Sanya
The Livstar bread maker was brought for repair with a defect that does not bake bread. I am a complete oak in this business, I have never come across baking and have no idea about this whole procedure. Do you need special flour, what yeast is needed, does the release date of the ingredients affect, in short, does it reflect on the quality of baking ??? I made baked goods twice, the bread turns out to be not baked at all and, in my opinion, has not risen to the desired level ... Teng heats perfectly - proven, is it really about the products ???
Mom Tanya
Sanya, and what prevents you from replacing products? Have you checked the freshness of the yeast? Why, after 2 times in the repair?
Sanya
They brought us in for repair, so I'm racking my brains on what to look for?
Antonovka
Sanya,
There was something similar here with HP Panasonic, but you have to look for it. You don't need special flour, well, yeast, of course, can play podlyanyu. I once argued with the girl at work - she believed that her HP was broken, and the yeast with a normal release date, but the bread comes out fig. In the end, she still bought new yeast and now everything works out

Maybe you will find something here, I'm not an expert, unfortunately, or joy Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns
Sanya
thanks for answers. And if you figure out a double dose of yeast, the bread will rise and bake ...? and I can't upload pictures here ...
Antonovka
Sanya,
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And if you figure out a double dose of yeast, the bread will rise and bake ...?
Well, it will be the wrong bread (
Trendy
Sanya, take as a basis the recipe for simple white bread, where flour, water, salt, yeast are included, and try on the main bread machine mode. In a nutshell, all the same, you can't explain all the subtleties. My husband's bread turned out the first time, and even better than mine. Although he also does not bake.
Antonovka
This bread from my husband in my absence always turns out Very soft white bread (bread maker)
Sanya
in this oven, all the recipes indicate powdered milk and an ameliorator (this is probably a baking powder?), I did not add one or the other, did this affect?
vernisag
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The Livstar bread maker was brought for repair with a defect does not bake bread
In general, my first bread did not work in the oven, it was also raw, not baked. I wanted to return the stove to the store, I thought it was defective ...
But I looked at several sites about bread and ovens and realized that it is difficult to cook a normal bread without scales, or you need to at least understand what a bun should be during kneading. And I was complete zero. I bought a scale, found good bread recipes and everything fell into place. Even in the most simple oven, the cheapest one, you can bake great bread. You just need a scale, fresh yeast, and a good bread recipe.
An4utka
The quantity and quality of ingredients affects (moreover, different flours may require different amounts of liquid, you often have to experiment), the time and temperature of proofing and baking. If you cited the recipe and the program (temperature, time) by which you cooked, described in more detail what happens, perhaps one of the Khlebopechkin gurus could suggest what the reason is. For example, the crust is burnt or baked normally; is it not baked inside at all, or does the crumb have at least some porosity? Better yet, a photo)
An4utka
Too much yeast can also affect this, so you don't need to figure it out)) And note which yeast is indicated in the recipe - dry or pressed, you need a different amount.
Teng can and warms, but the temperature is not kept? Although the bread is quite capricious, without experience it is difficult to get a good result from the first or second time.
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in this oven, all the recipes indicate powdered milk and an ameliorator (this is probably a baking powder?), I did not add one or the other, did this affect?

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vernisag
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in this oven, all the recipes indicate powdered milk and an ameliorator (this is probably a baking powder?), I did not add one or the other, did this affect?
No need to take recipes from the book to the stove
Sanya
An4utka, I gavAryu, I can't insert pictures ...)
Sanya
vernisag, what should be a bun?
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An4utka, I gavAryu, I can't insert pictures ...)

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vernisag, what should be a bun?

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vernisag, what should be a bun?
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The gingerbread man should be a bun) The dough is collected in a ball, and not smeared on the walls or remains shapeless.
Sanya
An4utka, yes, it was going into balls, there are two blades in this oven. Perhaps the problem is in yeast, I will try the recipes from your links. Then I will unsubscribe. Thank you all for your participation
Sanya
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KAROCHI, I understand it is necessary to score on the recipes from the instructions. I will knead at your request - Very soft white bread
Sanya
tell me the order of loading products. Do we fill the water first? salt sugar to pour in one place or scatter on the bottom?
vernisag
Sugar is always with yeast on top of flour, salt, butter, liquid, down under flour. The yeast should not come into contact with salt and oil. If dry yeast. If fresh, pressed, then they need to be stirred with water and sugar, flour, salt, oil on top.

Loya
Usually water first, dry ingredients on top. Dry yeast - into flour and mix a little. But from experience I will say that the order of the bookmark is not important, everything will mix up and so well. From the photo I see that the flour remained on the walls a little, it would be necessary to help the "bun" in the kneading process with a silicone spatula.
Loya
vernisag,
Sanya
vernisag, understood
vedmacck
In Panasonic, this is the order: yeast on the bottom-flour-dry additives-liquid. What is written in the instructions for this stove?
vernisag
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KAROCHI, I understand it is necessary to score on the recipes from the instructions. I will knead at your request - Very soft white bread
There, by the way, in my opinion, there is too much water. And in general, some kind of recipe is strange, there is a lot of water, a lot of salt and sugar, and a lot of yeast ... Watch out for the bun, so that you don't smear it on the bottom, if anything, add a little flour.
Svetta
Sanya, be sure to consider the weight of the food in the cup or glass. Be aware that in an ordinary faceted glass, not tamped flour has a weight of 130-140 g, and not 200 g, as many think. If a special glass is given to the stove, and it should be, then on the one hand it has a milliliter scale (for all liquids) and on the other side it has a scale in cups - it says CUP, so measure dry ingredients on this scale, including and flour.There should also be a measuring spoon for measuring yeast, salt, sugar, etc. in spoons.
larissa
My opinion is change yeast! The day before yesterday I just threw away the same pack, and I bought two small packs of this company and one large one in the store, all with a very good shelf life. Moreover, the release date for both small packs and large ones was the same, and so from the small packs the bread was excellent and rose and baked until golden brown, either in a bread machine or in the oven. But from a large pack, when I started using yeast, I ruined several loaves of bread, it turned out just as you have in the photo. Now I bought fresh Lvivs, the bread is excellent!
Sanya
put a batch, a lot of dough remains at the bottom, under the blades. I threw in products strictly according to the weights of this recipe Very soft white bread
vernisag
Does it smear on the bottom? Add flour, little by little.
Sanya
vernisag, There is a complete hat instruction.
Sanya
vernisag, there is cheF)
Sanya
svetta, this is PANYATNA, the current was brought without anyone, no spoons or forks ...
Sanya
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vernisag
Uuuuuuu, very liquid !!! You need a lot of flour !!!
Sanya
fucking, there was a show-off, poured out everything that was
Sanya
because of this it may not be baked ???
vernisag
If you don't add flour, bread won't work.
vernisag
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because of this it may not be baked ???
Or the roof will collapse badly or it will be the same as last time ...
Sanya
vernisag, got it
Sanya
ran away took flour
Sanya
Can you leave the dough until tomorrow? and continue
vedmacck
Sanya, I understand your indignation at the incomprehensible (for you) garbage, but could you restrain yourself in expressions? Well, as a last resort, express negativity with emoticons? After all, they will be banned or the topic will be closed!
vedmacck
Sanya, yeast, they are alive. There are recipes on the old dough, but not this one.

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