zvezda
Elena, And you didn't get out of the bowl: oI made 138g-proteins, 260-sugar, 80-water. The meringue itself turned out (you can see it in the video), but first it rose to the very top!
lenamild
Quote: zvezda
I did 138g protein, 260g sugar, 80g water.
No, everything is fine, you added a lot of water, apparently this influenced the process. Water for your amount of protein needs 23 grams.
Peter Push
Quote: lenamild
240 grams of protein, 480 grams of granulated sugar, 40 grams of water
lenamild, are these proportions in the recipe from KM? Confectioners (so in textbooks) water recommend taking 25% of the sugar weight (an increase in water is allowed, but we will also get the required 116 degrees by longer boiling the syrup). Doesn't the crust appear on the cream over time?
lenamild
Quote: Peter Push
water is recommended to take 25% of sugar weight
Sixth of the weight of the protein, I think this is correct, based on the result, I saw it in the book, the crust did not appear, but I think you can try adding a pinch of citric acid so that the cream does not crystallize during longer storage. I always added to the syrup, it is not known how the lemon will behave here. But 25% of water from sugar, I think it will not work out here, with such a small amount of water, the sugar completely dissolved, the meringue was wonderful.
atamana
lenamildthen zvezda it was necessary to take 34.5 grams of water, and not 23, as you wrote, if the weight of the protein is 138 g - 25%.
lenamild
Quote: Peter Push
Confectioners (so in textbooks) water recommend taking 25% of the sugar weight
These are confectioners, but they also cook using a different technology, And yet 6 part of the protein for this machine. Here it is not cooked into syrup, but only helps the sugar dissolve.
Peter Push
Quote: lenamild
the meringue was wonderful
lenamildThere are as many opinions as there are confectioners, it’s me about those who write books for us, I’m not a confectioner. But we are working on the result, the meringue has turned out, that's nice, and most importantly, a minimum of effort, the gaze does not run from a saucepan with boiling syrup to a bowl with stray proteins. The beauty!!!
lenamild
Quote: Peter Push
how many pastry chefs, so many opinions
Natalia, this is a specific recipe from Kenwood for this machine, before I also cooked syrup with your proportions, now everything is much easier!
shichisho
Good day. I ask the members of the forum for help. Watching km senseKVC5000T / cookingchef 096 / 9060s are those that are in advanced configuration. For the first promotion (4 tips are given, for others the price in the extended one seems more profitable, plus there are some promotional codes). Other models somehow passed by.
The situation is such that the steamer and vegetable cutter broke down in the house. And I need to quickly replenish this technique, because I already cry with my hands to chop and rub and steam in pots.
I wanted with several attachments instead of breakdowns (harvester, blender, multi-chopper, cube cutter).
My inquiries, in general, are: mince, mashed potatoes, whip porridge, chop vegetables for hot and salads, sauces and baby puree, rub cottage cheese on a casserole, a double boiler (for a baby).
I'm not particularly fond of confectionery, so once a month a cake or pies. Induction attracts for custard and cream, which the family loves. My husband loves ice cream very much, I would like to try to make homemade ice cream.
For dumplings and dumplings, it is interesting to try rolling the dough, if the good one would not refuse the tagliatelle attachment.

Is km suitable for such purposes or is it a completely different device to look for? Now you can combine everything in one device and it's attractive. But it seems like there is a BM450 bread maker for baking / kneading dough, a multicooker, and a blender with a small bowl ...There are users who believe that the main task of km is kneading and beating, and additional nozzles are more related bonuses to the dough mixer and you should not expect amazing work from them. This is true?

I'm interested in attachments: a multi-chopper, a cube cutter, a grinder, an ice cream maker, for mashed potatoes and a couple for dough. I would buy more slowly.
Induction attracts for custard dough and cream, it can be suitable as a children's double boiler and for cereals, so that the bowls do not get dirty if you want to whip the semolina.
Can I look for a harvester with similar attachments, and not km?
For me, the price tag of 50+ is quite tangible and whether this purchase is pampering, maybe just buy a new vegetable cutter and a double boiler and calm down. Advertising on them and reviews are very attractive, they cool the interest of buyers, but this is an advertisement)) I read the topics, many are very happy, but everyone has different tasks in the kitchen, someone bakes a lot, but I'm not particularly fond of ... please advise about it, otherwise I'm at a loss what to choose and whether a kitchen machine is needed.
Peter Push
lenamild , our colleague Tan_ch, a few pages earlier, reported on the harmfulness of lemon, it must be replaced with lemon juice.




Quote: shichisho
Can I look for a harvester with similar attachments, and not km? For me, the price tag of 50+ is quite tangible and whether this purchase is pampering, maybe just buy a new vegetable cutter and a double boiler and calm down.
shichisho, Olga, purchases are always palpable. KM Kenwood is not self-indulgence, it is your high-class assistant for many years. Take induction, and you will overgrow with nozzles (the husband will not rack his brains about a gift for you for a year or two). Good luck!
night_furia
shichisho, Olga, As Natalia KM Kenwood has already answered you, she is a real assistant in the kitchen. It is very convenient when there are not 33 devices in the kitchen, each with its own motor and dimensions, and nozzles separately. I have a mini chopper, a cube cutter, a dough sheeter, and an ice cream maker that interests you, and a little more delicious. I use all attachments regularly. With such pleasure, I have not fiddled with the kitchen for a long time. Yes, the price is impressive for the car, but it's worth the money. Feelings from both materials and details and from Kenwood's work are more than pleasant. I had before him QC Redmond with a cube cutter (for 3 days and even 2 days of them it worked), so I managed to compare them in hot pursuit.
As for the choice, if you can steam in a multicooker, then take a sens with nozzles for the action, if this is not possible, then take induction, otherwise you will also have to buy a double boiler)))
Fifanya
Quote: Fifanya
Girls, advise where you can buy a motor for Kenwood KM 353. Can anyone come across the purchase of spare parts for a car, give a link to the site in a personal. My old man began to yell and twitch like a wounded Kinkong, yesterday I thought he would die on Belevskaya marshmallow.
I have joy. The engine came, dad replaced it. So now my Keshenka works better than the new one.
I bought the engine on the site of spare parts in Novosibirsk, since my friend lives there, she clarified on the site, phoned her, immediately she went to buy and sent it. Hurrah
Marinuly
Fifanya, Anya, Congratulations! The updated assistant is with you again
Fifanya
Marinuly, Yes fine. New Year's Eve is just around the corner, and here such a bad thing happened. It's good that everything ended well
kartinka
Miranda, Miranda, dear, girls, if you can answer me I will be very grateful. We cannot define the km. The main question. I'm going to hit the sausage, cheese and other delights .. .. The family decided that we probably won't go to the store at all. With such a margin, it is necessary to take km. I'm reading the thread comparing 096 and 9060. So where to stop? I'm afraid that I'm completely computer 9060 ... and the hooks seem to be better in 096 .. After the hands, there is any km and without induction for happiness. so where to stop? The mixer, on your tip, has become a lifesaver, several times a day and I'm not overjoyed. (I also saw a multicooker to the dd2 shteba. Won't it bust to keshenka?)
I'll go read the branch again ...
Miranda
kartinka, a very difficult question for me.
Because I finally decided for myself that I would not do the upgrade, except that it would fall from the sky or get rich.Although I would very much like to compare in simultaneous work, since I still have questions, answers to which can only be obtained by using, and not reading the instructions and watching other people's videos, because everyone distorts or does not speak (not out of malice, but simply there is no purpose to compare).

But 9060 or 096 as the first car is a difficult question.
There is no habit of control (spin, press, press again, spin), or constant display of temperature on the screen, or some other things.

In monetary terms, the difference is only 5 thousand between full configurations, but a new one can be issued in an interest-free installment plan, which can also solve the issue. Now, if / when the price is returned to 72 thousand, then the difference will be 17 thousand and the scales will tip to 096, purely out of savings and the lack of significant advantages for this money. Now this aspect does not matter.

Probably like the first - the new is better. I say this with a squeaky heart, because I love 096, I do not consider it obsolete, but rather such a classic, proven version.

There is also a psychological moment - having chosen the previous induction, you may doubt whether you did the right thing, since a person is inclined to choose the latter (although this is in vain, but the excitement around contributes to doubts). There is also a practical moment - I think after 2-3 + - years it will be more difficult to buy attachments for a low-speed socket with an old system (although I see parts for very ancient machines in service centers). Or if they still give birth to create post-sales support in the form of a club, as is done in almost all European countries (the French club are my favorites), then for marketing reasons, they will iron the new model more, again doubting whether 096 is correct.

To be honest, I have withdrawn myself from the statements that 9060 or 096 is better. Therefore, I know 9060 only theoretically. And in the council I'm afraid not to refrain from subjectivity.

Quote: kartinka
I also saw the multicooker shteba dd2. Will she bust to keshenka?

In my opinion, it will.
But this is as for me. Not everyone will agree.
Olga VB
Quote: Miranda
In my opinion, it will.
But this is as for me. Not everyone will agree.
I will disagree.
Shteba is a good pressure cooker, its functions are completely different, not like those of KM, it can be used as a pressure cooker, as a slow cooker, as a slow cooker, and as a sous-vid, which is not superfluous for cheese-sausage.
I would choose as a basic set for the kitchen 096 and DD2 eco, or a 6-liter, if more volumes are needed, and a good hand blender. You can do without everything else with these devices.
Good luck!
kartinka
Miranda, thanks about the mulka, I asked, and I think, probably, I will refrain for now, thanks now to Kesham, some of the questions are specific
1. Heating without a twist (main - the whole proofing BUZZ - annoying? - I think about it)
2.on the button? -Adapt the extension cord (or make a button on the cord-as an option-think about it a little)
3.how useful is t140-180 *, except for popcorn nothing goes to mind. (I think too)
4. It's flimsy on a low-speed plastic plug in 9060 - that's right, it gnaws a little)
5. How sensitive are 9060 and 096? I mean overkill when not touching.
6. On 096, the display of T and time on the screen is permanent / temporary and like in gourmet? I would have liked the constant more.
in the old one, everyone praises a hook or a nozzle (whatever her name is ...)
6the edge was written, it seems like it is more convenient than a screwdriver, but as there is no backlash, probably no difference and a matter of habit
Will I buy AT now or am I flattering myself? Probably buy, in 096 I like the rolling of the car and predictability. I read here about the meringues - (as my daughter gave me a thermometer, until she bought me, I didn't even think that we were doing such ingenuity with a mixer and a saucepan) that comes out in the end - buzzing and t. It is worth a hook (but you can buy it) ... The main thing is the absence of a zch later, but 096x is enough ...
here you are confused - spin-press-spin, is it complicated? And as far as I understand, in 9060 it is also possible to cook by hand (if necessary), it turns out the same as 096, only when you learn, it's easier to press?





Olga VB, thanks, although it was the slow cooker that I hooked up with, it is already necessary to decide on the keshenka




Olga VB, the key and magic phrase - "you can do without everything else" that's what I like I don't like anything superfluous at all, a secret desire - hn? Or will keshenka knead it and it will turn out no worse in the oven?
Miranda
Quote: kartinka
And yet, how sensitive is 9060 and 096? I mean overkill when not touching.

Is that what you asked? I read it three times, did not understand.
But whatever they mean, you can touch

Quote: kartinka
Heating without a twist

Without a twist, it's really cool. The pluses are definitely.
The motor runs less, less sound.

Quote: kartinka
on the button? -adjust the extension cord (make a button on the cord-as an option-think about it a little)

This is convenient, especially if there is a dedicated socket only for the CM.
But I have few outlets, so I have a multi-socket extension cord. On the extension cord itself off. button and on each outlet off. button.

Quote: kartinka
in the old, everyone praises the hooks

Not hooks, but one hook. But this is if you know the difference, and you can buy in addition.

Quote: kartinka
Will I buy AT attachments or flatter myself?

The next couple of years - definitely buy.

Quote: kartinka
How long I read, something pulls me to 096

Don't look at me, I'm sooo subjective.
I recommend to listen to zvezdа - the only person with two cars, a more complete opinion than all of us.
kartinka
Miranda, my daughter's sewing machine has a very sensitive sensor - just hold it with her hand - she's already doing something, I can't sew on it - it's mad ...
Anchic
Quote: kartinka
I do not like anything superfluous at all, a secret desire - xp? Or will keshenka knead it and it will turn out no worse in the oven?

I have not Kesha, but another km, but nevertheless - Kesha will knead, and the oven will bake. And it tastes much better than HP. My household from KP do not like bread at all. Only as a last resort, when I cannot in the oven for time in any way. I have HP in such a hold and sometimes I bake rolls in it. It is eaten and not hummed because it is sweet
Stasya23
Good evening, dear forum users!
Now in Mvideo there are interesting offers for the Kenwood KVC5100 Kitchen Machine and the Kenwood KVC5000 Kitchen Machine ... is anyone already an active user of this device? How's your work? I have read and learned everything about the attachments, but I would like to know which bowl is preferable: glass or metal?
eye
kartinka, I'm sorry I got in, but I couldn't get past this question:
Quote: kartinka
Or will keshenka knead it and it will turn out no worse in the oven?

Away from doubts, you cannot compare with HP, I have met the dough after 096 as a relative for almost a year: to hug and cry with emotion, a completely different state of aggregation of matter, and bread from the oven is better.
kartinka
eye, after I suddenly discovered for myself that there are also the necessary devices, in addition to the necessary blanks, I even swung at hp, although I think, I'll wait - because the main thing here is kneading, and who, besides keshenka, will help better. .. Thank you
night_furia
Stasya23, I have a KVC5000 with a metal bowl. I have been using it almost every day for over a month already. Happy as an elephant. The main thing is to give such an assistant a permanent and comfortable place in the kitchen.
kartinka, regarding the presence of hp and keshenka at the same time, I can say that everything here is ambiguous, the dough, of course, will knead the cache better (I checked it). And even at first I regretted a little that I managed to grab hp six months ago, but then I came to the conclusion that hp in my household is still a necessary thing. While she kneads the dough for pizza / pies, we are busy with the filling. Plus, it is very convenient that the stove is engaged in kneading the dough and that it turns off itself after the end of the cycle, and at this time I can either go to the store, or do sports, or wash the floors and not worry that I will have to rush to the oven later to turn off. Therefore, more often the bread bakes completely hp, sometimes the kesha kneads the dough for it, and then the dough is sent to the oven, there it is already defrosted, crumpled, baked. So think about it, weigh all the pros and cons based on your situation and workload.
anna_k
I had (and still have, since not sold) Sense with a metal bowl.I liked everything very much. I would not refuse glass, as it is very beautiful.
Just keep in mind that glass will be heavier than metal.
On the other hand, probably there will be no scratches to be seen. My metal bowl did get scratched on the outside in two years.

I also really liked the removable plastic gourmet bowl. Very lightweight (three times lighter than native metal), very convenient to use as an auxiliary.
For example, I whipped the squirrels in my home, and did the rest of the dough in plastic, including rubbing the curd.
Stasya23
night_furia, anna_k, thanks for answers!

All night in a dream I tested KM)))
There were many questions to the owners:
1. Why is induction needed? (the fact is that if you just cook the soup, then there is a stove .. what kind of beast is such a KM with induction? is it simply expanded to the possibility of a multi-cooker KM, or does it have some sacred meaning that eludes me due to my inexperience?) helps in cooking?
2. I read the post 6400 .. I could not find those models about which it is said ((KVL8300S is the closest in functionality .. Did I understand correctly? I want a cup of 6.7

In general, too, I was exhausted .. If induction, then 096 or Gourmet? And if neither one nor the other, then what ?!

night_furia, and what are you cooking? And is the cup enough? I just have a big family .. I'm afraid it won't be enough
Have a look at the gourmet tips .. but there are no ice cream tips?
night_furia
Stasya23, Anastasia, not at all, the main thing is that our answers help at least something. Induction kenwood is indispensable if you need to cook something with continuous stirring (especially for a long time), heat something to a certain temperature or mix / beat something again at a certain temperature. Although I am happy with my Sense as an elephant, I will not stop repeating to others, if the means allow, take induction. As for the bowl in Sense, it may be too small for a large family (depending on what you do in it). I still use my bowl to knead the dough, beat the whites / cream, wipe the berries / cottage cheese, knead the minced meat. It was just at the stage of minced meat that it was thought that the bowls would not be enough to completely fill the 5m gut for the sausage, the amount of minced meat that fits into the bowl at a time is not enough, you need to make 2 batches, which is no longer so fun and convenient.
And the ice cream maker for Gourmet, as I understand it, 957 fits.
Ketsal
Stasya23, take a large one, in my 4.6 marshmallow bowl does not fit -0.5 portions. I think that cooking soup in KM is irrational, but semolina without lumps is great, you don't need to bother with a water bath and so on. If the budget allows, take induction. I think you can take any
VRad
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Stasya23
night_furia, Ketsal, Thanks for the clarification
But is there a fundamental difference between Gourmet and 096? To be honest, in the explanations only about the hook I understood ... (((
The equipment there differs only for this hook. And what about the set of programs and ease of management?
Ketsal
Stasya23, I have never used induction. but studying from the bushes. The difference, as I understand it, in a set of temperatures is higher in gourmet (maximum 140-180). The presence-absence of a medium-speed socket. Hook on the scale of the world revolution bullshit, buy if that. Read about the ice cream maker in the attachments - many scold. Have a nice choice
zvezda
Quote: Miranda
or do not say
Miranda! Expensive! I may not have expressed myself very accurately (but I tried .. honestly) Probably it turned out chaotic ..
I would probably still prefer 096 (maybe I'm used to, or maybe more understandable)
The temperature at 9060 is NOT ON constantly on the display, I noted this in the minuses!
I have always had problems with meringues, which is why the 9060 is just a super solution for me.
Of course I really like 9060! Who asks why induction .. to make meringues, custard, custard dough, dough itself (yeast), mashed potatoes (very convenient all at once in one container) cooking jam, especially jams. You can't remember everything at once .. maybe someone else will tell
Miranda
Quote: VRad
It was not possible to insert a photo using a radical

It's just that the codes were not correctly set, I corrected it.

Quote: Stasya23
The equipment there differs only for this hook.

Not only. Another stirring attachment that fits into a new nest and can work with a whisk, K-shaped, flexi.
firuza83
Quote: zvezda
You can't remember everything at once .. maybe someone else will tell
chocolate to heat / temper)) Good day to all happy owners of km, and to everyone who is thinking about purchasing it .. what I have become just the other day) now I have this handsome man weighing almost 14 kg in my kitchen and for me, first of all induction played a decisive role in the purchase .. working with chocolate has become an integral part of my life .. and if "someone" helps me to heat it to the required T and maintain its working T, this will greatly facilitate my life and save time) and I think it's time to whip the meringues, too, just around the corner) until I reached them .. and marshmallows, of course .. but in my old mixer with a 4.2 bowl the mass, in principle, fit) so that I will often look into the topic - read and master your new assistant ..
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
You can't remember everything at once .. maybe someone else will tell

Yes, I've already written so many times, and you won't remember right away either.
On a biscuit, I loved to beat the eggs on the heat.

Okay, in 10 + days - I will twist the new induction in any way and with passion (although the comparisons will be verbal, since I will not twist it at home), I will make my opinion. Today I also twisted a little - after 096, somewhat confusing control, but, it's also a force of habit. I kept forgetting - I pressed / spun already or I had to return, how many times I pressed what I had set. A confused thing, but we are all reasonable, I think that in a week everyone will be on the machine.

Here are some pictures.
Sense in a cut.

Kenwood Kitchen Machines
And New Year's, themed

Kenwood Kitchen Machines
Asya K
Good day .
Help with the throes of choice
Kenwood Sense with tips or 9096 induction.
I don't cook bread at home, because we eat very little of it.
A kitchen machine is needed for slicing, for making desserts (no more than once a month), for making dough (dumplings, manti)
I would also like to cook homemade ice cream for the kids.
I don’t like the silumin nozzles in Sense, I don’t like the induction that it is bulky, I’m afraid that I’ll buy it and it will stand idle with me
Is Sense good for all of this? Or is it better to take induction?
Tan_ch
Quote: Asya K
I don't like induction that it is bulky
Asya, at first it seemed to me that way too, but now I'm used to it, the car stands sideways (I push it when I need it and unfold it) and it turns out very compactly.
j @ ne
Asya Kif there is a financial opportunity - take induction, the same desserts are easier to make. If the money is not permissible - Sence. You will be glad to any car, both are cool.
Asya K
Thanks for the advice
Stasya23
Thank you all for your advice !!!
I will take Gourmet!
Also interested in the question of tempering chocolate ...
Just like in the movies ...
"Shouldn't we aim at William, do you understand, our Shakespeare?"

The main thing is to buy before NG .. Like a gift ..
Do I understand correctly what you need to order here?
/ cookingchef
kartinka
Miranda,
Quote: Miranda
Okay, in 10 + days - I will spin the new induction in any way and with passion
I went into the bushes .... a lot of work, no time to think, your opinion will wait
eye
Quote: Miranda
On a biscuit, I loved to beat eggs on the heat.
now - that's the only way!
Miranda
Quote: Stasya23
Also interested in the question of tempering chocolate ...
Just like in the movies ...

Tempering is possible in both inductions, since these are temperatures of 45 + -1-2 degrees, but not more than 50.

Quote: Stasya23
Do I understand correctly what you need to order here?
cookingchef

Yes

Quote: kartinka
I went into the bushes .... a lot of work, no time to think, your opinion will wait

The main thing is to be in time before NG, otherwise you never know what will happen to the prices later, and for the holidays as everyone leaves, it seems that he ordered the 25th, and they will bring the 10th

Quote: ok
now - that's the only way!

Because the result is awesome!

Twig
Last year, during the holidays, there was just a very good offer with the accrual of 7% of the purchase amount with bonuses, for which you could add. Take the nozzle.
Miranda
Twig, then in another store
He renamed himself ken- (he has a discount card that many on the forum have, you can always ask)

And then cookingchef appeared. Because the company's policy is to sell induction separately.

Now 3 stores and all official.
For induction (and nozzles) - only
And two with all Kenwood products (the rest are not induction machines, kettles, meat grinders, coffee makers, etc.), including attachments - ken- and

Cookingchef and Ken-shop have the same phone numbers in contacts.
kartinka
Girls, I didn't quite understand - on YAM and on some others - the price tag is 124 thousand, I don't understand something - why is there such a difference in price from a cookie chef, 2 times
Miranda
kartinka, this question is asked about once a month or two, so I will answer briefly - because the hucksters. 2 thousand cu That is, the car has never been worth anywhere.
Stasya23
Miranda, Thank you!!!!!
LudMila
Made meringue according to the Italian meringue recipe on an automatic program. I liked the Swiss one more! And the output, and taste, and in time, the process in Italian is almost 2 times longer.
She baked in the oven on the same mode.
I decided that I would do the Italian one if I needed a protein custard cream, and for the bezeshek - Swiss.

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