantee.
zvezda
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question with a five-year guarantee
The solution is very simple, call the Kenwood hotline and ask ,,, do they support this particular store ??
msBennet
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The solution is very simple, call the Kenwood hotline and ask ,,, do they support this particular store ??
Logically, I didn't think about it. I called, a polite young man said that in which department the card was received, contact there the warranty only works in the country where you bought the equipment. Contact the seller and let him carry the combine to Germany, or repair it wherever you want for money. This is not Apple ...
But for now, I don't want to wait a month, I want to find something cheaper in Moscow.There is no 8300 in the kupikombayn, there is only 7300. I don't think I need a very large bowl, I cook for three people, but you never know ... Zephyr is not included ...
Masha Ivanova
msBennet, Olya! Take a large bowl! I don’t understand anything about the design and functionality of the 7300 combine, but the bowl is just big!
zvezda
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but only a big bowl
Definitely !!
msBennet
Please tell me if the new induction is too difficult to control? How quickly did you learn it and become familiar?
I had a doubt that the machine is too complex and prone to breakdowns, maybe something simpler will be more convenient to use.
zvezda
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How quickly did you learn it and become familiar?
15 minutes!! Very clear and simple !! Not heavier than a TV, let alone a computer ...
msBennet
I ordered 9060 from kupikombayn, and they offered me an alternative option - Kohler 5201 ( 🔗).
This is a professional technician, the body is aluminum, there are many more attachments in the kit (blender, food processor, meat grinder combined with a pasta machine and a citrus press), 20 thousand cheaper. And there are some ice-cream-type attachments separately, but they are not there. There is no mini-farmer, no pasta-roll. They say it is designed for professional use and is much more reliable.
But everything is somehow strange. A well-known German brand does not google in English, there is one Russian review on YouTube with unpacking, they are not on the Yandex market. Wikipedia says they make plumbing and motors. The Russian site is somehow left, my model is not there, and in general there is no sale.
S_V
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they offered me an alternative - Kohler 5201
very strange, even doubtful. 🤷 most likely it has bonuses from sales and not from kenwood 🤣🤣🤣
Anchic
Olga, for that kind of money, it's scary to take a cat in a sack!
msBennet
S_V, Anchic, yes, I googled again, and decided - well, he nafig such experiments. Ordered kenwood




Iii shop canceled the order! Somehow, unexpectedly, all the kenwoods in the warehouse ran out, although the consultant confirmed the availability. I looked for reviews on the store itself, and among a bunch of positive ones I found this - 🔗 (select negative reviews there) - they also sell kehlers instead of kenwoods, but they are defective and do not work.
And judging by the Yandex market, there is no induction anywhere (((
Anchic
Olga, I have heard this story only with Panasonic bread makers many times. The person orders Panas, they seem to confirm the availability. And then they confidentially report that they are all defective / deficient and it is better to buy this particular stove. If a person is not led, then Panasonic ends abruptly. In the corresponding thread, this story with small variations has already been encountered many, many times.




As far as I remember, induction is sold by office. representative from a separate site 🔗
Masha Ivanova
msBennet, Olya! We must try again in a day or two. Previously, in the history of Kenwood in Russia, this was only encountered when a new model appeared soon.
msBennet
Anchic, yes, it was! Kenwoods are all so flimsy and require constant maintenance, but this one is straight from Germany and is entirely made of metal! There are only 9040 on the site, and they are 15 thousand more expensive. I am not yet mentally ready for this amount, I need a couple more days)))
I'll go at least look for promo codes ...
And then flashed somewhere about a scandal with the fact that the site does not give out a cashier's receipt when buying, and generally behaves somehow ugly. Haven't you had a similar experience?
Anchic
Olga, I Kenwood bought my husband's sister and not induction, but a simpler model, at a discount in the Globe. And I have a planetary Bosch. About discounts. Here I read what people are doing. Take a car (induction) on credit and repay it the next. You just need to know in advance about the possibility of early repayment. The point here is that when selling on credit, the store essentially gives a 10% discount so that the bank will receive this interest from you. And the bank under the loan agreement does not give you the entire amount, but 10% less. And you are already gradually paying him the full cost of the car. But this is if you pay on time. And if you can immediately repay the loan, then you return the amount to the bank without interest, that is, the cost is 10% min.But I will repeat once again - it is necessary to clarify from what day you can repay the loan ahead of schedule and so that there is no commission for it. I just remember the condition for a car loan that it was possible to start paying more or in full only after 4 months.
Well, you can turn to Olga-Zvezda about induction, what discounts you can get there, or something else.

About that. what's at the office. Kenwood's website is more expensive - that's why it's more expensive because they are there and they are sold. And these Kenwood sellers are not planning to sell, they are luring buyers. It's the same story with Panasonic - people turn to these dubious stores, attracted by the low price.
lira3003
I took it on credit. I paid the full amount in the first payment. I don't remember the exact amount, but it definitely turned out cheaper. To save 10%, I probably need to pay the next day, but I waited a month. The bank received its% in only 1 month, and not for the entire loan term of 10 months
Why did you do this? Banks do not like to give loans to those who repay them the next day, but I'm not sure that this will no longer be useful to me ... something like this
LydiaVera
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And then flashed somewhere about a scandal with the fact that the site does not give out a cashier's receipt when buying, and generally behaves somehow ugly. Haven't you had a similar experience?

If your car falls under the five-year service program (it has been extended again, it is valid for products purchased before December 31, 2020), and you have not yet issued a certificate, be sure to issue it so that you do not waste time and nerves later.
To the service center for warranty repairs, you must provide a sales receipt and a certificate. If there is no certificate, then the car will be repaired free of charge, provided that 2 years have not passed since the date of purchase. The date of purchase will be viewed on the sales receipt.
If you do not have a receipt, but the car was bought at the office. Kenwood websites, call the hotline 8 (800) 550-74-26, if you need help, they will send you an email.
The certificate is issued here - 🔗... You will need to indicate your name, model and serial number of the car, date of purchase and your email.
The serial number of the machine consists of 18 characters, on one barcode sticker. Located on the underside of the car.
Anastasi_ya
Hello, I haven't mastered all 138 pages, but I've read a lot. Thank you for the detailed description)
I choose my car.
for a long time I planned to buy 5100, (it costs 45000 + 3 nozzles in Novosibirsk, power 1200, bowl 4.6)
found model 4100 (costs 25000 3 nozzles separately 20000, power 1200, bowl 6.7)
decided to expand the budget a little
in the titanium line
7300 (costs 55000 +3 nozzles, power 1500, thicket 4.6)
8300 (worth 60,000 +3 nozzles, power 1700, thicket 6.7)
There are no inductions on sale, and my mother has a thermomix idle.

in short, I doubt a little about the big bowl. I cook not too often and a lot. but I take the car for the future for 10 years .. The problem is that you don't go to the store live now, and your birthday is coming soon)
I tried to bake bread at home, I liked it.
Looking for some dough with 1.5-2 glasses of flour. Is this too small for a large bowl?
I usually make cutlets, too, 0.5 kg of minced meat + anything - isn't that too little for a large bowl?
enough space for any car. But I don't want to overpay, of course. Is 1200 enough power, or is it better to consider more?

from the attachments I plan a blender, a meat grinder, a high-speed grinder-grater. and maybe cups and rolling dough (I doubt very much about its need for now). (here you have to calculate what is more profitable to take as a gift and what to buy ..)
I would be glad to hear your advice.

LydiaVera
Anastasi_ya, take Titanium with a large bowl without hesitation. The machine is wonderful, powerful, and the bowl is just called big. In fact, you will see, just right. And sometimes I would like more, for proteins, for example. In any bowl there is a "dead space", so in reality you will fill it much less. It is kneaded and whipped in large and small bowls all equally well. When I was choosing my car, I hesitated between Titanium and induction. I took induction, but the choice was difficult.) Titanium is more powerful and, I think, more reliable, because.there is no electronics, well, or at least. If it is possible to buy kenwood, then certainly either induction or titanium with a large bowl.
smslisa
Information from managers for those who are planning to buy a car 9060 on the Stock car + nozzle. Today and tomorrow the price is the same. Hurry.
LisaNeAlisa
Anastasi_ya, take with a large bowl, there it is great to cook small quantities.
Masha Ivanova
Anastasi_ya, Anastasia! I don’t know what the previous price is for 060, I don’t know, but if you intend to buy an expensive car, then you didn’t think about induction?
Ketsal
Anastasi_ya, everyone decides about the nozzles for himself. I was repairing my 010 ken, the gearbox died - I overloaded the meat grinder. All the rules have also been changed. While waiting for the details, I bought an axion meat grinder - it works fine, both. The high-speed one is needed in the harvesting season - I don't get it out of season. I use the cube for blanks and once a year for a bowl of Olivier - it cuts boiled potatoes badly. Some of the girls are cutting chilled potatoes, some are steaming raw cubes. My first cache was left to my parents. She took it to herself in a large bowl. I love glasses, but I use only one of all - I only make salad dressing in them. Personally, I can't get mayonnaise in them, but always with an immersion blender. Weigh a sieve! Very necessary. Dough sheeter too. She's great. Cutters are not necessary, or rather, I used 7 mm tapes. My rolls - the kit will remain for parents there another nest. I want a wide one here. I will not take the cutters - there is a pastamashine, although the flat noodles from the kesha are better. Combine - I'll take a knife and grater - potato pancakes. Salad is easier for me with a berner. It contains only dough and pancakes. The low-speed one is not needed for nothing, and some squeak from it. I really need a blender, soups, pancake dough, smoothies, wild garlic billet. Flexy is required. Soufleika is desirable. My top attachments: dough sheeter, sieve, meat grinder, blender, food processor
j @ ne
I will join those who advise induction, or Titanium, always with a large bowl! And from the nozzles I use a "frivolous" smoothie every morning, and the lid with the spout did not even get out of the box, I was too lazy to wash it later. A full glass of smoothies is just enough for two. A food processor, a dough sheeter and a multi-chopper come in very handy. The rest of the attachments are optional.
Masha Ivanova
Girls! I duplicate my question in this thread. Is there the owner of the current or former Kenwood KM 020 of the KM series, and not of the KMM? I really need to ask a question.
Machine 023 is not interested
zvezda
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Machine 023
So 023 is the same thing, but with extended configurations like 9040 and 9060 !! The car itself is 020, now I'll see KM or KMM ,,, I don't know what the difference is, but I'll see ..




Here, the article and review can help.
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LydiaVera
Anastasi_ya, here is a video on the topic.

This is the Titanium. The boy, of course, bent that such an amount of thick dough and at such a speed. But - the motor is alive!
Masha Ivanova
zvezda, Olya! Thank you very much! But I specifically wrote that KMM 020 does not interest me at all, just like any series
023 machine is not at all interesting to clarify my question.

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