The kneading blade cannot be removed from the bucket axis

Good evening, members of the forum. Please tell a newbie baker. I baked my first bread. I began to wash the bread pan and find that the dough paddle cannot be removed from the axis of the bucket. Bread maker Philips 9045/30. I read on the Internet that there are models in which, after the first landing in the bucket, this blade is no longer removed. Who has such a HP model, is it so, or give advice on how to get it off the axis?

[Marina487]

Marina487, Try pouring some water to soften the leftovers after baking the bread.

I tried everything, both water and oil. How welded. That is, in this model it should not be so? Should the blade be removed from the axis?

Ufff, hurray, pulled it out!

And I have HP Elenberg. The scapula generally lives its own life. then it remains in the bread, then just like you remove the fix from the pin. And it doesn't soak well with water. I'm not worried about this case. Not filming? Yes, and don't bother with you.

[Marina487]

Marina487, The blade must be removed from the axis

Ufff, hurray, pulled it out!

What for?
IMHO, when the scapula has dried to death, it is very convenient - you are not afraid of what will remain in the dough. I crossed my leg when my Panas learned to bake a spatula, because until that moment I managed to give it to a neighbor with a loaf once (and on the forum I met a poor fellow who sent him to the garbage chute along with unsuccessful bread, then looked for a new one through the services) and several times thorough whip with a knife, cutting the loaf.

And I didn’t act out the first time even after soaking. I have been using it for 5 years.

I, if soaking did not help, take the bucket so that one hand inside firmly holds the stirrer blade, and the other hand holds the metal gizmo below, with which the mixer subsequently interferes, with which the engine drives the stirrer inside the bucket. Holding the blade so that it does not move, you need to slightly move it in different directions with a metal contraption, after which the blade can be easily removed. I hope I wrote it clearly ... I always remove the stirrer. I have a Panasonic x / oven.

Now I have come to complete clarity, thank you all for your advice and participation!

And I didn’t act out the first time even after soaking. I have been using it for 5 years.

Yeah, and mine is the same. It doesn't bother me at all. And then there is no need to pick in the bread.

And I didn’t act out the first time even after soaking. I have been using it for 5 years.

Lucky man!

I, too, did not pull out the spatula at one time, I just wiped the bucket and that's it. But over time, the scapula rose, because with a new laying of products and kneading, the remnants of the bread will still soak and swell it up. Or when shaking out the finished bread from the bucket, it moves a little. In the end, the spatula rose so that during kneading it began to grind a puddle underneath, which remained a polished puddle in the already finished bread. Now there is always my pin and a spatula. I just fill it with warm water as it is written in the instructions and periodically tug the spatula upward, as it gets wet - it can be easily removed and then you can even scrape the pin well with a fingernail from the dough. A clean shoulder blade freely falls into its proper place and "works" hard
In addition, the remnants of the dough under the axial base of the blade dry up and at the beginning of the kneading, HP-ke needs to tear off this dried piece from its place. So my son-in-law tore off the Teflon coating on the lower axial part of the blade. Already asked me where to look for another.

This is who is as lucky and who likes what

The bucket will cool down, I remove the scapula like this:
1.fill with warm water
2.I give it to stand for 10-20 minutes
3.try to remove first in the center, then swing by the blade
4.If it was not possible to remove it, I drain the water and again see paragraph 1

When the spatula finally separated from the bucket, I carefully scrape the shaft from the remnants of the dough, rinse the bucket, spatula and dry land.
That's all.

You always need to shoot, otherwise one fine day it will take off and ... and the dough remaining under the shoulder blade is not good (for example, they did not bake it for a long time - everything was hammered with penicillin).

I, if soaking did not help, take the bucket so that one hand inside firmly holds the stirrer blade, and the other hand holds the metal gizmo below, with which the mixer subsequently interferes, with which the engine drives the stirrer inside the bucket. Holding the blade so that it does not move, you need to slightly move it in different directions with a metal contraption, after which the blade can be easily removed. I hope I wrote it clearly ... I always remove the stirrer. I have a Panasonic x / oven.

Thank you so much for your advice!
As soon as she did not try to get it: she knocked, and soaked it, and tried to pry it underneath with a wooden spatula - it's useless! Out of despair I went to the Internet to ask for advice and here is your post.! She took the bowl in her hands, took the blade with one hand, with the other turned this shiny thing that makes the blade move and voila! she's free! Fast, easy, no violence !!! Thank you very much! It seems like a trifle, but I didn't guess something myself))))))