Olga VB
Quote: lenamild
Hello, what should it be in your experience?
lenamild, Elena, We have threads on the forum on mixers and blenders. Therefore, it is better to contact such a question there.
And therefore, I will remove my answer under the spoiler, and then delete it along with your question.

I now have a triangular projection, like this:
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And in the old one - rectangular, like this:
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I just don't know what kind of flask is in the middle in this photo from the tyrnet, I don't have one.
There the shape of the leg is not all visible, but understandable.
Here, in this photo it is similar, but in mine there are fewer teeth, only 3 slots.
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I think that any leg of the Bamiksov type should do a great job with mayonnaise.

Regarding programs for yeast dough, including butter dough.
It is better to add both fats and salt after preliminary kneading, - in fact, just moistening all the flour, and rest, and rest should be at least 15-30 minutes.
Those. not only butter sweat, but also salt. And the rest before that is longer.
I knead for at least 12 minutes, otherwise the dough does not turn out to be silk.
And you need to knead more baked goods. Easter cakes - at least 20 minutes, if not more.

So the automatic programs in the new CM do not inspire me yet. But this is an absentee opinion.
I will also listen to the owners, how other programs work
tyumenochka
lenamild, then that some of the stages can be skipped, I understood that.
But so that the machine, for example, after the proofing stage itself goes to the kneading stage, without my participation? I understood from the instructions this is not possible. And Olga, (zvezda), also confirmed this above.
lenamild
As I understand it, all the stages are set manually, it is easier to do without programs, over time all recipes will work out to automatism, and with and without heating, in fact, these programs are only like a cheat sheet at first, if you figure it out, they do not work automatically , as in another technique, for example, in an automatic coffee machine, the button is pressed and ready, or in a multicooker, here only instructions are in stages.
tyumenochka
Quote: Olga VB
So the automatic programs in the new CM do not inspire me yet.
I agree with you, they definitely don't inspire for the test, it's easier to do it manually. I did not consider the rest.
lenamild
Quote: Olga VB
I think that any leg of the Bamiksov type should do a great job with mayonnaise.
Thank you very much for your answer, I have just such a look and mayonnaise works great, but I haven't even tried another form, I have to try, is there a difference. I thought it was just a matter of power.




Quote: tyumenochka
I agree with you, they definitely don't inspire for the test, it's easier to do it manually. I did not consider the rest.
For the dough, of course, but for custard and Italian meringue, it would be very useful.
zvezda
Quote: lenamild
, but for the custard and Italian meringue
there you still need to be near the car. I don't have time to do ... I'll get to them
Marysya27
Hello everyone and thank you very much for sharing your experience


I took time off early from work today, went to a training master class on the new Cooking Chef model. At the end, I remembered the words of the clever cat from the fairy tale "In the land of unlearned lessons": "No one will take care of you as much as you do."
If I hadn't started reading the topic, everything would have been fine ... And so ... To look, of course, it was useful, but almost immediately it became clear that they were going "on the knurled" and talk about previous models: "There is heating, stirring and more button where you can configure different parameters and programs. " There were no more clarifications, except for one thing: that much still needs to be understood. Next, they cooked in the mode of manual control t * and the stirring mode.
Which seemed interesting. (I haven't read the whole topic yet, maybe this is already known)
one.If you turn on the intensive stirring mode on the heating, then when dialing 60 *, the machine will automatically slow down the stirring rate. If you want to keep stirring intensive, you need to hold down the t * button again.
2. If you need to cook more (2-3 servings) of sauce (for example, béchamel), then you can, in order to avoid splashing (splashing), take the liquid for one portion, and all other ingredients for 2-3 servings, and then at the end of cooking bring to the desired consistency.
3. Situation:

Quote: zvezda
... you still have to be near the car !!! ...
and some others, explain as a safety net, the company's concern for the consumer (convenience, choice) in order to avoid any injury.

Tanya ***
Girls thank you very much for the forum! Thanks to you, I also got an assistant Kenwood 096. Initially, the plans were Sense with attachments, but after rereading all the topics, 096 won, and I am very glad that I took induction. I use it for two weeks, I cooked according to Miranda's recipes: eclairs and my mother's apple pie are just a delight, as well as whole wheat wheat bread - the author of Anise is also a good recipe. In general, clever girls, thank you for sharing your impressions and recipes!
Marinuly
Tanya ***, congratulations on your irreplaceable assistant!
kartinka
Every day I look at the topic, in parallel I read the previous posts. I successfully entered the forum ... I am very interested in testing the new induction and comparing it with the old one. Questions arise, but so far I can't even formulate it clearly. You all speak the same language, but it's very interesting, even the choice has stopped. There are so many things to think about in advance, taking into account the review of recipes.
Tanya ***
Marinuly, Thank you ! Now I'm looking at the multicooker ..
Fifanya
Girls, advise where you can buy a motor for Kenwood KM 353. Can anyone come across the purchase of spare parts for a car, give a link to the site in a personal. My old man began to yell and twitch like a wounded Kinkong, yesterday I thought he would die on Belevskaya marshmallow.
Miranda
Fifanya, I ran through foreign services, so that I didn't find the motor, only the gearbox.

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But maybe, according to the gearbox code, there is something more for your machine - KW715257. Google it. Or call our service and ask.

Fifanya
Miranda, And the phone number of the service Where can I see it?
atamana
Fifanya, on kenwoodworld com search service.
Miranda
Fifanya, I looked in German.

We do not have a convenient service that would have a website with various spare parts, where you could choose a model of a car or a nozzle, and see what details are there.

You can only call our service. Or a search, knowing the part code, will give 1-3 results, and then, in 3 out of 10 cases, since very little is sold by parts. They fix it normally, and even quickly, but to buy something, having previously chosen online - unfortunately, no.

Bijou
Quote: tyumenochka
the machine still kneads for 5 minutes, and then the same proofing for 1 hour at a temperature of 28C, and the induction power on the proofer is already 350W (instead of 250W on the traditional one). Then the same workout.
Yes, it cannot be (because it can never be!)
At 250-300 watts on a conventional induction cooker, a four-liter pot of soup boils under a lid with confidence!
tyumenochka
Bijou, these are data from the instructions for machines with induction KCC90 ...
lenamild
Quote: Bijou
Yes, it cannot be (because it can never be!)
At 250-300 watts on a conventional induction cooker, a four-liter pot of soup boils under a lid with confidence!
Biju, in this case, is the speed of mixing, but not heating.
VRad
Help me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Cook chef 9040.
I am kneading the dough. Settings: temperature 28, time 20 minutes. In the process, I decide that after 15 minutes the dough is properly kneaded. I turn off the mixer. I click on the temperature icon, turn the knob to the off position, confirm by pressing the enter button. I press the speed regulator - this is just in case (the display goes out), I raise the upper part, remove the hook, etc.
I lower the upper part, press the speed control, including the display. The display shows that none of the parameters have been set.
I'm going to set the proofing parameters.I click on the temperature icon, set t 28, press the enter button. According to my ideas, the fan should turn on and the countdown should begin. Nothing happens. Then I click on the time setting button. I start to turn the knob - the temperature value disappears, off appears. I finish setting the time, confirm and return to setting the temperature. The display shows the set temperature and time, but the countdown does not start and the fan does not work.
Then I raise the temperature to 40, confirm and everything starts working !!! There is a countdown, the fan turns on. I drop the temperature quickly. The machine continues to operate properly.
Perhaps the reset of previously set parameters does not occur immediately and you need to wait a while to set new ones?
lenamild
Quote: VRad
The display shows the set temperature and time, but the countdown does not start and the fan does not work.
So I have the same thing, I had to defend in the traditional mode, turning on stage 3, there the temperature is set to 28 degrees by default, and everything works. When we figure it out, the question is, the instructions do not describe a lot of things, for example, how to exit the program, by pressing which buttons.
VRad
Quote: lenamild
how to exit the program, by pressing which buttons.
That may be the question. The day before yesterday I had the same story, I just don't remember what I did, what I clicked on. And at some point, the display showed something like 10 minutes and the countdown started. Probably, these 10 minutes are left from the previous installation.
In general, you need to try and understand 🙃

Quote: lenamild
including stage 3,
I still do everything in manual mode. Somehow these preset programs do not attract me.
I am trying to master the dough on kenwood, which I did well in a bread maker. Not very successful yet.
Interestingly, and questions about recipe subtleties in Kenwood in this thread to ask or go to the Admin?
lenamild
Quote: VRad
Probably, these 10 minutes are left from the previous installation.
What I just didn’t click on, but I can say with confidence, all programs are reset to zero when switching from one to another, but how they work is not yet entirely clear, here someone wrote that it’s not necessary to turn on heating during proofing at 9060 turn on the speed, this is not the case, you can set the temperature, but neither heating nor the countdown will start, this is for sure, at stage 3, when proving the dough, the program asks to turn on the speed and only then it starts heating the bowl and the timer works. And that no one writes anything about their experience of using automatic programs in the new Kenwood Gourmet machines, maybe something would have been clear already.

Quote: VRad
I'm doing everything in manual mode so far.
This is where my dough turns out to be excellent, I have had Kenwood Major for 6 years, it all depends on the recipe and kneading time, I tried to make American toast according to the program, it seemed to me that it took little time to knead, so I kneaded all five minutes, and then turned on the program, the bread turned out wonderful.
VRad
Quote: lenamild
someone wrote that to turn on heating during proofing at 9060, you do not need to turn on the speed, this is not the case, you can set the temperature, but neither heating nor the countdown will start, this is for sure
I went and tried it. I set t 28, confirmed by pressing, the heating turned on, the time started. She turned off the temperature, the heating stopped, but there was no time counting. Stopped after being turned off by pause.
By the way, the speed control button in the instructions is called "pause button", that is, it obviously pauses the process, but does not turn it off and, therefore, does not remove the settings.
Although, I stopped the direct countdown. I went and performed the same operation with a countdown. Also stopped after pressing pause.
zvezda
Quote: lenamild
that no one writes anything about their experience of using automatic programs in new machines Kenwood Gourmet
I wrote. The dough turns out well. Your 28 gr does not turn on, because the machine will not turn on the temperature lower than in the room. This is written in the instructions, but apparently from some meaning. It is necessary to check empirically.
Made a choux pastry - great!
If you compare 096 and 9060, I really do not like that the new model does not have a temperature reading on the display (unlike 096), only the set temperature is shown there.
I can't figure out which one to sell

Well, they have already answered. Perhaps the bowl was already warmed up more?
Where is the speed button?
VRad
I continued my experiments. I turned on the device. Showed t 31. I installed 28, turned it on, the process started. She turned everything off, turned it on again - silence. Raised the temperature - it worked.
I dare to assume that the heating does not turn on if the temperature of the heating element is higher or equal to the set value. Or it may turn on after some time, for example, after half an hour (see the beginning of this post)

Quote: zvezda
the machine will not turn on the temperature lower than the room temperature!
The instructions are slightly different. It says that she cannot drop the temperature lower than in the room.

Quote: zvezda
where is the speed button ??
The handle with which the revolutions are regulated. She's also a pause button. I just called it the cruise control button, sorry. Pts difficult. Handle and button at the same time

Quote: zvezda
no temperature reading on display
No, there is. For me, for example, at a given value of 29, the display showed 30. That is, I think (I did not check) that we set some temperature, it shows the actual temperature after reaching it and turning off the inscription "heating".
Marysya27
Quote: zvezda
If you compare 096 and 9060, I really do not like that the new model does not have a temperature reading on the display (unlike 096), only the set temperature is shown there.
I am not yet an assistant with advice, but at the master class, the lady showed on the display an intermediate heating from the set t *. How she did it I will not say exactly. It seems that the t * (small) button was pressed. I will clarify.
Miranda
Quote: lenamild
And that no one writes anything about their experience of using automatic programs in the new Kenwood Gourmet machines

Few users of the new machine.

Quote: lenamild
here someone wrote that to turn on heating during proofing at 9060, you do not need to turn on the speed, this is not the case, you can set the temperature, but neither heating nor the countdown will start, this is for sure

A popular German girl, who owned 096 for a long time and began to own Gourmet, pointed out this feature in a comparative review, and that such a new opportunity to turn on heating without working the twist pleased her.

Maybe you haven't figured it out yet?
lenamild
Quote: Miranda
Maybe you haven't figured it out yet
Miranda, but for sure, she buzzes, but does not spin, I took this sound for stirring, but at the same time, for some reason, the program suggests choosing a speed, without this the induction does not turn on, this confused me, I'll go try again.
VRad
Quote: Miranda
the ability to turn on the heating without the work of the twist pleased her.
Definitely. I am frustrating the dough with heating without a twist.

Quote: Miranda
AWAT is an extended marking, they have moved away from it, but it can be found on boxes. Shortened to AT - highlighted in black.

647001 - 001 is also an old postscript.
Miranda, what is AW20010006. Sieve attachment, sold in M ​​Video
marina__
Hello! Girls, help with the choice. I was going to make a purchase with delivery from Germany, and for some reason the Titanium XL is not being taken from there. In terms of components / quality / reliability, is it better to take titanium 4.6 liters or Elite Chef 6.7? I honestly can not find a complete description of Kenwood anywhere - some advertising calls, and from which nozzles, etc.
zvezda
Quote: Marysya27
intermediate from the given t *
Yes, it will show if pressed, but for a couple of seconds. Although I may not have figured it out yet
Today I made a soup with meatballs, everything is fine. You just need to document everything yourself
I just can't decide on meringues, there, according to the instructions, you immediately need to load proteins and sugar and water - it's kind of scary. Maybe someone will tell me?
Prank
zvezda, Olga, please tell me, how would you rate the hooks in both machines, is there a difference? Would you like to make a crochet video for posterity?
zvezda
Two at once? Or .. and how can I remove the whole batch? I did not notice a big difference between them, although with the same quantity of products in 9060 I added a little flour (maybe it would have done that, but I judged by the bun)
I made the Swiss meringue. Hurrah! It turned out just super Above all praise. I will expose the photo later
Peter Push
Quote: marina__
Girls, help with the choice. I was going to make a purchase with delivery from Germany, and for some reason the Titanium XL is not being taken from there. In terms of components / quality / reliability, is it better to take titanium 4.6 liters or Elite Chef 6.7? I honestly can not find a complete description of Kenwood anywhere - some advertising calls, and from which nozzles, etc.
marina__, from Germany there are weight restrictions (it was up to 20kg). In terms of components / quality / reliability, you can take KM with any bowl, its size does not affect / quality / reliability in any way, the equipment is already your choice, and it is better to take a bowl of 6.7 liters, it seems to be large, the work is the very thing, Believe me, but this is my opinion, you decide. In Kenwoods KVL8470 (8460, 8320) S Chef XL Titanium attachments hook, whisk, K-shaped stainless steel power 1700W, bowl illumination. In KM Kenwood KVL6320 (6370) S Chef XL Elite, the attachments are the same, but the power is already 1400W and there is no illumination for the bowl. In KM Kenwood KVL6000 (6370) S Chef XL Sense there are already nozzles made of silumin and a power of 1200W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the back, the bowl is without handles. In KM Kenwood 4170 (4140) S, nozzles are made of silumin, power 1200W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the front, the bowl is without handles. It's all about the 6.7L KM. For bowls 4,6 - КМ Kenwood KVC 7320 (7300) S Chef Titanium, hook attachments, whisk, K-shaped stainless steel power 1500W, bowl illumination. In KM Kenwood KVС 5320 S Chef XL Elite, stainless steel attachments, power is already 1200W, there is no illumination of the bowl. In KM Kenwood KVC 3150 (3110) S Chef XL Sense, nozzles are made of silumin, the power is already 1000W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the front, the bowl is without handles. Good luck in your choice!
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
It turned out just super

According to a given program, without changing anything?
On 096 also excellent meringues come out.
lenamild
Quote: zvezda
I made the Swiss meringue. Hurrah! It turned out just super Above all praise. I will expose the photo later
Olga, what is the recipe? I also did it, but only Italian and without water, at first it seemed that they would flow after jigging, but during baking they increased 3-4 times, like eclairs, you could fill from the inside, but I think I needed water, but it was strange to mix everything together at once, I was afraid to dilute the proteins. And the yeast dough turns out good according to the program, there is enough time for kneading, it develops gluten well. And no matter how difficult it is, having understood the principle of operation of one program, you will understand the others.
marina__
Quote: Peter Push

marina__, from Germany there are weight restrictions (it was up to 20kg). In terms of components / quality / reliability, you can take KM with any bowl, its size does not affect in any way /
quality / reliability, the equipment is already your choice, and it is better to take a bowl of 6.7 liters, it seems to be large, the work is the most, believe me, but this is my opinion, you decide. In Kenwoods KVL8470 (8460, 8320) S Chef XL Titanium attachments hook, whisk, K-shaped stainless steel power 1700W, bowl illumination. In KM Kenwood KVL6320 (6370) S Chef XL Elite, the attachments are the same, but the power is already 1400W and there is no illumination for the bowl. In KM Kenwood KVL6000 (6370) S Chef XL Sense there are already nozzles made of silumin and a power of 1200W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the back, the bowl is without handles. In KM Kenwood 4170 (4140) S, nozzles are made of silumin, power 1200W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the front, the bowl is without handles. It's all about the 6.7L KM. For bowls 4,6 - КМ Kenwood KVC 7320 (7300) S Chef Titanium, hook attachments, whisk, K-shaped stainless steel power 1500W, bowl illumination. In KM Kenwood KVС 5320 S Chef XL Elite, stainless steel attachments, power is already 1200W, there is no illumination of the bowl. In KM Kenwood KVC 3150 (3110) S Chef XL Sense, nozzles are made of silumin, the power is already 1000W, the bowl is not illuminated, the head lifting lever is on the front, the bowl is without handles. Good luck in your choice!
Thanks for the clarification! The head is spinning from the choice ...I understand that the size of the thicket does not affect the quality and reliability) I mean the titanium and elite series are equally reliable? I saw the difference in power. I would like to understand, since the nozzles in the Elite are also made of stainless steel, the combine itself, with the exception of power, is also all made of metal like titanium? I have a dilemma - titanium but 4.6 or elite but 6.7. I myself, too, for a large bowl, but I am ready to sacrifice it for the sake of completely metal nozzles and a combine. Sorry for the confusion, I kind of explained
zvezda
Quote: Miranda
According to a given program, without changing anything?
On 096 also excellent meringues come out.
It didn’t work out with 096, but here it’s great right away!

Quote: lenamild
Olga, what is the recipe
My own recipe. Now the next step is Italian, but I want it with water.
Peter Push
Quote: marina__
I have a dilemma - titanium but 4.6 or elite but 6.7.
marina__, here all the machines I listed above and Titanium and Elite and Sens are all metal - both the body and almost all the insides, they are given a 5-year warranty (this is with us, in Ukraine). I would do that, I would take Kenwood KVL8320 S Chef XL Titanium, there are 5 attachments for the planetary nest + blender, lighting, and then gradually bought the necessary attachments. KM Kenwood KVL6320 (6370) S Elite power 1400 (in my KMM 770 - 1200, but in a year with a little work I did not see that little) and hook attachments, whisk, K-shaped stainless steel (nozzles for soufflé and flexi nozzles) , at 6370 + meat grinder. Decide for yourself. Good luck and the best specimen!
VRad
Quote: VRad
Miranda, what is AW20010006. Sieve attachment, sold in M ​​Video
I myself found the answer to the question in the topic about working with nozzles.
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
It didn't work out with 096
I did it according to this recipe in the first week I bought it - and everything is fine since then.

🔗

Quote: zvezda
Your recipe.
By the way, I didn't do it with water.
What's the recipe?

Quote: VRad
I myself found the answer to the question in the topic about working with nozzles.
That's right!
Nozzles are discussed in the topic about nozzles.

There is also a search on the forum
And if you type AW20010006, it will give you a large number of answers in the topic about the attachments. This question is asked about once a month.
zvezda
Quote: Miranda
What's the recipe?
The classic is the ratio of protein to sugar (I do it with the powder just ground so that it doesn't get moisture) 1: 2 by weight I only do. I uploaded the photo .. I'll edit it, I'll post it. Prada, I fell asleep and they cracked me, and since they were painted in a light green color, then the look is not very good. Cooked at 7:30 am
VRad
I slowly put on my typewriter. I bought a souffleika, a food processor on Avito and today at M Video sieve plastic for the chef. Fitted perfectly!
Well, that seems to be all. I don't need anything else for complete happiness.
Experimenting slowly. Most questions with the test. I'm used to a bread maker. Put it out and take it out. And now, after reading the forum, I'm like a centipede, I don't know which leg to move
Miranda
Quote: VRad
Well, that seems to be all. I don't need anything else for complete happiness.

Oh oh, I would not renounce
I had a food processor and a blender in the kit, and it seemed to me that apart from a cube cutter (there was Bosch, and before him Polaris, and I got used to cutting cubes in 2 minutes) I would never want anything

With the dough (for bread and buns), who read smart people, I took it as the main rule - mix dry and liquid without fanaticism and leave for autolysis for a minute. 20 minutes, then just add the fat and salt and knead well. And now what dry liquid, what fats and other additives such as seeds, bran, onions, etc. - to choose from. And proofing and kneading, too, a different number and duration, depending on.

VRad
Quote: Miranda
now that dry liquid, what fats and other additives such as seeds, bran, onions, etc. - to choose from. And proofing and kneading are also different quantity and duration, depending on.
Here, here, this is the problem. Twice I made matnakash from a fairly liquid dough (500 g flour 350 water - this recipe is also on the forum). In HP everything turned out great, but here there is no that splendor and on the second day it was completely tasteless.I sin for the time of proofing, but I tried to bring the mode as close as possible to my Panasonic, fortunately, I found a topic on the forum dedicated to the time of strokes in it.
But nothing . I will try further.




Oh, another question. I didn't get a crumb cookie with a K-shaped nozzle. Large pieces dangled around the perimeter. Maybe there weren't enough cookies? 200 gr. speed changed in every way.
Gulya
Hello everybody! Well, take it into my ranks))) after much deliberation I took the same 9060s. The courier just brought it, I unpack it and here's the question: I opened the box, there is a foam lid with two notches, one of them contains an instruction, a book is something else, and the other notch contains nothing. Is that how it should be? Kenwood Kitchen Machines
Margot
Quote: Gulya
I opened the box, there is a foam cover with two recesses
I had the same
Gulya
Quote: Margot

I had the same
Thank you, I went further to disassemble
atamana
Gulya, are there any books in the box? maybe they should lie there?

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