Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

[natasha222]

natasha222, have you checked if the oven heats up during proofing? You can even run the program without a bucket without a bucket and during the proofing check whether it is warm inside, you can lean the temperature probe against the bottom of the stove and measure the temperature.

Well, and also - the yeast could fail.

Waist, yeast shelf life until 2019. And how to check the proofing program without a bucket ??? Turn on program 02 and run it completely for 2 hours ???

[natasha222]

natasha222, Yes, you can check on program 02 "Fast", but it is not necessary to run the entire program.

Run the program.
Let it spin the batch for itself for 15-20 minutes, nothing will come of it for the stove.
AND then the proofing begins, which will last about 1 hour. During this hour, check if it warms up at all and preferably to what temperature.
Checked / measured - you can turn it off.

I measured the temperature of this mode, in the first 5 minutes the temperature increased from 32 * to 44 *. That is, you just need to check the heat or not in the first 5-10 minutes of the proving period.

Waist, and is the temperature probe used to measure electricity or something else ??? Sorry for my knowledge

[natasha222]

natasha222, you will forgive me ... You can use a culinary thermometer, or some other that can "painlessly" measure the temperature inside the stove.

The thermometer is simple - a thermometer with a needle.
I have such


Lay on the bottom so that it does NOT touch the shadows, you can lean the needle against the wall or against the very bottom.

What are you, Talia, you are just smart !!!! And help with a quick answer and advice !!! I don't have such a thermometer, but I have a culinary thermometer. Only it is plastic. Can I just put it down with my hand down?

[natasha222]

natasha222, the oven inside heats up during the proofing to a maximum of 45 *. I think you can just put it on the bottom so that it does not lean against the shade and leave it there under the lid for 3-5 minutes. Opening the lid will make the oven colder

In principle, even the air temperature can reach +45 in summer. I think thermometer cases are fully designed for endurance and higher temperatures.

It is important for you to make sure that the oven heats / does not heat during the proofing, in order to exclude or confirm the "fault" of the oven itself in the fact that the bread has stopped rising. Well, then, based on the results, eliminate the cause or look for it in another.

Thalia, I'll sign off tomorrow. In Siberia, it's already one in the morning



Thalia, good morning! I measured the temperature during the proofing - it went over 50 degrees. She turned off the stove and checked it with her hand that it was hot.

[natasha222]

natasha222, We found out that the HP is working properly, now we change the yeast and flour to other manufacturer

Did you really use these producers' flour and yeast for five years, and after a small repair, you need to change both? And another question - I cooked bread three times, but it didn’t rise, and it wasn’t raw inside, just slightly wet --- muffins are still baked like that.

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natalya, the stove heats up, kneads, so a priori it is efficient. The yeast could simply become damp and lose its properties, the flour could be contaminated with a potato stick and not show itself right away ... many options.
The only thing that confuses me is the temperature of the proofing. Try to measure it in a bucket, after removing the spatula so that HP
did not grind the thermometer, then as indicated Waist

It turns out I checked with a water thermometer. It went off scale for me for 50 and broke !!! I'm bold, I thought it was okay. I'll try new yeast and flour.

And me again!!! Already with tears in my eyes I changed the flour and yeast. The bread is low again --- 5 cm on one side.on the other hand, it is generally 2 cm. The bottom of the bread burned out, as well as those three rolls. What to do? Help

[Natasha]

It went off scale for me for 50

The bottom of the bread burned, as did those three rolls.

This looks like overheating.
Natasha, can you show the resulting bread?

Thalia, hello !!! NO fotik. Sadness !!! And I never exhibited pictures.

[natasha222]

natasha222, show the recipe. Do not be lazy to write here. Have you watched the kolobok? How was the flour weighed and the yeast measured? What flour did you replace with what? Just taking the SAME flour from the SAME store is not a substitute. This also applies to yeast. Let's figure it out. Everything will work out for you!

Yeast 2.5 h. l 0.5 tbsp. l sugar 380 g flour 1 h. l. salt 0.5 tbsp. l. milk powder 250-260 ml. water and salting. oils. Fast mode - 2 hours. For 2 years now (when there was only one left) I have baked only this bread, sometimes I add an egg and add some amount of water. This recipe is the most popular and worked out for me. I look at the kolobok, for the five years that I have stove - it seems that my hand has filled. As 2 fuses were changed, and this dance began !!! Only Altai flour was and Saf-Moment yeast - never let down !! Today I bought Makfa flour and new yeast. The result is the same.

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natasha, what if you try to bake on the Main? Check the mode.

[natasha222]

natasha222, but the fuses are not just blown, and 2 at once. Surely there was some problem that was not solved by replacing the fuses. But what could have happened, why the stove burns - this is for our men, they will prompt. I cannot prompt anything, I do not know these technical subtleties.

and if you try to bake on the Main?

Unlikely, but I think it's possible. My sister's HP broke down: all programs refused altogether, there was only one left for kneading and proofing.That is, there may still be an option that the malfunction is only on one program

[Waist]

Waist, I would believe several programs. You rightly noticed that two blown fuses did not just burn out at the same time.

Something men are silent May respond. Does it happen that one of the programs can turn off? Will the rest work as before?

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natasha, we must try. IMHO. But what if

Something men are silent

Natasha, they will definitely respond Someone may not have read it yet, someone may be busy, and someone may already be looking for the information you need ... Let's wait

Does it happen that one of the programs can shut down? Will the rest work as before?

I don’t know for sure. In theory, it should have the same effect on all programs, which is why I gave my sister's example as an option / exception. Therefore, I agree with Sveta - you need to try.

I'll wait for men !!!! And there I will resknu once again put on the main program.

The bottom of the bread burned, as did those three rolls. What to do?

My algorithm is in this situation.
1. check the voltage in the network, especially since the previous ones burned out for a reason, the more a burnt bottom indicates overheating.
2. Perhaps the fuses are set for a higher current than the original ones, double-check.
3. Check the fit and centering of the bucket.

[natasha222]

natasha222, I do not understand the situation with the repair, if the fuses were replaced, which ones? In HP SD2501 there are 6 of them
1pc in the current plug, 2pc thermo at 142 * C, 1pc 38213150000 3.15A 250V Radial 8.5 X 8mm, 1pc in the motor, 1pc in the dispenser solenoid. If the thermo is dead by 142 *, the temperature sensor must be changed automatically.

And again, I'm sorry I didn't answer right away. They took the stove to look again, returned it today. The verdict was as follows - 2 fuses were replaced, a new temperature sensor was installed. I began to measure the heating temperature - immediately when the products were leveling, the temperature probe showed 70 degrees. And what does that mean ??? The whole stove is for scrap. Upset - words cannot convey! I don’t eat store bread and what the guys should do

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natasha, you don't know where you are from.Big City? The workshop must give a guarantee for its repair.
Is there an authorized Panasonic service in your city?

Sveta, I live in Siberia, a small town. The warranty has expired long ago. My stove is 5 years old. Not a single breakdown, as good as new.

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natasha, I'm talking about a guarantee from the one who repaired the stove. Did they give you one?

Light, I just didn't get it. A friend of my son was watching the stove. He is very well versed in any electronics. But even he is shocked by himself that he could not figure it out. I sat over her for two weeks.

[natasha222]

natasha222, Natasha, it's sad. Can't you fix it? And you won't show it to another master? Maybe you have HP specialists?

[natasha222]

natasha222,

the stove is a device with electronic brains, the electronic circuit is a secret of the manufacturer, and even a very experienced electronics engineer is not sure that he will find an error in the electronic brains if the manufacturer has not provided documentation on them, which I don’t know for our stove can be completely found in open form.
You can sit over the stove for a year and not sit out anything.
That is why, in the event of an electronic failure, there is nowhere to go - you need to call the service center and look for meetings with the service technician from the manufacturer. Alas, this is often the only option, if the breakdown is so complex, it is associated with a failure in the electronic circuit of the stove.
All fuses and sensors work according to the program, which is hardwired into electronic brains. If your brain fails, you can't get away with a simple replacement of parts.
I'm sorry that I'm upset, but I have to look not just for an electronics engineer, but for someone who worked with Panasonic stoves.
It makes sense to drive the stove to service mode- this may reveal some other flaws in the work, or it may help to see more clearly where the dog is buried. But it looks like you need to mentally tune in to the inconvenience of finding a narrow specialist in Panasonic.
Service manual can be viewed on our website or found in the internet.
ps. Perhaps one of our men knows where to get complete documentation with a diagram for the stove. That's when your son's friend can find something with good testing.
As I understand it, he already looked at the insides for visual faults and found nothing. We need to dig deeper.
Also, sometimes it makes sense to knock out a consultation at a service center. Otherwise, trying to do it yourself can just be a waste of time.

Thank you very much for your answers and advice. We definitely do not have a Service Center. When I wanted to buy this model of the stove, the store brought this stove especially for me. I have all the PANASONIK equipment. And the first problem with x / n.

For a description of the service check, see the service manual.

Panasonic service manual

[natasha222]

natasha222, the life of the stove has not come out. Call Panasonic and explain the situation to them. Refer to the manufacturer's excellent reputation and ask for help. At least try.
but first test by manual and measure all indicators

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, Lena, I would write. This is more formal, otherwise it is not known which "specialist" will answer the call.

I can't open the service What is the black bar

Please tell me who knows. Acquired HB Panaconic SD-ZB2512. I drew attention to the fact that both kneading paddles are not rigidly inserted on the mounting shaft, as written in the instructions ("put the kneading paddle firmly on the shaft"), but have a large backlash. Previously, I had Kenwood, the scapula was inserted tightly. Should this be so or is it a manufacturer's fault? Thank you.

[mesculinum]

mesculinumThis is how it should be - this is Panasonic's patented technology.

The last discussion of the reasons why bread does not work, postponed,

Problem
The reason is the battery in the scales.

Good day everyone! Who can help with the dimensions or drawing of the drive pulley on the Panasonic 2501, I want to order a duralumin lathe for a turner, my family has cracked all over 4 years, glued it several times (there is already no living space), it remains only to roll it into cold welding. Thank you in advance for your help.

[Igor123]

Igor123,
Are you asking about this detail?

After working for 8 years, after a huge load, HP SD-255 broke down, the bucket drive ADE97A107 collapsed



I ordered it, I'm waiting for delivery. By the way, the same plastic knot about which they talk has recently been sold, forgetting to say that the design of the knot has not changed at least since the SD-200, and this is somewhere since the end of the 80s. Again the unit is specially made of carbolite plastic, plays the role of a “foreseen break” unit, should break when overloaded.

Read HERE... Further in the text there is still about this part and its replacement.

Waist, Bread Maker Pulley, SKU: ADF05E165

a pulley for a bread machine,
Code: ADF05E165

Thanks for the number. Detail 42.

Waist, yes, that particular detail. I would like the exact dimensions of all the parameters of the part, alas, I cannot find anywhere (including the internet) ...

I doubt that such specific information will be on the Internet.

But you have a detail, remember drawing, measure yourself and draw, just measure exactly. Ask someone for a thread and measure.
If you yourself broke, then you can look in the city who will take it.
It seems to me that it is better to work in the direction of drawing up your own scheme than to look for a solution to such a non-trivial problem on the Internet now.

If you have it completely crumbled, which cannot be measured, then this is already worse.
You can wait a long time for someone to disassemble the machine and measure it.
It is easier to order one more part at the service center already by number. He will work for another 4 years, and there you can go to the turner
Or on Avito, in the workshops of the city, ask around about already inoperative equipment, so that they can measure it, if you are reluctant to spend.

Or maybe one of the boys of the forum will climb into his own and measure ... if only hope for it

Tell me please! Bread maker Panasonic sd 257, it works for about 15 minutes, but it may work longer and then the display starts blinking, the clinking of the reel and as a result, bread does not work. The stove is new, I didn't really use it. The warranty has passed. It is very likely that something is wrong with the food. can anyone come across such a malfunction?

It is very likely that something is wrong with the food.

Is very similar. If it's just a network wire cut off somewhere or the plug is odd, then the problem can be quickly resolved by replacement. Business for 5 minutes. We need to find out if this is so. To do this, you need to be patient for 15 minutes or longer and just plug the stove into the network. You can set any program, BUT do not press "Start". And watch the display. You can move the power cord after 5 ... 10 minutes. And check the outlet itself. To do this, plug the stove into a different outlet. Good luck!

No, I'm already driving the stove in a disassembled state. I checked everything except the radio components. I tried it in different outlets. Blinking starts, the device is put on the heating element. So the voltage on it disappears and the display also blinks. I looked through the board for a microcrack. Very similar to a power failure in the circuit.