Programmable Sana Smart Bread

I found this topic, that I did not find anything suitable there, and the list is clearly not exhaustive, I, in principle, agree to the semi-automatic mode if significant savings come out, and you mean heating during proofing or not, so I hoped for your help, I especially want the oven is hoppy, it is very attracted by such a slightly wet crumb, maybe there is still some kind of output, otherwise there is no way to pay that kind of money for hp

Can you jump for sourdough bread? 12 hours for distance 1 is enough or not? I am looking for more different options ..

I repeat that for baking in semi-automatic mode, you can take any hp. TE Kneaded-turned off, kneaded-turned off, then turned on the baking. 12 hours for fermentation is a lot. For such a time, they put in the refrigerator to wander.

Yes, I realized that only a semiautomatic device, I saw that you had 5 and 5 hours of fermentation hop fermentation, and when I changed programs 12, 2 and 2, what to do in this case, I do the first 5 hours, then I turn off and put the program back on. 5 hours and I remove the 2nd and 3rd rises ... so, in principle, it will do, I already realized that control of the rise of the leavening grain by a person is inevitable))))

In general, no programs are needed for semi-automatic baking. You just turn on the kneading, then turn off the stove, observe fermentation, then turn on the kneading for 2 minutes (for kneading), turn off the stove again, observe the proofing, then turn on the baking.

you had 5 and 5 hours,

Remind in which bread? I do not remember, I usually do 1 hour (fermentation) + 3-4 hours (proofing).

And in the turned off stove will part? This is what I wrote about hop with apples.

This is what I wrote about hop with apples.

There is 1 hour + 5 hours, but, theoretically, the proofing should be shorter.

And in the turned off stove will part?

Why not? just what is the advantage of this stove? The fact that the proofer has heating and this heating can be adjusted, that is, the process will be more comfortable for the dough and faster in terms of time.

Mistletoe, hello, I wanted to know if you still use this HP, what can you say about the fact of annual use?

[Mira-2014]

Mira-2014, and what, already a year has passed ?? Now I do not use it, because I can’t start all the leaven, and I have not adapted to automatic baking, although I bought a Teflon bucket.

And what was the gag? I don't consider a teflon bucket at all, I have long wanted to buy this stove in order to bake ordinary bread (yeast or azatan), but I'm afraid not to master the process :(

The gag is that in an ordinary stove (I have Bork) - I tracked the bun for 3 minutes, turned it off, pressed the delay and sleep. Ready bread in the morning. Here, firstly, you need to be present during the kneading, because the dough sticks to the walls and rises up. it is necessary to lower it with a spatula. And second, I didn’t choose the program so that I was completely satisfied with the result. But here the point is not in the stove, but in the fact that I have no time to deal with this issue tightly. It is necessary to sit down, write down one option - bake, evaluate the result, then the second option, etc.

Don't be afraid you won't master it. There are no difficulties, you just need to choose the program for yourself once.

And I keep licking my lips ... so far I bought myself tall aluminum molds and I pull out bread from them according to your method - under a towel for 15 minutes, then I circle it and falls out like a cute, but wet ...

but wet ...

Yes, there is such a problem. But it will stand. dries up.)

[Omela]

Omela, hi read about the ordeal with the batch in Sana, did not understand.Is it with any bowl and stainless steel and Teflon the dough sticks when kneading? And you have to push it down with a spatula? It turns out that it takes 2 hours to graze the dough?
And thanks for the idea of ​​preliminary kneading to the kolobok - I tried it today - at 12 I kneaded the kolobok, turned it off. I switched on the main program in Panas for 4 hours - there was an hour for standing (I was worried that the yeast that had already got wet would behave incorrectly later), then the usual kneading, and baking. By morning there was good bread without flour in the corners, etc.
I wanted to ask - what program do you turn on after kneading? Bakery products? (I have it not programmed in time. It was not possible to postpone for 4 hours just baking)
And the stainless steel scapula in Sana - does the dough stick to them? And no coated paddles?

[3do4ki]

3do4ki, I put wet bread in a cold oven for 5-7 minutes on convection 180 degrees. Has time to dry and does not burn.

[Omela]

Omela,
dries up, yes. But you can't see it all the way, because it's getting moldy in the bread bin ...

Tillotama,
Thank you!

[Tillotama]

Tillotama, here I showed bread on the machine: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=412552.0... I only used a Teflon bucket once, the paddles are also Teflon.

I wanted to ask - what program do you turn on after kneading?

What are you asking about now? about this stove? Or about deferred bread? If about the stove, then I indicate how I set up the program. And if about the delayed start, then I turn on the main program. In Bork, she is about 3 hours.

But you can't see it all the way

Yes, it does not look very nice purely visually. You can partially freeze the bread and take it out as needed. Recommend. True, they freeze them with whole bread, but I cut them. I know that girls generally cut in portions and freeze several pieces. Get it straight for meals.

[Omela]

Omela, I somehow threw half a loaf into the freezer in front of the plane, it thawed quickly in the refrigerator and then it was quite decent. So yes, option. But it's not difficult for me to bake fresh.

[Omela]

Omela, yes, I meant your message about the bun in Bork. You knead, and then you leave for baking. I just thought that maybe you just put off baking and that's it - without the program.
Thanks again for the idea, I liked it. Because angles in flour with a delayed start pissed me off. And then it turned out to be smooth, as if ordered. So I did everything right.
Why do you hate Teflon? For health reasons?

[Mira-2014]

I just thought that maybe you just put off baking and that's it - without the program.

No, I'm postponing the main program.

Why do you hate Teflon? For health reasons?

I have no dislike. it Mira-2014 wrote

I don't even consider the Teflon bucket,

[Omela]

I have no dislike. This Mira-2014 wrote

Omela, well, you just wrote that you used Teflon only once - I made such a conclusion.

No, it's just that there is no time to get busy. And the leaven must be made.

I don't have enough for leaven yet. I bake yeast.
Did you appreciate the presence of glasses in Sana?
I just got into the habit of adding a mixture for soup with onions to bread We liked it very much

Did you appreciate the presence of glasses in Sana?

Glasses are needed only for the fermentation process. baking with them is bad, the crust does not brown. And if there is a lot of dough, then it can be printed.

And any additives go to bread, for sure. I also add dry fried onions.)

Oh wow. It seems like these glasses were positioned for better baking, such as so that the heat does not go away. or what am I confusing. In Panas, it seems to always rise well without glasses. Now I think if the film is closed what will happen))
I also added dry fried onions. But you have to buy it Or fry And then some kind of stupid mixture was at hand, I didn't like it in the soup, but went to bread with a bang

It seems like these glasses were positioned for better baking, such as so that the heat does not go away.or what am I confusing.

Well, even purely theoretically, the glasses are at the level of the bucket, which means that initially the bread should be lower. And the lower, the less heat. I baked my first bread with glasses. You can see the result in the topic.

I also added dry fried onions. But you have to buy it

Yes, I bought in Indian spices. Just today I made buns with him. And so yes, any vegetable seasoning can be used.

You can see the result in the topic.

Well, not so scary in the photo anyway.
Did you end up buying a bowl for 2 rolls?

No, I didn't buy a cup. And as life has shown, I did the right thing.)

When I had a small bread maker for 350 grams of bread, it irritated me that there was a lot of crust. Probably the same story here. Or does different bread need different programs?

And different programs, especially since it was supposed to bake white and black bread ... and there is more time for loading, in general, it is not convenient. (

Have you tried the mode just baking in this oven and in Bork? In all my stoves I have it somehow unsuccessful. It doesn't taste good to me, or if it's a cake that is somehow low and dense it always turns out. Maybe the recipes are unsuccessful, but no matter how much I tried, I was unhappy. Did you make jam?

I tried to bake Easter cake according to a proven recipe, only I doubled the portion ... I didn't like it. because there was a lot of dough and it was not baked. because the program was not picked correctly. I didn't experiment anymore. In general, I do not like baked goods not from HP, not from MV. I didn't cook jam and didn't fry chicken.

Judging by the photos that people put out all sorts of cupcakes from HP, I will not like anything. In the oven, they are so soulful. And then there are some nondescript bricks. The bread is still different, although it is also good in the oven.
With jam in vain These are delicious! Cherry with lingonberry - song
And I somehow fried potatoes in a bread maker - the experiment was a stewed mess turned out

Yes, I don't like HP cupcakes either. Even if you do it according to the same recipe in HP and in the oven. No, well, for the sake of an experiment, you can also fry a chicken, the instructions are, by the way.

In mine there is no 180 degrees, probably not enough) so we are waiting for the heat

Yeah .. Schaub AF and Shteba died laughing.

AF dearly love, by the way. The last one was frozen meatballs. Pts juicy turned out. And I don't have Shteba, I'm still waiting for them to turn off the heating after cooking and smooth manual mode Non-standard use of technology sometimes gives magical results If this technique does not break, of course))) We also whipped milk and jam in the cappuccino maker. Very frothy fruit cocktail came out

We also whipped milk and jam in a cappuccino maker.

Do you have a large volume ?? We must try too.

500 ml Severin, right now I will send the link to the PM

[Tillotama]

Tillotama, Omela, excuse me for getting in, but what are AF and Shteba?)

[Artlen]

Artlen, Elena:
Air fryer
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD2 / DD2 XL
Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 ECO

Mistletochka, where did you get this hp? I want programmable

[Natalia]

Natalia, I bought a boo from our forum, the new one has a very biting price.
Shl. I've already thought about selling it several times, but it's a pity, I still hope that someday I will have time to study it closely and set up automatic programs.

Ksyusha, I need Chuchi Zarushi to adjust the programs, she also doesn't bake in it, but only raises it, and I want sourdough bread, but damn it, I can't figure out how to put the sourdough. I'll buy another Panas)))

Ggg .. I also thought about Panasonic.)) But what is not clear with the leaven? I just don't have time for it.

did you end up buying a bowl for 2 rolls?

No, I didn't buy a cup. And as life has shown, I did the right thing.)

Omela, if it's not a secret, why don't you need a bowl for 2 rolls?
curious

[Ilya]

Ilya, because. if you bake different types of bread, then different programs are needed.It's easier for me to bake one big, cut and freeze if necessary.)

We have lyuboffffff !!!!
Galya, potato bread. Flour 1c, CZ, wheat germ, talkan. I don’t make out recipes. more not for anyone.

Figase myself .. So I'll decide to take this, and on you, there are no recipes ..

[Omela]

Omela,

Hello! Please, help, I got a Sana stove and I just can't figure out how, how, HOW to install the program ... Teach, step by step, just some kind of secret code .. and I didn't find anything in the instructions and it's not there ... If possible, I will be grateful.