Kenwood Kitchen Machines

Girls, I'm confused. Is the AT950A meat grinder suitable for Kmix or not? On kenwoodrussia for Kmix, only the KAH950ME meat grinder is offered.

AT will not work. She has a different connector.

You can only use the adapter. The adapter costs about 1tr

Then there is one more blonde question for you: which one is better to take? The difference in price is almost half. Mnu has no adapter yet.

It's not entirely clear who doubled whom?
And they differ, as far as I understand, only in the connector, none of them is better.
On the Yandex market, search for kenwood kax950
There are several more options with old prices (less than six thousand). Here you can take them - you will not need an adapter for them.
Personally, among all the attachments, I have three pieces for which an adapter is needed (the meat grinder was sold to me directly in mVideo along with KM Chef Titanium by smart sellers who apparently did not know that they have different connectors, and I myself bought a dough cutter with a dough sheeter in mVideo "soon - sooner, otherwise all attachments become more expensive ").
As a result, I bought three adapters in Mediamarkte, so as not to rearrange each time. All three are well dressed and working, no problem with that. But by and large, if there is an opportunity to buy an option without an adapter, I would recommend it. And with an adapter - it's only out of despair, if another option is not possible or much more expensive, well, or out of my own stupidity, I already bought it, as I did. Because with the adapter, the nozzle dangles a little more (the nozzle hangs in the adapter and the adapter in the CM), and it takes a little more shelf space, and it costs more for the price of the adapter (800-1100 rubles). Yes, and every time you look at her and think: "Here, damn it, cross-handed, I bought grenades of the wrong system!"

AT950A in Mvideo 5900r, KAH950ME on the office site 10 or 11 thousand.

look at foreign cu or ebay
I took my AT950 there for about 3.5 tr
Here

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Manechka, it's not very convenient with an adapter, if there is an opportunity, it's better without it.
Look at the KU, there is a mobile, it will be more profitable, especially if you cooperate with someone.
If you look in Nemechcine, pay attention to the 955 as well. I don’t know if there is an analogue for the sensation.
I have the 955th meat grinder on the 086 model, I ordered it specifically because of the hillock, and I am very pleased: there are larger diameters, I stuff it into it almost without cutting meat and fish, - it's convenient.
When are you going to go? When is the report expected? I wonder what they will brag about and what program they have prepared for you

The beginning of the story.

my nozzle is simply not included in this adapter! More precisely, I entered, but I pulled it out afterwards for half an hour, having spent all my rather fragile physical strength ...
I tried a meat grinder (she also inserted it through this adapter) - I inserted it once, barely pulled it out, the second time it is not inserted ..
Well, it shouldn't be like that?
Can I have a defective adapter ??
What to do then?

Development, climax and end.

on Monday I became the "unhappy" owner of a sensation on the action m video (6 attachments). Unfortunate because promotional nozzles are put into a low-speed socket through an adapter and they simply did not fit into it!

As a result, today I took my adapter and gearbox from the cube cutter and went to m-video. They met me there kindly, looked at my parts and confirmed that yeah - not included. Took a demo adapter (from the car they use in the store) - included. We got a new adapter out of the box from another machine - again not included !!! More precisely, it enters, but with difficulty.And finally, only the third adapter came up, and then only after having smeared its insides with vegetable oil! So, apparently it turned out that this is not such a rare problem .. It is strange that they do not check them in production ...

Looks like I was lucky with the adapter.
I had the original, and M_Video seems to be trading in China.

The adapter was included in the package.
Based on your words, either the manufacturer himself does not complete with originals, or Mvideo opens the boxes and replaces the original adapters with "golimy" Chinese.

Well, I assumed this, but the question is interesting, I somehow missed it, but it's worth it to figure it out.

Can I brag then) for two weeks of use I made a bunch of custard buns (my thanks to Miranda, Zvezde and Eugenia) with cheese, I made a charlotte twice a day (thanks for the Maria-Masinen recipe, black forest cake (thanks to isketel X), meringues , chocolate fondants a couple of times with mint filling and whipped cream .. wow .. apparently Paul's hints of addiction .. there is a place to be sweets, thanks to him for the recipe for mayonnaise without eggs.
I easily adapted to the combine (soup, salads), although in my opinion it rattles slightly when you twist the top lid (before you put the nozzle in the nest) it opens slightly from vibrations, you have to twist it in the process .. I also wrote down the mayonnaise recipe in glasses (not I remember who wrote ..), it was also very tasty when I took home eggs from my sister, very convenient and fast (although I eat mayonnaise once a year, my husband appreciated it, and I ate my "time" already with a fur coat!). There was one misfire with mayonnaise, one egg remained, and my husband urgently needs not sour cream but mayonnaise in borscht, but please, I thought, but it did not become the necessary sauce, just butter with spices, bought more eggs, added one and 1 minute and please, the desired consistency (the first times everything was great, I did a jar for everyone with me)
Summing up, I can say that very quickly I got used to relying on CM, it is quite easy to adapt my favorite recipes to it. I am very happy with the purchase, and a happy woman, as they say, everyone is happy, both her husband and children! Joy to everyone, friends! And like Leopold the cat, I want to add: "Let's live together!"
Today I made American chocolate biscuits .. very convenient, while the butter is being mixed, you measure out dry ingredients, sugar with honey, chocolate, while you wash the cups, HE mixes .. Beauty !!! Delicious huge, very chocolate, cookies that melt in your mouth .. True, the children quickly swept away the cookies) next in line is the mousse cake ..

[Quote: Miranda from Today at 14:21]

I just want to say that I read the topic before purchasing KM, and for me personally, combining several messages into one is very difficult to understand ... A quote on a quote, who asked what, who answered what, is very difficult to understand. Sometimes the answer is obtained before the question ... Here is an example of the last message about meat grinders. Everything was clear and understandable, Pavel wrote that he was satisfied with the work of a meat grinder with an adapter, from which a dispute began about adapters ... Now this information (important!) Is not at all ... Starting with the words Quote: Miranda from Today at 14:21 it is impossible to understand anything: for no apparent reason, some kind of beginning of history ... a climax ... what is what ...

Olya, but as for me, combining messages on a specific nozzle is very convenient
I read the topics twice. First, choosing a car, then after purchasing it, choosing attachments. And it is on the first pages in the combined posts that everything is more or less clear. Further pouring from empty to empty. Well, for example, 100,500 questions / answers are smeared with how the sieve-wipe is different ... and the same thing ... the same thing ...
Yes, reading the topic in the current mode of norms. But for a beginner, mastering the topic at first, and while with a nozzle porridge in his head, it is very difficult. And, God forgive me, "consultants" in the same MVideo do not add optimism. Well, they don't have cookies, it happens ... But what for to convince the buyer that the AT will not fit their low-speed one?
It is now, only 2 months after the purchase of 096, I already know which nozzle by the code. And at first ... well ... it was difficult in general

Oh, what a video I saw about a new typewriter.
In German, so what they say is not clear, BUT they show the difference between lids, bowls, buttons, etc.

First, they show a new hook in operation too, and later at 22.32 two hooks side by side are compared, they say something about the blade at the end of the current one, it's a pity it is not clear what exactly. But visually, the end of the new hook is slightly more horizontal, which, perhaps, replaces the scapula.

And at 9.50 she puts on the whisk and the new sweeper at the same time. True, did not include

But in any case, the visual comparison is interesting.


UPD oh yes she has several videos about a brand new car.
And yet here from 8.54 she set and turned on the whisk and sweeper at the same time. Well, I finally saw it. Theoretically, I liked this function.

From 10.36 a little about the plastic blotch at the handle, which folds back the products / dough that have risen up.

they say something about the scapula at the end of the current one, it's a pity it's not clear what exactly

The girl (the most popular culinary blogger in Germany) says she was initially disappointed with the new hook, but in the work it proved to be no worse than the old one.

[Girja]

Girja, Thank you!
The new hook looks thinner and lighter, although I could be wrong. Sooner or later, different practical comparisons will appear. The hook is the main attachment for me, so it's interesting.

And what does she say about the holes in the new bowl in the first video (from 4 minutes)?
I thought it was for steam, but the new splash cover has tabs covering those holes, which confused me.

Either way, a new vapor cap wraps around the head. On the 80s and 90s, when you do something at a high temperature and both lids are closed, then the pair has no choice but to go out in the center (where the lids touch). And since the steam lid does not flow around the head and there is a gap, condensation collects inside (between the lid and the head). I don't know if I explained clearly. But if the temperature is high, I open the steam window on the bottom lid. That is, the holes on the bowl were logical for me until I saw protrusions in the new lid that covered these holes on the bowl.

The rest is more or less clear.

[Miranda]

Miranda, I just bought a new car !!!WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH ME??!!!!!!
I really liked the function of fixing the selected program, time and temperature ... But in general I like it: girl_cray1: although one nest on top

[zvezda]

zvezda, you know how I read it on a smartphone?
That you bought a new induction

New pretty, yeah. But I want more hands-on reviews before I start wanting

But that one nest, so okay. On the medium speed, only the food processor, and now he has a stick for the high speed. There is no loss. But I don't like the accumulated low-speed through the adapter. Any add. I don't like the connection in the circuit.

[Miranda]

The new hook looks thinner and lighter, although I could be wrong. Sooner or later, different practical comparisons will appear. The hook is the main attachment for me, so it's interesting.

Miranda , and for me the hook is the most important and demanded attachment, therefore the interest is increased, especially since it is the hook that is subject to such metamorphoses. Thank you for information. It seems to me, or is it so, that they are the same in the new Kenwood Chief Titaniums and the new induction ones. You're right - they are thinner, lighter and have no height adjustment. Here the mixes are shown and

Here the mixes are shown

Thank you, but the process is difficult to evaluate from the video.
I think that even if I had this hook, I would try five times at least until the final verdict. Better yet, put next to it and look at the same ingredients at the same time.

But, on the other hand, the hook is not such a problem, you can always buy it

And what does she say about the holes in the new bowl

Miranda, these are just spouts for gently pouring liquid products.

but the new splash cover has tabs covering these holes

because of them, the old bowl does not fit the new car ((

Sally also explains the following advantages of the new car:
- at the cover against splashing, the loading funnel is much larger and the projection for opening it (funnel) is located on the convenient side (on the left, so the right hand is free for the buttons).
- the bowl has a scale on 2 sides
- temperature up to 180 °
- stirrer and whisk can be used simultaneously
- induction can be switched on without stirring, for example, for proving dough
- induction has 10 stirring options (with a pause from 5 seconds to 5 minutes)
- the ability to change the power from 250W to 1500, there is an automatic
mode (the machine chooses the power itself)
- the maximum time has increased - from 3 hours to 8.
- various programs for cooking (apparently, like in multicooker)

[Girja]

these are just spouts for gently pouring liquid products.

That's it! And I figured that it was improved with steam!

because of them, the old bowl does not fit the new car ((

Why? The geometry is the same, if with the old cover, it will do. Or if used without a cover. The ice cream maker is the same, but there is generally a plastic bowl.

Or does it say that the old induction bowl is not designed for 180 degrees? This may be the reason.

Girja, thanks for the retelling-translation!

[Girja]

Girja , thank you for such detailed details. And there is something that Sally does not like or something she lacks.

But, in general, now add. the bowl on the new machine is really either to be used without a lid, or to take the old lid, if, of course, it is combined with the new top lid and the machine closes.

And the same iron bowl will be expensive.
This is a minus.

But on the other hand, I'm not going to change the car
I have a purely theoretical interest in the new one.

... now add. the bowl on the new machine is really either to be used without a lid, or to take the old lid, if, of course, it is combined with the new top lid and the machine closes.

So it probably is.

... Is there anything that Sally doesn't like or lacks?

at 21:30 Sally criticizes the protective casing (or whatever it is called) from the steam, on the new car it does not hold firmly enough and when lifting the head of the car with the lever falls. At the same time, she says that if she did not have a positive experience with the old model, she would not even pay attention to it.

Or does it say that the old induction bowl is not designed for 180 degrees?

No she didn't say that

[Girja]

Girja, Thank you

It turns out there are pros and cons. This is logical.
In any case, development is good. And how induction appeared, only flexi changed, but for a blender a new knife and a stirring stick were invented, but the machine itself was not changed. And here changes are not only some nozzles, but also the machine itself.

Those who want induction will now have a torment of choice

[Girja]

Girja , thank you very much

... And here changes are not only some nozzles, but also the machine itself ... Now there will be flour of choice ...

For some reason, now I thought about Rituslya.

[Miranda!!!]

Miranda!!!Of course, if possible, I would buy everything at all: lol: but I only bought 096 then thanks to you (and then it somehow went up in price)
I also have a citrus juice on the medium speed (I love it dearly) ..... but I understood: girl_cleanglasses: I DO NOT NEED a new one !!!!!! Thank you dear!!! Can you convince

I also have a citrus juicer on the medium speed

How so? Some old model?
After all, for citrus fruits at high speed. And the other juicer too.


On the medium-speed one, only the food processor, or rather the old pin from it, and the new food processor is completely the same, except for the pin.

Well, or some other retro nozzle for medium speed, I don't know here.

The other day there was a problem with Sens.
The engine speed began to float and the protection was triggered from the slightest load - it turned off the machine (the indicator often blinks).
I must say, initially I didn't really like the sound of the engine, especially compared to the previous car - KMC57008.
But there was nothing to compare with, and it works and okay. But then they sailed ...
I called the Orbis service and agreed to attend the disassembly and troubleshooting. I wanted to look inside the new car.

And this is what we saw there:












Actually, there is nothing special to comment on. Everything is quite expected.
Conclusions, compared with the results of disassembling the induction are as follows:
The kinematic diagram and materials are identical. Size difference.
What caught my eye was that the motor sits more rigidly on the top frame than in induction through plastic washers.
Therefore, induction is slightly quieter.
Otherwise, everything is the same, which makes it possible to refer both cars to the premium segment.

Special thanks to Orbis service.
We had a fruitful conversation with the management and the master. We talked about Kenwood's problems.
They offered to contact their service of spare parts and components for all questions about nozzles
by phone: 389-65-11 and promised to explain everything in detail and answer all questions. Hope this is the case.

[Paul I]

They offered to contact their service of spare parts and components on tel: 389-65-11 for all questions about the attachments and promised to explain everything in detail and answer all questions. Hope this is the case.

Paul I, and what was the cause of the malfunction? Was it removed?
And secondly, please ask your new friends for the marking of the knife, stirring stick and lid for the new blender, if this does not bother you.

Paul I, what was the reason for the malfunction? Was it removed?

They are not particularly looking for faults. To begin with, they will change the engine, if it does not work out, the control board. That's the whole repair.
But here is the case when, I think, the malfunction is quite complex. I assume engine marriage. Moreover, a Kenwood representative confirmed this information and said that Kenwood was working to fix the problem.

And secondly, please ask new acquaintances to mark the knife, stirring stick and lid for the new blender, if this does not bother you.

It won't make it difficult, but that's why I left the phone, so that everyone could contact on their own. Interactive needs to be developed.
So, call and clarify yourself, and then let us know how satisfied you are with the answer. This is important for tuning feedback.
I will have a different answer than a third-party client. And is it important.

[Paul I]

Paul I, Thanks for the quick response.

So, call and clarify yourself, and then let us know how satisfied you are with the answer.

Oh, Paul I, not everything is so simple, because I am very deeply not local, that's why I turned to you.

labeling of the knife, stirring stick and lid for the new blender

Let me answer you, otherwise it is still difficult for you to call from Ukraine to St. Petersburg on the phone left by Pavel, and from Krasnoyarsk it would also be expensive, although the Russian Federation.

Stirrer Stick - KW715661
New blender knife - KW715660
O-ring for blender - KW713793

But I don't know the cover.
And there is also the marking of the glass flask and the base where the knife is inserted and the flask is screwed on, I don’t know them either.

UPD There is also a marking of the ribbed O-ring on the cover. I saw it sold separately somewhere.

That's all the markings on the blender.
Where I see it, I try to write it out to a file. I have markings for the mini-chopper for all the parts, but not for everything on the blender, unfortunately.

Oh, Paul I, not everything is so simple, because I am very deeply not local, that's why I turned to you.

I didn't pay attention. But, as you can see, everything turned out to be easier with the sorceress Miranda)
Okay, let's agree that I will only resolve those issues that the collective mind of the forum has not dealt with.
Although, recent observations show that the collective intelligence of the forum is more powerful than Kenwood's technical support.
For example, in the latter, they were not aware of the existence of the KAT001ME adapter until today.
Knew only about KAT002ME.
And they were quite amazed to learn about its existence.
Well, it is not officially supplied to Russia for some reason.
Again, thanks to our fairy. Well, what would we do without her.

[Miranda]

Let me answer you

MirandaThank you very much! I just want to upgrade my blender. For the mini-chopper - thank you too, you gave both the markings and the place of purchase. All the best!

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, not at all
But I don't know the cover. I thought that the old one would do, but in the old hole there is a clear circle, and in the new one under a stirring stick with a funnel V. Therefore, if a stirring stick and a knife, then a lid, I think.

That is, it will also do with the old lid, but it will be 4 + -cm. higher knives than with a new cover. With a new stick, it goes down almost to the knives, as close as possible.

[Miranda]

Miranda, I think - everything needs to be changed, 4 cm is a lot, but our terenas do not have this yet, I found it in one German, but they do not send to us (((we will look. Thank you!

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, yes, I also found everything in German, except for the cover (maybe it is there, I don’t know the marking), and only through intermediaries myself or a joint venture.

But not yet at all.

I think - everything needs to be changed, 4 cm is a lot

You can try to approach the question in Russian (or in Ukrainian?)
Well, in short, poke around. There, this stirring stick also has a cone, and perhaps you can bore a little round hole and the stick can be lowered to the desired depth.
However, I will ask the service partner if it helps.
Maybe there is a supply.
I looked.
Here is a stirring stick:
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And everything else:
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However, delivery is expensive.
But maybe there are deliveries through a third party company.

Another service provider suggested searching on the site:
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You can also ask questions there.

[Paul I]

Well, in short, poke around. There, this stirring stick also has a cone, and perhaps you can bore a little round hole and the stick can be lowered to the desired depth.

Paul I, thank you, but this, perhaps, can be left as a last resort, the Germans do not send to us, unfortunately, and on the last site (we also have such, with the same assortment) the prices are absolutely outrageous.

Girls, why are you so resting against this stirring stick?
For example, I had a Fiksovian whisk lying around for beating, I perfectly adapted it instead of this stick - cheap and cheerful. And no cover needs to be changed.

It is tightly fixed in the hole due to the elasticity of the rods, its length is ideal for the mixer bowl, bending the rods back and forth can be planted higher and lower, and the price is 3 kopecks. In Auchan it is even cheaper than in the fix.

[Olga]

Olga, bravo!

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, I have such
Thanks, I'll try

We fired up when we talked about how inexpensive it was replaced. And yet, in foreign services, such a replacement will not cost very much - stick 130 + - rubles, knife 750-800 rubles, I don't know how much. That is, for 1 thousand + - I do not mind updating the blender.

And from ebay for 500 rubles. + shipping 4.5 thousand - it's easier to buy at our flea market from those who buy 096 and sell a blender cheaper than this advice

Our services are a) poor in assortment, c) greedy for money.
You can communicate with them only about warranty repairs, but not about spare parts. parts.

That is, no one will kill himself and buy for a price neither a stick nor a knife, of course. But on occasion to buy for inexpensive - why not.

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By the way, I saw a couple more markings.

Ribbed O-Ring for Cover - KW712612
The cover is KW713795, but here Google shows both the old and the new, it is necessary to clarify.

[Olga VB]

I had a Fiksovsky whisk lying around for beating, I perfectly adapted it instead of this stick - cheap and cheerful. And no cover needs to be changed.

Olga VB, wow, brilliant! I have exactly the same only red and the same lying around! Thank you! Apply for a patent!

[Sergey01]

wow, brilliant! I have exactly the same only red and the same lying around! Thank you! Apply for a patent!

Do not hurry.
This whisk will have limited functionality compared to the proprietary stick, if it can do anything at all. The bottom line is that the specified stick and its seat are designed so that it freely walks in a circle, returning the upper layers of the mixed product with the flat side down. I have doubts that the whisk, clamped by the rods in the hole, will be able to rotate just as freely and successfully do the same.Not to mention that the surface of contact of the whisk with the product is much smaller, which means that the efficiency of work is greatly reduced, if we assume that it is possible at all. However, Olga can easily conduct a comparative test and refute my doubts.

The cover is KW713795, but here Google shows both the old and the new, it is necessary to clarify.

To me, Google threw out only old covers for this request. I have not found any new ones.

On the question of comparing Kenwood and Kitchen.
To me Sergey01 sent a kinematic diagram and a disassembly diagram of Kitchen and had the opportunity to compare.
So, my summary: Kenwood is quite attracted to light professional equipment.
At the same time, Kitchen barely reaches the bar for premium class household appliances.
That is, in general, these are devices of a different class: Kitchen is a class lower.
Which, however, is confirmed by comparative tests.

[Paul]

Paul, the native stick does not rotate when the blender is running.

[Paul]

Paul, the native stick does not rotate when the blender is running.

Well, of course it doesn't rotate itself. This means that it is forced to rotate. But imagine what would happen if you start doing the same with a whisk that has no height limit, especially if you try to move it closer to the knives. One careless movement and the knives will cut the whisk. Well, its thin surface practically negates the mixing effect. Here, a flat scapula is still desirable.

[Twig]

Twig, what do you mean?
It can be twisted or back and forth up and down.

Recently I gave a link to a video in the topic with nozzles, they use a stick there. Here is the link right from this time, first up and down, then in a circle twists

Olga can easily conduct a comparative test

Nope, it can't. I don't have a regular mixer, there is nothing to compare with. As for the rim, its rods can be bent so that it is either clamped or hung freely in the hole, according to the wishes of the working people.
And you can turn it in any direction, just like a regular stirrer.
And the surface of the whisk handle is perhaps even larger than that of a standard mixer. And it does not fail, if you do not press on it with all the foolishness. In general, I'm comfortable. However, it is not always necessary.

As for the rim, its rods can be bent so that it is either clamped or hung freely in the hole, according to the wishes of the working people.

Well, with this approach, if not simpler, then it is definitely more effective and reliable to cut a semblance of a patented stirrer in place of the old lid from a piece of wood. Any rugged guy can handle it on Saturday night.

[Miranda]

Miranda, you just really want to have this stick.
It often happens that you want something, you want it, you strive. And when I got it, I played it once, twice and put it in the far corner.
For me, this blender is so useless at all. Heavy, takes a lot of space. Doesn't live up to expectations.
When I had Sens, I thought I would make milkshakes. And with this task, he just does not cope. All sorts of smoothies to do - the old submersible does an excellent job.
Mashed potatoes soup - God forbid to do in this bandura - boiling water tuda-syudy flop, it's easier to immediately immerse in a saucepan. And wash less dishes.
I immediately sold the blender from the bought 096.
By the way, the person was very happy with the stick, because the previous blender ruined it by shoving a whisk into the hole
But he needed a blender in production, not for home use.

[Twig]

Twig, yes, I want
And I do not exclude that I will play enough.

But I have already begun to use the blender actively.

But I just want an extra knife for the cups. So that one for dry foods and the other for wet sauces. I made mayonnaise a couple of times, it's convenient in a glass right away. But how these knives carry the sink is a question.

[Twig]

Twig, which is why I bought it.
Only my separation is not dry / wet, but compatible.

One knife - coffee, sugar and nuts. The second is spices and sauces.

And secondly, please ask new acquaintances to mark the knife, stirring stick and lid for the new blender, if this does not bother you.

Sent the number of the new lid to the blender:
Here is the number: KW715607

[Paul I]

Paul I, Thank you!

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