Food processor CLATRONIC KM 3588

So, I have an assistant: Food processor CLATRONIC KM 3588 - dough mixer. As such, a dough mixer, he is my first, in addition to him I have a Bosch ProfiKubixx MCM 5529 combine, he puffed up, both for himself and for that brother, until the bakery appeared, and now there is a new resident of the kitchen who has both strength more will be. Well, let's learn from each other.

Here he is, handsome:


The set includes:
Steel bowl - volume 6.5 l
The bowl holds up to 3-4 kg of dough
Glass jug with a volume of 1.5 liters (blender)
Cast aluminum dough hook.
A stainless steel whisk and a mixing tip (paddle or H-shaped - it is not indicated in the description, but as I understand it, this is an analogue of the K-shaped Kenwood nozzle).


The assembly, judging by the barcode - Germany, the barcode both on the box and on the combine are the same, I met a pseudo-branded technique in which the barcodes on the box, instructions, the device itself and accessories were all completely different, although in the description it was loud declared about the only and unique plant in the whole wide world .. Well, this is the lyrics.

The build quality is quite decent, I really liked the attachments themselves, they are so impressive.

In size, it suddenly turned out to be quite compact. Here's how he settled down in my kitchen:




I had to move the airfryer to the loggia, rearrange the bread maker in its place, and the kneader lives on the windowsill.

Here is a link to its description on the official website.

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Well, I will master it. I would be very grateful if the owners of the same kneader, as well as those who wish to become such, respond and join the discussion.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, congratulations on your purchase

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I will wait for how this boy will behave at work, I really want to do the same: girl_cray: just think everything is necessary?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I will wait for how this boy will behave at work, I really want to do the same: girl_cray: just think everything is necessary?

Thank you!
Today I will upload the recipe, and the description is in progress. How is it necessary ?! Of course you do! With pens, tea is heavy ... I have been kneading both dough and minced meat with pens for more than twenty years, with the advent of Boshik-Kubik I sighed a little, then the bread maker, of course, is a good helper, but it’s too small and I feel sorry for her under heavy dough and minced meat.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, and I love the dough for pies with handles, handles, handles. I get a kick out of it.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, we all became so dependent on technology, there is so much of it in the kitchen. I even sometimes think it's a disease. Good luck with my husband mmm if I buy it means I need to.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, and I love the dough for pies with handles, handles, handles. I get a kick out of it.

You won't believe it! I also love pens, especially yeast, it is alive, squeaks, breathes, talks to you! But the modern rhythm of life requires an incredible amount of time, and this is where our friends come to our aid - combines, bread makers, air ovens, dishwashers, etc.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, and where did you look at the recipes specifically for the kneaders. When I read the topic, I found recipes specifically for kneaders for yeast dough, I did not make any bookmarks on time, I thought I’ll find it .. I bought my dough mixer, I play every day, I cannot find those recipes !!! Yesterday I accidentally found a recipe from Admin, I liked it. And I want different, different ..
The dough after the kneader is so lively, it's so nice to take it with your hands, there is some kind of mystery in this .. The home ones squeal with joy, my friends also try yeast products, go crazy, I give them half, and they still share with everyone and they also chew and are bastard with pleasure .. Those who have not yet made a bread maker, have dreamed of a bread maker, who has one, are thinking about a dough mixer ..And I had no idea before why ordinary girls, not cooks, not confectioners at home would have a dough mixer ..
After successful experiments with sous vid, cubs, dough mixer, the husband said the magic phrase: "take whatever you want!" For shopaholics and deviceaholics, it's like a balm for the soul !! Life has not been lived in vain, devices serve faithfully, tirelessly hands hook..

And most importantly !! Congratulations on your new useful toy !!

[musyanya]

musyanya, I have tried only one so far, I will search and adapt my own.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, and where did you look at the recipes specifically for the kneaders. When I read the topic, I found recipes specifically for kneaders for yeast dough, I did not make any bookmarks on time, I thought I’ll find it .. I bought my dough mixer, I play every day, I cannot find those recipes !!! Yesterday I accidentally found a recipe from Admin, I liked it. And I want different, different ..
The dough after the kneader is so lively, it's so nice to take it with your hands, there is some kind of mystery in this .. The home ones squeal with joy, my friends also try yeast products, go crazy, I give them half, and they still share with everyone and they also chew and are bastard with pleasure .. Those who have not yet stocked a bread maker, have dreamed about a bread maker, who has one, thought about a dough mixer .. And I had no idea before why ordinary girls, not cooks, not home confectioners need a dough mixer ..
After successful experiments with sous vid, cubs, dough mixer, the husband said the magic phrase: "take whatever you want!" For shopaholics and deviceaholics, it's like a balm for the soul !! Life has not been lived in vain, devices serve faithfully, tirelessly hands hook..

And most importantly !! Congratulations on your new useful toy !!

Here's a new recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=424788.0

So, I will continue about my Clathrosh, or rather not about him, but about the manufacturer.
Fifteen years ago, I first came across CLATRONIC. My mother and I were in Moscow and somehow in passing purchased a hairdryer from this company. I must say that I was seduced by the price, I don’t remember exactly how much it cost, but it was mere pennies. The name is not heard, I blurted out something about China, the sales assistant politely corrected me, explaining that this is a German company and even such a crumb as this hairdryer is not assembled in China, but only in Germany. Having listened carefully to it, we didn’t believe it, but the hairdryer was very nice and we bought it. After unpacking and carefully examining it at home, I found no sign of China. We brought it home, at work I then had an identifier program, by the barcode and several other parameters, the program recognized a purely German product. I must say that then we lived outside the city, and we had electricity, how to put it mildly ... magic. My deep fryer, electric kettle and other appliances were idle. If the washing machine worked, then only during the day and with the TVs and computer turned off. How many cool hair dryers and flatbeds, two kettles, a vacuum cleaner ... you can go on for a long time. So, the baby hair dryer had quite a decent power, and it worked perfectly for ten years, dried it perfectly, and didn’t dry it out, but styled my mother’s mane and my fine fluffy and unruly hair. We, even somehow, my dog ​​(they dried the Central Asian Shepherd Dog: lol :). Broke him, just the puppy of this very dog, avenged his mother, so to speak. I just pulled it out of the closet and cut through the wire. But! My brother then repaired the wire, and finally the hair dryer broke down, after falling, he himself fell when moving, and the shelf collapsed on him. Otherwise, I think that he would have served to this day.
Probably, the story of my hair dryer played a role at the decision-making stage about the kneader.
And now, after so many years, I decided to find out more about the CTC Clatronic International GmbH company.
So, in a nutshell, here's what several internet resources gave me:
CTC Clatronic International GmbH ( 🔗) - owner of the CLATRONIC trademark, part of the Clatronic-Groupe (Germany). Founded in 1982 as a medium-sized family-owned company, the company has grown rapidly.The family of Emmanuel Classen, who founded the tm CLATRONIC, independently forms a model range of household appliances, modernizes it and locates production in factories specializing in certain types of household appliances and earning prestige for their quality and experience, and on which appliances of such brands as TEFAL, PHILIPS, KENWOOD are produced , ROWENTA… Today CLATRONIC is one of the leaders who offers equipment at low prices.
CLATRONIC head office is located in Germany near Dusseldorf, Kempen. CLATRONIC equipment is also represented today by branches in Italy, Poland and the Czech Republic. CLATRONIC audio, video and household appliances are distributed mainly in the domestic market in Germany, and are also exported to 40 countries.
Achievements of CLATRONIC - home appliances CLATRONIC has an attractive design, color range and today is represented by a model range of more than 600 items, which include audio equipment, video equipment and household appliances, which are produced by the CLATRONIC brand, and meet the criterion Price - Quality. Therefore, CLATRONIC does not spend money on advertising, but on quality. But audio equipment, video equipment and household appliances CLATRONIC has the quality corresponding to the most famous brands. The quality of CLATRONIC products is equal to both the European CLATRONIC consumer and the consumer from other countries. CLATRONIC household appliances are produced only from high quality materials and components. CLATRONIC audio, video and household appliances also comply with international safety standards. Environmental and hygienic quality control of Clatronic products is carried out in the laboratories of Dr. Wessling-Gruppe "(Altenberge, Germany). Household appliances Clatronic - all new achievements in household appliances - air ovens, steam cleaners, bread makers, steam systems, ionizers, humidifiers and other household appliances of good quality and at very good prices.
From myself, I can say that the hairdryer was quite consistent with everything that was said about the technique of this brand. I really hope that the kneader will not have any complaints.

Yesterday I baked a Voronezh cake with the help of my assistant, according to GOST. I could not take a picture of the process, my tablet was discharged and then became capricious, did not want to charge. She did not give her child, in general, without a photo.
So, according to the recipe, it was necessary to whip the butter, but here Klatrosh let me down a little, he is still designed for a large number of products. The oil was crushed along the walls. Then, remembering how Tanyulya baked a sponge cake in Stebik, and threw all the ingredients into Kenwood, I did the same - I threw everything into Klatrosh, but in stages. With the addition of eggs, things went more fun, but nevertheless, the whisk did not completely take the egg-oil mixture from the walls, and I added cottage cheese, never ground and not whipped with a blender, as it is, and threw it. The whisk did not even think to be indignant in connection with the compaction of the kneaded. Before adding flour, I changed the whisk to a spatula, added flour, mixed a little, decided it was thick, added another egg and a little butter, mixed for a couple of seconds (Klatrosh was mixing). And put it in the Nordic Rose. It was at night, Klatrosh was working, humming merrily, but the neighbor did not knock on the wall ... Although usually, when I, for example, at half past one, with the iron leg of a blender, stir the grated viburnum with sugar, in an iron saucepan on a stone countertop, it happens somewhat dissatisfied
Time, the process of preparing the dough, took no more than 15 minutes .. Whisk, even did not blink an eye, kneading the dough. In general, I liked the Voronezh cupcake, and Klatrosh at work too. Yes, it is not designed for small portions. But it doesn't require dancing with tambourines.
And one more lyrical digression. A few minutes ago my husband flies into the room, and with burning eyes yells "Have you seen the new Kenwood Chef ?!" Before the appearance of Klatroshi, I would have promised him a divorce, if he did not buy it. But! Klatrosh saved the family. Yes, he is not an induction Chef (may Chef forgive me), but he also costs much less!

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, the neighbor is already used to seeing) Yes, and the sound of a working clathronic, after the blender is pulled, for her, probably a lullaby)

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, the neighbor is already used to seeing) Yes, and the sound of a working clathronic, after the blender is pulled, for her, probably a lullaby)

The other day my mother and my child are leaving the apartment, and a Neighbor (not no no, she is a good aunt) meets them and exclaims disapprovingly "Are you baking something again ?!" , with a fright, my mother decided to deny everything, just in case. But a neighbor pinned her to the wall with iron evidence "Well, it smells delicious!" ... I had to confess ... And only sweet bread was baked in a bread machine.

They used to give our neighbors bread, now we don't spoil much, otherwise it will become a habit
Klatronic dough mixer (3400 km) also pleases
Copes with its functions to the fullest)

They used to give our neighbors bread, now we don't spoil much, otherwise it will become a habit
Klatronic dough mixer (3400 km) also pleases
Copes with its functions to the fullest)

Do you have a rod on the rim, also plastic?

yeah) it looks like this for the whole line
yes, I rarely use a whisk, I whip liquid with a hand mixer, it's more convenient for me

Small volume - unambiguously manual.

The other day I baked Calla Nostalgie Cookies https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=425868.0

The dough is uncomplicated, but confusing. Beat the eggs first, then add sugar and beat until the sugar dissolves, then flour and stir until smooth.
But, I have Klatrosh! I threw everything into the bowl, put on the whisk nozzle, and before I had time to look back, such a beauty was ready!



In time, it's difficult to say, since I filmed a video of how Klatrosh works, and played with modes and speeds, but very quickly, about 5 minutes, given that I have some kind of insoluble sugar ...
I wanted to show a video so that you can appreciate the sound of a working kneader, I can't
But, literally today, I watched Tanyulino's video about waffles with condensed milk, Kesha makes a little quieter noise, about the same, as I heard.
By the way, at the moment of laying out the cookies on the platter, it dawned on me that you can try whipping in the Klatroshin blender too! Next time I'll try!

There is silence in the subject, but I'm like that student "about cucumbers" ...

The other day I was making duck ham. And the minced meat was kneaded with the help of Klatroshi.


Boys and girls, it’s mom, tinkling sho for the song! I won't talk about the fact that it is inhumane to torture that minced meat with pens for twenty minutes in relation to the minced meat, and to my own moral and physical condition, and also not useful for family happiness. But the bread maker, one of my favorite assistants, does not manage at all like Klatrosh, well, not at all! Firstly, when I add ice, the heart is not in place, that it scratches the coating on the HP bucket and the mixer, and secondly, no matter how you add ice, the bucket and minced meat heat up.

And with Klatrosh, you can make a feint with your ears, put the bowl in the refrigerator for a while, and then knead it in it and not be afraid that the ice will scratch the bowl, I added whole cubes, they ground them perfectly and broke them, and the bowl was so cold, so lovely, how cold ... And I interfered for five minutes, the threads just turned out gorgeous! For the sake of order, I mixed it for ten minutes, but they assure that five is enough!


And here it is a ham, we took a quick photo, so the photo is not artistic, it is gray near the crust, I also baked it later.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I have Bomann, in appearance exactly the same as yours. I will not adapt to knead yeast dough. I can't get such an airy dough as after HP. If it's not difficult for you, describe the mixing algorithm. And at what speed did you knead the minced meat?

[Ninelle]

Ninelleand how's the duck ham? I can't imagine sausage from duck))

[Ninelle]

Ninelleand how's the duck ham? I can't imagine sausage from duck))

Mash, you're scaring me, buy some raw smoked duck sausage for testing in Ashan ...
And the ham turned out to be very tasty, judging by the way it was devoured ...

I don't want to buy in the store, I'm afraid))
That's why I'm asking you)

And I congratulated you on Klatrosha, I don’t remember

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I have Bomann, in appearance exactly the same as yours. I will not adapt to knead yeast dough. I can't get such an airy dough as after HP. If it's not difficult for you, describe the mixing algorithm. And at what speed did you knead the minced meat?

Olga, you are not satisfied with the consistency of the dough? Or the crumb of the bread itself? Bread baked in the oven, a priori, is denser than baked in a bread machine. The algorithm is usual, flour, the rest of the ingredients in it. But such a method gives a good result: we sift the flour into a bowl, carefully make a hole in it with the necessary ingredients, carefully lower the hook and start kneading the dough at the lowest speed. We do not hammer with flour, then it is better to mix it with your hands. And we control the bun, it is possible that before he takes all the flour, it will be necessary to remove it from the bowl. To prove, for me personally, it is better either in ceramics, glass, porcelain, or in a wooden bowl, in a proofing basket, but not in metal (unless it is possible in an enamel bowl) and not in plastic.

I don't want to buy in the store, I'm afraid))
That's why I'm asking you)

And I congratulated you on Klatrosha, I don’t remember

I do not remember! Thank you!

I somehow took to work, it was urgently needed, by the way, quite decent.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I would like to know how many minutes and at what speed to knead. I knead the dough in HP, and bake in the oven... Now I'm trying to knead in a combine. With the same recipes, completely different breads are obtained. Mixed in HP - a delicate fluffy crumb, from a combine - an almost flat cake with a rough crumb. When mixing, I focus on the appearance of the bun and how it behaves in the bowl. I tried to change the mixing time and speed, the result. I read the advice of Admin, I seem to be doing everything right, but I'm not happy with the result. In principle, I bought it for kneading minced meat for sausage. But, of course, I want to use it to the fullest.

[olaola1]

olaola1, in minutes, in my opinion, it is impossible to calculate, since the flour is different and the state of the products, etc. But in any case, you need to start at a low speed, no more than a C, three minutes, then we look at what has formed, adjust the liquid if necessary or continue to knead. Speed, in my opinion, is needed when the dough is "knocked out" or "beaten off". And beaten off for bread, it must be done. Have you tried Romina's recipes or some other proven ones with HP, specifically for mixing into a combine?
I, as if in a combine, did not knead until I felt the dough with my hand, I did not understand what was mixed there. Therefore, for a very long time I did not buy HP, did not believe in it.

[olaola1]

olaola1, you know, what else, my great-grandmothers, always the dishes in which the dough was kneaded, greased with butter, and so far nobody, including me, has been able to repeat it ..
Also, as an option, you can try every minute to repeat the batch as in HP, in a combine. I will try in the near future to photograph the process by the minute, and lay out the recipe. Only when, I don't know

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, thanks for the answer. I tried to imitate the batch in HP, it still didn't work. Some of the girls on the forum wrote that the dough in the "Panasonic" plant is better than the dough after the kneading, and this is probably true. But I'm not upset, I bought a dough mixer for kneading minced meat.

[olaola1]

olaola1, you intrigued me ... According to no recipe, you baked and kneaded here and there? I want to try.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, The recipe is simple, for me it is basic: 500 gr. flour, 320 ml. water temperature 50-52 gr., 1 tbsp. spoon of sugar, 1.5 tsp of salt, 0.5 tsp of yeast, 1 tbsp. spoon of lard. Now I bake from 2 grade flour. Yeast - "Fermipan", salt - fine sea salt. I knead the dough with all the ingredients, except the lard, literally just so that everything gathers in a lump, in HP - 3 minutes, I leave it for 6-8 hours (the time may be different, I usually knead before bedtime), then I add the lard and turn on the "dough mode" ". When the mode ends, I form a round or oval loaf, put it seam down on the baking film. Proofing for 1 hour + 15 minutes, for heating the oven to 230 gr.I bake with steam (first 15 minutes) on a preheated baking sheet: 15 minutes - 230 gr. top-bottom, 15 minutes - 180 g. convection, 30 min - 160 gr. convection. Before planting in the oven, sprinkle the dough with water. You can replace some of the wheat flour with rye flour, whole grain, bran, etc., add malt, there can be many variations. Previously baked from flour / grade and 1 grade. Always a good result. But with the kneader - it didn't work ...

[olaola1]

olaola1, Olga, thank you, I do not promise that immediately, but I will try according to your recipe .. If you will allow me, one thing, but .. Is the water temperature too high? In HP, I can generally pour a cold one if it is not quick bread, but when it is seen by hand or in a combine, it is a little warmer than room. Although, if you have baked many times ... I'll try, I'll show you the result.

I read from Luda (Mariana-aga) that dry yeast is activated at 52 gr. water. Since then, I always take hot liquid, in any dough where you need to make a dough.

Here's a bread turned out, kneaded the dough with a kneader. Hard cake. Tomorrow I will bake bread from HP. I will expose a photo for comparison.

This is what the bread is today. Knead in HP.

And this is for comparison. Below is today's bread. It can be seen that even the color of the crumb is different. So I want to achieve the same result, both with the kneader and with the HP.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, thank you for this thread. I read everything carefully and found a lot of new things for myself. Write more, I will be your reader and follower. This is my first time with a dough mixer, I still don't know much.
It's never too late to learn, is it?

[olaola1]

olaola1, and in a dough mixer how long do you knead this dough? And at what speed?

Galya, I've already tried it several times - and 5 minutes, and 10, and 15. In your topic, I described today's result.

Ol, thanks, I already read there.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, thank you for this thread. I read everything carefully and found a lot of new things for myself. Write more, I will be your reader and follower. This is my first time with a dough mixer, I still don't know much.
It's never too late to learn, is it?

So for the first time with me, too, I used to either knead with handles, or I tortured BoschKubik. Now I master it by scientific poking. But the machine is cool, one thing, but ... it is white
But Bosch is also white with me, I think to make friends

Today it was necessary to attach Agusha a fermented milk mixture and all sorts of milk and fermented milk residues from the refrigerator. And Klatrosha and I baked pancakes, although my husband tried to infiltrate our company, he said that he got me vanillin from the top shelf, and therefore he had the right to assume that he also took part in the cooking process ... But Klatrosh and I cooked ! And that's it!
So, I poured every agush-milk-sour milk into the bowl of the kneader, knocked out the eggs, added sugar and salt, flour:

I set the whisk and turned on the speed at the first speed for two minutes, then I added olive oil, and a little more flour, again at the first speed for two minutes, the dough seemed thin to me, I also added flour and olive oil and turned on the same mode again, now the dough it was thick, I diluted it with whey, poured out vanilla sugar, the same mode, at the very end I poured out baking powder, mixed at second speed for a minute and that's it, the dough was ready:

In total, the dough was kneaded for about 7-8 minutes, because I did not set the timer for two minutes, but looked at the clock, and 11 minutes passed from the beginning of the kneading to readiness, and during this time I sifted the flour twice, then took out the whey, " I sent "my husband to the top shelf for vanilla, then for baking powder .. In general, the dough is kneaded both quickly and well. I tightened the whisk a little, visually I did not understand whether it squeezed or how, once I removed the flour from the walls, I did not even understand whether it was necessary or not, because at the end, there was no excess on the walls, you can see it in the photo.
Well, here is the result of our work with Klatrosh:

In connection with the acquisition of Princess, I am now chasing her. And the other day we baked with her and with Klatrosh Tsvetaevsky apple pie according to Kubanochka's recipe.
Klatrosh helped me to knead the dough.

Well, I can’t help but mess up, and for some reason I decided to knead with a spatula Klatroche didn’t like it and he worked hard enough, but when I changed the attachment to the hook, things went more fun. Kneading at the second speed for three minutes, for two minutes included a five. The harvester kneaded the dough well, but probably over twenty-five years of manual kneading, I got used to the fact that it is better to either chop such dough with a knife or use knives in a food processor. I repeat once again, I coped well with the Klatrosh dough, this is probably my prejudice .. Dough: 300 g butter, slightly softened, 4 tbsp. tablespoons of sugar, a pinch of salt, 2 tsp. baking powder, 100 g sour cream with cream, 600 g flour.
Here's what we got:

It seems that it's time for me to acquire the Princess. Since I haven't baked such a cake yet and I have nothing to compare with, I will knead the dough right away with a hook and I think that everything will be fine.

It seems that it's time for me to acquire the Princess.

Gal is high time. When I told you about her

Galyun, even I have already bought, let's pull up. She is red, fits under Shtebik's lid)

It is high time

Even I already bought it, let's pull up. She is red, fits under Shtebik's lid

Yes, I have already caught fire in one place. Now there is no time to do this. Here I will hand over a shift for my grandson, then I will think about this question.

Yesterday they brought me blueberries, a little - 2 three-liter cans. But nevertheless, she fiddled. She ground the berries using a BoschKubik combine (with a berry attachment, the one with the propeller), and mixed with sugar with the help of Klatroshi. I made the first bookmark in Klatrosh, what is called "to the eyeballs" - 3 liters of grated blueberries and 3 kg of sugar, so I decided to use a hook for mixing to fit. My God, how fast and cool it turned out with two assistants! And what is characteristic! A neighbor on the wall - she did not knock, as during last year's preparation of either viburnum, or cranberries ... But my boys worked in chorus.
Unfortunately, there are no photographs, since the child agreed to sit quietly, "only with her mother's drunk ..."
If they bring more, I will try to take a step-by-step photo.
How glad I am that I have such assistants, as I remember before, through a meat grinder, then through a drushlag, then through a sieve, then hang out over a spoon, stirring sugar ...

P.S. The pens were sweaty, perfectly washed in the process of washing the dishes and wiping the sink from blueberry stains with soda and citric acid. Not in the subject of a kneader, I understand, but relevant to blueberries. The bowl was washed with hands.

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, that's lovely! I haven't thought of mixing the berry puree in the kneader yet!

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, that's lovely! I haven't thought of mixing the berry puree in the kneader yet!

Galyus, I'm out of my laziness, I’ll come up with something else, but there’s no time to beautifully design my ideas

out of my laziness, I’ll think of something else

Laziness is the engine of progress!