Kenwood Kitchen Machines

Colleagues, take to your ranks

As an entrance fee, I share a life hack: if you analyze the sale of spare parts in service centers (I almost immediately found two sites in my city), then sometimes you can assemble a nozzle from separate elements much cheaper than the full box version.

So, I really wanted the AT320A multi-chopper for my induction. At the officials, even with discounts in Kiev, it costs 1200-1500 UAH (in terms of 2600-3300 rubles). In one of the service centers, I managed to freely buy a knife group for 395 UAH. and two jars (they are included in the set exactly 2 pcs., I have enough of them for now) for 195 UAH. Total: 590 UAH Profit - at least two-fold savings.

Well, by tradition, to wash a purchase - tink!

[Cos]

Cos, they bought me a second knife there
But this only works with a chopper. But buying in parts, for example, a cube cutter, is more expensive.

Welcome

Both I and I will soon acquire 96 Kenwood)))) hurray))) I have been saving up for it for a whole year.))) On Kenwood. BT ordered. Got wet on the gift scale worked. My cache is going. Will be home soon. )))

[Miranda]

Miranda, we must constantly hope for the best and free)) In the first SC, for example, even the prices for the knife group were set so that it would be cheaper to buy a whole attachment. And in the second there was such a ball. Suddenly, in some seedy SC and a free cube cutter in parts lies and misses



cake machine, Great, congratulations! A gorgeous thing. Have you already prepared a pedestal for the hero?

[cake machine]

cake machine, Hurrah! An end to the agony of choice and decision

[Cos]

Cos, Thank you! Yeah. The whole tabletop is ready)))
Miranda, Yes ... The agony of choice was generally short-lived. It's really scary to communicate with him. A complicated apparatus.))) Well, nothing, we will find a common language)))

[cake machine]

cake machine, it is at first glance difficult
The first days with apprehension and aspiration. And then cut bread like a knife - everything is quick, easy.

Well yes. Matter of habit)))

[cake machine]

cake machine, Congratulations! It's hard not to make friends with Kesha, now I don't even know how I used to live without him.

[Cos]

Cos, cake machine, HURRAH!!!! Congratulations! !!! SUCCESS !!! We are waiting for recipes

Tell me, are there any of the most obvious or frequent problems with an induction machine? What is the first thing to look for when buying or buying? I did not find information about their breakdowns on the website and on the Internet.



If everyone is silent, this only confirms the reliability of the technique)
Tell me then, what obvious signs on the machine can there be, if only a bowl was possibly used? I suspect that the car could be a demo or display case

[verchik]

Tell me then, what obvious signs on the machine can there be, if only a bowl was possibly used? I suspect that the car could be a demo or display case
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verchik, the car is so packed into a box that only a magician can re-fold it. Also, all the components of the machine cannot be used and then rubbed to the original state (or, again, a magician).

[verchik]

verchik, if nozzles for the planetary socket were used, then on the pins of the nozzles themselves (hook, whisk, ...) there is a dark horizontal strip, if you used a high-speed socket, then there is a round trace on the shiny surface.

Well, if I knew all the important information before buying a car, that you need to know not only which device to choose, I would definitely pay attention to how everything should be packed, otherwise, without paying attention to this, the projectile hit right into the funnel) Everything fits together to the fact that this is a display case))
They brought me the device as agreed Kenwood 096 from Italy and its price is $ 670. The first one bought a godfather and did not face what I was. She has a completely new unit! Everything in the box was packed, so to speak, more compactly than in the unpacking video and without a lot of foam. The box and its serial number of the car do not correspond to each other) (I already read and checked this a week after purchase ((() on the lid itself when you turn it over there are scuffs, there are no marks from the attachments. There are no traces of use on the head itself). The bowl and trunks, yes, it is clear that they were not new and they were replaced for me, and there was not one screw on the metal attachment (head) from the food processor, I had to replace it (the seller himself said he did not come across this and said that he would say about it there that they will answer him.) And the torment of doubt and anguish does not leave (I waited and dreamed about this device for so long and so I got caught.

[verchik]

verchik, 096 for 670? With a blender and food processor?
Amazing! Because the new one in Italy officially doesn't cost that much.

Now, out of interest, I googled their office. shops, they have there three versions of the 90th series with configuration options - 094, 096 and 098. The cheapest - 899.99 euros for a promotion in the media market. The most expensive configuration option is 1200.

But I saw that they already had a new induction. I didn't google about her anymore. But if the Italians are like the French, then the market for used 90 series in the next six months will be large.

Not claiming that you have b. at., because it is impossible to diagnose by correspondence. But such a price for a new one can only be if the store closes and sells off the leftovers at a large discount.

Itself surprised by the price. Yes, a complete set. Although in Ukraine it is now possible to buy officially, with a 5-year warranty and weights for $ 870. But if I only took one from this person, this is one thing, I immediately thought about a fraudster, but when there are several people and everything is fine with them, then this is my luck. Although he offered me a refund due to the current situation. It seems like he takes it not through shops, but through officials, or something. Earnings are assured that the minimum. I thought that if I took the money and if I didn't buy it right away, then all of them would definitely find use and I would be left completely without a car. I still hope for the reliability of the technique! It was released by number at the end of September 2016. On the head, motor and other places there are no traces of "wear", so to speak, abrasions and traces of products. But as I realized that I had such a situation with her, I did not even approach her for two days (And this is despite all that I am very meticulous in the choice of equipment! And that's how it happened (I sent a request to the service, about possible warranty service equipment in our territory that was brought and presented to me) I'm waiting)

[verchik]

verchik, the technique is really good, reliable.
I wouldn't be worried. I also have a showcase sample, everything is ok.

[Miranda]

Miranda, this is for you!! Can I kiss you?)) Thank you !! It's like reaching out a hand! After all, I have already devoured myself all to the holes in my insides))) And if so, but like this !!?)) And you could pay extra and buy it normally, but again, and you need to find extra $ 200))
He also said, about the box, that they are taking them across several borders and on each of them they open, look, etc. Perhaps he indicates that they are taking them as second-hand, and therefore the price is acceptable!
I would ask the administrator on the first page for those gifted and lucky like me) to add instructions on the first page on what to look for when buying and unpacking a car!

[verchik]

verchik, I watched videos of unpacking, etc.
What the showcase machine identified by a completely different package - for steam, the piece was not in the bowl, and a K-shaped nozzle was inserted.

But that the machine was not used, it was clear from the fact that a piece of paper hung on a chain on the handle of the bowl, all the other attachments were packed, shone, and there was also such a sound when you slide your finger over the metal, only in a super-new one. It was evident that nothing was worn on the nests. That is, the car really just stood there, the maximum was to raise and lower its head.They didn't even put a blender for beauty, it was perfectly packed, like in the video, and shone.

Very difficult b. at. to make the technique look unused, even after washing and rubbing.

And they don’t sort out under the display case, so that the most problematic option is delivered, they take the first car they come across and that's it.

She could not part with Kesha, she took him with her to the dacha. We use it every day, I'm not overjoyed !!! Half of the trunk took, however, with attachments, but it's worth it.
So I decided to buy a meat grinder attachment at the local Mvideo. The number is AT950A. Tell me, is this attachment suitable for 096 Kenwood? It seems that the letters and numbers coincide, only the last letter A confuses. Maybe this is the marking of the aluminum metal?

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, will do!

It's just interesting then it turns out, if the device is put up for testing or use, then how do they get on sale? They probably write off such a technique or not?

[verchik]

verchik, everywhere it is different.
But most often they sell at a large discount or donate to charity.

Now, if you look at my particular case, then I got the impression that someone is cunning and just replaced their used bowl with a new one. Since all other parts are brand new. Well, I don’t know. I reproach myself that it is my own fault! But now there will be a lesson for me! When buying something, you need to approach carefully not only the choice, but also the purchase, inspection of all the details and nuances !!

[verchik]

verchik, And you did not buy from Olga / Vitaly, by chance, did you buy at the OLH?

Even before the purchase, I called the hotline, and I was immediately told that there was no international guarantee.
What is interesting is when you ask our officials whether this five-year warranty is full (sometimes it is full - with the replacement of all warranty parts at the expense of the SC, and it happens that after a certain period only free work is guaranteed, and the parts themselves are at the expense of the buyer), so so they honestly admit that 24 months will be written in the coupon, and everything else "can be verbally confirmed to you on the hotline." It is clear that they will confirm anything they want to me, but what they really say in 2 years in the service center, God forbid what happens, is another question.Therefore, the vaunted five-year warranty for me immediately ceased to be a decisive factor.

[Cos]

Cos, Yes, they have!

[LisaNeAlisa]

LisaNeAlisa, Thank you! They'll bring it tomorrow!

[verchik]

verchikWell, I also took from them, however, I had to wait almost a month and a half, since there was a queue and a lot of holidays.

Everything was packed not at all in the factory, but I myself asked Vitaly to open the box and check the operability before the meeting, since the previous car, which was intended for me, was damaged during transportation and he was sending it back. Here on the forum they wrote earlier what to look for: listen to the motor at all speeds, heating, serial numbers, equipment, tags on the nozzles and bowl, etc. They patiently gave me all this to check, found no problems and took it away. I put everything back in the box myself - it turned out that this was not such an unrealistic task as they wrote above

I have been operating from the first day in different modes. As I already wrote, I bought a multi-shredder in the service center for half the price (if you also want to, I will give you a phone) - a great thing! The attachments did not even have to be adjusted: one egg whites easily, kneads the dough perfectly, warms, interferes. At first, however, the thermal protective casing did not sit very tightly on the head, but it seems to rub on the sly and no longer falls from the draft. take it. Otherwise, pah-pah, it's a sin to complain.

Regarding the price, they explained that they only carry this model and take it almost directly from the factory according to the knurled scheme, and for a long time (it turned out when I asked to bring the 94th model and another set of nozzles instead of the 96th - it turned out that other options are impossible due to the complexity of the explanation in Italian, I had to take 96). In general, the impression of the seller is very pleasant, at least I would not be able to suspect them of dishonesty.

They are really being transported from Italy, because.recipe book in Italian. Moreover, the selection of recipes corresponds to the national cuisine and is well adapted specifically for induction. Our (Russian and Ukrainian) books look very sad against this background. I can directly see how they catch sea devil in the Dnieper ...

What exactly confuses you in your bowl? I seemed to carefully read all the messages, but I still did not understand. Sorry if I missed it. And that's all, I found it. Yes, you really have some kind of misunderstanding. I hope everything will be better.

[Cos]

Cos, I doubt something about "straight from the factory." On new cars, there are no scuffs, etc. ... Most likely, after all, some discounted cars ... Moreover, you understand that people are not engaged in charity work, but also earn something on this ...

[vis]

vis, It is not excluded. Although in such quantities as Vitaly brings them, I don't even know where to find them. It is unlikely that he prowls all over Italy and collects them in shops. Well, the cost, you understand, even in our countries is quite noticeably different, what can we say about the difference with the cost. All these promotional companies (in our country, for example, the officials put about 30 pieces in different culinary schools in order to teach chefs to be good), plus the content of the training center, free master classes (and this is rent, repairs, products, employees), printing books, services of local service centers - all this is already included in the price and has a considerable share in it. So the version with a purchase at the factory and the benefit of a small margin with a large number of sales, I think, still has a right to life. Or maybe I console myself so

I also suffered for a long time, making a decision. But when I asked about the features of the warranty, I realized that the saved $ 250 in case of a breakdown would not be a pity to pay for repairs, and in case of flawless operation, they will become a pleasant bonus for buying the necessary attachments.

At third speed, just like everyone else's, the buzz changes a little. Today I turned on induction for the first time! I am very confused by the sound. Should it be flat?

[Cos]

Cos, maybe these are cars from repair. In what, in fact, there is nothing terrible if some parts were replaced with new ones. And small abrasions will appear very quickly during operation in any case. As for possible breakdowns, in any case you can't guess, any equipment, even the most reliable and newest one, can fail ... you can't go anywhere)



Guys, has anyone recently received a 5-year warranty certificate on the site? What serial number do I need to enter now?

[vis]

vis, they do not carry used cars (maybe if you just ask) there the difference comes out absolutely minuscule from the new one and therefore it makes no sense to sell used. But the broken car that he wrote about Cos, it is under repair and will be sold even with a motor warranty.
As for the guarantee, yes, it is always controversial. I bought in fact also (without a guarantee) 7 years ago a Panasonic bread maker and multicooker and they still serve me! mmm !!! And I took an iPhone 6 under warranty, and after the first update it simply did not turn on and in the service I was given a new device, since it could not be repaired)
Normal people, if there were scammers, they would not pick up the phone and go to a meeting! And so it is not in their interests.

What serial number do I need to enter now?

The one at the bottom of the car. Below is the barcode. It contains a lot of numbers and letters.

[vis]

vis, I agree completely, if only it worked)) It also happens that they are not tested at the plant for some not very significant parameter and they are not allowed to be officially sold. Today I took a closer look at the scuff - it could have appeared even if the bowl was inaccurately inserted: either I was the first time, or the seller was checking it, but I didn't notice right away.

I am very pleased with mine. Today I plowed for an hour on three types of steep dough and cooked pizza sauce))

verchik, About the sound in a personal answered. I have a similar one. But after a while, I generally cease to notice him.
By the way, nobody tried to make tea leaves for rye bread in induction? There it seems like 65 ° should be kept for 2 hours.

It's just interesting then it turns out, if the device is put up for testing or use, then how do they get on sale? They probably write off such a technique or not?

I have one of these at home for experiments.

Therefore, the vaunted five-year warranty for me immediately ceased to be a decisive factor.

During the repair of 070 in the Orbis V s / c, St. Petersburg was repaired under warranty, saying that the five-year period had not yet expired. At that time, the car was on the verge of 5 years.

So the version with a purchase at the factory and the benefit of a small margin with a large number of sales, I think, still has a right to life. Or maybe I console myself so

Likely. Serious firms "from the factory" do not trade at all. Moreover, at this plant, no one will even talk to anyone.

maybe these are cars from repair.

In this version, there will be an ambush with a guarantee.

But the broken car that Cos wrote about is under repair and will be sold even with a warranty on the motor.

No guarantees are given for the motor. There is a guarantee for the device. And it just continues with a break while the car is in the service.

vaunted five year warranty

You are in another country, and each has its own rules.
For example, for the 90th episode, not every 5 years is given.

Or just yesterday I was reading an Italian resource. They started selling a new induction, well, I googled reviews, since I know French.

So, in addition to discussing the features of the machine, etc., they discuss and are very upset because of two circumstances: a) that in France a new induction is sold for 1082 euros, and in Italy for 1500; c) that in France they give a lifetime warranty for the motor, and in Italy they gave a standard one for a couple of years.

Different countries, different conditions.

[Paul I]

Paul ISerious companies should also be able to print warranty coupons with the correct indication of the warranty period, or not hesitate and conclude an additional warranty service agreement, or in some other way to confirm their intentions. And the prospect of proving in two years that "I was once promised on the phone" is a reason to think carefully.

By the way, the topic of the markdown of expensive goods, which for some reason did not pass the quality control department, and the sale of them in their company stores, was still under the Union. At least our plant "Mayak", if I'm not mistaken, did so.

MirandaSo here, too, when buying before December 31, 2017, the officials promise a five-year warranty. But only orally. Well, on the sites. And to screen their pages and go to a notary to certify the printouts instead of getting a normal warranty card is somehow indecent

[Cos]

Cos, and on which site?
At the office. site where languages ​​/ countries are not changed about the induction machine, Sense basically.

* The change of kitchen machines, which will take part in the promotion, is indicated below:

KVC5000T, KVC5030T, KVC7320S, KVL8320S, KVL8470S, KVC5000B, KVC5000Y, KVC5000G, KVC5000P

Conversely, it is written about induction

Having added a Cooking Chef at the official representative of KENWOOD in Ukraine TOV "DELONGI UKRAINA", you will be able to take away 2 rocks of the guarantee service!

proof - 🔗

[Miranda]

Miranda,

wow, "Delongy Ukraine" has already been removed from the site about the five-year guarantee - you see, I'm not the only one interested in this issue. Although on OLH, where they also attract buyers, they still write:
By making a purchase at the official representative of Kenwood Company you will receive:
- 5 years of official warranty service;
- free courier delivery to any place in Ukraine;
- training at the KENWOOD Culinary Academy;
...

and at the kenwood shop. com. ya, a banner with a five is still spinning (like the official Kenwood store)

I can't throw links - there are not enough loaves yet

[Cos]

Cos, I don't know much about Ukrainian stores, what OLK is not in the know.
I know a lot only about service centers, where I bought something and I'm still going.

Therefore, I focus on the office. sources.
There and last year only Sense was 5 years old. We have already discussed this here, were surprised, somewhere in the fall or even last summer, but it is long and difficult to search.

We also have several types of office. stores that are not.

[Miranda]

Miranda, OLH is like "Avito" in Russia, but it was there that I met "Delongy Ukraine"

In general, for me all this is no longer relevant, and the main message of the text about the guarantee was that it was called five-year in our country without proof, although it was presented as the main advantage when buying, and the profit from acquiring abroad in this case I see more weighty even in the absence of this very guarantee. Something like this

Yes, that's exactly the case with guarantees. Warranties were announced before the end of the previous year, but these machines were not covered by the warranty. But Kenwood Studios sell and promise a 5 year warranty. How? unknown. But the office. website model 096 has not been selling for a long time, only 094 is available.

[Cos]

Cos, like Avito?

My main message is that I don't know how it was in 2015 and earlier, but neither in 2016 nor in 2017 did the official Ukrainian Kenwood (unlike the Russian one) give a 5-year guarantee for induction. And on what fence they lied about 5 years - it doesn't matter.

Therefore, I agree with you that in such a situation and with a large difference in cost, it is more profitable to buy without a guarantee. Then the difference will either be saved if in tech. 2 years everything will be ok. Or it will be spent on a service center. And after 2 years the cars will equalize in rights, that is, the same repair for money.
They don't bring them to Russia at such prices (650-700 euros), and Russia is huge. Delivery to Moscow is very different from delivery to Krasnoyarsk, and even a box of 30 kg.

096 in terms of official value here costs 1030-1040 euros, and 094 costs 875-885 euros. With a 5-year warranty, free shipping and occasional gifts (either an extra iron bowl, or a dough sheeter + scales). When buying a gray import, there is either no real savings even without gifts (that is, comparable, or even more expensive), or a maximum of 50-70 euros, since the gray import revolves around 1,000 euros.

[VetaS78]

VetaS78, Svetlana, did you buy a car from these sellers then? A whole team is already here))



Miranda, we have 094 750 $ with a guarantee and a free scale, and 096 in the same set 870 $

[Miranda]

Miranda, he rzhu)) But it is necessary to sell, so they use all means. But they did prove to me that it was they, "Delongy", that they are. Business, cho))

[Paul I]

Paul I, well, I'm not strong in guarantees, what exactly does this or that brand give. For example, a gyro scooter bought for children for $ 350 stopped turning and they explain to me that this is not a warranty repair because the turn was somehow wrong. So I don't understand how you can make the wrong turn if the technique is designed for turns)
But about something else) then someone asked about the Kubikorezke nozzle, it turns out that you can buy one socket, and in the service you can buy nozzles like AT 340? And disks from the food processor do not fit?))

Found a video comparison of Kenwood Gourmet vs. Kenwood Cooking Chef 096 from German blogger Sallys Welt.

[Air]

Air, yes, good video.

We have already discussed (+ one more video), and there then below Girja translated a little.

Kitchen machine Kenwood (3) # 3219

[Miranda]

Miranda, I apologize, apparently I skipped a few pages.
And the video is really cool. And the girl is very cute))